{"id":20084,"date":"2026-06-19T09:47:26","date_gmt":"2026-06-19T07:47:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/?p=20084"},"modified":"2026-06-19T10:19:27","modified_gmt":"2026-06-19T08:19:27","slug":"277-gddz-wuetende-maenner-vergessene-jungen-eva-ladipo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/277-gddz-wuetende-maenner-vergessene-jungen-eva-ladipo\/","title":{"rendered":"#277 GddZ &#8211; W\u00fctende M\u00e4nner, vergessene Jungen. Im Gespr\u00e4ch mit Eva Ladipo"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling gradient-container-1\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>INKOVEMA-Podcast &#8222;Gut durch die Zeit&#8220;<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#277 GddZ<\/h1>\n<h1>W\u00fctende M\u00e4nner, vergessene Jungen<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-3 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>Konfliktpotenziale im Zuge gesellschaftlicher Aufmerksamkeitsverschiebung und abwertender Deutungsmuster<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-4 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h3>Im Gespr\u00e4ch mit Eva Ladipo<\/h3><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><p>Eva Ladipo, geboren 1974, studierte Politische Wissenschaften in Cambridge und wurde mit einer Arbeit \u00fcber das russische Steuersystem promoviert.<\/p>\n<p>Sie hat in Russland, Kolumbien und in den USA gearbeitet und wohnt heute mit ihrer Familie in London. Sie schreibt regelm\u00e4\u00dfig f\u00fcr deutsche Zeitungen.<\/p>\n<p>Journalistische Positionen als Redakteurin, Ressortleiterin und Korrespondentin bei der F.A.Z., \u201eFinancial Times Deutschland\u201c, \u201eVanity Fair\u201c, \u201eFinancial Times\u201c und \u201eDie Welt\u201c. Ihr erster Roman \u201eWende\u201c ist bei Picus erschienen, ihr zweiter \u201eR\u00e4uber\u201c bei Blessing. Sie hat in Russland, Kolumbien und in den USA gearbeitet, bevor sie in Gro\u00dfbritannien gelandet ist. Verheiratet, zwei Kinder.<\/p>\n<p>Ihr Buch &#8222;Not am Mann. Die Erfindung der toxischen M\u00e4nnlichkeit&#8220; erschien 2026 bei Reclam.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema.podigee.io\/278-277-gddz-wutende-manner-vergessene-jungen-im-gesprach-mit-eva-ladipo\/embed?context=external\"><\/script>\n\n\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><h1><strong>Inhalt<\/strong><\/h1>\n<h2><strong>Kapitel:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"\"><\/div>\n<div>\n<h2 class=\"font-bold pb-4\">Chapters<\/h2>\n<div data-testid=\"chapter-table-of-contents\">\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">0:05 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Einstieg ins M\u00e4nnerthema<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">3:12 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Trumps M\u00e4nner und Protestwahl<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">7:33 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Schubladen statt Charakter<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">11:24 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Defensivreaktion auf Vorurteile<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">13:58 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Ursprung der toxischen M\u00e4nnlichkeit<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">17:27 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Was macht einen Mann aus?<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">20:04 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Der Druck auf junge M\u00e4nner<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">23:21 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Verunsicherung im Arbeitsleben<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">25:33 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>M\u00e4nner verlieren an Anerkennung<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">29:04 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Materielle Ursachen der Wut<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">31:52 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Toxisch im falschen Moment<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">34:41 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Die Allianz von Mann und Frau<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">35:50 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Ungleiche Chancen bei Bildung<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">37:41 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Hoffnung auf neue Debatte<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<h2 class=\"font-bold pb-4\">Zusammenfassung<\/h2>\n<div class=\"focus:p-1 focus:outline-indigo-600\" contenteditable=\"true\" data-testid=\"summary-long\">\n<p>In dieser Folge spreche ich mit der <strong>Autorin Eva Ladipo<\/strong> \u00fcber das <strong>Deutungsmuster \u201eMann\u201c als Problemfigur in Konflikten,<\/strong> in der \u00d6ffentlichkeit und im Arbeitsleben. Ausgangspunkt ist die Beobachtung, dass M\u00e4nner zunehmend nicht mehr \u00fcber Rolle, Charakter oder konkrete Situation beschrieben werden, sondern pauschal als Ursache von Schwierigkeiten. Dabei haben <strong>M\u00e4nner dreifach verloren<\/strong>: <strong>wirtschaftlich, kulturell und politisch.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ich spreche mit Eva Ladipo \u00fcber ihr <strong>Buch \u201eNot am Mann. Die Erfindung toxischer M\u00e4nnlichkeit\u201c.<\/strong> Sie erkl\u00e4rt, dass die Debatte um m\u00e4nnliche Wut und Abwendung von der gesellschaftlichen Mitte auch durch politische Entwicklungen wie die Wiederwahl von Donald Trump und hohe Stimmenanteile junger M\u00e4nner f\u00fcr Protestparteien angesto\u00dfen wurde.<\/p>\n<p>Ein Schwerpunkt liegt auf der Frage, warum besonders junge M\u00e4nner unter Druck stehen und weshalb sie den populistischen Brandstiftern verfallen. Wir besprechen, dass materielle Bedingungen schwieriger geworden sind, etwa durch unsichere Jobs, niedrigere Einkommen, hohe Wohnkosten und st\u00e4rkere soziale Ungleichheit, was bereits der <strong>\u00d6konom Branko Milanovi\u0107 2008 mit seiner Elefantenkurve<\/strong> beschrieben hat. Zugleich sind Frauen heute weniger auf M\u00e4nner angewiesen, was die Erwartungen an M\u00e4nner als Versorger ver\u00e4ndert.<\/p>\n<p>Wir gehen auch auf die Wirkung des Begriffs \u201etoxische M\u00e4nnlichkeit\u201c ein. Ladibo beschreibt ihn als urspr\u00fcnglich medizinischen Begriff, der heute oft als pauschale Verurteilung von M\u00e4nnern verstanden werde. Sie warnt davor, ganze Gruppen moralisch abzuwerten, weil das zu Abwehr und Verh\u00e4rtung f\u00fchren kann.<\/p>\n<p>Am Ende sprechen wir \u00fcber Reaktionen auf das Buch und dar\u00fcber, dass das Thema in Deutschland noch zur\u00fcckhaltend aufgenommen werde. Zugleich sehen wir Anzeichen, dass die Diskussion \u00fcber Jungen, M\u00e4nner und ihre Rolle st\u00e4rker in den Blick kommt.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"elegant-image elegant-image-0 elegant-align-center \"><div class=\"elegant-image-wrapper\"><a href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Die-3-Dimensionen-der-Verhandlung.png\" class=\"fusion-lightbox\" data-rel=\"iLightbox[elegant-image-0]\" data-caption=\"\" data-title=\"\"><img class=\"lazyload\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%27800%27%20height%3D%27533%27%20viewBox%3D%270%200%20800%20533%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%27800%27%20height%3D%27533%27%20fill-opacity%3D%220%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-orig-src=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/Elefantenkurve-2008-Branko-Milanovic-comic.png\" alt=\"\" style=\"width:800px;\"\/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"elegant-image-blur-shadow\"><img class=\"lazyload\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%27800%27%20height%3D%27533%27%20viewBox%3D%270%200%20800%20533%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%27800%27%20height%3D%27533%27%20fill-opacity%3D%220%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-orig-src=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/Elefantenkurve-2008-Branko-Milanovic-comic.png\" alt=\"\" style=\"width:800px;\"\/><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\"><\/style><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-3\"><p>Die <strong class=\"Yjhzub\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \">Elefantenkurve<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/strong> (elephant chart) ist eine vom \u00d6konomen <span class=\"\" data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \">Branko Milanovi\u0107<!--TgQPHd||[[\"https:\/\/www.suhrkamp.de\/buch\/branko-milanovic-die-ungleiche-welt-t-9783518470855\",null,null,[null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,[]],16,null,\"Die ungleiche Welt. Buch von Branko Milanovi\u0107 (Suhrkamp ...\",\"Kaum einem Forscher gelingt, was Branko Milanovi\u0107 gelungen ist: mit einer Grafik weltber\u00fchmt werden. Seine \u00bbElefantenkurve\u00ab zeigt, wie sich die Einkommen der Menschen rund um den Globus in den Jahren 1988 bis 2008 entwickelt haben. Der Trend ist eindeutig: Der Globale S\u00fcden holt auf, w\u00e4hrend die Mittelschichten der westlichen L\u00e4nder zu den Verlierern der letzten Dekaden geh\u00f6ren \u2013 und die Reichen werden immer reicher. Ungleichheit, so Milanovi\u0107, ist zu einem perfekten N\u00e4hrboden f\u00fcr... Mehr anzeigen. Kaum einem Forscher gelingt, was Branko Milanovi\u0107 gelungen ist: mit einer Grafik weltber\u00fchmt werden. Seine \u00bbElefantenkurve\u00ab zeigt, wie sich die Einkommen der Menschen rund um den Globus in den Jahren 1988 bis ...\",\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com\/images?q\\u003dtbn:ANd9GcT--MyEkxwf3ALRtYn3qs89nbm9Y5k-8g5qEqbG9dh3dFbIyuejKCHu4JYKvTeJPovwdVn4_fTEubj4SgI\",\"Suhrkamp Verlag\",\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com\/faviconV2?url\\u003dhttps:\/\/www.suhrkamp.de\\u0026client\\u003dAIM\\u0026size\\u003d128\\u0026type\\u003dFAVICON\\u0026fallback_opts\\u003dTYPE,SIZE,URL\",[[1781852236821516,66143995,1193706578],null,null,null,null,[[2,0,0,5]]],null,\"2ba60c80-7e55-44ae-948d-e62b9d263d4d\"]]--><\/span> entwickelte Grafik, die das weltweite Einkommenswachstum zwischen 1988 und 2008 darstellt. Sie zeigt, wer von der Globalisierung profitiert hat und wer nicht, und hat durch ihre Form \u2013 die an einen Elefanten erinnert \u2013 Ber\u00fchmtheit erlangt.<\/p>\n<p>Milanovi\u0107s Grafik erlangte weltweite Ber\u00fchmtheit, weil sie eine \u00f6konomische Erkl\u00e4rung f\u00fcr <strong class=\"Yjhzub\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-processed=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">politische Umbr\u00fcche im Westen<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/strong> lieferte. Die wirtschaftliche Stagnation und die Abstiegs\u00e4ngste der westlichen Mittelschicht (der \u201eTrog\" der Kurve) gelten als Hauptursachen f\u00fcr den Erfolg von populistischen Bewegungen, den Brexit und die Wahl von Donald Trump.<\/p>\n<p>Die Grafik zeigt ein fundamentales Paradoxon der Globalisierung: W\u00e4hrend die Ungleichheit <em class=\"eujQNb\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-processed=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">zwischen<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/em> den L\u00e4ndern der Erde abnahm (da Asien aufholte), versch\u00e4rfte sich die Ungleichheit <em class=\"eujQNb\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-processed=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">innerhalb<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/em> der westlichen Industrienationen massiv.<\/p>\n<p>Im Einzelnen:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong class=\"Yjhzub\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">Der K\u00f6rper (Die \u00c4rmsten):<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/strong> Am ganz linken Rand (ca. 0 bis 10 Prozent) stagniert die Kurve auf niedrigem Niveau. Die \u00e4rmsten Menschen der Welt \u2013 prim\u00e4r in afrikanischen L\u00e4ndern s\u00fcdlich der Sahara \u2013 erlebten kaum nennenswerte Einkommenszuw\u00e4chse und blieben abgeh\u00e4ngt.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"T286Pc\" data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\"><strong class=\"Yjhzub\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">Der R\u00fccken (Die Globalisierungsgewinner):<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/strong> Bei den Perzentilen 40 bis 60 steigt die Kurve massiv an (bis zu 70\u201380 % Zuwachs). Dies repr\u00e4sentiert die <strong class=\"Yjhzub\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">aufsteigende Mittelschicht in Asien<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/strong>, insbesondere in <span class=\"\" data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">China<!--TgQPHd||[[\"https:\/\/www.suhrkamp.de\/buch\/branko-milanovic-die-ungleiche-welt-t-9783518470855\",null,null,[null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,null,[]],16,null,\"Die ungleiche Welt. Buch von Branko Milanovi\u0107 (Suhrkamp ...\",\"Kaum einem Forscher gelingt, was Branko Milanovi\u0107 gelungen ist: mit einer Grafik weltber\u00fchmt werden. Seine \u00bbElefantenkurve\u00ab zeigt, wie sich die Einkommen der Menschen rund um den Globus in den Jahren 1988 bis 2008 entwickelt haben. Der Trend ist eindeutig: Der Globale S\u00fcden holt auf, w\u00e4hrend die Mittelschichten der westlichen L\u00e4nder zu den Verlierern der letzten Dekaden geh\u00f6ren \u2013 und die Reichen werden immer reicher. Ungleichheit, so Milanovi\u0107, ist zu einem perfekten N\u00e4hrboden f\u00fcr... Mehr anzeigen. Kaum einem Forscher gelingt, was Branko Milanovi\u0107 gelungen ist: mit einer Grafik weltber\u00fchmt werden. Seine \u00bbElefantenkurve\u00ab zeigt, wie sich die Einkommen der Menschen rund um den Globus in den Jahren 1988 bis ...\",\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com\/images?q\\u003dtbn:ANd9GcT--MyEkxwf3ALRtYn3qs89nbm9Y5k-8g5qEqbG9dh3dFbIyuejKCHu4JYKvTeJPovwdVn4_fTEubj4SgI\",\"Suhrkamp Verlag\",\"https:\/\/encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com\/faviconV2?url\\u003dhttps:\/\/www.suhrkamp.de\\u0026client\\u003dAIM\\u0026size\\u003d128\\u0026type\\u003dFAVICON\\u0026fallback_opts\\u003dTYPE,SIZE,URL\",[[1781854560529520,117622487,3657917998],null,null,null,null,[[2,0,15]]],null,\"997ac720-f4fc-4879-8c5f-9914517ff281\"]]--><\/span> und Indien. Hunderte Millionen Menschen wurden hier durch die Industrialisierung aus der extremen Armut geholt.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><strong class=\"Yjhzub\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">Das Tal (Die westliche Arbeiterschaft):<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/strong> Um das 80. Perzentil f\u00e4llt die Kurve dramatisch ab und n\u00e4hert sich fast der Null-Linie. Dies ist die <strong class=\"Yjhzub\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">untere Mittelschicht und Arbeiterschaft der westlichen Industriel\u00e4nder<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/strong> (Europa und USA). Ihre Reall\u00f6hne stagnierten \u00fcber zwei Jahrzehnte hinweg, da Produktionsarbeitspl\u00e4tze nach Asien verlagert wurden.<\/li>\n<li><span class=\"T286Pc\" data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\"><strong class=\"Yjhzub\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">Der R\u00fcssel (Die globale Elite):<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/strong> Am \u00e4u\u00dfersten rechten Rand (das oberste 1 Prozent) schie\u00dft die Kurve senkrecht in die H\u00f6he. Die <strong class=\"Yjhzub\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 600; margin: 0px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\">globalen Superreichen<!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/strong> und Spitzenverdiener konnten ihr ohnehin immenses Verm\u00f6gen und Einkommen in der \u00c4ra der Globalisierung noch einmal drastisch vervielfachen.<\/span><!--TgQPHd||[]-->\n<ul class=\"KsbFXc U6u95\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-processed=\"true\" data-copy-service-computed-style=\"font-family: \"Google Sans\", Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-weight: 400; margin: 12px 0px 16px; text-decoration: none; border-bottom: 0px rgb(10, 10, 10);\"><!--TgQPHd||[]--><\/ul>\n<div class=\"Fsg96\" data-sfc-cp=\"\" data-sfc-root=\"ep\" data-sfc-cb=\"\" data-complete=\"true\" data-processed=\"true\" data-sfc-inited=\"2\" 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fusion-content-box-hover content-box-column-last content-box-column-last-in-row\"><div class=\"col content-box-wrapper content-wrapper-background content-wrapper-boxed link-area-link-icon link-type-button icon-hover-animation-fade\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div class=\"heading heading-with-icon icon-left\"><a class=\"heading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-wirtschaftsmediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><div class=\"icon\"><i style=\"border-color:#81a0b8;border-width:1px;background-color:#d62f31;box-sizing:content-box;height:40px;width:40px;line-height:40px;top:-70px;margin-left:-20px;border-radius:50%;font-size:20px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"fontawesome-icon fa-info-circle fas circle-yes\"><\/i><\/div><h2 class=\"content-box-heading fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"--h2_typography-font-size:18px;--fontSize:18;line-height:1.5;\">Ausbildung Organisationsmediation - Mediation in und f\u00fcr Organisationen.<\/h2><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><div class=\"content-container\">\n<p>Organisationsmediation ist die Bearbeitung von Konflikten, die in der Wirtschafts -und Arbeitswelt aufkommen. Sie findet in, mit und f\u00fcr die Organisation statt \u2013 indem den relevanten Organisationsmitgliedern eine angemessene Bearbeitung der Konflikte erm\u00f6glicht wird.<\/p>\n<p>Wir bilden Sie daf\u00fcr aus oder professionalisieren Ihre mediatorische, konfliktberaterische Vorgehensweise. Wir starten unsere Fortbildungsreihe regelm\u00e4\u00dfig im M\u00e4rz eines Jahres.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><a class=\"fusion-read-more-button fusion-content-box-button fusion-button button-default fusion-button-default-size button- button-flat\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-wirtschaftsmediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"fusion-button-text\">Mehr Informationen hier...<\/span><\/a><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"accordian fusion-accordian\" style=\"--awb-border-size:1px;--awb-icon-size:13px;--awb-content-font-size:18px;--awb-icon-alignment:left;--awb-hover-color:#b4c6d6;--awb-border-color:#b4c6d6;--awb-background-color:#ffffff;--awb-divider-color:#e0dede;--awb-divider-hover-color:#e0dede;--awb-icon-color:#ffffff;--awb-title-color:#356b8c;--awb-content-color:#4f4f4f;--awb-icon-box-color:#004767;--awb-toggle-hover-accent-color:#666666;--awb-title-font-family:&quot;Rubik&quot;;--awb-title-font-weight:regular;--awb-title-font-style:normal;--awb-title-font-size:16px;--awb-content-font-family:&quot;Rubik&quot;;--awb-content-font-style:normal;--awb-content-font-weight:300;\"><div class=\"panel-group fusion-toggle-icon-boxed\" id=\"accordion-20084-1\"><div class=\"fusion-panel panel-default panel-fcc79dc04c5157ac2 fusion-toggle-no-divider fusion-toggle-boxed-mode\" style=\"--awb-title-color:#356b8c;--awb-content-color:#4f4f4f;\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><h4 class=\"panel-title toggle\" id=\"toggle_fcc79dc04c5157ac2\"><a aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"fcc79dc04c5157ac2\" role=\"button\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-parent=\"#accordion-20084-1\" data-target=\"#fcc79dc04c5157ac2\" href=\"#fcc79dc04c5157ac2\"><span class=\"fusion-toggle-icon-wrapper\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><i class=\"fa-fusion-box active-icon awb-icon-minus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><i class=\"fa-fusion-box inactive-icon awb-icon-plus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-toggle-heading\">erw\u00e4hnte Literatur<\/span><\/a><\/h4><\/div><div id=\"fcc79dc04c5157ac2\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"toggle_fcc79dc04c5157ac2\"><div class=\"panel-body toggle-content fusion-clearfix\">\n<ul>\n<li>Galloway, Scott: Notes of being a man. How to address the masculinity crisis, build mental strength and raise good sons, 2025.<\/li>\n<li>Ladipo, Eva: Not am Mann. Die Erfindung der toxischen M\u00e4nnlichkeit, Suhrkamp 2026.<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"desktop mb-1\"><span class=\"s-regular\">Milanovi\u0107, Branko:\u00a0 <\/span>Die ungleiche Welt.\u00a0Migration, das Eine Prozent und die Zukunft der Mittelschicht. Suhrkamp, 2020.<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"desktop mb-1\">Reeves, Richard V.: Of Boys and Men<span class=\"element-text-standard untertitel\">Why the modern male is struggling, why it matters, and what to do about it. 2022.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-3 content-boxes-clean-horizontal content-left content-boxes-icon-on-side\" style=\"--awb-backgroundcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-title-color:#ea505f;--awb-iconcolor:#ea505f;--awb-hover-accent-color:#ea505f;--awb-circle-hover-accent-color:#ea505f;--awb-item-margin-bottom:40px;\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div style=\"--awb-backgroundcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-iconcolor:#ea505f;--awb-content-padding-left:92px;border-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);\" class=\"fusion-column content-box-column content-box-column content-box-column-1 col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-sm-12 fusion-content-box-hover content-box-column-last content-box-column-last-in-row\"><div class=\"col content-box-wrapper content-wrapper-background link-area-box icon-hover-animation-fade\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div class=\"heading heading-with-icon icon-left\"><div class=\"icon\"><i style=\"border-color:#333333;border-width:1px;background-color:#333333;box-sizing:content-box;height:70px;width:70px;line-height:70px;border-radius:50%;font-size:35px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"fontawesome-icon fa-file-alt fas circle-yes\"><\/i><\/div><h2 class=\"content-box-heading fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"--h2_typography-font-size:18px;--fontSize:18;line-height:1.5;padding-left:92px;\">Transkript<\/h2><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><div class=\"content-container\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"w-full\">\n<div class=\"py-12 px-2\" data-testid=\"transcript-editor\">\n<h2 id=\"transcript-editor\" class=\"text-2xl pb-8 px-&#091;11px&#093; font-bold tracking-tight scroll-mt-20\">Transkript<\/h2>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_0\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"0.02\" data-end-seconds=\"4.29\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:00]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Die Frage, wenn man es dann zum Erwachsenen geschafft hat, was muss man tun,<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118286\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[0:05]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Einstieg ins M\u00e4nnerthema<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_1\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"4.29\" data-end-seconds=\"81.95\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:04]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">um ein echter Mann zu sein? Herzlich willkommen zum Podcast Gut durch die Zeit. Der Podcast rund um Mediation, Konfliktcoaching und Organisationsberatung. Ein Podcast von INKOVEMA. Ich bin Sascha Weigel und begr\u00fc\u00dfe dich zu einer neuen Folge. Zunehmend, so mein Eindruck, der auch einseitig und verzerrt sein kann, begegnet mir in Vorgespr\u00e4chen von Mediation, in Anbahnungsgespr\u00e4chen oder auch in Konfliktberatern. Erkl\u00e4rungsgespr\u00e4chen, ein Erkl\u00e4rungsmuster, das ich heute zum Thema machen will. Das Erkl\u00e4rungsmuster Mann. Der Mann als Problem, nicht einfach die F\u00fchrungskraft oder der alte wei\u00dfe Mann, der gef\u00fchlsreduzierte Ingenieur oder der beratungsresistente Lehrer oder der besserwisserische Jurist oder der Phlegmatiker oder, oder, oder, sondern der Mann als solches, als Erkl\u00e4rung f\u00fcr die Konflikt- und Problemsituation. Und nat\u00fcrlich ist damit ein Image benannt, nicht unbedingt der konkrete individuelle Konfliktgegner, der auch Mann ist. Nein, das Besondere scheint mir, dass dieser Mann als Problem beschrieben wird und nicht nur als Ausnahmeerscheinung gerahmt ist in der Beschreibung von problematischen Situationen am Arbeitsplatz, sondern das ist halt der Normalfall, der ist halt so.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_2\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"82.81\" data-end-seconds=\"127.34\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[1:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Verschiebt sich meines Erachtens etwas und es kommt kein positives Bild mehr von M\u00e4nnern zum Ausdruck. Es wird kaum noch kommuniziert, jedenfalls nicht in Konfliktlagen. So wie das meiner Beobachtung nach auch in anderen gesellschaftlichen Kontexten der Fall ist, in Kultur, Kunst, Politik, Wirtschaft, wird der Mann zunehmend als Problem beschrieben und bearbeitet, der f\u00fcr Verbrennerautos, einsteht, der seine Mitarbeiter anherrscht, der in Konflikten nicht gut kommunizieren kann, was halt typisch m\u00e4nnlich ist, etc. Im Arbeitsleben, also wo ich meinen bevorzugten Arbeitsbereich finde als Mediator und Konfliktberater.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_3\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"128.12\" data-end-seconds=\"172.56\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[2:08]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wird nicht einfach diese Ungerechtigkeit benannt, dass die Gesellschaft als gro\u00dfteils M\u00e4nner gepr\u00e4gt ist und Frauen zu wenig sichtbar waren oder auch noch sind, was also eine ungerechte Verteilung ist. Nein, es wird eher markiert, dass der Mann, so was er tut, per se falsch und schlecht ist oder verwerflich oder zumindest dumm. Und das scheint mir ein besonderer Schiff zu sein. Und um diesem Ph\u00e4nomen auf die Spur zu kommen oder zu schauen, was da \u00fcberhaupt dran ist, habe ich mir heute eine Autorin eingeladen, die ein interessantes Buch ver\u00f6ffentlicht hat. Vor kurzem Not am Mann, die Erfindung toxischer M\u00e4nnlichkeit von Eva Ladibo. Hallo und herzlich willkommen, Frau Ladibo.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_4\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"173.13\" data-end-seconds=\"189.86\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[2:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, also erstmal hallo, vielen Dank f\u00fcr die Einladung. Ich freue mich sehr, dass ich dar\u00fcber sprechen kann, denn ja, das Thema ist wirklich sehr virulent und seit das Buch erschienen ist, bekomme ich es auch sozusagen von allen Seiten, also von links und von rechts, politisch und sitze eigentlich so zwischen allen St\u00fchlen,<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118287\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[3:12]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Trumps M\u00e4nner und Protestwahl<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_5\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"189.96\" data-end-seconds=\"239.68\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[3:09]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">was ja manchmal ein Zeichen daf\u00fcr ist, dass man einen Nerv getroffen hat. Die Idee, \u00fcber Not am Mann zu schreiben, also diese vermeintliche Krise der M\u00e4nnlichkeit oder dieses zunehmende Problembewusstsein, dass wir ein Problem mit M\u00e4nnern haben, das ist entstanden nach der Wiederwahl von Donald Trump. Ich bin Journalistin, schreibe haupts\u00e4chlich f\u00fcrs Feuilleton, der FAZ, und habe dort einen Artikel geschrieben, der damals wie viele andere versucht hat zu erkl\u00e4ren, warum es vor allem junge M\u00e4nner waren, die damals Trump zur Wiederwahl verholfen haben. Es waren auch junge M\u00e4nner, die drei Monate sp\u00e4ter bei der Bundestagswahl der AfD \u00fcberdurchschnittlich viel ihrer Stimme gegeben haben. Und dann stellte sich die Frage, warum? Warum f\u00fchlen sich viele Menschen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_6\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"240.22\" data-end-seconds=\"307.45\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[4:00]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">M\u00e4nner, vor allem eben auch junge M\u00e4nner, was noch ein viel gr\u00f6\u00dferes Problem ist als der w\u00fctende alte Mann, den Sie ja schon angesprochen haben. Aber vor allem, warum f\u00fchlen sich viele junge M\u00e4nner so entfremdet vom Mainstream, dass sie sich diesen Protestparteien zuwenden? Und es war f\u00fcr viele auch \u00fcberraschend gewesen, dass die jungen M\u00e4nner zwischen 18 und 25 bis 30 Jahre, dass die diese Wahl getroffen haben und auch einen Zuwachs darstellt. Der gr\u00f6\u00dfte Zuwachs in der W\u00e4hlerwanderung es gab. Ja, keine andere W\u00e4hlergruppe hat die AfD zu so einem gro\u00dfen Prozentsatz gew\u00e4hlt wie junge M\u00e4nner zwischen 18 und 29. Bei denen waren es 27 Prozent. Und vorher dachten wir eben immer, es sind die alten M\u00e4nner, aber die \u00fcber 60-J\u00e4hrigen haben rechtsau\u00dfen nur zu, also nur in Anf\u00fchrungszeichen, 17 Prozent gew\u00e4hlt. Also da ist der Unterschied schon deutlich. Damit haben wir sozusagen auch schon zwei Sto\u00dfrichtungen der Problematik. Einmal die M\u00e4nner im Sinne von alten wei\u00dfen M\u00e4nnern, also denen man halt die Sichtbarkeit vorgeworfen hat, den pr\u00e4genden Einfluss auf die Gesellschaft, die also das Wirtschaftsleben dominieren, Politik ohnehin etc. etc.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_7\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"308.05\" data-end-seconds=\"342.91\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[5:08]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und dann aber auch die jungen M\u00e4nner bzw. die gerade erst gewordenen M\u00e4nner und damit im Grunde genommen Jungen, die sie noch vor wenigen Jahren waren. Und das ist auch mittlerweile ein Thema, das in Wissenschaft und auch in den Folietons aufkommt. Die Vernachl\u00e4ssigung von Jungen und jungen M\u00e4nnern. Haben Sie einen Zusammenhang zwischen beiden feststellen k\u00f6nnen, den es da zu beachten gilt? Ich bin sozusagen von der Fragestellung ausgegangen, warum, also woher kommt diese wachsende.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_8\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"343.55\" data-end-seconds=\"402.7\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[5:43]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wut von jungen wie alten M\u00e4nnern und habe mich sozusagen geweigert, dem doch sehr verbreiteten Erkl\u00e4rungsmuster zu folgen, dass damals zum Beispiel Hillary Clinton bei der ersten Trump-Wahl angeboten hat, dass sie gesagt hat, das sind Basket of Deplorables, denen kann man auch nicht mehr helfen. Ich wollte nicht diese vermeintlichen problematischen M\u00e4nner abstempeln als Vollidioten, die frauenfeindlich sind, ausl\u00e4nderfeindlich sind, die unachtsam sind, die im Zweifel umweltlich, also die, die&#8230; Tranz Schulz sind. Die sozusagen selbst an ihrem eigenen, ja, an ihrer, die sind, die haben sich verrannt und sind jetzt da gelandet und da kann man auch nichts mehr dran machen, es liegt an ihrer Dummheit. Und es w\u00fcrde sich rauswachsen, die Problematik, also wenn wir nur \u00fcber die alten wei\u00dfen M\u00e4nner reden w\u00fcrden, w\u00fcrde die Sache rauswachsen und damit das Problem. W\u00fcrde sich demoskopisch sozusagen erledigen, das war ja mal eine Zeit, die Hoffnung, der alte wei\u00dfe w\u00fctende Mann. Nun, dass wir es mit den Jungen zu tun haben, glaube ich.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_9\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"403.58\" data-end-seconds=\"451.05\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[6:43]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Lohnt es sich nicht nur, sondern wir sind gezwungen, genau hinzugucken und nach Gr\u00fcnden zu suchen f\u00fcr diese Wut, die \u00fcber diese einfachen Erkl\u00e4rungsmuster, \u00fcber toxische M\u00e4nnlichkeit hinausgehen. Und wenn man genau hinguckt, was, glaube ich, immer die Herausforderung ist, also ich glaube, in jedem gesellschaftlichen Konflikt, in jedem pers\u00f6nlichen Konflikt, wenn man versucht, sich in die andere Seite hineinzuversetzen und das einigerma\u00dfen gelingt, dann sieht man eigentlich immer Gr\u00fcnde, die erkl\u00e4ren, warum die andere Seite so w\u00fctend ist. Bevor wir uns mit den Gr\u00fcnden zuwenden, das wird schon herausfordernd genug, glaube ich, sein. Ich w\u00fcrde nochmal kurz das, was ich so angedeutet habe, sch\u00e4rfen wollen und fragen, ob Sie das aus Ihrer Perspektive mit den Bereichen, die Sie angeguckt<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118288\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[7:33]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Schubladen statt Charakter<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_10\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"451.05\" data-end-seconds=\"487.65\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[7:31]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">haben, auch so feststellen konnten oder nachvollziehen konnten. Dieser Wandel oder dieser Shift von, und das erlebe ich sozusagen, wenn ich mit Menschen im Arbeitsleben h\u00e4ufig anl\u00e4sslich von Konflikten h\u00e4ufig spreche und sie auch in vertrauten Einzelgespr\u00e4chen habe, dass so eine \u00c4nderung ist von, der ist halt ein Mann. Der Mann als solches ist das Erkl\u00e4rungsmuster. Es ist nicht mehr der Charakter in der Form oder die Profession, die er gelernt hat, wo man dann sagt, naja, das ist halt irgendwie ein schwieriger, ist halt ein Ingenieur oder so, oder ist halt ein Lehrer oder ein Jurist. Die sind halt schwierig zug\u00e4nglich so. Das ist nicht mehr nur eine Frage von\u2026.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_11\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"488.08\" data-end-seconds=\"505.45\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[8:08]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Es ist doch ungerecht, dass die F\u00fchrungspositionen alles M\u00e4nner sind, was so eine ungleiche Verteilung mit sich bringt, aber wo man noch nicht drinnen gleichzeitig sagt, die machen das schlecht, sondern schlecht ist nur, dass das halt dort so viele sind. Diese Ver\u00e4nderung ist, das ist einfach schlecht, weil es ein Mann ist.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_12\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"506.39\" data-end-seconds=\"553.89\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[8:26]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Punkt sozusagen. Da wird nicht danach gefragt, was der tut, sondern das ist einfach per se eine Mangelbeschreibung. Wir sind in dieses Erkl\u00e4rungsmuster irgendwie hineingerutscht so in dieser \u00f6ffentlichen Debatte. Wenn man einen Menschen haupts\u00e4chlich wahrnimmt als Teil eines Geschlechts, dann steckt man ihn in eine Schublade und dieses Schubladendenken, von dem wollen wir ja eigentlich wegkommen. Und dieses Schubladendenken ist gerade gegen\u00fcber anderen Identit\u00e4ten sehr verrufen. Also wenn man jetzt einer Frau gegen\u00fcber sitzt, das ist das einfachste Beispiel, selbst wenn man einer Chefin gegen\u00fcber und h\u00e4tte das Gef\u00fchl, das Problem ist, dass sie weiblich zu emotional, zu.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_13\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"555.51\" data-end-seconds=\"598.86\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:15]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wenig faktisch denken, diese ganzen Klischees w\u00e4re, dann w\u00fcrde sehr vielen das schnell aufsto\u00dfen und w\u00fcrden sagen, das ist ein unzul\u00e4ssiges Klischee oder auch gegen\u00fcber Ausl\u00e4ndern oder gegen\u00fcber, wenn es ein Schwuler w\u00e4re. Also wir haben eigentlich gelernt, wegzukommen von diesen Schubladen und das ist sehr konstruktiv und eher \u00fcber Menschen nachzudenken als \u00fcber deren verschiedenen Identit\u00e4ten. Identit\u00e4ten oder nat\u00fcrlich jeder Mensch hat viele Identit\u00e4ten, aber und das ist ja gerade das Wichtige, also niemanden zu reduzieren auf eine Identit\u00e4t. Ja, und ich glaube, da m\u00fcssen wir&#8230; Da m\u00fcssen wir einfach von weg kommen, M\u00e4nnern gegen\u00fcber. Was sind die Folgeerscheinungen?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_14\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"600.12\" data-end-seconds=\"646.52\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[10:00]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Sie schreiben ja von den w\u00fctenden M\u00e4nnern, die uns politisch momentan buchst\u00e4blich um die Ohren fliegen. Und das, was wir als Ordnung, als Wertekorsett auch haben, zu sprengen drohen. Und das sowohl im politisch-gesellschaftlichen als auch, und das ist Anlass ja auch f\u00fcr mich, mit Ihnen hier das Gespr\u00e4ch dazu zu suchen. Ich auch im Arbeitsleben in der Aushandlung von wie arbeiten wir zusammen, wie machen wir das gemeinsam, was kann ich von dir erwarten und was nicht, auch dort in Erscheinung treten, dass diese Konfliktlinie, wo auf der einen Seite, die in Schubladen gesteckten M\u00e4nner sind und damit per se auch dort das Problem ist. Also ich habe lange \u00fcberlegt, was eigentlich das Problem daran ist.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_15\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"647.36\" data-end-seconds=\"676.74\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[10:47]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wenn man einfach glaubt, auf der richtigen Seite zu stehen. Es fehlt jedes gute Bild von M\u00e4nnern. Es gibt also kein positives Bild des Mannes mehr als F\u00fchrungsfigur oder als\u2026, Ich glaube, so ganz kauschal w\u00fcrde ich es nicht sehen. Ich glaube, die gibt es schon noch. Aber wir neigen eben dazu, sobald ein Mann gewisse Attribute hat oder gewisse Verhaltensweisen zeigt oder Tattoos an der falschen, also Tattoos oder Muskeln oder was auch.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118289\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[11:24]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Defensivreaktion auf Vorurteile<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_16\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"676.74\" data-end-seconds=\"711.85\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:16]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also man steckt die sehr leicht in eben diese gef\u00e4hrlichen Schubladen. Und wovor ich eben nur warne, und das ist irgendwo in dem Buch verborgen, ich finde jetzt gerade den Absatz nicht, das ist auch wissenschaftlich erwiesen, dass wenn eine Gruppe das Gef\u00fchl hat, ihre moralische Integrit\u00e4t wird in Frage gestellt. Und das ist wirklich soziologisch erwiesen, also das ist eine Princeton-Studie, meine ich, das k\u00f6nnen wir sonst hinterher vielleicht auch noch im Anhang posten oder so.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_17\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"713.28\" data-end-seconds=\"775.09\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und sobald M\u00e4nner grunds\u00e4tzlich das Gef\u00fchl haben, pauschal als Gruppe moralisch verurteilt zu werden, entsteht eine fast automatische Defensivreaktion. Und dann mauert die Gruppe. Oder dann mauert man als Teil dieser Gruppe, gerade weil man auch pers\u00f6nlich gar nicht schuldig ist, aber wenn man sich als Teil einer Gruppe abgestempelt f\u00fchlt, die grunds\u00e4tzlich in Frage gestellt wird, dann mauern M\u00e4nner. Das war somit ein Grund, warum, das hat schon angefangen in den 80ern, wurde das beobachtet, warum viele M\u00e4nner negativ reagiert haben auf Feminismus, obwohl sie eigentlich daf\u00fcr waren. Aber sobald es gegen diese Gruppe ging, sobald die Identit\u00e4t, die sie auch hatten, moralisch beschuldigt wurde, wie es bei MeToo vor allem der Fall war, dann hat man die sozusagen als Verb\u00fcndete verloren. Und das ist das Gef\u00e4hrliche. Das hei\u00dft, man verliert auch diejenigen, die in der Sache \u00fcberhaupt nicht der Schublade entsprechen. Ja.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_18\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"776.48\" data-end-seconds=\"837.1\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[12:56]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Aber die k\u00f6nnten sich doch einfach melden und sagen, also ich sehe das anders oder ich. Also solche gibt es ja auch. Also es gibt ja jetzt viele, die gerade in dem&#8230; Christian-Ulmen-Skandal, da viele M\u00e4nner, die auf die Stra\u00dfe gegangen sind und gegen toxische M\u00e4nnlichkeit demonstriert haben, die gibt es ja auch. Die versuchen, ihre liberale Gesinnung zu beweisen, indem sie dann selbst schlagen gegen die anderen Mitglieder ihrer eigenen Geschlechtsgruppe. Man will halt nicht auf der falschen Seite stehen, weil sie den Begriff ja auch jetzt nochmal aufgegriffen haben. Der Untertitel ist ja die Erfindung der toxischen M\u00e4nnlichkeit. Das klingt ja erstmal danach, dass es die nicht gibt, sondern erfunden worden ist oder auch in dem Kontext erfunden wurde, in dem er heute erscheint. Also was hat es damit auf sich? Der hat ja doch eine inflation\u00e4re, sagenumwobene Geschichte hinter sich. Der Begriff toxischer M\u00e4nnlichkeit. Genau. \u00dcbrigens in der Beschreibung von Konflikten, von Konfliktparteien, ist das der Begriff, auf den man warten kann und nicht lange muss. Der kommt. Der kommt zusammen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118290\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[13:58]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Ursprung der toxischen M\u00e4nnlichkeit<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_19\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"838.85\" data-end-seconds=\"919.84\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[13:58]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Man kann es auch nachvollziehen. Also der ist entstanden Ende der 70er, Anfang der 80er Jahre und das war eine Bewegung unter amerikanischen Veteranen, die damals versucht haben, sich selbst von Traumata zu befreien. Also es war ein medizinischer Begriff und der Erfinder dieses Begriffs hat auch gesagt, er will, dass es ein medizinischer Begriff ist, weil eine Diagnose kann geheilt werden. Es war eigentlich gemeint als hilfreicher Begriff, damit M\u00e4nner sich selbst dadurch helfen k\u00f6nnen, indem sie merken, sie haben diese Traumata und k\u00f6nnen daran arbeiten, diese Traumata loszuwerden. Das war eine myopathische Bewegung, die es damals gab. Der Begriff ist dann verloren gegangen und nach MeToo, also man kann es auch nachvollziehen im Internet, wenn man z\u00e4hlt, also diese toxische M\u00e4nnlichkeit gab es nicht, gab es nicht, gab es nicht, jahrzehntelang gab es es nicht nach den 80ern und 2016 ist er pl\u00f6tzlich \u00fcberall und wurde ja dann praktisch in jeder Sprache so aufgenommen, auch in Deutschland. Also dieser Untertitel, die Erfindung toxischer M\u00e4nnlichkeit, das ist auch bewusst provokant gew\u00e4hlt, weil ich der Meinung bin, dass die Mehrheitsgesellschaft, dass die Mitte oder der Mainstream oder wie man uns in Anf\u00fchrungszeichen auch immer nennen will, dass wir ein Monster geschaffen haben, vor dem wir wahnsinnig Angst hatten.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_20\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"920.5\" data-end-seconds=\"954.64\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[15:20]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also dass uns aus Versehen passiert ist, was Frankenstein passiert ist, dass wir das bestimmt nie beabsichtigt haben und es gut meinten. Und jetzt pl\u00f6tzlich dieser scheinbar unaufhaltbare Aufstieg toxischer, autorit\u00e4rer M\u00e4nner \u00fcberall in der westlichen Welt zu sehen ist, die an die Macht kommen. Und so meine Botschaft ist eben, verdammt, ich glaube, da hatten wir ziemlichen Anteil dran. In den bearbeiteten Konflikten ist das ja der Punkt, den wir h\u00e4ufig ansteuern als Berater, den eigenen Anteil zu sehen und dass das.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_21\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"955.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1016.38\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[15:55]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Zu Beginn kaum m\u00f6glich ist, weil man sich ja so auf der berechtigten Seite wehnt. Daher ist das, glaube ich, eine wichtige Fragestellung. Was ist unser Anteil daran, ohne uns da jetzt sozusagen alle Schuld wieder auf uns zu nehmen und eine \u00dcberverantwortlichkeit zu haben? Mir kam dieser Gedanke, also Sie sagen, das ist ein medizinischer Begriff gewesen, dass es eine Bedeutungsverschiebung gibt zwischen Veteranen, also M\u00e4nner, die im Krieg waren, deren M\u00e4nnlichkeit ist toxisch, sozusagen, sie sind vergiftet worden, das hei\u00dft, man ist sozusagen Opfer einer Vergiftung geworden und es gilt sich da wieder zu entgiften, w\u00e4hrend es heute schon, das ist einfach eine Beschreibung von M\u00e4nnlichkeit, also dass M\u00e4nnlichkeit als solches toxisch ist. Und man eigentlich wie schuldbefleckt in der Religion sozusagen eigentlich Bu\u00dfe tun muss. Dass man sozusagen eine Erbs\u00fcnde tr\u00e4gt. Eine Erbs\u00fcnde tr\u00e4gt, genau. Von der man sich dann nur befreien kann, wenn man dann eben so performativ auf Anti-Ulmen-Demonstrationen, also um es jetzt mal extrem zu sagen, das.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_22\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1017.26\" data-end-seconds=\"1044.35\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[16:57]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ist ja das Gef\u00fchl oder es gab auch viele, die dann eben aufgerufen haben, ich f\u00fchle mich als Mann schuldig und meine anderen Geschlechtsgenossen m\u00fcssen ebenfalls Bu\u00dfe tun und so. Und da scheint mir in der Beobachtung von M\u00e4nnlichkeit, in dieser Polarit\u00e4t, dass beide Seiten, und da nehme ich mich jetzt wirklich in die Beobachterposition, aber eben performativ auftreten. Die einen, die eben eine M\u00e4nnlichkeit w\u00e4hlen mit Verbrennerautos und gro\u00dfen<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118291\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[17:27]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Was macht einen Mann aus?<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_23\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1044.35\" data-end-seconds=\"1066.17\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[17:24]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Tattoos und was auch immer und die anderen, die halt Bu\u00dfe tun. Es wirfte ja aber darauf zur\u00fcck, dass man sozusagen als M\u00e4nnlichkeit, das ist ja schon immer auch ein Problem und eine Herausforderung f\u00fcr M\u00e4nner oder f\u00fcr Jungen, die M\u00e4nner werden wollen, war, n\u00e4mlich was ist denn M\u00e4nnlichkeit? Was muss ich denn tun, um erkannt zu werden? Ich wei\u00df nicht genau, woher, aber es gibt diesen Spruch, dass\u2026.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_24\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1066.77\" data-end-seconds=\"1149.08\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[17:46]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Man wird halt nicht als Mann geboren. Also der Kopf von Simone de Beauvoir. Also Simone de Beauvoir hat eben damals revolution\u00e4r gesagt, man wird nicht als Frau geboren, sondern man wird zu einer gemacht. Das war sozusagen die Frau als Soziales und Weiblichkeit als soziales Konstrukt. Und genau das Gleiche gilt f\u00fcr M\u00e4nner. Und Mann sein ist schwer. Mann sein ist nicht leicht und es ist einem nicht gegeben. Und bevor man ein echter Mann ist in der Gesellschaft, sieht man ja \u00fcberall, also wenn man das anthropologisch betrachtet, fast alle Gesellschaften haben Rituale, wie man zum Mann wird. Dieses Rite of Passage, diese verschiedenen Mutproben oder was es auch immer geben mag, aber dann die Frage, wenn man es dann zum Erwachsenen geschafft hat, was muss man tun, um ein echter Mann zu sein? Und da gibt es anthropologische Untersuchungen, die einfach verglichen haben, weltweit verglichen haben, was macht einen Menschen zum anerkannten Mann, was macht M\u00e4nner aus. Da ist eigentlich \u00fcberall, also egal ob in der westlichen Welt, ob im Urwald, ob in der Gro\u00dfstadt, auch durch alle Schichten durch, ein Mann ist ein Mann, wenn er mehr produziert, als er konsumiert, und wenn er andere mit diesem extra versorgen kann. Also eigentlich ist, und es klingt sehr reaktion\u00e4r.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_25\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1149.81\" data-end-seconds=\"1169.64\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[19:09]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und das ist \u00fcberhaupt nicht wertend gemeint. Es scheint so zu sein, dass trotz aller weiblichen Emanzipation und auch wenn wir in unserem Bekanntenkreis gucken, es gibt relativ wenige Paare, die sich davon befreit haben, von dieser Erwartung, dass der Mann der Versorger ist. Und viele, ja. Oder zumindest versorgen kann.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_26\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1170.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1198.73\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[19:30]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Er muss nicht der Alleinversorger sein, aber er muss ein versorgendes Element haben. Und man kann das verschiedenartig aufladen, aber es ist allgemein traditionell tats\u00e4chlich der Familienversorger, zumindest Hauptversorger. Und darauf achten nicht nur M\u00e4nner, sondern auch Frauen. Also bei der Partnerwahl, soweit ich die Studien verstehe, es geht nicht nach unten. Normalerweise ist es so, dass Frauen, Und viele, ja. Entweder sich horizontal<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118292\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[20:04]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Der Druck auf junge M\u00e4nner<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_27\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1198.73\" data-end-seconds=\"1250.18\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[19:58]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">paaren oder nach oben, also gleiche dann nach oben und M\u00e4nner gleich oder nach unten. Und das ist so mit ein Faktor, den ich versucht habe, dass man ihn mit bedenkt, dass die materiellen Umst\u00e4nde oder die M\u00f6glichkeiten gerade von jungen M\u00e4nnern, diese Erwartungen zu erf\u00fcllen, Es wird immer schwerer f\u00fcr junge M\u00e4nner. Nicht nur dadurch, dass es schwerer wird, als junger Mann selbst finanziell auf die Beine zu kommen und die Mittel zu haben, eine Familie zu gr\u00fcnden. Von zu Hause aus zu ziehen und dann sogar noch eine Familie zu gr\u00fcnden. Selbst das f\u00e4llt schon immer schwerer. Also in Amerika ist es tats\u00e4chlich so, dass diese Haushalte, bei denen biologisch erwachsene M\u00e4nner noch zu Hause leben, prozentual durch die Decke gegangen sind in den letzten Jahren.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_28\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1255.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1339.48\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[20:55]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">M\u00e4nner, ich glaube, bis 32, die noch bei ihren Eltern wohnen, das sind mehr als M\u00e4nner bis 32, die mit einem Partner zusammenwohnen. Also es gibt mehr Nesthocker als selbstst\u00e4ndiger Wachse in einer Partnerschaft. Also das ist sozusagen die absoluten Schwierigkeiten, mit denen viele M\u00e4nner zu k\u00e4mpfen haben. Und dann kommt aber noch die relative Schwierigkeit dazu, dass Frauen heutzutage viel weniger auf M\u00e4nner angewiesen sind. Und das ist ja gut, also das ist nicht negativ gemeint, aber einer der Folgen, die man einfach objektiv registrieren muss von weiblicher Emanzipation ist, dass zum Gl\u00fcck Frauen nicht mehr darauf angewiesen sind, sich mit einem Partner abzugeben, der nicht gut genug ist oder, den sie nicht wirklich m\u00f6gen, der sich schlecht behandelt. Sondern im Zweifel kann eine Frau auch alleine wohnen, sehr gut alleine leben, egal welchen Alters und braucht keinen Mann mehr. Und das f\u00fchrt f\u00fcr M\u00e4nner dazu, dass die Nachfrage nach romantischen Partnern deutlich gesunken ist. Hey du, jetzt ist ein guter Zeitpunkt, dein Smartphone zu nehmen und eine Sternebewertung zu hinterlassen. Vielleicht sogar auch einen kleinen Kommentar zu dieser Episode und wie es dir hier bei dem Podcast gef\u00e4llt. Und mit dem Podcast geht es jetzt weiter.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_29\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1342.47\" data-end-seconds=\"1389.2\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[22:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ich kann das Risiko nachvollziehen, was so deutlich wurde, dass diese Gratwanderung von, das ist eine Beschreibung einer Entwicklung, die als Tatsache gilt, das ist f\u00fcr M\u00e4nner statistisch gesehen schwerer und gleichzeitig ist es eine Konsequenz einer begr\u00fc\u00dfenswerten Entwicklung. Dass Frauen f\u00fcr sich selber sorgen k\u00f6nnen und dann auch auf dieser Basis Entscheidungen treffen k\u00f6nnen. Will ich und mit wem und wie lange und wieso \u00fcberhaupt? Also das kommt ja auch immer mehr auf, wieso \u00fcberhaupt? Aber diese erste Seite, diese Entwicklung, dass es schwieriger ist, aus, dem elterlichen Haushalt als Junge zu entwachsen und in eine erwachsene gereifte.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_30\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1389.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1399.29\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[23:09]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Leben zu gehen, erstmal auch eine eigene Wohnung oder einen Beruf zu ergreifen, der wiederum sozial attraktiv macht, weil man damit eben ern\u00e4hren und versorgen kann.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118293\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[23:21]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Verunsicherung im Arbeitsleben<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_31\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1399.29\" data-end-seconds=\"1478.65\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[23:19]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das ist erstmal ein Fakt und findet immer weniger statt. Ich w\u00fcrde auch, und das ist etwas, was ich schon auch jetzt als Deutungsbrille in Konfliktlagen, in Betrieben, in Firmen auch wahrnehme, dass das schon bemerkenswert ist. Also das ist auch sp\u00fcrbar, dass M\u00e4nner, junge M\u00e4nner vor allen Dingen, auch sich in einer anderen Arbeitsumwelt erleben, wo sie eben verunsichert sind, tats\u00e4chlich verunsichert, in Konfliktlagen auch und wie k\u00f6nnen sie darin agieren. Also ich habe da zunehmend weniger das Erleben, dass M\u00e4nner da t\u00f6lpelhaft rumpoltern und denken, sie k\u00f6nnen machen, was sie wollen, sondern eher eine \u00dcbervorsichtigkeit und Verleugnung von eigenen Impulsen. Das hat durchaus Vorteile auch. Also Impulskontrolle in Konflikten ist nicht das Schlechteste. Aber das eben auch bis hin zu der Frage, kann ich das so sagen. Und das sehen Sie unter jungen M\u00e4nnern oder sehen Sie das auch unter \u00c4lteren? Bei \u00c4lteren kommt das tats\u00e4chlich darauf an, in welchem Kontext sie agieren. Viele sind durchaus sich im Klaren, dass sie da jetzt nicht kulturell irgendwie da das gro\u00dfe Wort schwingen, aber sind in relativ abgesicherten Positionen, Tarifvertr\u00e4gen und dergleichen. Da ist das nicht so. Es sind auch alles, also ich meine, da sind jetzt keine&#8230;<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_32\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1479.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1530.38\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[24:39]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Nicht evaluierten Beobachtungen, sondern anekdotische Einsch\u00e4tzungen. Also dass diese Deutungslinie eine Bedeutung bekommen hat, also Mann, Frau, Jung, Alt und nicht mehr so stark auf Charaktereigenschaften gehen. Es wird kaum noch von Phlegmatikern gesprochen oder dass der halt mal schnell an die Decke geht. Also wird kaum auf Charaktereigenschaften zur\u00fcckgegriffen, auf charakterliche Modelle, sondern das wird h\u00e4ufig daran festgemacht. Und es ist manchmal auch in der zweiten Linie, also wir reden h\u00e4ufig \u00fcber, \u00fcber Rollen, \u00fcber F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte, \u00fcber Teammitglieder und dergleichen. Aber dahinter schwingt auch eben die Fragestellung, wie kann ich denn als F\u00fchrungskraft meine Macht aus\u00fcben, wenn mir das zugeschrieben wird, ich mache das nur, weil ich Mann bin. Daher ist das ein interessantes Deutungsmuster. Und ich habe den Eindruck, dass es tats\u00e4chlich immer bedeutsamer wird. Was Sie beobachten,<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118294\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[25:33]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>M\u00e4nner verlieren an Anerkennung<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_33\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1530.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1559.69\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[25:30]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">ist ja auch eine Folge gesellschaftlicher Entwicklung. Im Buch schreibe ich eben, M\u00e4nner haben dreifach verloren. Die haben an Wohlstand verloren, an F\u00fcrsprechern und an Ansehen. Wenn Sie merken, das Mannsein wird immer mehr gegen M\u00e4nner oder gegen den Konflikt, gegen den Antagonisten benutzt, dann ist es ja eine Folge davon. Und ich glaube, diese kulturelle Abwertung, ich will es immer.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_34\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1560.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1612.75\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[26:00]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Auch jetzt den Mann sozusagen pauschal darzustellen als Opfer oder, als absoluten Verlierer, das ist nat\u00fcrlich schwierig und wir generalisieren ja hier deutlich, aber ich glaube, diese kulturelle Abwertung ist un\u00fcbersehbar und ich glaube auch, dass sie sehr wichtig ist. Aber ist sie un\u00fcbersehbar? Also ich habe heute Morgen f\u00fcr dieses Gespr\u00e4ch mit jemandem gesprochen, Und er sagt so, ich habe das \u00fcberhaupt nicht auf dem Schirm. Das haben die doch verdient. Dieses 2000 Jahre kommt dann irgendwann, hat der Mann geherrscht, der soll sich jetzt mal \u00fcber die 20 Jahre nicht aufregen. Als wenn wir in einer transgenerationalen Sippenhaftung, uns wieder gut f\u00fchlen d\u00fcrften, obwohl wir doch die gleichen Problemlagen hatten, wenn es um Ausl\u00e4nder ging, wenn es um andere Abgrenzungsformen ging.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_35\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1613.87\" data-end-seconds=\"1688.7\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[26:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wo man auch nicht pauschal urteilen durfte. Also dieses Argument, das h\u00f6re ich sehr oft, zu sagen, warum sollen wir uns jetzt um M\u00e4nner k\u00fcmmern und vielleicht um m\u00e4nnliche Verlierer k\u00fcmmern, selbst um m\u00e4nnliche Verlierer, eben wenn wir zwei Millionen Jahre unterdr\u00fcckt wurden. Wenn es jetzt endlich die Frauen einmal auf den gr\u00fcnen Zweig kommen und die Entwicklung eindeutig positiv ist, warum sollen wir dann Zeit verschwenden und M\u00e4nner bemitleiden? Und darauf kann ich nur antworten, nicht weil wir jetzt M\u00e4nnerversteher werden wollen oder aus Liebe zum Mann, sondern aus Eigeninteressen. Wenn es weiter so l\u00e4uft, wie es gelaufen ist in den letzten zehn Jahren, dann endet das nicht gut f\u00fcr uns. Also ich glaube wirklich, die Gesellschaft ist, gerade wenn man sich in der Politik, anguckt, wohin das geht und diese m\u00e4nnliche Wut sich ausdr\u00fcckt, in immer mehr Unterst\u00fctzung f\u00fcr Protestparteien, f\u00fcr Rechtsau\u00dfenparteien, f\u00fcr autorit\u00e4re Parteien, dann m\u00fcssen wir das aufhalten. Wenn man f\u00fcr ausgleichende Gerechtigkeit ist, dann zahlen wir am Ende daf\u00fcr. Und das ist vielleicht nochmal der Punkt, um dorthin zu kommen, wo ich vorhin noch mal eine Abzweigung gemacht habe, das genau hingucken. Die Vorstellung, naja, wir.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_36\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1689.44\" data-end-seconds=\"1730.25\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:09]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">M\u00fcssen das wieder zur\u00fcckdrehen, damit die M\u00e4nner nicht in ihrer Wut die Gesellschaft sozusagen anz\u00fcnden, beinhaltet ja die Vorstellung, dass was die schlimmsten Auswirkungen, sage ich mal, m\u00e4nnlicher Irrwege sind, die wir in sozialen Medien pr\u00e4sentiert bekommen, die wir auch in der Politik jetzt den populistischen und, rechtsextremen Parteien sehen, dass das entweder die Spitze des Eisberges oder, ein passendes Beispiel f\u00fcr diejenigen sind, die diese Parteien w\u00e4hlen und da irgendwas abgewinnen k\u00f6nnen und damit sozusagen alle M\u00e4nner so sind. Was w\u00fcrden wir sehen, wenn wir genau hingucken und hinter die extremen Parteien.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_37\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1730.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1739.35\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:50]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Welche Auswirkungen toxischer M\u00e4nnlichkeit? Was gilt es wieder in den Blick zu bekommen? Dass es nicht den Eindruck hat, wir m\u00fcssen jetzt, weil die so w\u00fctend sind,<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118295\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[29:04]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Materielle Ursachen der Wut<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_38\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1739.35\" data-end-seconds=\"1771.86\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:59]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">kuschen und zur\u00fcckdrehen, sondern sie meinen wahrscheinlich wirklich was anderes. Ich fange sozusagen an mit Karl Marx, dass das Sein das Bewusstsein bestimmt und man dann eben gucken muss auf die materiellen Bedingungen, unter denen Jungs heute aufwachsen, unter denen junge M\u00e4nner heute zum Mann werden m\u00fcssen. Da zeigt sich eben, dass Einkommen gerade f\u00fcr bildungsfernere junge M\u00e4nner in typischen M\u00e4nnerjobs, die fr\u00fcher gewerkschaftlich abgesichert waren, die Einkommen sind.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_39\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1772.51\" data-end-seconds=\"1825.91\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[29:32]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Sehr deutlich gefallen, wenn man sagt, wo setzt man an, als alles prima war, als das Ende der Geschichte ausgerufen wurde in den 80er Jahren, als der Westen scheinbar gewonnen hatte und keine bessere Gesellschaftsform mehr denkbar war. Aber die Einkommen von damals k\u00f6nnen heute nicht mehr erreicht werden. Gleichzeitig sind die Lebenskosten deutlich gestiegen, vor allem die Wohnungskosten sind deutlich gestiegen. Also die materiellen Bedingungen, um ein Mann zu werden, sind wesentlich schwerer geworden. Das ist eigentlich ganz einfach und hat nichts mit toxischer M\u00e4nnlichkeit. Also deswegen sage ich dann auch die Erfindung toxischer M\u00e4nnlichkeit. Guckt dahin, das, was ihr jeden Tag seht, also diese prek\u00e4ren Jobs, die unsicheren Jobs, die Tatsache, dass die Schere zwischen Arm und Reich immer weiter auseinander geht, dass Jungs konfrontiert werden, eben nicht nur mit erfolgreichen Frauen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_40\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1827.63\" data-end-seconds=\"1881.9\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[30:27]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Mit denen sie sich nicht mehr fahren k\u00f6nnen, sondern vor allem mit den Superreichen, die ihnen jeden Tag auf Social Media pr\u00e4sentiert werden, wo sie nie mehr heranreichen k\u00f6nnen. Und der materielle Druck, da w\u00fcrde ich erstmal ansetzen. Es ist ein Verteilungskampf. Und wenn ich das richtig in Erinnerung habe, diese Elefantenkurve, der Graf, den der \u00d6konom Milanovic pr\u00e4sentiert hat, macht deutlich, dass der westliche Arbeiter der einzige weltweit ist, der sein Einkommen absolut nach unten gesetzt bekommen hat in den letzten Jahrzehnten. Alle anderen, egal auf welchem Niveau sie gestartet haben, sind gestiegen und haben ein besseres Leben. Ob das der chinesische Bauer war oder der amerikanische Million\u00e4r oder afrikanische. Und entscheidend ist immer die Richtung. Also selbst wenn man jetzt heutzutage sagt, absolut geht es Ihnen besser, Sie haben.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_41\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1882.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1906.96\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[31:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Die sind besser materiell ausgestattet, besser Maschinen und so weiter, gr\u00f6\u00dfere Fernseher. Aber es ist die Richtung und die ging so lange nach oben und jetzt geht sie eindeutig nach unten. Und da wird viel zu wenig hingeguckt. Also wir reden alle \u00fcber toxische M\u00e4nnlichkeit. Das ist das gro\u00dfe gesellschaftliche Problem, statt zu gucken, wer verliert. Also wer hat verloren. Wer sind die Verlierer? Ja. Und das ist nicht besonders schwer.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118296\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[31:52]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Toxisch im falschen Moment<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_42\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1907.26\" data-end-seconds=\"1971.16\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[31:47]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also was so mit mein Hauptargument ist, das Timing sehr negativ ist. Also das Ausgerechnen in dem Moment, wo M\u00e4nner, viele M\u00e4nner wirklich straucheln und unter der Globalisierung und unter der Automatisierung und sich abstrampeln. Das Leben ist schwerer geworden. Gleichzeitig ist in der westlichen Welt, durch alle Altersklassen hindurch, sind M\u00e4nner mehr bereit, Care-Arbeit zu \u00fcbernehmen. Das Gender-Pay-Gap wird immer kleiner. M\u00e4nner helfen zu Hause weiter. Die Einstellung gegen\u00fcber Emanzipation wird immer liberaler. Also das passiert. Also die werden sozusagen progressiver. Das Leben wird schwerer. Und ausgerechnet in diesem Moment werden M\u00e4nner als toxisch verurteilt. Also diese Kombination und dieses Timing, wo man sagen muss, der westliche Mann, ich w\u00e4re die Letzte, die sagen w\u00fcrde, der ist perfekt, aber wenn man vergleicht, Vor 10, vor 20, vor 30, erst recht vor 50 oder 100 Jahren waren die M\u00e4nner wesentlich toxischer als heute. Was wird ihnen heute vorgeworfen?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_43\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1972.09\" data-end-seconds=\"1984.14\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[32:52]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und die Ver\u00e4nderungen im Tun und in der Gestaltung von Beziehungen in der Familie, sind nicht nur eine Konsequenz aus dem Vorwurf, ihr seid toxisch.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_44\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1985.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.78\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[33:05]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Nein. Sondern ist zum Beispiel eben, weil auch nicht mehr so gewirtschaftet werden will von einem ganz Gro\u00dfteil der jungen M\u00e4nnern, wie die das bei den Eltern erlebt haben, beim Vater und Stiefvater, rauszukommen aus dieser Alleinversorgerolle und Alleinverantwortung und sich totarbeiten. Viele M\u00e4nner sind V\u00e4ter und die wollen das Beste f\u00fcr ihre T\u00f6chter, wollen das Beste f\u00fcr ihre Frauen und profitieren sehr davon, dass es den Frauen in ihrem Leben besser geht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_45\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2015.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2060.36\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[33:35]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das finde ich einen interessanten Punkt. Der wirkt mir gerade klar, weil Sie das sagen, dass viele V\u00e4ter nat\u00fcrlich T\u00f6chter haben. Und auch der Kollege, mit dem ich heute gesprochen habe, der sagt, ich habe drei T\u00f6chter. Ich habe \u00fcberhaupt keinen Blick f\u00fcr Jungen. Guck da gar nicht hin. Ich will, dass es den T\u00f6chtern gut geht. Und klar f\u00f6rdert er das, sieht die Ungerechtigkeit auch, die lange Zeit Frauen da begegnet ist. Und ob das heute noch in der Schule so ist mit M\u00e4dchen sein und Jungsein, da gibt es gute Studien dazu. Und dass es schon besser ist, ein M\u00e4dchen zu sein heute in der Schule und in Jungen und auch im Studium dergleichen. Aber dass man als Vater von T\u00f6chtern eigentlich interessiert sein m\u00fcsste, eine gute M\u00e4nnerwelt zu produzieren, in aller Regel zumindest. Ja, weil die wollen ja auch gute Partner haben, die M\u00e4dchen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_46\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2081.73\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[34:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das ger\u00e4t aus dem Blick und es sind so ganz einfache S\u00e4tze, dass man sagt, die Geschlechter steigen und fallen gemeinsam. Also wir sind keine Konfliktparteien, wir sind keine verschiedenen Teams, wo man entweder dem einen Aufmerksamkeit schenkt und dadurch verliert dann der andere. Das ist kein Kuss im Spiel.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118297\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[34:41]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Die Allianz von Mann und Frau<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_47\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2102.25\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[34:42]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Nein, sondern es geht nicht alleine. Scott Galloway sagt, dass eigentlich die gr\u00f6\u00dfte Allianz der Menschheitsgeschichte ist, die Allianz von Mann und Frau. Und die haben wir uns kaputt machen lassen durch die letzten Jahre und vor allem durch Social Media. Also dass Frauen M\u00e4nner als Gefahr und potenzielle Vergewaltiger sehen. Und T\u00e4ter.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_48\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2102.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2148.52\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[35:02]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und T\u00e4ter im Ganzen und umgedreht eben auch, dass M\u00e4nner Frauen verachtend sehen und als Gefahr ihrer M\u00e4nnlichkeit, was die Ausw\u00fcchse halt der Manusfair sind. Und ich glaube, das ist so gef\u00e4hrlich. Das, was uns gerade passiert, indem wir uns auseinander dividieren lassen, als hier ist es Lager der Frauen, hier ist das Lager der M\u00e4nner. Wir lassen uns, obwohl wir im Grunde, wenn man es n\u00fcchtern betrachtet, verfolgen wir dieselben Interessen oder zumindest dieselben Interessen in den jeweiligen Gesellschaftsschichten, wenn man jetzt in Klassen denken will. Aber die sind im Zweifel viel wichtiger als diese Geschlechteridentit\u00e4t und wir lassen uns auseinander dividieren und dadurch scheint wirklich zu werden<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118298\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[35:50]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Ungleiche Chancen bei Bildung<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_49\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2148.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2160.65\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[35:48]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">dieses Teiler und Herrscher. Das w\u00fcrde auch erkl\u00e4ren, dass diese, wenn wir diese Brille aufsetzen Mann-Frau und erlebten halt, okay, da sind halt mehr M\u00e4nner in der Gesellschaft in F\u00fchrungsrollen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_50\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2161.09\" data-end-seconds=\"2192.55\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[36:01]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und pr\u00e4gen die Gesellschaft und leiten das, dass das dazu f\u00fchrt, dass man dann sagt, naja, wenn jetzt mal ein paar Jahre das andersrum ist, das Verh\u00e4ltnis, dann ist es gut, dann ist es doch ein gerechter Ausgleich. Und das verkennt eigentlich, dass die ungleiche Verteilung das Ungerechte war und nicht, dass also mehr M\u00e4nner da etwas getan haben oder pr\u00e4gend waren, sondern die Verteilung ist ungerecht, gegen die ungerechte Verteilung muss man vorgehen, sodass dann eigentlich logisch w\u00e4re, wenn jetzt Jungen zur\u00fcckfallen in der Bildung.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_51\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2193.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2226.52\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[36:33]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">In der Notenverteilung. Das tun sie ja dramatisch. Ja, an Hochschulen, Zugang an Hochschulen, an Abschl\u00fcssen, dass Jungen&#8230; Und junge M\u00e4nner in den letzten 30 Jahren einfach stehen geblieben sind. Man muss ja fast sagen, sie sind stehen geblieben, auch wenn das so einen Ausdruck hat, als wenn die daran absichtlich das gemacht haben, dass das eigentlich auch zu einem Aufschrei an Ungerechtigkeit kommen m\u00fcsste. Also ich hoffe so sehr, dass mein Versuch diesen toten Winkel auszuleuchten, also das, was wir lange aus dem Blick verloren haben, gerade, also.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_52\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2227.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2261.68\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"37:07.320 - 37:41.680\">[37:07]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:07.320 - 37:07.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2227.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2227.51\" data-confidence=\"1\">Wer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:07.510 - 37:07.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2227.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2227.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:07.700 - 37:08.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2227.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2228.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:08.020 - 37:08.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2228.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2228.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:08.580 - 37:08.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2228.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2228.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:08.770 - 37:09.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2228.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2229.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> w\u00fcrde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:09.030 - 37:09.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2229.03\" data-end-seconds=\"2229.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:09.780 - 37:10.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2229.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2230.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:10.070 - 37:10.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2230.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2230.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:10.420 - 37:11.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2230.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2231.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> liberale<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:11.140 - 37:11.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2231.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2231.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Demokratie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:11.850 - 37:12.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2231.85\" data-end-seconds=\"2232.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:12.030 - 37:12.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2232.03\" data-end-seconds=\"2232.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:12.280 - 37:12.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2232.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2232.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:12.660 - 37:13.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2232.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2233.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> lange<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:13.030 - 37:13.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2233.03\" data-end-seconds=\"2233.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gek\u00fcmmert,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:13.800 - 37:14.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2233.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2234.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:14.070 - 37:14.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2234.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2234.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gl\u00fcck<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:14.530 - 37:14.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2234.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2234.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> um<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:15.070 - 37:16.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2235.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2236.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Minderheiten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:16.270 - 37:16.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2236.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2236.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:16.560 - 37:16.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2236.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2236.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> um<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:16.830 - 37:17.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2236.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2237.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frauen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:17.420 - 37:17.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2237.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2237.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:17.680 - 37:17.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2237.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2237.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:17.860 - 37:18.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2237.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2238.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> lange<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:18.600 - 37:19.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2238.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2239.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> benachteiligt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_1_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:19.520 - 37:19.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2239.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2239.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wurden.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:19.930 - 37:20.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2239.93\" data-end-seconds=\"2240.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:20.230 - 37:20.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2240.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2240.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:20.400 - 37:20.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2240.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2240.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hoffe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:20.850 - 37:21.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2240.85\" data-end-seconds=\"2241.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:21.330 - 37:21.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2241.33\" data-end-seconds=\"2241.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> indem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:21.710 - 37:21.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2241.71\" data-end-seconds=\"2241.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:21.870 - 37:22.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2241.87\" data-end-seconds=\"2242.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:22.380 - 37:22.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2242.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2242.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> passt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:22.790 - 37:23.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2242.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2243.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:23.580 - 37:23.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2243.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2243.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:23.690 - 37:23.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2243.69\" data-end-seconds=\"2243.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:23.860 - 37:23.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2243.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2243.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:23.970 - 37:24.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2243.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2244.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_2_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:24.190 - 37:24.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2244.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2244.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcbersehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:24.680 - 37:24.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2244.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2244.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:24.790 - 37:24.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2244.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2244.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:24.920 - 37:25.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2244.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2245.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:25.040 - 37:25.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2245.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2245.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:25.230 - 37:25.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2245.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2245.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ganz<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:25.550 - 37:26.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2245.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2246.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wichtiges,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:26.730 - 37:27.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2246.73\" data-end-seconds=\"2247\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:27.000 - 37:27.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2247\" data-end-seconds=\"2247.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:27.240 - 37:27.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2247.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2247.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Debatte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:27.650 - 37:27.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2247.65\" data-end-seconds=\"2247.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:27.840 - 37:27.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2247.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2247.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:27.910 - 37:27.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2247.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2247.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:27.980 - 37:28.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2247.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2248.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bisschen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:28.320 - 37:29.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2248.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2249.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aufgebrochen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_3_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:29.160 - 37:29.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2249.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2249.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:30.020 - 37:30.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2250.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2250.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:30.260 - 37:30.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2250.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2250.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:30.480 - 37:30.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2250.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2250.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:30.630 - 37:30.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2250.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2250.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:30.900 - 37:31.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2250.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2251.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:31.290 - 37:31.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2251.29\" data-end-seconds=\"2251.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:32.020 - 37:32.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2252.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2252.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:32.190 - 37:32.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2252.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2252.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Profiteure<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:32.980 - 37:33.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2252.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2253.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:33.190 - 37:33.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2253.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2253.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:33.550 - 37:33.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2253.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2253.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:33.840 - 37:33.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2253.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2253.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:33.970 - 37:34.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2253.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2254.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:34.080 - 37:34.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2254.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2254.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> genau<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_4_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:34.460 - 37:35.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2254.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hingucken,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:35.110 - 37:35.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2255.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:35.360 - 37:35.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2255.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:35.620 - 37:35.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2255.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:35.790 - 37:35.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2255.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:35.910 - 37:36.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2255.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2256.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Populisten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:36.580 - 37:36.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2256.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2256.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:36.830 - 37:37.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2256.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2257.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:37.060 - 37:37.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2257.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2257.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:37.220 - 37:37.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2257.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2257.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:37.370 - 37:38.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2257.37\" data-end-seconds=\"2258.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Autorit\u00e4ren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:38.270 - 37:38.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2258.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2258.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:38.980 - 37:39.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2258.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2259.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sondern<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:39.690 - 37:40.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2259.69\" data-end-seconds=\"2260.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:40.040 - 37:40.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2260.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2260.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:40.560 - 37:40.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2260.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2260.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:40.820 - 37:41.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2260.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2261.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> liberale<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_52_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:41.300 - 37:41.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2261.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2261.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mitte.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8118299\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[37:41]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Hoffnung auf neue Debatte<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_53\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2262.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2300.04\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"37:42.270 - 38:20.040\">[37:42]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:42.270 - 37:42.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2262.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2262.41\" data-confidence=\"1\">Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:42.410 - 37:42.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2262.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2262.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:42.530 - 37:42.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2262.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2262.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:42.650 - 37:42.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2262.65\" data-end-seconds=\"2262.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:42.770 - 37:42.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2262.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2262.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wieder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:42.990 - 37:43.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2262.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2263.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zur\u00fcckgewinnen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:44.010 - 37:44.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2264.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2264.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frau<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:44.340 - 37:44.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2264.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2264.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Latibu,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:44.960 - 37:45.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2264.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2265.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:45.150 - 37:45.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2265.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2265.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Abschluss<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:45.510 - 37:45.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2265.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2265.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielleicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:46.100 - 37:46.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2266.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2266.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:46.390 - 37:47.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2266.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2267.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frage<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:47.640 - 37:47.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2267.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2267.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:47.740 - 37:47.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2267.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2267.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:47.890 - 37:48.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2267.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2268.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Reaktionen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:48.600 - 37:48.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2268.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2268.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:48.840 - 37:49.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2268.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2269\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ihren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:49.000 - 37:49.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2269\" data-end-seconds=\"2269.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Buch.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:49.160 - 37:49.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2269.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2269.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:49.440 - 37:49.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2269.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2269.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:49.570 - 37:49.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2269.57\" data-end-seconds=\"2269.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> denn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:49.980 - 37:50.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2269.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2270.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anzeichen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:51.040 - 37:51.310, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2271.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2271.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:51.310 - 37:52.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2271.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2272.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hoffnungsschimmer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:53.030 - 37:53.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2273.03\" data-end-seconds=\"2273.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:53.580 - 37:53.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2273.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2273.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:53.850 - 37:54.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2273.85\" data-end-seconds=\"2274.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Reaktion<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:54.520 - 37:54.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2274.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2274.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:54.690 - 37:54.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2274.69\" data-end-seconds=\"2274.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ihr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:54.890 - 37:55.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2274.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2275.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Buch,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:55.900 - 37:55.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2275.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2275.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wo<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:55.970 - 37:56.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2275.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2276.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:56.050 - 37:56.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2276.05\" data-end-seconds=\"2276.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:56.430 - 37:56.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2276.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2276.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:56.690 - 37:57.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2276.69\" data-end-seconds=\"2277.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> scheint<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:57.110 - 37:57.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2277.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2277.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:57.360 - 37:57.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2277.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2277.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:58.400 - 37:58.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2278.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2278.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:58.650 - 37:59.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2278.65\" data-end-seconds=\"2279.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tun?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:59.200 - 37:59.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2279.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2279.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:59.410 - 37:59.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2279.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2279.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:59.520 - 37:59.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2279.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2279.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:00.240 - 38:00.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2280.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2280.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> angedeutet,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:00.780 - 38:00.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2280.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2280.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:00.860 - 38:01.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2280.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2281.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:01.040 - 38:01.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2281.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2281.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verschiedene<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:02.000 - 38:02.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2282\" data-end-seconds=\"2282.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Forschungen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:02.540 - 38:02.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2282.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2282.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:02.760 - 38:03.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2282.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2283.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:03.700 - 38:04.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2283.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2284.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Situation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:04.240 - 38:04.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2284.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2284.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:04.420 - 38:04.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2284.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2284.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Jungen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:05.160 - 38:05.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2285.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2285.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:05.430 - 38:05.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2285.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2285.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:05.680 - 38:05.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2285.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2285.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:05.800 - 38:05.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2285.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2285.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:05.990 - 38:06.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2285.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2286.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:06.080 - 38:06.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2286.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2286.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Amerikaner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:06.860 - 38:07.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2286.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2287.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wesentlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:07.460 - 38:07.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2287.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2287.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weiter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:07.860 - 38:07.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2287.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2287.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:07.990 - 38:08.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2287.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2288.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:08.070 - 38:08.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2288.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2288.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:08.180 - 38:08.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2288.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2288.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Reaktion<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_5_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:08.830 - 38:09.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2288.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2289.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> drauf.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:09.330 - 38:09.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2289.33\" data-end-seconds=\"2289.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Richard<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:09.760 - 38:10.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2289.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2290.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Reeves<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:10.100 - 38:10.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2290.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2290.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:10.280 - 38:10.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2290.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2290.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:10.370 - 38:10.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2290.37\" data-end-seconds=\"2290.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bekannter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:11.260 - 38:11.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2291.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2291.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wissenschaftler,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:11.920 - 38:12.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2291.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2292.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:12.460 - 38:12.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2292.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2292.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:12.740 - 38:12.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2292.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2292.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> um<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:12.900 - 38:13.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2292.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2293.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Jungen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:13.230 - 38:13.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2293.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2293.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00fcmmert.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:13.550 - 38:13.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2293.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2293.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Scott<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:13.800 - 38:14.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2293.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2294.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Galloway<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:14.190 - 38:14.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2294.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2294.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:14.320 - 38:14.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2294.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2294.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:15.120 - 38:15.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2295.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2295.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> viel<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:15.920 - 38:16.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2295.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2296.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gesprochen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:16.500 - 38:16.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2296.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2296.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:16.630 - 38:17.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2296.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2297.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geschrieben.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:17.190 - 38:17.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2297.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2297.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> In<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:17.400 - 38:17.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2297.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2297.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Deutschland<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:17.860 - 38:18.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2297.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2298.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> scheint<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:18.060 - 38:18.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2298.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2298.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:18.140 - 38:18.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2298.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2298.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:18.270 - 38:18.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2298.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2298.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:18.430 - 38:18.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2298.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2298.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:18.530 - 38:18.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2298.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2298.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bisschen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:18.780 - 38:19.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2298.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2299.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zur\u00fcckhaltend<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:19.440 - 38:19.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2299.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2299.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_53_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:19.580 - 38:20.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2299.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2300.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sein.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_54\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2300.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2332.25\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"38:20.640 - 38:52.250\">[38:20]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:20.640 - 38:20.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2300.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2300.88\" data-confidence=\"1\">Also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:20.880 - 38:21.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2300.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2301.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:21.020 - 38:21.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2301.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2301.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> glaube,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:21.360 - 38:21.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2301.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2301.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:21.530 - 38:21.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2301.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2301.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:22.110 - 38:22.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2302.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2302.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:22.280 - 38:22.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2302.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2302.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jeden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:22.630 - 38:22.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2302.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2302.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Fall<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:22.890 - 38:23.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2302.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2303.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hoffnung.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:23.420 - 38:23.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2303.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2303.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:23.610 - 38:24.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2303.61\" data-end-seconds=\"2304.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sozusagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:24.440 - 38:24.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2304.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2304.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:24.650 - 38:24.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2304.65\" data-end-seconds=\"2304.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ihnen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:24.790 - 38:25.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2304.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2305.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hoffnung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:25.110 - 38:25.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2305.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2305.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> macht?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:25.760 - 38:26.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2305.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2306.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:26.060 - 38:26.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2306.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2306.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:26.260 - 38:26.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2306.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2306.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hatte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:26.500 - 38:26.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2306.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2306.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> damals,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:26.840 - 38:27.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2306.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2307.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:27.010 - 38:27.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2307.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2307.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:27.120 - 38:27.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2307.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2307.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:27.340 - 38:27.590, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2307.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2307.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:27.590 - 38:27.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2307.59\" data-end-seconds=\"2307.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:27.780 - 38:28.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2307.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2308.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcberhaupt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:28.200 - 38:28.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2308.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2308.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erstmal,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:28.520 - 38:28.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2308.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2308.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> damals<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:28.820 - 38:28.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2308.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2308.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:28.930 - 38:29.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2308.93\" data-end-seconds=\"2309.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:29.070 - 38:29.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2309.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2309.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hoffnung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:29.380 - 38:29.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2309.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2309.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemacht,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:30.150 - 38:30.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2310.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2310.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:30.320 - 38:30.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2310.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2310.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:30.490 - 38:31.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2310.49\" data-end-seconds=\"2311.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcberhaupt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:31.350 - 38:31.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2311.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2311.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gedruckt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:31.960 - 38:32.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2311.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2312.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wurde,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:32.260 - 38:32.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2312.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2312.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sozusagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:32.850 - 38:33.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2312.85\" data-end-seconds=\"2313.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:33.180 - 38:33.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2313.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2313.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:33.280 - 38:33.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2313.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2313.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:33.440 - 38:33.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2313.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2313.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Buch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:33.700 - 38:34.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2313.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2314.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geschrieben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:34.160 - 38:34.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2314.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2314.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:34.740 - 38:35.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2314.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2315.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> letzten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:35.270 - 38:35.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2315.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2315.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sommer.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:36.120 - 38:36.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2316.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2316.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:36.290 - 38:36.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2316.29\" data-end-seconds=\"2316.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:36.410 - 38:36.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2316.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2316.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:36.570 - 38:36.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2316.57\" data-end-seconds=\"2316.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:36.680 - 38:36.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2316.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2316.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beim<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:36.890 - 38:37.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2316.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2317.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Schreiben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:37.350 - 38:37.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2317.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2317.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemerkt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:37.740 - 38:37.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2317.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2317.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:37.920 - 38:38.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2317.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2318.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:38.100 - 38:38.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2318.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2318.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirklich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:38.670 - 38:38.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2318.67\" data-end-seconds=\"2318.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> alle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:38.970 - 38:39.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2318.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2319.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vor<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:39.170 - 38:39.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2319.17\" data-end-seconds=\"2319.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:39.320 - 38:39.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2319.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2319.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kopf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_5_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:39.670 - 38:40.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2319.67\" data-end-seconds=\"2320.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sto\u00dfe.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:40.570 - 38:40.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2320.57\" data-end-seconds=\"2320.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:40.760 - 38:40.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2320.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2320.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:40.910 - 38:41.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2320.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2321.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:41.020 - 38:41.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2321.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2321.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:41.260 - 38:41.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2321.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2321.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> lange,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:41.910 - 38:42.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2321.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2322.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:42.390 - 38:42.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2322.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2322.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Reklam<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:43.470 - 38:43.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2323.47\" data-end-seconds=\"2323.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:43.630 - 38:43.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2323.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2323.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:43.910 - 38:44.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2323.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2324.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:44.100 - 38:44.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2324.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2324.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:44.430 - 38:44.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2324.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2324.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:44.680 - 38:44.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2324.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2324.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> finde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:44.980 - 38:45.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2324.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2325.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_6_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:45.470 - 38:45.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2325.47\" data-end-seconds=\"2325.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> super,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:46.250 - 38:46.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2326.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2326.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:46.400 - 38:46.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2326.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2326.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:46.520 - 38:46.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2326.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2326.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:46.620 - 38:46.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2326.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2326.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemacht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:46.940 - 38:47.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2326.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2327.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:47.120 - 38:47.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2327.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2327.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:47.280 - 38:47.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2327.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2327.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:47.510 - 38:47.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2327.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2327.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> finde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:47.830 - 38:47.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2327.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2327.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:47.890 - 38:48.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2327.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2328.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:48.040 - 38:48.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2328.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2328.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:48.250 - 38:48.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2328.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2328.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:48.540 - 38:48.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2328.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2328.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mutig,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:48.970 - 38:49.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2328.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2329.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:49.120 - 38:49.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2329.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2329.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:49.220 - 38:49.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2329.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2329.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:49.290 - 38:49.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2329.29\" data-end-seconds=\"2329.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemacht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:49.550 - 38:49.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2329.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2329.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:50.090 - 38:50.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2330.09\" data-end-seconds=\"2330.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:50.590 - 38:50.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2330.59\" data-end-seconds=\"2330.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:50.720 - 38:50.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2330.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2330.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:50.860 - 38:50.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2330.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2330.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:50.960 - 38:51.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2330.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2331.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> l\u00e4nger<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:51.190 - 38:51.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2331.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2331.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nichts<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:51.370 - 38:51.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2331.37\" data-end-seconds=\"2331.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geh\u00f6rt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:51.620 - 38:51.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2331.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2331.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:51.700 - 38:51.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2331.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2331.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dachte,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:51.960 - 38:52.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2331.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2332.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oh<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_54_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:52.050 - 38:52.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2332.05\" data-end-seconds=\"2332.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gott.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_55\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2333\" data-end-seconds=\"2379.57\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"38:53.000 - 39:39.570\">[38:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_55_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:53.000 - 38:53.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2333\" data-end-seconds=\"2333.28\" data-confidence=\"1\">Die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:53.580 - 38:53.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2333.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2333.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:53.830 - 38:54.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2333.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2334.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sozusagen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:54.430 - 38:54.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2334.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2334.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:54.600 - 38:54.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2334.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2334.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:54.790 - 38:55.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2334.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2335.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bereit,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:55.360 - 38:55.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2335.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2335.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:56.350 - 38:56.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2336.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2336.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:56.460 - 38:57.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2336.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2337.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gefahr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:57.010 - 38:57.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2337.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2337.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:57.270 - 38:57.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2337.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2337.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:57.480 - 38:57.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2337.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2337.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:57.670 - 38:58.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2337.67\" data-end-seconds=\"2338.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gesehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:58.170 - 38:58.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2338.17\" data-end-seconds=\"2338.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> werde,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:58.720 - 38:59.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2338.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2339.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> selbst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:59.210 - 38:59.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2339.21\" data-end-seconds=\"2339.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"38:59.440 - 39:00.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2339.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2340.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Rechte,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:00.150 - 39:00.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2340.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2340.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> indem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:00.470 - 39:00.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2340.47\" data-end-seconds=\"2340.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:00.670 - 39:00.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2340.67\" data-end-seconds=\"2340.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_1_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:00.880 - 39:01.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2340.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2341.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00e4nner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:01.530 - 39:02.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2341.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2342.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> argumentiert,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:02.180 - 39:02.310, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2342.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2342.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:02.310 - 39:02.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2342.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2342.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:02.440 - 39:02.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2342.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2342.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:02.580 - 39:02.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2342.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2342.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> pl\u00f6tzlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:02.930 - 39:03.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2342.93\" data-end-seconds=\"2343\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:03.000 - 39:03.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2343\" data-end-seconds=\"2343.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:03.190 - 39:03.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2343.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2343.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> rechte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:03.440 - 39:03.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2343.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2343.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ecke<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:04.000 - 39:04.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2344\" data-end-seconds=\"2344.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gestellt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:04.710 - 39:04.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2344.71\" data-end-seconds=\"2344.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:04.910 - 39:05.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2344.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2345.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:05.100 - 39:05.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2345.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2345.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> indem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:05.380 - 39:05.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2345.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2345.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:05.790 - 39:06.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2345.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2346\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:06.000 - 39:06.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2346\" data-end-seconds=\"2346.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:06.170 - 39:06.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2346.17\" data-end-seconds=\"2346.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:06.420 - 39:06.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2346.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2346.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00e4nner,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:06.710 - 39:07.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2346.71\" data-end-seconds=\"2347.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sondern<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:07.030 - 39:07.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2347.03\" data-end-seconds=\"2347.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:07.440 - 39:08.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2347.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2348.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gegen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:08.370 - 39:09.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2348.37\" data-end-seconds=\"2349.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Identit\u00e4tspolitik<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:09.510 - 39:09.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2349.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2349.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:09.640 - 39:09.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2349.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2349.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:09.730 - 39:10.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2349.73\" data-end-seconds=\"2350.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weiter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:10.010 - 39:10.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2350.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2350.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> argumentiert,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:10.900 - 39:11.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2350.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2351.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:11.230 - 39:11.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2351.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2351.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> landet<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:11.650 - 39:11.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2351.65\" data-end-seconds=\"2351.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:11.820 - 39:12.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2351.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2352.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> rechts.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:12.120 - 39:12.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2352.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2352.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:12.330 - 39:12.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2352.33\" data-end-seconds=\"2352.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:12.990 - 39:13.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2352.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2353.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:13.180 - 39:13.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2353.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2353.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erstmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:13.480 - 39:13.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2353.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2353.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcberhaupt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:13.780 - 39:14.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2353.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2354.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dadurch,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:14.850 - 39:15.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2354.85\" data-end-seconds=\"2355.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:15.020 - 39:15.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2355.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2355.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:15.150 - 39:15.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2355.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2355.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erscheinen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:15.750 - 39:16.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2355.75\" data-end-seconds=\"2356.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> konnte,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:16.670 - 39:16.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2356.67\" data-end-seconds=\"2356.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:16.880 - 39:17.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2356.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2357.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Angst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:17.140 - 39:17.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2357.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2357.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wurde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:17.340 - 39:17.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2357.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2357.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> widerlegt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:17.920 - 39:18.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2357.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2358.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:18.050 - 39:18.310, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2358.05\" data-end-seconds=\"2358.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:18.830 - 39:19.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2358.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2359.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:19.100 - 39:19.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2359.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2359.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Reaktion<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:19.830 - 39:20.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2359.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2360.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:20.010 - 39:20.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2360.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2360.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schon,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:20.650 - 39:21.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2360.65\" data-end-seconds=\"2361.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:21.120 - 39:21.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2361.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2361.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:21.910 - 39:22.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2361.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2362.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:22.070 - 39:22.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2362.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2362.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00e4nnern,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:22.350 - 39:22.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2362.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2362.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:22.540 - 39:22.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2362.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2362.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:22.680 - 39:22.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2362.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2362.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:23.060 - 39:23.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2363.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2363.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:23.570 - 39:23.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2363.57\" data-end-seconds=\"2363.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> viele<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_7_15\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:23.920 - 39:24.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2363.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2364.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00e4nner,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:24.950 - 39:25.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2364.95\" data-end-seconds=\"2365.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:25.380 - 39:25.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2365.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2365.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:25.680 - 39:26.130, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2365.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2366.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geschrieben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:26.130 - 39:26.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2366.13\" data-end-seconds=\"2366.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:26.250 - 39:26.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2366.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2366.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:27.080 - 39:27.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2367.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2367.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:27.300 - 39:27.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2367.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2367.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:27.460 - 39:27.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2367.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2367.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gesagt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:27.720 - 39:27.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2367.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2367.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:27.840 - 39:28.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2367.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2368.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:28.020 - 39:28.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2368.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2368.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:28.180 - 39:28.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2368.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2368.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:28.300 - 39:28.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2368.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2368.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_8_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:28.420 - 39:28.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2368.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2368.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hand<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:28.670 - 39:29.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2368.67\" data-end-seconds=\"2369.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gehabt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:29.040 - 39:29.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2369.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2369.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:29.190 - 39:29.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2369.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2369.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hatten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:29.390 - 39:29.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2369.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2369.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:29.510 - 39:29.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2369.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2369.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gef\u00fchl,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:29.860 - 39:29.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2369.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2369.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oh,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:29.990 - 39:30.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2369.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2370.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jetzt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:30.220 - 39:30.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2370.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2370.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:30.410 - 39:30.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2370.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2370.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:30.530 - 39:30.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2370.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2370.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wieder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:30.790 - 39:31.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2370.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2371\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:31.000 - 39:31.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2371\" data-end-seconds=\"2371.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> neues,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:31.560 - 39:31.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2371.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2371.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:31.720 - 39:31.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2371.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2371.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:31.800 - 39:31.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2371.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2371.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:31.940 - 39:32.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2371.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2372.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> neues<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:32.700 - 39:34.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2372.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2374.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00e4nnerbashing-Werk.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:34.790 - 39:35.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2374.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2375.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:35.090 - 39:35.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2375.09\" data-end-seconds=\"2375.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:36.150 - 39:36.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2376.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2376.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> angefangen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:36.620 - 39:36.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2376.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2376.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:36.740 - 39:37.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2376.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2377.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> lesen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:37.050 - 39:37.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2377.05\" data-end-seconds=\"2377.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:37.420 - 39:37.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2377.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2377.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fchlen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:37.710 - 39:37.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2377.71\" data-end-seconds=\"2377.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:37.880 - 39:38.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2377.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2378.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geh\u00f6rt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:38.250 - 39:38.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2378.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2378.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:38.390 - 39:38.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2378.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2378.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fchlen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:38.630 - 39:38.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2378.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2378.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_55_11_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:38.810 - 39:39.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2378.81\" data-end-seconds=\"2379.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gesehen.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_56\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2380.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2433.14\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"39:40.430 - 40:33.140\">[39:40]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:40.430 - 39:40.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2380.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2380.84\" data-confidence=\"1\">Dringt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:40.840 - 39:41.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2380.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2381.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:41.300 - 39:41.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2381.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2381.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:42.050 - 39:42.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2382.05\" data-end-seconds=\"2382.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jetzt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:42.370 - 39:42.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2382.37\" data-end-seconds=\"2382.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:42.950 - 39:43.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2382.95\" data-end-seconds=\"2383.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Herbst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:43.290 - 39:43.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2383.29\" data-end-seconds=\"2383.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:43.460 - 39:43.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2383.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2383.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sogar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:43.690 - 39:43.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2383.69\" data-end-seconds=\"2383.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:43.860 - 39:44.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2383.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2384.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00e4nnerkonferenz<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:44.880 - 39:45.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2384.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2385.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> stattfinden,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:45.860 - 39:46.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2385.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2386.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> organisiert<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:46.710 - 39:46.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2386.71\" data-end-seconds=\"2386.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vom<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:46.920 - 39:48.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2386.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2388.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Familienministerium,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:48.250 - 39:48.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2388.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2388.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wo<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:48.910 - 39:49.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2388.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2389.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:49.080 - 39:50.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2389.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2390.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> europaweit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:50.440 - 39:51.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2390.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2391.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eingeladen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:51.180 - 39:51.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2391.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2391.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:51.550 - 39:51.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2391.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2391.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:52.230 - 39:52.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2392.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2392.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geguckt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:52.640 - 39:52.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2392.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2392.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:52.980 - 39:53.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2392.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2393.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:53.200 - 39:53.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2393.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2393.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:53.500 - 39:53.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2393.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2393.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:53.620 - 39:53.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2393.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2393.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:53.790 - 39:54.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2393.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2394.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diesem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:54.080 - 39:54.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2394.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2394.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thema<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:54.710 - 39:54.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2394.71\" data-end-seconds=\"2394.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:54.870 - 39:55.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2394.87\" data-end-seconds=\"2395.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> widmen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:55.360 - 39:55.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2395.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2395.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:55.560 - 39:55.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2395.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2395.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:56.130 - 39:56.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2396.13\" data-end-seconds=\"2396.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_2_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:56.250 - 39:56.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2396.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2396.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Populisten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:56.960 - 39:57.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2396.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2397.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:57.210 - 39:57.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2397.21\" data-end-seconds=\"2397.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:57.410 - 39:57.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2397.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2397.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:57.820 - 39:58.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2397.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2398.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:58.020 - 39:58.310, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2398.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2398.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> davon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:58.310 - 39:59.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2398.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2399.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> profitieren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:59.040 - 39:59.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2399.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2399.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:59.380 - 39:59.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2399.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2399.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:59.630 - 39:59.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2399.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2399.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weiter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"39:59.890 - 40:00.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2399.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2400.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auseinander<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:00.330 - 40:00.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2400.33\" data-end-seconds=\"2400.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dividieren.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:00.990 - 40:01.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2400.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2401.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> In<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:01.190 - 40:01.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2401.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2401.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:01.320 - 40:01.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2401.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2401.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hoffnung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:01.760 - 40:02.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2401.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2402.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> macht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:02.070 - 40:02.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2402.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2402.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:02.240 - 40:02.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2402.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2402.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:02.430 - 40:02.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2402.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2402.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:02.540 - 40:02.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2402.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2402.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gesehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:02.970 - 40:03.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2402.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2403.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:03.990 - 40:04.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2403.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2404.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frau<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:04.190 - 40:04.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2404.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2404.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Latibo,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:05.010 - 40:05.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2405.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2405.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:05.280 - 40:05.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2405.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2405.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:05.520 - 40:05.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2405.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2405.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:05.690 - 40:06.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2405.69\" data-end-seconds=\"2406.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:07.600 - 40:08.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2407.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2408.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gespr\u00e4ch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:08.200 - 40:08.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2408.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2408.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:08.320 - 40:08.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2408.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2408.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:08.500 - 40:09.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2408.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2409.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> komplexen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:09.110 - 40:09.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2409.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2409.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thema<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:09.950 - 40:10.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2409.95\" data-end-seconds=\"2410.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:10.110 - 40:10.310, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2410.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2410.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_5_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:10.880 - 40:11.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2410.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2411.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Einsichten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:11.550 - 40:11.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2411.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2411.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:11.720 - 40:12.130, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2411.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2412.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:13.230 - 40:13.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2413.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2413.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:13.350 - 40:13.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2413.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2413.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ihr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:13.470 - 40:14.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2413.47\" data-end-seconds=\"2414.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Engagement.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:14.340 - 40:14.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2414.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2414.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:14.780 - 40:15.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2414.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2415.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:15.310 - 40:15.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2415.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2415.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:15.410 - 40:15.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2415.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2415.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:15.570 - 40:15.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2415.57\" data-end-seconds=\"2415.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:15.710 - 40:15.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2415.71\" data-end-seconds=\"2415.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:15.840 - 40:16.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2415.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2416.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> total<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:16.190 - 40:16.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2416.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2416.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Spa\u00df<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:16.460 - 40:16.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2416.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2416.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemacht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:16.830 - 40:16.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2416.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2416.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:16.970 - 40:17.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2416.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2417.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:17.090 - 40:17.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2417.09\" data-end-seconds=\"2417.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> glaube,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:17.830 - 40:18.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2417.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2418.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:18.310 - 40:18.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2418.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2418.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:18.720 - 40:19.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2418.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2419.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> reden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:19.080 - 40:19.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2419.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2419.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_7_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:19.190 - 40:19.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2419.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2419.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weiter.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:20.170 - 40:20.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2420.17\" data-end-seconds=\"2420.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Okay,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:20.830 - 40:20.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2420.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2420.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:20.990 - 40:21.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2420.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2421.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> macht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:21.160 - 40:21.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2421.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2421.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:21.420 - 40:21.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2421.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2421.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielleicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:21.830 - 40:22.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2421.83\" data-end-seconds=\"2422.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> demn\u00e4chst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:22.230 - 40:22.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2422.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2422.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:22.360 - 40:22.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2422.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2422.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:22.500 - 40:22.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2422.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2422.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wieder,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:22.800 - 40:23.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2422.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2423.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:23.040 - 40:23.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2423.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2423.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:23.610 - 40:23.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2423.61\" data-end-seconds=\"2423.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:23.770 - 40:24.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2423.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2424.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> getan<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:24.110 - 40:24.310, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2424.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2424.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:24.310 - 40:24.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2424.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2424.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:24.480 - 40:25.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2424.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2425\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konferenz,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:25.000 - 40:25.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2425\" data-end-seconds=\"2425.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:25.100 - 40:25.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2425.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2425.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:25.240 - 40:25.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2425.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2425.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:25.340 - 40:25.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2425.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2425.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ganz<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:25.530 - 40:25.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2425.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2425.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gespannt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:25.890 - 40:26.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2425.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2426.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> drauf.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:26.070 - 40:26.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2426.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2426.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:26.180 - 40:26.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2426.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2426.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> werde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:26.350 - 40:26.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2426.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2426.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:26.450 - 40:26.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2426.45\" data-end-seconds=\"2426.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:26.580 - 40:26.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2426.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2426.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_9_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:26.680 - 40:26.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2426.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2426.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:26.810 - 40:27.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2426.81\" data-end-seconds=\"2427.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Shownotes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:27.390 - 40:27.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2427.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2427.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verlinken.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:27.930 - 40:28.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2427.93\" data-end-seconds=\"2428\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:28.000 - 40:28.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2428\" data-end-seconds=\"2428.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:28.150 - 40:28.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2428.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2428.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:28.210 - 40:28.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2428.21\" data-end-seconds=\"2428.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bestimmt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:28.560 - 40:28.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2428.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2428.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:29.250 - 40:30.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2429.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2430\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Informationen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:30.000 - 40:30.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2430\" data-end-seconds=\"2430.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:30.320 - 40:30.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2430.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2430.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geben,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:30.720 - 40:31.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2430.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2431.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:31.070 - 40:31.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2431.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2431.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:31.300 - 40:31.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2431.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2431.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Internet.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:32.070 - 40:32.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2432.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2432.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Prima,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:32.630 - 40:32.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2432.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2432.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_56_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:32.940 - 40:33.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2432.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2433.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_57\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2434.37\" data-end-seconds=\"2497.51\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"40:34.370 - 41:37.510\">[40:34]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:34.370 - 40:34.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2434.37\" data-end-seconds=\"2434.51\" data-confidence=\"1\">Die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:34.510 - 40:35.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2434.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2435.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Erfindung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:35.050 - 40:35.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2435.05\" data-end-seconds=\"2435.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:35.470 - 40:36.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2435.47\" data-end-seconds=\"2436\" data-confidence=\"1\"> toxischen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:36.000 - 40:37.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2436\" data-end-seconds=\"2437.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00e4nnlichkeit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:37.410 - 40:37.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2437.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2437.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:37.700 - 40:37.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2437.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2437.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Eva<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:37.970 - 40:38.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2437.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2438.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ladibo<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:39.230 - 40:39.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2439.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2439.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:39.350 - 40:39.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2439.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2439.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> heute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:39.580 - 40:40.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2439.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2440.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anlass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:40.060 - 40:40.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2440.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2440.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:40.280 - 40:40.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2440.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2440.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:41.150 - 40:42.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2441.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2442.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Episode.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:42.580 - 40:43.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2442.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2443\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Etwas<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:43.000 - 40:43.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2443\" data-end-seconds=\"2443.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ungew\u00f6hnlicher<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:43.940 - 40:44.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2443.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2444.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Art,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:44.260 - 40:44.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2444.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2444.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:44.450 - 40:44.590, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2444.45\" data-end-seconds=\"2444.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:44.590 - 40:44.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2444.59\" data-end-seconds=\"2444.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:44.860 - 40:44.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2444.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2444.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:45.510 - 40:46.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2445.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2446.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> fortgriffig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:46.630 - 40:47.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2446.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2447.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:47.020 - 40:47.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2447.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2447.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dieses<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:47.600 - 40:48.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2447.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2448.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thema,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:48.560 - 40:48.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2448.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2448.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:49.150 - 40:49.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2449.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2449.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:49.390 - 40:49.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2449.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2449.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:49.660 - 40:49.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2449.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2449.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:49.900 - 40:50.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2449.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2450.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:50.070 - 40:51.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2450.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2451.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konfliktbearbeitung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:51.440 - 40:51.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2451.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2451.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:51.550 - 40:51.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2451.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2451.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:51.700 - 40:51.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2451.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2451.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:51.810 - 40:52.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2451.81\" data-end-seconds=\"2452.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konfliktaufkommen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:52.970 - 40:53.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2452.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2453.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deutlicher<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:54.130 - 40:54.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2454.13\" data-end-seconds=\"2454.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zeigt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:54.660 - 40:54.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2454.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2454.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> immer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:54.910 - 40:55.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2454.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2455.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deutlicher<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:55.530 - 40:56.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2455.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2456.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zeigt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:56.430 - 40:56.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2456.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2456.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:56.640 - 40:56.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2456.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2456.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:56.860 - 40:57.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2456.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2457.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:57.060 - 40:57.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2457.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2457.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:57.390 - 40:57.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2457.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2457.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:57.580 - 40:57.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2457.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2457.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dieser<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:57.940 - 40:58.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2457.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2458.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sch\u00e4rfe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:58.850 - 40:59.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2458.85\" data-end-seconds=\"2459.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durchdrungen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_3_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"40:59.770 - 41:00.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2459.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2460.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:00.620 - 41:01.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2460.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2461.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:01.200 - 41:02.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2461.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2462.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> paradoxerweise<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:02.320 - 41:02.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2462.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2462.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:02.530 - 41:02.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2462.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2462.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:02.870 - 41:03.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2462.87\" data-end-seconds=\"2463.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:03.050 - 41:03.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2463.05\" data-end-seconds=\"2463.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:03.190 - 41:03.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2463.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2463.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> falsche<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:03.620 - 41:04.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2463.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2464.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> F\u00e4hrte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:04.040 - 41:04.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2464.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2464.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:04.260 - 41:04.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2464.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2464.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fchrt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:05.450 - 41:05.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2465.45\" data-end-seconds=\"2465.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:06.480 - 41:06.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2466.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2466.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:06.620 - 41:07.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2466.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2467.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beleuchten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:07.410 - 41:07.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2467.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2467.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:07.620 - 41:07.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2467.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2467.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:07.770 - 41:08.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2467.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2468.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erhellen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:08.420 - 41:08.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2468.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2468.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:08.750 - 41:08.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2468.75\" data-end-seconds=\"2468.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:08.970 - 41:09.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2468.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2469.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> blinden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:09.450 - 41:10.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2469.45\" data-end-seconds=\"2470.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Flecke<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:10.350 - 41:10.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2470.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2470.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:10.610 - 41:11.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2470.61\" data-end-seconds=\"2471.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> solches,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:11.170 - 41:11.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2471.17\" data-end-seconds=\"2471.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:11.380 - 41:11.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2471.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2471.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:11.540 - 41:11.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2471.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2471.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:11.700 - 41:11.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2471.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2471.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> neu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:11.930 - 41:12.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2471.93\" data-end-seconds=\"2472.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> entstehenden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:12.640 - 41:12.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2472.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2472.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:12.750 - 41:12.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2472.75\" data-end-seconds=\"2472.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:12.910 - 41:13.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2472.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2473.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Blick<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:13.150 - 41:13.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2473.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2473.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:13.300 - 41:13.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2473.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2473.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bekommen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:14.440 - 41:15.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2474.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2475.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:15.310 - 41:15.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2475.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2475.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thema<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:16.290 - 41:16.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2476.29\" data-end-seconds=\"2476.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unseres<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_6_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:16.680 - 41:17.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2476.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2477.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gespr\u00e4ches.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:17.760 - 41:17.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2477.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2477.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:17.860 - 41:18.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2477.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2478\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:18.000 - 41:18.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2478\" data-end-seconds=\"2478.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:18.100 - 41:18.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2478.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2478.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:18.210 - 41:18.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2478.21\" data-end-seconds=\"2478.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gefallen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:18.600 - 41:18.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2478.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2478.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:19.120 - 41:19.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2479.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2479.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:19.270 - 41:19.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2479.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2479.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:19.380 - 41:19.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2479.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2479.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:19.510 - 41:19.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2479.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2479.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:19.930 - 41:20.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2479.93\" data-end-seconds=\"2480.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:20.050 - 41:20.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2480.05\" data-end-seconds=\"2480.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> insgesamt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:20.510 - 41:21.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2480.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2481.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zusagt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:21.110 - 41:21.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2481.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2481.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:22.000 - 41:22.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2482\" data-end-seconds=\"2482.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nimm<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:22.210 - 41:22.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2482.21\" data-end-seconds=\"2482.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> doch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:22.340 - 41:22.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2482.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2482.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:22.510 - 41:23.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2482.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2483\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Smartphone<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:23.000 - 41:23.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2483\" data-end-seconds=\"2483.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jetzt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:23.240 - 41:23.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2483.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2483.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:23.320 - 41:23.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2483.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2483.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:23.450 - 41:23.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2483.45\" data-end-seconds=\"2483.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hand<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:23.850 - 41:24.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2483.85\" data-end-seconds=\"2484.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:24.590 - 41:25.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2484.59\" data-end-seconds=\"2485.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hinterlass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:25.150 - 41:25.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2485.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2485.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:25.470 - 41:26.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2485.47\" data-end-seconds=\"2486.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sternebewertung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:26.840 - 41:27.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2486.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2487.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:27.200 - 41:27.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2487.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2487.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_8_15\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:27.620 - 41:28.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2487.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2488.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kommentar.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:28.590 - 41:28.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2488.59\" data-end-seconds=\"2488.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:28.890 - 41:29.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2488.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2489.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:29.710 - 41:29.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2489.71\" data-end-seconds=\"2489.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:29.940 - 41:30.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2489.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2490.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:30.450 - 41:30.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2490.45\" data-end-seconds=\"2490.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:30.690 - 41:30.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2490.69\" data-end-seconds=\"2490.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:30.840 - 41:31.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2490.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2491.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dabei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:31.150 - 41:31.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2491.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2491.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> warst.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:32.070 - 41:32.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2492.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2492.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:32.300 - 41:32.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2492.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2492.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:32.490 - 41:32.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2492.49\" data-end-seconds=\"2492.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:32.860 - 41:33.130, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2492.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2493.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:33.320 - 41:33.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2493.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2493.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:33.480 - 41:33.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2493.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2493.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beim<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:33.660 - 41:34.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2493.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2494.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:34.250 - 41:34.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2494.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2494.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:34.490 - 41:34.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2494.49\" data-end-seconds=\"2494.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:34.660 - 41:34.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2494.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2494.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:34.800 - 41:35.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2494.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2495.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:35.490 - 41:35.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2495.49\" data-end-seconds=\"2495.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:35.680 - 41:35.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2495.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2495.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_57_10_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"41:35.820 - 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