INKOVEMA Podcast „Well through time“
#195 – The Life Script.
A concept of transactional analysis
Helpful for the professionalisation and self-awareness of mediators and counsellors.
In conversation with Natalia Berrio Andrade
Natalia Berrio Andrade, is a teaching trainer and teaching supervisor for transactional analysis (PTSTA-C) and Aikido master (5th Dan Aikikai Tokyo) and founder of the institute. She is a lecturer at the Deggendorf University of Applied Sciences and runs the TA-Campus in Hamburg.
Well through time.
The podcast about mediation, conflict coaching and organisational consulting.
Contents
Chapter
0:05 – Welcome to the podcast Gut durch die Zeit
6:03 – Self-awareness and life script in mediation
10:15 – The importance of unconscious patterns
17:25 – Influence of childhood experiences on conflicts
21:43 – Reflection on own conflict experiences
30:56 – Personality development during counselling
35:08 – Conclusion on script work for mediators
„I don't have to put up with everything “
Summary
In this episode, we look at the Topic self-awareness which plays an essential role for counsellors, conflict managers and mediators. I talk to my colleague Natalia Berrio-Andrade about the challenges that can arise when mediators act in conversations that are familiar to them and that once involved very stressful experiences. These imprints, which transactional analysts conceptualise as possible life script content, can cloud today's counselling work. Self-awareness is therefore crucial in order to prevent one's own unconscious patterns and negative experiences from impairing professionalism in the counselling process.
We discuss the concept of the life script, a central model of transactional analysis, that can help us to recognise our unconscious decisions and behavioural patterns. We shed light on how early childhood experiences and the way we dealt with conflict back then shape our behaviour and attitude to conflict today. These unconscious patterns, if not reflected upon, can ultimately have a negative impact on the quality of our counselling.
Natalia talks about her own experiences, for example at a seminar she recently held with horses and Aikido, and how this hands-on work has helped her Understanding your own life plan has deepened. The idea that every decision we make is directly linked to our early experiences is seen as a force that can be both a hindrance and a help. The exchange promotes a better understanding of the importance of knowing one's own conflict culture and relationship patterns, especially in counselling settings.
The importance of self-reflection is emphasised in our conversation. We discuss how dealing with personal experiences of conflict is not only crucial for one's own growth, but also for the quality of the interventions that mediators carry out in their work. When mediators are aware of their own response patterns, they can more effectively support and encourage their clients in conflict situations.
Finally, we show that the Working with the life script is a valuable method for breaking through one's own unconscious patterns. By consciously reflecting on one's own past and applying it to current counselling situations, it is possible to gain a clearer picture of one's own role and ultimately improve the quality of counselling work. Natalia's expertise and the methodological approaches she describes open up new perspectives for all those involved in conflict and mediation work.
Transcription of the conversation
[0:00]So where activate I possibly the Pattern, where them even not Helpful
[0:05]
Welcome to the podcast Gut durch die Zeit
[0:03]are, neither for me still for my Client system. Cordially welcome to the Podcast Good through the Time, the Podcast round at Mediation, Conflict coaching and Organisational consulting. A Podcast from INKOVEMA. I am Sascha Weigel and welcome you to one new Consequence. And in the today Consequence goes it at Self-awareness. So Self-awareness, the for Consultant, for Conflict counsellor, for Conflict manager and Mediators especially as one significant Function have, also when we us approach, what the in the Individuals means or sensibly with itself brings. But we become so today not so direct about Conflicts speak, but about the The challenge from Mediators and Consultants, the in dialogue processes help should, the them sometimes itself known occur and perhaps even not so good Experience so that made have and now in difficult Conversations Accompanying work should.
[1:04]Without that their own Experience, problematic Experience, negative Effects on the Conversation process have should. So none Projections, none Overloads. The is difficult Matter and also in the Education a Factor, the skilfully mediates become wants. And because the not so simple is and because it also always again Fun makes, with mine today Colleague to speak, the here already in the Podcast was, have I them me again invited. Cordially welcome, Natalia Berrio-Andrade. Hello Natalia.
[1:38]Hi Sascha, many Thanks to for the Invitation. Yes, and I have me already a little heavy done with the thematic Lead to, because the but always somehow on Beginning so a pair Stumbling blocks with itself brings. And when we the today Topic take up, a Concept, a Model, the itself exactly for Self-awareness processes, for Reflection processes suitable, then have we it already also with one massive Concept to do, the Life script. Before we there but so steer in, Anteja, was it long not here in the Podcast. How goes it you? What do you like this? Thank you, me goes it good. I have actually straight last week a multi-day Script seminar with Horses and Aikido with one Colleague carried out. The was marvellous. It has really much Joy made. Also with all the, what the natural so on Processes brings along. But was exactly the Topic, the we straight have. With Horses? And also Participants still in addition, clear.
[2:42]Yes, was full fully booked. With Aikido, what Yes one yours Special topics is, that you also for yours Consultancy work prepared have. You are Aikido-Dahn carrier. Some say Champion, other say Experts. And like one the also designate may, but on each Case already quite wide advanced on one such Life path. The fourth, when I me right remember. The fifth. The fifth. Now can you perhaps say, what you mean with it, for the Listener and Listeners. With the fifth there? The fifth. I believe, there gives it not more much above. The was now so between us.
[3:23]Since gives it not more much above. And natural the Life script as Topic of the Seminars, what you there made have. So right in the middle in the Field of experience, the we today control want. Why is the important? Why should itself Consultant or Mediators, the so with Conflict counselling and Accompaniment to do have, itself so one Topic dedicate?
[3:43]So we have Yes so to speak also unconscious Sample and from the Transactional analysis say we Yes also, that much from us itself us not so aware is and before all possibly Things, the even not so pleasant are for us. And now is Conflicts Yes straight so a Topic, the is Yes mostly rather negative occupied also. I found it exciting, you had Yes recently in the Podcast one Colleague to the Topic Power and there have I somehow also about it thought. Since went it Yes also at Self-reflection and Power. And Conflict is a little perhaps similar, like the Topic Power, mostly rather negative occupied. And when the Clients ins Coaching come, then is it often the Topic, them should with Conflicts different avoid, them should Conflict competence acquire and mostly want People simple Conflicts only away, in Inverted commas. And there is it straight as Mediator, Mediator or also Counsellor Yes super important, the own Sample straight especially with regard to on Conflict to know also and itself aware to make, because I Yes otherwise possibly Potentials at all not perceive in the Counsellor role.
[4:54]Whole concrete Things perhaps hide, the Important would be, until towards to concrete Interventions, but also Hypotheses, the I derive or Frame of reference. How think I actually about Conflict? And in this respect find I the Range super important, straight when I as Subject of investigation one Conflict have, that I itself mine own, I name it individual Conflict culture, good know. The means also so whole practical, when I in the Mediation am and me as Mediator question, may I the now so say? May I now so act? Then becomes these Answer unreflectedly with mean.
[5:30]unconscious or unexplained Assumptions about Conflicts, about Parties to the conflict, about People connected be. And Self-reflection means in the Case it, itself before about it clear to become, what is mine Setting, mine Experience with conflictual Situations, with emotional burdening Situations. And the Life script topic offers in favour one Thinking and Work surface, me the to approach?
[6:03]
Self-awareness and life script in mediation
[6:00]So the own Sample simple also in the Conflict to know. So the own Feelings, the own Ways of thinking and the own Behaviours also concrete. And the Life script is Yes even a Concept or in the Reason taken one Metaphor, like all Concepts metaphorical to Understand are, from the Transactional analysis and offers also so a Centrepiece the Transactional analysis. One more Metaphor, the Centrepiece.
[6:25]As Centrepiece, exactly. Yes, exactly. Where it therefore goes, that this Life plan, the we develop, so the Life script, also Life plan called, that the unconsciously is to large Share. So he becomes even as more unconscious Life plan shown. And the offers in this respect a good Concept, because we about it Information on get can about these, like I it call, individual Conflict culture or mine own Conflict patterns. The means, the Idea is, it gives one Plan or Contents, the one as Plan Understand can, the we made have, not direct written down have, but we have them us published. And then are them unconsciously landed or is the unconsciously from Beginning on?
[7:12]How is the to understand, that there a Plan is? So can I the somewhere find? Yes, yes, clear. You search still wide enough in so one Forest. So unconsciously therefore, because we Yes already whole early the Idea is, that we the Life plan quasi to Start ours Life develop. And these whole early Experience, the we make in the first Weeks of life, months of life, also the first years of life, there are the Experience Yes rather Physical saved. The are not verbal, the are rather non-verbal, atmospheric. And these Parts, so this whole early Draft script, calls one that, applies as unconsciously, applies as complete Physical saved. Whilst then later we these Draft scripts always again change.
[8:02]Complete, but also again complete Change and at some point Yes then from one Age from three until five or like this, then these Contents are Yes quite conscious, there come we then already ran. Only one whole early Draft script not. And the is with unconsciously meant, because the Life plan, perhaps still this one Set, on it based, that we the itself develop have. Although under strong Influence the Parents, the Reference persons, the Surroundings and the becomes Yes also always further developed. But these first Idea from Dörn was Yes whole early childhood and at some point also completed. Since looks one today meanwhile a little different on it. So to speak that, what elsewhere as Embossing understood becomes. People become characterised, early, social localised, become itself certain Sample sociological considered form or Psychological certain Character types, the the Life path influence. The packs the Transactional analysis in a Concept named Life script and says then, and the is Yes whole on their Idea from Decision orientation, the has the one planned, in Times, on the he itself not reminds, but due to the Experience, the he made has.
[9:19]And the is a whole more individual Plan, the then also conductive works. And the was Yes the Idea then also then at least from Pear and Certainly today also yet, that we the in today blows of fate, Decision-making processes recognise can, that our Script activated is or realised becomes, unwound becomes. So understand I the Life script. The is so nothing Special features, but simple the Kind the exemplary Packaging very plastic made becomes.
[9:52]Exactly. And what you straight said have with the, what I say wanted and that, what you straight named was with the Decision, that we so to speak the on own Decisions based.
[10:03]This Word Decision is also so to understand, the is not like this, like we in the Adulthood now one large Decision meet,
[10:15]
The importance of unconscious patterns
[10:09]but it are Yes Customisation services. So the Child comes on the World and is complete dependent. So it gives Yes other Species, the are perhaps not so depending on scratch. We are as People, Children Yes very thereof dependent, that we supplied become, that ours Needs good supply. We are alone not viable with the Birth. I believe, we need on longest, until we Independent are. Whole exactly, we are dependent, we are not viable alone. The means, the Child developed Customisation services, and although very clever from the Child perspective, at also Needs Fulfilled to get. And these Accumulations, so Customisation services, the become as these Decisions called. The is a other Word, the we now in the Adults use, one other Meaning of the word.
[10:57]And so that the Things quasi one Sense result, the we experience, create we this Life script. The is the Idea, at one Orientation for the Lifestyle to have, at also ours Experience to connect, so past Experience and current Experience and also future, so that the for us one Sense give and so that we also one certain Predictability create, at more Security to develop. Because it is everything to this Time for us unpredictable, what happens. Later is it however even difficult, because we the quasi as unconscious Sample repeat. To the Part, it are Yes not only obstructive Things in the Life script, but also very many favourable Stuff, the we there developed have.
[11:42]But even also, at one Place to Find in the Context of the Family system to the Example or Daycare centre later School and Relationship design patterns. The is me still whole important, because there goes it Yes in Conflicts also drum. We develop the Script always in Relationship contexts. From the Wait here is it even then also one Possibility, the The future a little more predictable appear to leave. When I so there write in, me goes it with mine fellow human beings so and so and the experience I then also even, because I the like one self-fulfilling Prophecy then also planned have, then am I at least in safe Gefielden, also when it itself not good feels. The is one decisive Effect, believe me. And Decision is, believe me, again a Point, the wanted I again short again strong make, because the was for me fascinating always on the TA And at the same time then also with increasing Employment has the also one problematic Page get, these Decision orientation. And on Script is it me now clear become, also as you it named have, that everything in one Decision-making power packed becomes, of the Individuals, from the Therapy idea out. He has it in the Hand, he can itself today change your mind, he can the Script watch and paraphrase. But with the small Child, where we now say, OK, the meets Decisions.
[13:02]Since would we it, when we the Understanding so with Responsibility prove it, what the Term Decision with itself brings, then would we it whole beautiful overload, because the small Child simple not the Responsibility take over can, also when it itself later the Consequences carry must.
[13:17]Would you these Problem from Decision orientation also with so one double-edged Meaning provide or is the with you different connoted? The find I great, with you about it together to think about, because I find the Word actually also problematic. Because when I the one other Meaning of the word give, when I say, the are the Accumulations, the Customisation services, So the clever Customisation services of the Child on the Environment, on the Context, on the System. Then has it but one other Meaning as for Decisions in the Adulthood, because the Yes none aware selected Decision is. Clever Customisation services, there stuck Yes something inside, what even also on it indicates, that one about it weigh up can and one real Choice would have, clever or unwise to act.
[14:06]Yes, the right. So the wanted I namely straight say. From the Child perspective is there Yes not much Choice. So when it me in mine Family system not pleases with three, then can I not the Suitcase pack and say, you, I pull three Houses more to the Neighbours, the are always so nice to me. The is Yes completely absurd. From the Child perspective is at all none Choice in the childlike Reality, itself the select to can. Smart have I rather different meant. I have it rather meant as Resource and Commendation, because the Topic Script in the Transactional analysis and before all in the earlier Writings, also with Steiner and Byrne, has it Yes very from obstructive Factors characterised. And Vanita English has there Yes one very resource-orientated Perspective brought in.
[14:50]And have said, the are Yes also whole many favourable Things in the Script developed through the Child and the one also in the Adulthood then help. The said I with smart, but not in the Senses from Option. Yes, exactly. Since are we also between more practical Consultancy, where the one very effective and also facilitating Function has to listen, the was smart, what you made have, also when today the Decision, when you the more so continue in difficult Situations or like this, then Problems with itself brings. And the Designation stop, like can one the conceptualise. Since bring also the Terms Decision, Responsibility, clever or sensible always their Difficulties with itself. I find it interesting, because when I the now so mention in the Counselling with clever Decision, then is the mostly super helpful, because it relieving is. But with the Topic Decision, the is rather difficult, because then comes immediately the Thought, there have I Yes one own Responsibility, possibly, there am I Yes itself Guilt and at the goes it not. The becomes different experienced and I believe, the is script-dependent, like one the experienced.
[15:56]Absolutely, exactly. Because the like this, like you earlier also said have, the Script on itself is Yes like a Filter. So we watch Yes in the World through ours own Frame of reference. The is now although a other Concept as the Script, but ultimately is it the own World view or World model through these Experience, the we made have. And there can we Yes not step out. We can us Yes not outside from us itself the Things view. I can me there quite on precise Situations remember. For me was the actually one real Relief and Permission or so one Logic, the inside hung. Yes, I can the decide, I can it today different make. At least my always still also to much Therapy selected Self-image thereof goes out, that I very Decisive am, was the for me total suitable. And I found the total relieving, in difficult Situations to be heard, OK, I have the in the Hand, also when I it still not steer can, but the still me a little overstrained, but it is in principle in mine Area of sovereignty. Yes, the is the Beautiful on it, that we today even say, we can the Things change. We can us today a other Narrative tell. We must us not always these History again tell. Yes, and so that take I the Bow or the Branch, the itself earlier also already again clear made has. When the own Script or it has Contents, the Relationship patterns and Establishing a relationship and Shaping relationships includes, the can one believe I in Security so say, that these Contents with each Script contain are.
[17:25]
Influence of childhood experiences on conflicts
[17:26]Then has it Effects on today Relationship building. And the is the direct Path to the Work, to the Counselling work. As Coach like you and Trainer and Counsellor, as Mediator is one whole belonging Portion the Task, Relationship work or Shaping relationships to organise. And from this Wait becomes clearly, it does Not, itself so that to employ. What is man, what am I for a Type in certain situations? What are Pattern, in the I always again new design and me about it not in the Clear am? It gives Certainly Points, there am I me perfect in the Clear and can I then think, there am I Satisfied or not satisfied. But the Life script shall help, before all the unconscious Patterns on the Track to come.
[18:14]So first the as Thesis, would you the say? How succeeds that? How can I me the imagine? How can itself Mediators the introduce, that the Employment with the Life script one whole practical Labour is? The own Conflict issues times to look at, so itself itself in the Principle so that to employ. To the Example, like was because in mine Disease family with Conflicts dealt with? What gave it there for Phrases to the Example? Gab it there to the Example Phrases how, the Smarter goes to or, and now trusts you again, when the Children among each other somehow itself disputed have. Until one howls, was with us always. We were four Boys, until one howls. Or until one howls, exactly. And what means because so a Set actually? Man had to watch out, that one not the one is. Yes, and what means the today for you? How good can you Tears Allow to the Example? So one could simple times watch, what means the because actually? So straight when one now also one smarter Gymnasts or something like that makes, becomes one then at all serious taken? Can one itself at all with the own Position represent and the own Point of view represent? Worthwhile it itself at all, clever to become?
[19:30]Yes, whole exactly, whole exactly. Worthwhile itself that. Yes, itself with such Themes times to employ. So straight to the Example so certain Sentences, the one so in Sense come, like you now equal this in Sense comes, yours own. I have five other filtered out before. Five other have I filtered out, the are not.
[19:49]And also, like have the because the Parents with each other made? Or the Siblings, the is straight, what you say, Siblings and Constellation among each other is Yes very scripting also. Or like experience we these Shaping relationships? And none I don't know, has the Father the Conflict finished? So, now tolerate we us all again and now is quiet. Or something like that to the Example. Now Peace and quiet in the Cardboard. Now is Peace and quiet in the Cardboard. So like was the actually? That one itself the simple times more accurate looks at. And later but also, what I total Important find, it is Yes very, with Byrne still in the Origin, very on the Family gone. Sure, the Family is natural super important. It are but also the Contexts important. The Day care centre, the School, the whole Primary school, the whole Teenage years. How was because the there with Conflicts? What was rather promoted perhaps? What was Rejected and devalued? And by one itself the to the Example simple also times clear makes. Screams I with Conflicts Yay or try I everything, at the Conflict even not first arise to leave? About these Thoughts to earlier, comes one there already some Patterns on the Track? The means, I have now times so really, sometimes clichéd, but so the First best taken.
[21:04]I have now times so the first best Set, the me there immediately comes or the first Idea and the first Reminder. How was because the like this? How was the terminated or like this? So is that, because it me still present is, the important Situation and the important Contents, where I now mine Sample therein Recognise should? Or goes it at Things, the me not now simple in the Conversation immediately come to mind, but…
[21:29]The I perhaps forget have? So mean you, it gives there still more after that? I have now like this, there came then the Elders pure or there came the Reputation from the Kitchen, until one howls and then makes he again like this. So the are Yes the Things, the present are.
[21:43]
Reflection on own conflict experiences
[21:43]What is important, when you say, we Go life script orientated ran? Is the already the Point, where I say could, so that must I continue working? Both. The one is yes, what falls you so in? The other is but, what falls you not in? You is it now so present, but it gives People, the remember, the first ten Years of life almost even nothing. Ten Years of life? Yes, it gives it. Hardly what, hardly. Memories, Fragments maybe. But the Point is Yes for the first time, certain Things at all to remember. Exactly, so that, what me spontaneous comes, the to reflect. The, what me even not comes to mind, is also again important. Perhaps falls it me first in the Shaping relationships in. Perhaps falls it me, when I Mediator, Mediator am, first through one Supervision a to one certain Case, the I straight accompany and I go in one Supervision and then becomes there again clearly, that I certain Things Yes even not on the Idea know, them to address, because I them not perceived have, because I them due to mine own Experience perhaps faded out have.
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[23:00]I likes still so a little yours Experience also as Teachers Transaction analyst or also Instructor for Coaching and difficult Conversations, the then led become, a little tap. I employ me so that and white now more about me. How becomes me clear or perhaps also before, before I the made have, clearly, that the also me as Consultant better does? What becomes then possible, when I me a new Narrative tell? Or when I more about me experienced have, what I before not knew, but can her also mean, the is stop mine thing. How would be I thereby a better Consultant?
[23:39]So we Go Yes not in one professional Role the Counsellor, of the Consultant or Mediator and are then other People. So we take us itself Yes with, with all the, what we so far experienced have. We can Yes not in the Role go in and ours Wealth of experience complete omit. The means, there are the Topics, like create I mine Expertise from, mine Possibilities?
[24:06]And the is even very strong thereof dependent, like reflected, so not only reflected, also like much have I so that worked. The one is yes, I make me the aware and the other is, I work the Things also through. When I now to the Example very conflict-averse am, so Conflicts for me rather difficult are, then will I possibly also in one unpleasant Situation for mine Clients not so confront, like it perhaps Helpful for them would be, so that them the next Development step make. And then will I it perhaps also not encourage, the to confront. When I itself one Presentation have from, well, better would be it already, them tolerate itself now. Or Conflicts, know you, what I mine? When I in the Role now as Counsellor go, so the Hour goes go, then gives it already Points, the I outside before leave must, where I say must, Human, Private life and what now somehow today Tomorrow was or yesterday Evening, the leave I outside before. And but I must also some take with you, what me also Helps then as Counsellor. And this Selection process, the would me then lighter fall or professional more appropriate fall.
[25:16]Is the that, where you say, there could then simple a Leap in quality also in the Improvement mine professional Labour enter? I likes still one Step more go. I am even not on the Level, that me the so clear is, that I me the before clear make can with the Role. Since have we also good Models, to the Example this Roll-three-puppies model. The is Yes a good Model, at itself the Role again to make clear and also again good to reflect, what belongs to because here pure in these professional Counselling situation and where are own Themes triggered. But there goes it Yes already go. So what happens actually in the Relationship events between Counsellor and Client or Client system? On this Relationship level the Systems pass Yes already Things, the whole much with the own Patterns the Participants to do were. And that I the at all get the message.
[26:13]What there at all happens, so when I a confronting Feedback to the Example give from the Counsellor role, what happens in the Transmission and in the Countertransference reaction? So the Person listens it perhaps as critical, can the not good accept, is then with Adjustment and Rebellion achievements busy and listens the Contents at all not. And with me comes perhaps one Confrontation inhibition. Can I me expect with the, what I there say wants? So I wars one Countertransference reaction and has the what with me to do and mine Pattern? Or is the now pure from this System now originated as Example? So the is again one other Level, as you you meant. The can I understand. And the leaves itself not so technical map. The is not so one Technology simple, the then enables or not enables becomes, but the is rather so really one atmospheric Level.
[27:04]So comes me the before, where I simple say, I can today good work, I feel me today good with the Labour or also not and I can the on this Level rather so only not technical represent. Technical is perhaps already the Part the Counselling competence, where I on the Process good look can. What happens because here in the Process and to what extent are here Parallel processes to the Example on Effect and what have the with me to do as Counsellor in the Role? When one so a Script seminar or so one Script analysis makes, then is it rare like this, I have also a Concept, where I actually the whole Life look at, the is a little longer Seminar, but in the Rule looks one Yes nevertheless to, Facets and Fragments on and not the Complete, but one concentrated itself on one Part. So one can one typical Childhood conflicts quasi on the Track come. What was because there difficult and like works itself the Potential today out? So where activate I possibly Pattern, where them even not Helpful are, neither for me still for my Client system. The in turn is important, that I good in the Supervision am and the Processes also realise can. And the Part is already also in the Senses of the learning.
[28:19]Technical Learning would I it perhaps not name, but in the Senses the Professionalisation. So the both Keywords, I believe, the is a more important Aspect, the I also in mine Labour experience as Instructor. It gives this Aspect of the Learning from Technology. In the Coaching probably exactly the same, but I stay times with the Mediation, where I so certain Techniques learn, the sample I then. And then experience I Training candidates, the very endeavours are, the right to make and there itself so to speak one Shape give. The is also a little so in the Aikido, that one very form orientated works and one is not so to speak in one free Flow. The is simple still not on it, but one is still very strong on the Search and the Thought is, make I it right?
[29:00]The is the one. And the other is then, these Technology is Yes learns, the becomes one certain Routine. It gives one Style, the itself then trains and the becomes then to one Corset and there to get out is not more with Technology and Learning connected, but the Script is important.
[29:19]Effective and leaves certain Things not to. And I experience the with Mediation, when then the Pressure to Large becomes, because the Participants not in Inverted commas take part, because them simple the Things different See and not so and then the Mediator or the Mediator really with the Latin ans End comes and then casual formulated abusive becomes, then from the Skin drive can, because it simple not more works. The has nothing more with the Knowledge of the Procedure or the Technology to do, but the is a Area, the new conquered become wants. And that, would I so under Script aspects say, there become new Possibilities developed. And the runs mostly about such Breakthrough situations, the one negative rated to the Motto, the can but not true be. Since knew I simple not continue. The with the Corset found I whole interesting, because the is the Point, where Personality development start, where the Personality development aspect while the Further training, So straight in Transactional analysis, the stands Yes in the Foreground. The Theory is so one. The Theory can I also much read more. But the Realisation, so the practical Labour and that I then there seats, so like you say, when I with mine Latin on End am, then am I as Counsellor itself Instrument and completely independent from Methods. When I me before one Method consider, then comes guaranteed a Case, where the Method even not fits.
[30:38]So like much? Okay, I thought already, the would be only with me like this. So the is good to listen. How can I there in Peace and quiet quasi sit and the record, really in Contact us go, yes, there also a Trust in this Process develop?
[30:56]
Personal development during counselling
[30:53]And there needs it simple whole much Personal development. Yes, I have there simple also much worked through and reflected. And when what comes, what I still not reflected have, then is the also in Order. Since can I with Curiosity answer and with Interest. And the must I not play, but the is then really awakened. Yes, there can I perhaps then also say, yes, there white I now also not continue, there know we straight together not continue, then leave we the but times form. Perhaps white I in five minutes what or You know what.
[31:24]And that, what itself depicts, in the Process also again to watch, what forms itself exactly in the Moment from and the also stand to leave. Since work Yes the Co-creative schools in the TA very strong with it. I likes again, that I now the Branch take to Techniques and Models, Because now so to speak could I the last minutes also localise, the brings the Experience with itself. Since become we as Consultant always better with the Time. Since can we so simple on it trust, that we simple Experience make, also with problematic Processes. And the makes us then, Bracket on, automatically, Bracket to, better. Here is Yes the Idea then to say, nope, nope, we need already Concepts, Models, must Exercises apply, concrete, aware work, the comes not from alone.
[32:10]Would you say, that the Life script so a Model is, what so to speak works? Experience first professionalised, so the one made has as Mediator? So it goes Yes not only at the Experience, but at the Reflection the Experience. And partly speak we also in the Transactional analysis from correcting Experience, so by we us other Experience enable, the the cover and overwrite, what perhaps a negative Sample was. So these Change from Share of the Life, the we aware make, because them us in the today Life always again quasi prevent in Situations. And the goes Yes not from alone away. We mix up Yes sometimes to the Example People simple on one emotional Level. The Person, the before us is, the has at all nothing with the Person to do, with the we one certain difficult Experience made have. And the project we on the Person today and have corresponding Feelings, Thoughts, Behaviour. The is not helpful, because it is today one other Situation. We have other Possibilities. And the is not simple only the Experience.
[33:19]The must good accompanied become and reflected become, Experience. Absolutely, whole exactly. It must good accompanied become. Before all, because it is again important, as we the Experience made have, were we mostly alone, at least emotional alone. Even when there People were, were the emotional not with us. And then is it important, the Experience not alone to repeat, but in Accompaniment from People, the there are and Helpful are, again one new Experience to make. Possibly but also the Pain again a little to feel from at that time, and to watch, OK, like can I now today one new Experience make. Natalia, many Thanks to. The was one scripting Journey of dialogue through a Topic, the with one Education, the is me already also again clear become, the, itself when them itself Large calls, 200 Hours in the Mediation, With far still not on the, says I times.
[34:14]Traditional Training methods from Therapists, from Transaction analysts also, the simple the Five- until Tenfold simple with itself bring. And the Topic also is there. These years of Accompaniment from Experience, then also as Counsellor, that the necessary becomes. And there have we in the Mediation good Role models in the other Counselling professions, but are but Relative fast so to speak on ours Practice thrown back and can the then with Supervision, the also obligatory are and the like, in Approaches catch. But the Topic Life script and like her the also in the Transactional analysis concerns, the is already again a whole other Scope, at there Counselling work to perform. Many Thanks to for the Insight and for the Experiential knowledge. Thank you you.
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Conclusion on script work in mediation
[35:08]Natalia, until to the next Times, says me. Yes, until to the next Times. Bye bye. My Conversation with Natalia Berio-Antrade to the Topic Script work for Process consultant, Mediator, Conflict counsellor.
[35:27]It is clear become, that and why it itself worthwhile, with the own Script as Model on the Track to come, like we itself to Conflicts stand, which Experience we made have.
[35:43]Which unconscious Conclusions we from it drawn have, the us today not only in the Private the Life co-design help or also heavy make, but also ours professional Labour concern and there Boundaries hang up. Only in the Realisation and Processing this Experience new Possibilities the Consultancy services, the whole own individual Counselling work and, wants I so say, stylistic Characterisation then enables become. Yes, and when you Interest in on Mediation or Counselling work found have about this Podcast here or you you also one Further training or even Education introduce can, then report you but and look you the Offers from INKOVEMA to this Out and Further training more accurate to. And when you these Episode here please has and the Podcast generally you appeals, then leave behind but with pleasure one Valuation and a Feedback on Apple Podcast or Google Business. Recommend the Podcast more and subscribe him, if you the still not done have. For the Moment thank you I me, that you again here with thereby was and say goodbye me with the best Wishes. Until to the next Times. Come good through the Time. I am Sascha Weigel, yours Host from IncoFEMA, the Institute for Conflict and Negotiation management in Leipzig and Partner for professional Mediation and Coaching training programmes.
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