{"id":19949,"date":"2026-06-01T12:03:22","date_gmt":"2026-06-01T10:03:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/?p=19949"},"modified":"2026-06-01T12:18:03","modified_gmt":"2026-06-01T10:18:03","slug":"274-was-tun-im-angesicht-eines-konflikts-frank-termer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/274-was-tun-im-angesicht-eines-konflikts-frank-termer\/","title":{"rendered":"#274 GddZ &#8211; Was tun im Angesicht eines Konflikts? Im Gespr\u00e4ch mit Dr. Frank Termer"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling gradient-container-1\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>INKOVEMA-Podcast &#8222;Gut durch die Zeit&#8220;<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#274 GddZ<\/h1>\n<h1>Was tun im Angesicht eines Konflikts?<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-3 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>Tritt &#8211; einen Schritt &#8211; zur\u00fcck!<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-4 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h3><strong>Im Gespr\u00e4ch mit Dr. Frank Termer<\/strong><\/h3><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-7\">\n<div class=\"container-fluid\">\n<div class=\"row pt-5 pt-md-5\">\n<div class=\"col col-12 col-lg-8\">\n<div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\">\n<p>promovierter Wirtschaftsinformatiker; Mediator und Konfliktmoderator; Experte f\u00fcr schwierige Gespr\u00e4che in der digitalen Transformation, bis 2025 Verbandsreferent (BITKOM)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\"><\/div>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-5 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h3><strong>Kleine Reihe: Podcast-Feature #05<\/strong><\/h3><\/h3><\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema.podigee.io\/275-274-gddz-was-tun-im-angesicht-eines-konflikts-im-gesprach-mit-dr-frank-termer\/embed?context=external\"><\/script>\n\n\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><h1><strong>Inhalt<\/strong><\/h1>\n<h2><strong>Kapitel:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"\">\n<ul>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">0:06 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Einstieg ins Konfliktmanagement<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">1:29 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Resilienz statt Resignation<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">3:02 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Webinar zur Widerstandsf\u00e4higkeit#<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">8:05 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Vier Perspektiven auf Konflikte<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">16:51 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Erstmal einen Schritt zur\u00fcck<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">23:32 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Konflikt oder Missverst\u00e4ndnis?<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">30:12 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Beobachten ohne Partei zu werden<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">37:18 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Nicht retten, nicht verfolgen<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">42:27 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>F\u00fchrung braucht fr\u00fche Kl\u00e4rung<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">51:36 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Konflikte als Resilienzfaktor<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">55:00 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Fazit und Ausblick<\/div>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<h2><strong>Zusammenfassung<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>In dieser Folge sprechen wir \u00fcber Konfliktmanagement in Organisationen und \u00fcber den Zusammenhang von Konflikten und Resilienz. Wir bereiten ein Live-Online-Seminar vor und \u00fcberlegen, welche konkreten Hinweise f\u00fcr Teilnehmende hilfreich sind.<\/p>\n<p>Wir unterscheiden mehrere<strong> Perspektiven, die in Organisationen relevant sind<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>die Beteiligten im Konflikt,<\/li>\n<li>die Beobachtenden im Umfeld,<\/li>\n<li>F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte und<\/li>\n<li>die Organisation als Ganzes.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Dabei geht es darum, wie wir Konflikte wahrnehmen, einordnen und konstruktiv bearbeiten k\u00f6nnen.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00fcr die Konfliktpartei ist unser <strong>wichtigster Rat, einen Schritt zur\u00fcckzutreten<\/strong> und die Situation zun\u00e4chst aus der (inneren) Distanz zu betrachten. Statt sofort mehr zu kommunizieren oder eine L\u00f6sungsvorschlag unterbreiten, was meist direkt eskalierend wirkt, sollen wir erst verstehen, was die andere Seite m\u00f6glicherweise als Problem erlebt und <strong>welches gemeinsame Problem<\/strong> eigentlich vorliegt.<\/p>\n<p>Wir sprechen au\u00dferdem dar\u00fcber, dass in IT- und Digitalprojekten Konflikte h\u00e4ufig nicht an der Technik scheitern, sondern an sozialen und zwischenmenschlichen Faktoren. Unterschiedliche Rollen, etwa Architektur, UX, Entwicklung oder Fachseite, bringen verschiedene Ziele mit, die ausgehandelt werden m\u00fcssen.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00fcr Beobachtende lautet der Rat, <strong>nicht in die Rollen des Rettens, Verfolgens oder Aufopferns zu geraten<\/strong>. Wir sollen den Kontakt halten, Spannung ansprechen und nicht so tun, als ob nichts w\u00e4re, ohne Partei zu ergreifen.<\/p>\n<p>F\u00fcr F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte betonen wir, <strong>Konflikte fr\u00fchzeitig und mit allen Beteiligten anzusprechen<\/strong>. Sie sollen nicht vorschnell entscheiden, sondern mit Fragen arbeiten, den Rahmen f\u00fcr L\u00f6sungen schaffen und pr\u00fcfen, was das System selbst zur Entstehung der Konflikte beitr\u00e4gt.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"elegant-image elegant-image-0 elegant-align-center \"><div class=\"elegant-image-wrapper\"><a href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Die-3-Dimensionen-der-Verhandlung.png\" class=\"fusion-lightbox\" data-rel=\"iLightbox[elegant-image-0]\" data-caption=\"\" data-title=\"\"><img class=\"lazyload\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%271280%27%20height%3D%271182%27%20viewBox%3D%270%200%201280%201182%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%271280%27%20height%3D%271182%27%20fill-opacity%3D%220%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-orig-src=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/Perspektiven-auf-Konflikte-in-Organisationen.jpeg\" alt=\"\" style=\"width:800px;\"\/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"elegant-image-blur-shadow\"><img class=\"lazyload\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%271280%27%20height%3D%271182%27%20viewBox%3D%270%200%201280%201182%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%271280%27%20height%3D%271182%27%20fill-opacity%3D%220%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-orig-src=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/Perspektiven-auf-Konflikte-in-Organisationen.jpeg\" alt=\"\" style=\"width:800px;\"\/><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\"><\/style><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info icons-on-outer-circle has-box-shadow\" style=\"--awb-title-hover-color:#ea505f;--awb-gradient-start-position:0%;--awb-gradient-end-position:100%;--awb-linear-angle:180deg;--awb-radial-direction:circle at center center;\" data-activation-type=\"mouseover\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-wrapper\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-icons-wrapper\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"1\"><span><i class=\"fa-flag fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"2\"><span><i class=\"fa-flag fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"3\"><span><i class=\"fa-flag fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"4\"><span><i class=\"fa-flag fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-content-wrapper\"><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-1\" data-id=\"1\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">01 Konfliktbeteiligte<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Tritt einen Schritt zur\u00fcck! Zun\u00e4chst mehr Reflexion, statt Kommunikation.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-2\" data-id=\"2\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">02 Konfliktbeobachtende<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Halte Kontakt!<br \/>\nAber: Rette nicht, verfolge nicht und opfere Dich nicht auf!<\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-3\" data-id=\"3\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">03 F\u00fchrungskraft<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Sprich mit beiden Beteiligten gemeinsam!<\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-4\" data-id=\"4\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">03 Leitungskraft<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Schaffe einen konfliktbereiten Organisationsrahmen!<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: 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Sie findet in, mit und f\u00fcr die Organisation statt \u2013 indem den relevanten Organisationsmitgliedern eine angemessene Bearbeitung der Konflikte erm\u00f6glicht wird.<\/p>\n<p>Wir bilden Sie daf\u00fcr aus oder professionalisieren Ihre mediatorische, konfliktberaterische Vorgehensweise. 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font-bold tracking-tight scroll-mt-20\"><\/h2>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_0\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"0.02\" data-end-seconds=\"6\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:00]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Mein wichtigster Rat daf\u00fcr ist, tritt einen Schritt zur\u00fcck.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007298\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[0:06]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Einstieg ins Konfliktmanagement<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_1\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"7.16\" data-end-seconds=\"13.34\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:07]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und wichtig ist schon auch einen Schritt. Also nicht tritt zur\u00fcck, das w\u00e4re eine andere Art der Konfliktbearbeitung.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_2\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"17.4\" data-end-seconds=\"83.71\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:17]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Herzlich willkommen zum Podcast Gut durch die Zeit, der Podcast rund um Mediation, Konfliktcoaching und Organisationsberatung, ein Podcast von Inko Fema. Ich bin Sascha Weigel und begr\u00fc\u00dfe dich zu einer neuen Folge. Die heutige Folge wird sich um Konfliktmanagement drehen und was man tun kann im Angesicht von Konflikten, gerade als Organisationsmitglied. Und diese Podcast mache ich nicht allein, sondern mein Kollege Frank Thermer ist mit dabei. Hallo Frank. Hallo Sascha, freut mich mal wieder hier zu sein. Ja, es ist lange her, als wenn es nichts zu neuen Technologien zu sagen g\u00e4be. Ich glaube, da haben wir nat\u00fcrlich immer viel zu tun gehabt hier. Das stimmt, aber es ist genau das Gegenteil der Fall und deshalb sind wir wahrscheinlich auch so abgetaucht, weil gerade wieder so viele Dinge passieren und entwickelnd werden, dass kaum Zeit bleibt zum Durchatmen. Deshalb freut es mich umso mehr, dass es heute mal wieder klappt. Ja genau, also beim Rahmen neuen Technologien, da ist jetzt schon sozusagen<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007299\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[1:29]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Resilienz statt Resignation<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_3\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"83.71\" data-end-seconds=\"101.87\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[1:23]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Resignation eingetreten, da irgendwie hinterher zu kommen. Heute soll es nicht um Resignation gehen, sondern eher um Resilienz, was f\u00fcr ein \u00dcbergang. Aber wir haben ja heute wirklich was Besonderes vor, wir m\u00fcssen uns irgendwie gemeinsam vortasten. Zun\u00e4chst aber mal, Frank, wie geht es dir?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_4\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"103.03\" data-end-seconds=\"163.95\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[1:43]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, du, wie gesagt, mir geht es gut. Es ist viel los, es entwickelt sich viel, es passiert viel drumherum. Insofern wird es mir nicht langweilig. Mir geht es gut. Ich hoffe, bei dir ist es ebenfalls so. Nee, langweilig wird es mir nicht. Tats\u00e4chlich, ich bin heute auch hier ein bisschen in ungewohnten Gefielten. Ich bin hier beim heimischen Podcaststudio, was meistens nie ein Podcaststudio ist, sondern so ein bisschen umger\u00e4umt und herger\u00e4umt. Da das allerdings immer noch ausschlie\u00dflich Audio-Podcast ist, kann man das nicht sehen. Aber auch das Thema neue Technologien wird sich wahrscheinlich \u00e4ndern. Mittlerweile ist ja so ein richtiger Trend, das Video mit zum Podcast hinzuzunehmen und einen Videopodcast oder Videocast zu machen. Genau, das w\u00fcrde bedeuten, du wirst noch zum Vlogger, so hei\u00dfen die Leute dann, die Videoblogger. Genau, das sind die Vlogger. \u00dcberleg mal, ob das f\u00fcr dich vielleicht auch eine Zukunft haben kann. Ja, genau, das wird wahrscheinlich nicht passieren, wenn ich so durch die Stra\u00dfen gehe mit der Kamera und dann rumvlogge.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_5\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"164.97\" data-end-seconds=\"181.83\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[2:44]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Sondern diese Podcasts einfach eben mit Ton zu nehmen, mit Bild dazu und dann w\u00fcrden solche Dinge deutlich werden, dass ich heute hier in einem v\u00f6llig ungewohnten Format sitze mit, naja klar, mit Gitarren im Hintergrund und dergleichen und so fort.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007300\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[3:02]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Webinar zur Widerstandsf\u00e4higkeit<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_6\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"182.54\" data-end-seconds=\"237.78\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[3:02]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Frank, was haben wir heute vor? Genau, du hast es schon angesprochen, die \u00dcberleitung zum Thema Resilienz. Wir sind in ein paar Tagen live bei der Bitkom Akademie in einem Live-Online-Seminar zum Thema von Widerstand zur Resilienz. Wie sich Unternehmen durch Konfliktf\u00e4higkeit genau auf solche Dinge vorbereiten k\u00f6nnen, von denen man heute sagt, man muss Resilienz sein, um halt Ver\u00e4nderungen, Geschwindigkeit, was da alles dazugeh\u00f6rt, gut \u00fcberstehen oder gestalten kann. Und da sind wir in ein paar Tagen direkt live. Es werden mehrere hundert Leute erwartet. Also die Anmeldezahlen sind schon sehr gut. Und wir haben das Seminar ja schon zweimal gehalten. Aber wie gerade gesagt, da entwickeln sich ja st\u00e4ndig Dinge weiter. Das hei\u00dft, wir k\u00f6nnen das nicht so von der Stange einfach nochmal machen. Das funktioniert nicht, sondern wir m\u00fcssen das entsprechend anders vorbereiten. Also selbst wenn Sie uns das Versprechen abgenommen h\u00e4tten, wir machen es nochmal genauso wie beim letzten Mal, wo es relativ erfolgreich war, wir w\u00fcrden sagen, nein.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_7\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"238.78\" data-end-seconds=\"279.88\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[3:58]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Genau, es gibt schon wieder neue Erkenntnisse, neue Dinge, so ist es. Und da m\u00fcssen wir uns ein bisschen vorbereiten und nochmal abstimmen. Was nehmen wir rein? Wie soll es aufgebaut werden? Weil es ist in der Stunde nicht viel Zeit tats\u00e4chlich. Es wird auch noch ein paar Fragen, Antworten geben. Das ist immer so gebaut. Und deshalb die Frage, ja, was kommt rein? Wor\u00fcber reden wir? Was ist so gerade dran? Und was k\u00f6nnen wir den Leuten, die da auch hinkommen, sich die Zeit nehmen, uns zuzuh\u00f6ren? Was k\u00f6nnen wir denen an Mehrwert mitgeben? Das ist f\u00fcr mich immer bei solchen Events total wichtig. Nicht nur einfach Expertise zu zeigen und Dinge zu erz\u00e4hlen, mit Wissen zu gl\u00e4nzen, sondern den Leuten was Konkretes an die Hand zu geben, dass die da rausgehen k\u00f6nnen und sagen, Mensch, das war wertvoll, dass ich dabei war, das hat mir geholfen und ich wei\u00df jetzt genau, was ich tun kann.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_8\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"281.68\" data-end-seconds=\"353.74\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[4:41]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Genau, das wird auch unser Ansatz, unser Anspruch sein, wirklich was Konkretes. Lieber weniger und daf\u00fcr mehr Wirkung als Zubomben mit Informationen und M\u00f6glichkeiten und Tools, von denen man dann eher erschlagen rausgeht. Daher \u00fcben wir heute eigentlich eher das Abgespeckte und das Minimalistische an. Aber eine Frage, das ist ja bei deinem alten Arbeitgeber, sozusagen in alter Wirkungsst\u00e4tte, der Bitkom Akademie, ist das eigentlich ein offenes Seminar, wenn jemand jetzt uns zuh\u00f6ren sollte, das kann ja vorkommen, dass die dann sagen, ich habe richtig Lust drauf bekommen, mir das dann auch anzuh\u00f6ren und anzuschauen, wenn das Webinar durchgef\u00fchrt wird? Genau, das ist ein Live-Online-Seminar und die sind tats\u00e4chlich kostenfrei, von jedermann, jeder Frau, frei buchbar und kann man auch kurzfristig sich noch anmelden, um dabei zu sein. Vielleicht als Hintergrund genau die Bitkom-Akademie. Im Bitkom-Kosmos war ich lange Zeit unterwegs, mehr als zehn Jahre. Und die Akademie ist jetzt mehr als 20 Jahre auch alt, also hat letztens auch Geburtstag gefeiert und ist eigentlich so der Weiterbildungsplayer im digitalen Bereich, kann man sagen, rund um digitale Technologien, Digitalisierungsthemen, Transformationsthemen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_9\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"354.26\" data-end-seconds=\"388.24\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[5:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Da hat sich die Akademie in den letzten Jahren echt ein krasses Standing erarbeitet und wird da auch sehr gut nachgefragt. Und das Spannende f\u00fcr mich ist nat\u00fcrlich und f\u00fcr uns dann auch hier in diesem Podcast die Fokussierung auf das Thema Digitalisierung, digitale Transformation. Das hei\u00dft, diese technologische Brille ist da immer mit drin. Das hei\u00dft, wir k\u00f6nnen auf jeden Fall Menschen erwarten, die irgendwie einen technischen Hintergrund haben oder eben in Digitalprojekten gerade unterwegs sind. Und das macht es f\u00fcr mich immer besonders spannend, diese \u00dcbersetzungsthemen dann auch anzuschauen. Weil die haben nat\u00fcrlich auch in irgendeiner Form Reibereien, Konflikte, Missverst\u00e4ndnisse.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_10\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"388.8\" data-end-seconds=\"411.18\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[6:28]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Spannenderweise nennen die das h\u00e4ufig nicht so oder erkennen das manchmal auch gar nicht, dass es der Fall ist. Und trotzdem gibt es diese Situation und da wei\u00df man sich manchmal gar nicht so recht zu behelfen an der Stelle. Deshalb finde ich, passen wir da gut hin, weil wir k\u00f6nnen mit unserem Hintergrundwissen da auf jeden Fall einen Beitrag und Mehrwert liefern an der Stelle und eben hoffentlich auch den Menschen was mitgeben, dass sie konkret in Situationen besser agieren k\u00f6nnen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_11\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"411.91\" data-end-seconds=\"485.15\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[6:51]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Stimmt eigentlich sozusagen auch aus deiner Perspektive als Involvierter in dieser Branche, in diesem Kreis von Digitalprojekten und Digitalisierung im Fokus, dass diese Projekte eher am Konflikthaften, am Sozialen scheitern als am Digitalen und am Technischen? Absolut. Also das hat man aber auch schon seit Jahren und Jahrzehnten untersucht. Es gibt immer wieder auch mal Untersuchungen und Studien, die sich damit besch\u00e4ftigen, warum insbesondere IT-Projekte scheitern. Und man findet immer wieder aufs Neue quasi das Gleiche raus und sagt, es scheitert nicht an der Technologie. Also diese ganzen technologischen Dinge, die man braucht, die ganzen neuen, wei\u00df nicht, KI, Cloud und was das schon alles war, das ist alles gar nicht das Thema. Das kriegt man sehr gut in den Griff. Aber wo es eben kracht und scheitert, sind eben genau diese zwischenmenschlichen, die sozialen Themen, die man da eben auch nicht immer gut gel\u00f6st bekommt und die dann dazu f\u00fchren, dass Projekte auch l\u00e4nger dauern, dass sie teurer werden, dass sie gar nicht abgeschlossen werden. Das sind reale Themen und Probleme und das eben schon seit Jahrzehnten tats\u00e4chlich, ja. Ja.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007301\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[8:05]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Vier Perspektiven auf Konflikte<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_12\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"486.17\" data-end-seconds=\"570.49\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[8:06]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Frank, was haben wir vor? Wir haben schon mal dieses Seminar in der \u00dcberschrift so gehalten, weil das so gut ankam, das k\u00f6nnen wir ja hier so ganz offen sagen, sind ja unter uns, haben wir alles beibehalten und wollen dennoch alles ver\u00e4ndern. Wir haben den Titel belassen, weil der kam gut an, von Widerstand zur Resilienz. Was ist zu tun in der resilienten Organisation? Wir wollen aber ganz anders diesmal vorgehen. Ich habe das schon mal getestet jetzt bei einem anderen Webinar und wollen ganz kleinschrittig rangehen. Keine gro\u00dfen Theorien, keine gro\u00dfe Entscheidung von Psychologie-Perspektive oder Organisations-Perspektive, sondern wir teilen das in die einzelnen Perspektiven auf. Was kann ich als Mitarbeiter tun, wenn ich einen Konflikt erlebe? Also im Sinne von, ich stelle fest, ich bin im Konflikt. Was tue ich jetzt als Beobachter, als Teammitglied, als Dritter sozusagen, als unbeteiligter Dritter? Was tue ich da, wenn ich merke, meine Kollegen oder Zulieferern sind im Konflikt? Als F\u00fchrungskraft, als besondere Perspektive, die Verantwortung hat? Als dritte Form. Und wenn wir noch Zeit haben, haben wir auch mal geguckt, die Perspektive der Organisation, also einer Leitungskraft.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_13\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"572.89\" data-end-seconds=\"589.35\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:32]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">H\u00e4ltst du das f\u00fcr sinnvoll, so zu differenzieren? Oder anders gesagt, was ist daran sinnvoll, das so zu tun? Ja, w\u00e4re ich, dass ich dir da widersprechen mag, Sascha. Du hast ja schon gesagt, du hast es schon ausprobiert. Ein freier Mitglieder w\u00e4rst du dann.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_14\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"590.63\" data-end-seconds=\"645.17\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:50]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ich halte das absolut f\u00fcr sinnvoll. Zum einen hast du es ja schon ausprobiert und das macht ja auch aus den Perspektiven total Sinn. Und auch aus der Erfahrung heraus, die ich ja auch selber gemacht habe in IT-Projekten, sind das ja genau die unterschiedlichen Rollen, die man ja auch immer wieder findet. Und die Menschen, die dann zu uns kommen werden in dieses Online-Seminar, die bringen ja ihre Rollen da auch mit und das werden genau diese verschiedenen Perspektiven sein. Es gibt dann Menschen, die im Projekt sind, die als Product Owner arbeiten, die im Bereich UX arbeiten, die Software-Tester sind, die also mitten im IT-Team t\u00e4tig sind, wirklich in ihren Rollen dann auch tagt\u00e4glich mit unterschiedlichen Arten von Konflikten zu tun haben. Das sind die Projektverantwortlichen, die F\u00fcgungs- und Fachkr\u00e4fte, die man da auch hat, die f\u00fcr Teilprojekte verantwortlich sind, die f\u00fcr gro\u00dfe Themen verantwortlich sind, die disziplinarisch verantwortlich sind. Ganz h\u00e4ufig finden ja IT-Projekte in so einer Matrix-Organisation statt, sodass man allein aufgrund der Struktur ja auch schon Konflikte nicht vermeiden kann.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_15\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"645.79\" data-end-seconds=\"684.61\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[10:45]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und dann hat man die Au\u00dfenstehenden, die vielleicht dann auch, wo sind die externe Berater sein k\u00f6nnen, andere Abteilungen, die auch mal draufschauen von der Seite. Die stehen dann immer so ein bisschen daneben, kriegen nat\u00fcrlich auch viel mehr mit. und wissen manchmal dann auch gar nicht, wie gehe ich denn damit um. Und der Br\u00fcckenschlag dann zur Resilienz ist dann nat\u00fcrlich klar in der vierten Perspektive, wenn man die Organisation in den Blick nimmt. Gerade aktuell die wirtschaftlichen Zeiten sind ja in diesem Jahr mehr als schlecht und herausfordernd f\u00fcr viele. Also die Insolvenzwelle l\u00e4uft und macht auch vor den IT-Bereichen nicht Halt. Insofern ist Resilienz auch aus Organisationssicht auf jeden Fall ein lohnenswertes und erstrebenswertes Ziel, durch diese st\u00fcrmische Zeit zu kommen und irgendwie ihr was entgegensetzen zu k\u00f6nnen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_16\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"685.27\" data-end-seconds=\"692.91\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:25]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Insofern aus meiner Sicht absolut gut, diese vier Perspektiven, die du da gew\u00e4hlt hast, das dann auch so systematisch zu beackern, dass dann jeder auch was mitnehmen kann.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_17\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"694.39\" data-end-seconds=\"701.25\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:34]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Vielleicht noch genau, vielleicht nehmen wir noch die Klammer mit rein. Die Grundidee, und das ist ja auch von der Bitkom so.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_18\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"702.27\" data-end-seconds=\"735.33\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:42]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">So eingesteuert worden, dass gutes, konstruktives Konfliktmanagement, der Zugang ist jetzt hier an der Resilienz der Organisation zu arbeiten. Und es gibt andere Zug\u00e4nge nat\u00fcrlich. Man kann anders auch die Organisation Zukunft festmachen, au\u00dfer jetzt eben Konflikte in den Blick zu nehmen. Unsere Eins, die mit Konflikten halt gerne arbeiten und dort den Fokus drauf gelegt haben als Trainer, externe Berater, Coaches, ist es nat\u00fcrlich sch\u00f6n und naheliegend, dass eben dort jetzt auch Konflikte in den Blick genommen werden.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_19\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"736.01\" data-end-seconds=\"796.11\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[12:16]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das ist auch, glaube ich, gut belegt und ich hatte das so beim letzten Mal den Eindruck, dass da besteht eine Einigkeit drin, bei den Teilnehmern auch. Das muss man denen eigentlich nicht nahe bringen. Nee, das stimmt. Wobei ich da, glaube ich, differenzieren w\u00fcrde und da w\u00fcrde mich deine Erfahrung mal interessieren, gerade bei der ersten Rolle, wenn man sagt, die Beteiligten in der Organisation, also im Projekt, die wirklich operativ t\u00e4tig sind, da glaube ich, ist diese Wahrnehmung und das Teilen der Einsch\u00e4tzung sehr deutlich sp\u00fcrbar. Auf den h\u00f6heren Ebenen, was so F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte, Leitungskr\u00e4fte betrifft oder dann vielleicht wirklich im organisationalen Kontext gedacht, da habe ich immer eher so den Eindruck, das ist irgendwie schon ein Thema, aber man spricht irgendwie nicht gern dr\u00fcber. Also Konflikte hat keiner irgendwie gern oder man sagt, nee, gibt es bei uns irgendwie gar nicht. Und man mag es vielleicht als Begriff auch gar nicht so richtig verwenden. Also da merke ich immer so eine leichte Abwehrreaktion, sodass es schon ja notwendig war, aus unserem Blick dieses Thema eher so in Resilienz etwas Positives zu verpacken, zu sagen, naja.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_20\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"796.81\" data-end-seconds=\"809.01\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[13:16]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wenn du es halt nicht negativ benennen willst und sagst, Konflikt ist dir irgendwie unangenehm, dann benennen wir es halt anders, aber der Inhalt ist ja trotzdem drin. Es ist ja da und es ist ja nicht wegzudiskutieren. Wie ist da so dein Eindruck in den verschiedenen Ebenen?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_21\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"811.07\" data-end-seconds=\"821.03\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[13:31]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also, es gibt sicherlich Tendenzen oder Situationen, dass man das nicht Konflikt nennen will, sondern anders, um vielleicht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_22\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"822.07\" data-end-seconds=\"901.39\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[13:42]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Die Stimmung irgendwie so zu behalten oder anzusteuern, die man gerne h\u00e4tte. Und die Bef\u00fcrchtung ist da, dass das irgendwie alles dann in den Bach runtergeht, wenn man das so benennt. Das, glaube ich, ist aber weniger als fr\u00fcher. Das ist heute, ich finde, da schon eine h\u00f6here Offenheit, eine gr\u00f6\u00dfere Offenheit und auch irgendwie ein direkteres Zugehen auf Konflikten als noch im Mittel fr\u00fcher. Und das mag in Branchen oder in bestimmten Bereichen und Organisationen auch unterschiedlich sein. Ob man eben gewohnt ist, Konflikte miteinander auszutragen oder ob das neue Erfahrung ist zum Beispiel, weil man es gemacht hat oder eben weil man als Organisation, als Startup zum Beispiel solche Situationen bisher nie hatte, sondern immer irgendwie bergauf geguckt hat und aufw\u00e4rts und vorw\u00e4rts und dann aber doch mal so eine Konsolidierung und sich zusammensetzen anl\u00e4sslich eines kritischen Elements, das dann eben Konflikt auch genannt wird. Dass vielleicht Leitungskr\u00e4fte die Konflikte anderer nicht so nahe und dringend empfinden, ist glaube ich nichts ungew\u00f6hnlich. Das geht Menschen wie in Leuten. Die Konflikte anderer sind uns immer irgendwie weniger dramatisch und in der Verantwortung stehende Personen erscheinen dort eher als Probleme.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_23\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"902.29\" data-end-seconds=\"946.51\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[15:02]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und wenn in der Abteilung X es rumort und immer wieder das Feuer ausbricht und Betriebsrat und Co. Kommen immer wieder oder K\u00fcndigungen, Krankheitswellen, dann ist das ein Problem. Und das gut anzugehen, obwohl man keine Zeit hat, sich dem zu widmen, weil eben schon der Tag mit Aufgaben gef\u00fcllt ist, das macht eigentlich das Dramatische am Konflikt aus, wenn man so unter Verantwortung steht, aber nicht unmittelbar involviert ist. Und sich dem zu widmen, das schaffen halt Konflikte, diese Aufmerksamkeit durch Dramatik, durch hohe Kosten, hohe Aufmerksamkeitskosten und die ziehen die Aufmerksamkeit auf sich.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_24\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"949.37\" data-end-seconds=\"1010.91\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[15:49]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ich erlebe das nicht mehr so, dass da eine gro\u00dfe Scheu davor ist. Aber ehe man als Mitarbeiterin oder als Teammitglied es schafft, auf einen Konflikt aufmerksam zu machen, den doch die ganze Organisation bemerken m\u00fcsste, das dauert einfach. Und da erlebe ich h\u00e4ufig eine hohe Erwartungshaltung gegen\u00fcber einer Organisation, die ich sag mal so von der Warte her unberechtigt ist, dass man, schon selber das Wort erheben muss und aufmerksam machen muss in einer Tonlage, die hoffentlich geh\u00f6rt wird und da ist schon die Schwierigkeit Ja, da sind wir dann schon fast bei der ersten Rolle oder bei dem ersten bei der ersten Anspruchsgruppe, \u00fcber die wir ja auch sprechen wollen, was mache ich denn nun wenn ich irgendwie feststelle da ist irgendwie ein Konflikt oder eine Spannung oder eine Missstimmung oder was auch immer und ich stecke da nun irgendwie auch noch selbst mittendrin. Was habe ich denn f\u00fcr Optionen? Was kann ich denn tun?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007302\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[16:51]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Erstmal einen Schritt zur\u00fcck<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_25\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1011.81\" data-end-seconds=\"1041.47\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[16:51]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, und hier haben wir uns ja bewusst minimalisiert und gesagt, wir geben drei Tipps. Mehr nicht. Es sind nur drei. Und vielleicht sind sogar zwei besser. Was mache ich, wenn ich Konfliktpartei bin, wenn ich realisiere, oh, das ist jetzt Konflikt. Und da w\u00fcrde ich gerade nicht in diese ersten drei den Gedanken nehmen, ich muss die Organisation informieren, Konfliktanlaufstelle, Betriebsr\u00e4te, Personalr\u00e4te oder Mobbing beauftragt oder, oder, oder.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_26\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1042.59\" data-end-seconds=\"1058.73\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[17:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Damit die Organisation irgendwie Bescheid wei\u00df, sondern das ist erstmal wirklich mein Verantwortungsbereich, hier eine gute Reaktion, eine gute konstruktive Konfliktbearbeitung aus meiner Perspektive einzuleiten und bis dato ist ja schon eine ganze Menge passiert.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_27\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1059.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1132.83\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[17:39]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Mein wichtigster Rat daf\u00fcr ist, tritt einen Schritt zur\u00fcck. Und wichtig ist schon auch einen Schritt. Also nicht tritt zur\u00fcck, das w\u00e4re eine andere Art der Konfliktbearbeitung, sondern tritt einen Schritt zur\u00fcck und schaue auf die Situation sozusagen von au\u00dfen, so unm\u00f6glich, dass auch erstmal sich anh\u00f6rt. Aber das bedeutet, nicht versuchen jetzt erstmal sozusagen aktivistisch, versuchen das irgendwie zu kl\u00e4ren und wegzumachen und das sofort nicht als Problem zu sehen, sondern wenn es schon so hoch eskaliert ist, dass wir es Konflikt nennen, dann ist eine ganze Menge vorher schon missgedeutet, missverstanden, missinterpretiert worden. Und das Erste, was man tun kann, ist einen Schritt zur\u00fcckgehen. Und das meine ich auch bewusst in Abgrenzung zu der Idee, wir m\u00fcssen jetzt mehr kommunizieren. Denn das ist das, was ich tats\u00e4chlich immer h\u00f6re. Wir haben zu wenig Kommunikation, wir m\u00fcssen mehr kommunizieren. Die Kommunikation h\u00f6rt ja nicht auf, nur weil sie sich jetzt konflikthaft entwickelt. Konflikte sind Kommunikation und sind intensive Kommunikation.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_28\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1134.25\" data-end-seconds=\"1180.11\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[18:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also es ist eher so, das, was wir als L\u00f6sungsidee haben, dass wir das besser erst mal nicht laut sagen sollten, sondern zun\u00e4chst mal einen Schritt zur\u00fccktreten, die Sache entschleunigen. Aber da w\u00fcrde ich vielleicht noch mal einhaken und vielleicht auch quasi gedanklich, dass wir noch mal einen Schritt zur\u00fccktreten. Weil ich kann mir vorstellen, und das w\u00e4re f\u00fcr mich dann auch in dem Live-Online-Seminar noch ein Punkt, den wir reinnehmen sollten, was ist denn eigentlich genau dieser Konflikt, von dem wir da reden? Oder was unterscheidet denn den von einem Missverst\u00e4ndnis oder von einer Meinungsverschiedenheit oder von anderen m\u00f6glicherweise spannungsbehafteten Situationen, die ja immer wieder im Alltag auch auftreten k\u00f6nnen? Also wovon reden wir tats\u00e4chlich und was meinen wir aber auch nicht? Also f\u00fcr welche Situationen sind dann diese Tipps wirklich gut geeignet?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_29\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1181.61\" data-end-seconds=\"1229.37\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[19:41]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Naja, wenn ich jetzt von einem Konflikt spreche, wenn ich als Berater oder Vermittler in einer Konfliktsituation hinzugezogen werde, dann gehe ich davon aus, dass die Beteiligten des Konfliktes jeweils eine ganz \u00e4hnliche Erfahrung machen. Dass ein Anspruch an die andere Person, das hei\u00dft, dass sie was tun oder lassen soll, dass das nicht erfolgt. Das kann man mit Widerstand oder nein, ich mache das nicht, ich bin nicht ruhig, ich leite die Mail nicht weiter oder ich komme nicht zu dem in dem Zeitpunkt, was auch immer, dass das nicht gemacht wird. Und die andere Seite, er macht die gleiche Erfahrung, dass eine Idee, wie es am besten gehen sollte oder am vern\u00fcnftigsten oder wie es am einfachsten sein sollte, dass das einfach nicht gemacht wird.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_30\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1230.97\" data-end-seconds=\"1240.83\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[20:30]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das kann von lass mich in Ruhe und er macht das einfach nicht, leitet die Mail weiter, macht die Aufgabe, macht das und das und das macht er einfach nicht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_31\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1243.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1318.16\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[20:43]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und was normalerweise passiert ist, wir denken dann dr\u00fcber nach, warum macht der das? Das ist doch eigentlich das einfachste, vern\u00fcnftigste, beste, notwendigste von der Welt. Und mit dem muss was nicht stimmen, wenn er das nicht tut. Und dann wird probiert, noch \u00fcberzeugender zu sein, noch mehr Druck aufzubauen, dass er das endlich macht. Das ist das, was wir Eskalation nennen. Ja, und das finde ich einen guten und wichtigen Punkt, den du da sagst, das nochmal wirklich klarzustellen, worum es da eigentlich geht. Weil gerade im IT-Bereich habe ich ja die Erfahrung gemacht, es gibt bestimmte Differenzen, die sind auch in bestimmten Rollen und Strukturen fest angelegt. Die m\u00fcssen auch tats\u00e4chlich da sein und die sind wichtig f\u00fcr den Erfolg von IT-Projekten. Also was meine ich damit zum Beispiel? So ein typischer Konflikt zwischen irgendwie Architektur und UX-Bereich. Also der eine ist so f\u00fcr die Technologie verantwortlich, hat das Technische im Blick, wie ist so eine L\u00f6sung gebaut, welche Systeme greifen wie ineinander, muss das Ding skalieren, nach au\u00dfen, Cloud und alles M\u00f6gliche. Und jemand anderes ist daf\u00fcr verantwortlich, eine L\u00f6sung so zu gestalten, dass sie gut benutzt werden kann, dass sie vom End-User, wie man spricht, auch gern genutzt wird, dass die ihre Ziele erreichen, dass die produktiver sein k\u00f6nnen, dass die auch Spa\u00df vielleicht haben, mit so einem System zu arbeiten.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_32\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1319.03\" data-end-seconds=\"1393.69\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[21:59]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und diese beiden quasi Ziele, die man ja auch hat in solchen Projekten, die sind nicht immer gleich ausgerichtet. Die laufen manchmal kontr\u00e4r und stehen sich dann auch irgendwie ein St\u00fcck weit gegen\u00fcber. Und man muss dann abw\u00e4gen und Entscheidungen treffen. Geht man eher in die oder in die andere Richtung oder kann man das kombinieren? Welche M\u00f6glichkeiten gibt es da? Und da w\u00fcrde ich sagen, das ist dann so eine typische schon Meinungsverschiedenheit. Da kann man anderer Meinung sein, wie etwas am besten zu tun und zu l\u00f6sen ist. Aber es ist dann eher so ein konstruktives Inverhandlungen gehen, L\u00f6sungen abw\u00e4gen und wirklich mal so Kosten, Aufwand, Nutzen gegen\u00fcberzustellen und gemeinschaftlich dann auch als Team mit diesen verschiedenen Perspektiven eine gute Entscheidung zu treffen. Und das w\u00e4re mir, glaube ich, wichtig nochmal zu sagen, das geh\u00f6rt dazu. Das ist auch zum Alltag in IT-Projekten nicht wegzudiskutieren, weil davon leben dann auch solche Projekte. Und das andere, was du ja beschreibst, ist dann ja genau eher dieses Konfliktbehaftete, wo dann m\u00f6glicherweise aus solchen strukturell angelegten Differenzen dann solche wirklich echten Konflikte entstehen, die auch auf der menschlichen Ebene dann passieren, wo es Menschen h\u00e4ufig nicht schaffen, zwischen Person und Rolle zu trennen. Ich sage, hey, der eine will das gar nicht und sehe aber gar nicht, der hat eine gewisse Rolle mit einer Aufgabe und einer Zielstellung, die er verfolgt, genauso wie ich das dann auch vielleicht in meinem Projekt.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_33\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1394.6\" data-end-seconds=\"1410.7\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[23:14]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und ich argumentiere und diskutiere aus meiner Rolle und der Verantwortung heraus und kriege das aber nicht von der Person getrennt. Und dann sage ich nicht, hey, der IT-Architekt hat da einen bl\u00f6den Vorschlag gemacht, sondern dann sage ich, der Sascha ist doof, der h\u00f6rt nicht, was ich sage. Der kapiert es nicht. Der kapiert es nicht, genau. Und das ist, finde ich, nochmal ein wichtiger Unterschied,<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007303\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[23:32]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Konflikt oder Missverst\u00e4ndnis?<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_34\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1410.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1434.86\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[23:30]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">den wir da einnehmen sollten. Und deshalb ist diese Empfehlung, einen Schritt zur\u00fcckzutreten und das gr\u00f6\u00dfere Bild versuchen erstmal in den Blick zu bekommen, zumindest eine Frage zu stellen, was k\u00f6nnte noch das gr\u00f6\u00dfere Bild sein, genau das Passende. Also weniger Kommunikation, sondern mehr Reflexion ist der erste Ratschlag sozusagen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_35\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1435.76\" data-end-seconds=\"1504.6\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[23:55]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Weil wir im Konflikt, also wenn wir merken, wir sind im Konflikt, dann ist das schon passiert, dass wir die Logik der anderen Seite aus dem Blick verloren haben. Dann sehe ich nur, der Button muss doch rot oben drauf sein. Der darf nicht runterscrollen. Jeder Kunde, also das muss doch eigentlich auch so ein Techniker wissen. Wieso macht denn der das jetzt? Und ich habe dem das dreimal geschrieben, der soll das \u00e4ndern und er macht das einfach nicht. Und ich sehe, dass er meine Mail gelesen hat und er tut es nicht. Und das erz\u00e4hle ich dann halt meinen Kollegen und dann dem gemeinsamen Projektleiter oder wem auch immer. Und dann schreibe ich eine gro\u00dfe Mail, dass das doch ganz einfach ist und will eigentlich erreichen, dass der das macht. Und ich arbeite intensiv daran, aus der Perspektive des anderen, dass er es nicht tut. Der hat in aller Regel auch so eine Situation gerade, nur halt mit mir als uneinsichtigen, bekloppten, widerst\u00e4ndigen, nicht teamf\u00e4higen Mitarbeiter.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_36\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1507.23\" data-end-seconds=\"1520.23\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[25:07]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und sozusagen, wenn die dann aufeinandertreffen und sich hoch eskalieren, wenn man da hinh\u00f6rt mit der Idee, die schleudern sich L\u00f6sungsideen um die Ohren, ohne dass sie ein gemeinsames Problemverst\u00e4ndnis haben.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_37\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1521.25\" data-end-seconds=\"1524.51\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[25:21]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Dann kommen wir in der Vermittlung easy-leicht durch.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_38\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1525.33\" data-end-seconds=\"1611.77\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[25:25]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das bringt uns \u00fcberhaupt nicht mehr aus der Ruhe, weil wir eigentlich nur Engagement h\u00f6ren, L\u00f6sungsengagement. Absolut. Und sozusagen Schritt zur\u00fccktreten und dann in den, das w\u00e4re der zweite Schritt, in den Fragemottos gehen. Und zwar in einem Fragemottos, der halt nicht, der sozusagen nicht lautet, sag mal, was reitet denn dich f\u00fcr ein Tiger, dass du das nicht hinkriegst? Oder sag mal, was hast denn du geraucht, dass du das nicht hinkriegst? Das ist ja irgendwie schon eine offene Frage, technisch, aber kommt als rhetorische Frage r\u00fcber. Das ist vielleicht in dem Moment nicht zielf\u00fchrend, tats\u00e4chlich. Aber absolut richtig. Diesen Schritt zur\u00fccktreten und mit ehrlichem Interesse auf den anderen zu schauen und in die Situation reinzugehen. Was steckt da f\u00fcr eine positive Absicht dahinter? Was f\u00fcr ein Ziel will der andere erreichen? Wo ist sein Problem oder ihr Thema, was ich vielleicht gerade nicht sehe? Genau. Die erste Arbeit w\u00e4re sozusagen gemeinsam, das Problem gemeinsam zu definieren. Und das machen eigentlich alle Konfliktparteien durch, dass sie unterschiedliche Problemdefinitionen haben. Und damit arbeiten sie technisch gesehen an verschiedenen Problemen, sind aber aufeinander angewiesen, weil die L\u00f6sungsans\u00e4tze immer mit den anderen gekoppelt sind. Du musst doch nur das so machen. Es geht doch eigentlich ganz einfach. Wenn ich es selber machen k\u00f6nnte, dann w\u00fcrde ich es tun, aber es ist deine Aufgabe.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_39\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1613.15\" data-end-seconds=\"1692.19\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[26:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und es ist ein spannendes Feld. Also im IT-Umfeld spricht man da von Anforderungen oder Requirements, was auch, da gibt es B\u00fccher noch und L\u00f6cher und Vertiefungsstudieng\u00e4nge, Weiterbildungslehrg\u00e4nge, ich wei\u00df nicht, was alles noch im Bereich Requirements, Engineering, wo es einfach in Anf\u00fchrungszeichen gesprochen darum geht, die Anforderungen der Nutzenden so klar wie es geht aufzuschreiben, um daraus abzuleiten, was muss denn die L\u00f6sung k\u00f6nnen und wie muss das technisch umgesetzt werden, um diese Anforderungen zu erf\u00fcllen. Und allein schon dann sowas aufzuschreiben, was ist denn tats\u00e4chlich die Anforderung, was braucht denn so ein Anwender, so eine Anwenderin und was bedeutet das f\u00fcr eine technische L\u00f6sung, ist nicht trivial an der Stelle. Und das wird h\u00e4ufig, auch heute noch leider so ein bisschen stiefm\u00fctterlich behandelt, kommt h\u00e4ufig zu kurz. Da wird viel rein interpretiert, dass das doch klar w\u00e4re, was man dann machen muss oder was der User schon will. Die K\u00f6nigsdisziplin ist dann, dass man fragt den User gar nicht, sondern man meint schon zu wissen, was die Kunden wollen. Dann l\u00e4sst man den User gleich ganz au\u00dfen vor und wundert sich hinterher, ein System zu haben, was nicht genutzt werden will und wird, weil man komplett an den Anforderungen vorbeientwickelt hat. Also da hei\u00dft es dann auch wieder, die Hausaufgaben am Anfang zu machen, spart dann im weiteren Verlauf und gerade auch sp\u00e4ter im Projekt den ganzen \u00c4rger, den man ja sowieso nicht haben will. Also da lohnt es sich, vorn viel Aufwand reinzustecken, um das alles auszugleichen und eben k\u00fcmmern.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_40\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1693.08\" data-end-seconds=\"1735.32\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:13]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">W\u00e4hrend den Anf\u00e4ngen fr\u00fchzeitig Aufw\u00e4nde zu machen. Ja, und das ist ja sozusagen das, was man so als erste Phase in der Konfliktbearbeitung oder auch in der Konfliktvermittlung hinbekommen will, dass die aus ihrer Gegeneinandergerichtetheit, wo sie sich sozusagen aneinander abarbeiten, weil sie in dem anderen den L\u00f6sungsansatz erkennen, den er einfach nicht ausf\u00fchrt, dass man hinkommt zu einem gemeinsamen Problemverst\u00e4ndnis. Und dann hat man wie ein Team das Problem zu l\u00f6sen und dann kommen diese ganzen Sachfragen, die ja hoch auch strittig sind und unklar und den besten Weg dazu, den muss man dann ohnehin noch irgendwie rausfinden.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_41\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1736.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1810.86\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:56]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wie finden wir denn raus, was der User will? K\u00f6nnen wir uns in die hineinversetzen? Wir sind doch auch irgendwie ein St\u00fcck weit User oder m\u00fcssen wir die wirklich befragen? Und wie machen wir das? Qualitativ oder mittelbar \u00fcber das Messen der Benutzeroberfl\u00e4che. Das sind ja dann ohnehin alles schwierige Fragestellungen. Aber wenn man die sozusagen ausgerichtet angeht als Team, hat das nichts Konflikthaftes. Sondern das ist ein Problem. Genau, das geh\u00f6rt zum t\u00e4glichen Arbeiten in IT-Projekten einfach dazu, immer wieder diese Aushandlungsprozesse auch zu haben. Gerade zwischen Geschwindigkeit und Sicherheit oder zwischen Qualit\u00e4t und Geschwindigkeit ist auch so ein h\u00e4ufiger Zielkonflikt. Fachbereich und technische Umsetzung, du hast ganz viel Compliance-Anforderungen und rechtliche Vorgaben, die mit da reingeh\u00f6ren. Manchmal auch noch dom\u00e4nenspezifisches Fachwissen, was auch reingeh\u00f6rt. Wenn ich da so an kritische Systeme denke, im Gesundheitsbereich oder im Mobilit\u00e4tsbereich oder Sonstiges, das sind schon echt sehr hoch anspruchsvolle Umfelder, in denen man dann auch IT-m\u00e4\u00dfig agieren muss und da geh\u00f6rt es zum t\u00e4glichen Arbeiten dazu, immer wieder auszuhandeln, auszutarieren und gemeinsam nach L\u00f6sungen zu suchen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007304\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[30:12]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Beobachten ohne Partei zu werden<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_42\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1812.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1846.5\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[30:12]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Okay, vielleicht soweit. Ich glaube, der Grundgedanke ist klar, wenn man Konfliktpartei ist. Was empfehlen wir, wenn wir beobachten in einer Organisation, dort haben zwei richtig Beef miteinander. Im Meeting werden spitze Fragen und Emp\u00f6rungen, vielleicht wird es sogar laut und es ist ganz deutlich, oh, da ist was. Die beiden, die gehen sich ja richtig an. Was ist denn da passiert, wenn wir in die Beobachterposition kommen? Ja.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_43\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1848.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1903.56\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[30:48]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, das ist spannend, weil ich glaube, am Anfang ist so die eine Frage, die man sich selber stellt und da kann ich auch wieder aus Projekterfahrung berichten, wenn man sowas mitbekommt, ist so die erste Frage, die ich mir immer gestellt habe, soll ich mich einmischen oder soll ich mich nicht einmischen? Und habe dann aber auch festgestellt, selbst wenn ich mich nicht einmische, ist das auch eine Art von Einmischung, weil ich nat\u00fcrlich irgendwie irgendwann auch befragt werden werde. Also wie siehst du das? Oder hast du das schon geh\u00f6rt? Oder vielleicht wollen mich auch die Parteien mit reinziehen. Also die erste Frage war f\u00fcr mich immer, was mache ich denn nun? Handeln oder nicht handeln? Okay, aber das sind f\u00fcr mich zwei Fragen. Okay. Und zwar die erste finde ich interessant, weil sie auf die Spur f\u00fchrt, die wichtig ist. Die Frage, soll ich mich einmischen oder nicht einmischen? Das ist ja die Frage von jemandem an einen anderen, dem man befragt, soll ich oder soll ich nicht. Oder man befragt sich selbst halt in dem Fall.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_44\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1904.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1954.22\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[31:44]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Es gibt eine vorgestellte, in Anf\u00fchrungsstrichen, Autorit\u00e4t oder zust\u00e4ndige Person, die jetzt sagt, soll ich oder soll ich nicht. Und damit kann vieles gemeint sein, aber es ist sozusagen nicht die Frage aus einer sicheren Position heraus, ich bin hier Mitarbeiter, was will ich denn, was m\u00f6chte ich, wie sch\u00e4tze ich die Situation ein und treffe eine Entscheidung. Ja, oder auch, was ist meine Rolle in diesem ganzen Konflikt? Habe ich da \u00fcberhaupt eine Rolle drin? Was ist meine Erwartung, meine Aufgabe, wenn ich diesen Konflikt von au\u00dfen so sehe? Und ganz oft habe ich ja auch pers\u00f6nliche Beziehungen vielleicht zu den Konfliktparteien. Also das kann ja auch passieren. Und dann habe ich auf ganz verschiedenen Ebenen unterschiedliche Fragestellungen, die mich halt nur wieder reinbringen, wie soll ich mich jetzt verhalten?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_45\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1958.25\" data-end-seconds=\"1971.73\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[32:38]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Okay, wir gucken gleich mal an, wo wir da einen Ma\u00dfstab herfinden. Wie erf\u00e4hrt man denn in typischer Weise oder was sind so Konstellationen, wo man in der Organisation Konflikte mitbekommt?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_46\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1973.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.91\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[32:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, also wenn ich da zum Beispiel im IT-Kontext schaue, man hat h\u00e4ufig diese sogenannten cross-funktionalen Teams, gerade im agilen Umfeld. Das bedeutet, Software- oder Entwicklungsteams sind aus unterschiedlichen Rollen zusammengestellt. Da sind wirklich Softwareentwickler dabei, da sind Tester dabei, UX-Experten dabei, da ist die Fachseite der Product Owner, Requirements Engineers, also unterschiedliche Disziplinen, die da zusammenkommen und die da in so Teams miteinander arbeiten an unterschiedlichen Featuren. Solche Teams gibt es da dann mehrfach nebeneinander. Und gleichzeitig packt man dann auch die Rollen, die \u00e4hnlich sind oder die gleich sind, auch nochmal in einzelne querschnittliche Teams oder in Gilden oder das gibt es ja unterschiedliche Bezeichnungen, je nachdem, was man da f\u00fcr Frameworks nutzt. Das hei\u00dft, man trifft dann zum Beispiel die Requirements Engineers aus allen Teams treffen sich mal immer oder die UX-Leute treffen sich dann. Und so erf\u00e4hrt man nat\u00fcrlich aus den anderen Teams, was ist da gerade los und wie arbeiten die miteinander. Und da wird nat\u00fcrlich auch mal gel\u00e4stert. Also das kommt dann ganz h\u00e4ufig dann auch dazu. Hey, guck mal, die Tester sind immer so, die stellen sich immer quer oder hey, die UX-Leute haben keine Ahnung und die halten uns immer nur auf. Also das ist ganz h\u00e4ufig so, dass dann da in diesen anderen Rollen und Gruppen dann auch nat\u00fcrlich gesprochen wird. und von Kantine sowieso. Also das sind so ganz typische Treffen, die man da hat, wo man sich einfach dann austauscht und von Dingen aus anderen Teams erf\u00e4hrt, ganz klar.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_47\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2054.59\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.89\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[34:14]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das w\u00e4re die Konstellation sozusagen aus der Beraterperspektive, wo man als potenzieller Koalition\u00e4r das erf\u00e4hrt. Man erf\u00e4hrt es sozusagen mit der Einladung, stimme mir zu, stimme uns zu. Du geh\u00f6rst ja mit zu uns. Genau, wenn man zur selben Gruppe geh\u00f6rt, auf jeden Fall.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_48\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2074.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2160.71\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[34:34]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und dort zu sagen, also sehe ich ganz anders, auf jeden Fall ein soziales Fass, was man aufmacht. Und man kann da nicht einfach dr\u00fcber weggehen. Wenn man sagen w\u00fcrde, ah ja, klar, wie immer, dann ist die Koalition geschmiedet. Wenn man Widerstand gibt, ist schon sozusagen ein Thema, was dann besprochen wird. Ja, und es ist die Frage, was macht das dann mit diesen verschiedenen Beziehungsebenen, die man ja hat. Zum einen zu den Kollegen, die die gleiche Profession vertreten wie ich selbst, aber auch zu den anderen Kollegen in dem Team, wo ich unterwegs bin. Also das erbte da auch nicht unbemerkt. Ich setze mal noch zwei andere Konstellationen, die ich sozusagen auch h\u00e4ufig h\u00f6re, die eine andere Tonlage haben. Man kriegt es in diesen Meetings mit, die ja auch im Tech-Bereich sehr engmaschig durchgef\u00fchrt werden. Und da kriegt man mit, oh, da gibt es Missstimmung. Und man ist sozusagen wirklich mehr so wie in der Zuschauerposition. Weil der eine sagt was zu dem, was er gerade vorne da vorgetragen hat und man kriegt mit, dass es schon eine pers\u00f6nliche Note hat. Und die zweite ganz \u00e4hnliche Situation ist, man wird in den E-Mail-Verteiler mitgesetzt und kriegt mit, oh ja, hier wird man als Zeuge gerade installiert, dass diese Mail geschrieben wurde. Und dann wei\u00df man sozusagen in der Organisation davon.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_49\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2162.21\" data-end-seconds=\"2180.01\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[36:02]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Aus deiner Erfahrung aus der Branche, Was ist da so die Verteilung, sage ich mal, die Quote, wenn man mal so, ich bin eher als Beobachter davon informiert worden und dort als potenzieller Koalition\u00e4r. Mir hat man das gesteckt und es ist irgendwie klar, wie ich reagieren soll.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_50\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2181.57\" data-end-seconds=\"2236.55\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[36:21]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, es ist schon h\u00e4ufiger, dass man in diesen Meeting-Situationen das nat\u00fcrlich mitbekommt oder eben dann in einem pers\u00f6nlichen Austausch. In vielen Aktivprojekten werden auch so Ticketsysteme nat\u00fcrlich verwendet, also viel Dokumentation auch in solchen Systemen abgelegt, um halt verteilt mit einem gro\u00dfen Team auch gut produktiv arbeiten zu k\u00f6nnen. Das hei\u00dft, das Sch\u00f6ne daran, das ist alles auch l\u00fcckenlos historisch nachvollziehbar. Manchmal, wer hat wann was geschrieben, wer hat wann was bearbeitet, wie lange bleibt was liegen, wer hat wie halt reagiert. Und da kann man dann auch richtig so forensisch t\u00e4tig werden und den Dingen auf den Grund gehen. Und diese Systeme sind ja f\u00fcr die meisten dann auch offen zug\u00e4nglich tats\u00e4chlich, um halt Transparenz zu haben, um auch schnell f\u00fcr andere einspringen zu k\u00f6nnen etc. Also das ist nur so eine andere Quelle, abseits von Meetings und E-Mails, die da genutzt wird, wo ich das alles auch schwarz auf wei\u00df sehen kann. Und das nat\u00fcrlich dann auch zur Beweisf\u00fchrung herangezogen werden kann, wenn es dann wirklich mal zu solchen Konflikten kommt.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007305\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[37:18]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Nicht retten, nicht verfolgen<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_51\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2238.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2314.38\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[37:18]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Unser Ratschlag dazu, beziehungsweise unser Tipp, den wir da den OrganisationsarbeiterInnen auch mitgeben, ich fasse mal so zusammen, rette nicht, verfolge nicht und opfere dich nicht auf. Genau, das ist immer bei diesen klassischen Perspektiven, Dramadreieck. Genau, aktiviere kein Dramadreieck. Ist ja f\u00fcr alle, die hier zuh\u00f6ren, wahrscheinlich Standard und kennen ja dann auch viele. Genau, gehe nicht in diese Rollen rein und spiele das Spiel nicht mit an der Stelle. Was aber dann auch bedeuten w\u00fcrde, zumindest das anzusprechen. Das haben wir ja auch gesagt, halte die Beziehung zumindest aufrecht. Das ist ja auch der andere Punkt, den wir gesagt haben. Zumindest zu sagen, ja, ich merke irgendwie, da ist gerade Spannung oder irgendwie irgendwas liegt da in der Luft. Aber auch dann zu sagen, ja, ich will auf der einen Seite nicht Partei ergreifen, aber ich will auch nicht so tun, als ob da nichts w\u00e4re. Also ich gucke jetzt auch nicht weg, sondern das schon so irgendwie bewusst anzusprechen und offen und klar zu machen, aber eben sich nicht in eine dieser drei Rollen zu begeben. Und da ist sozusagen meine Vermutung, aufgrund von Erfahrungen so, aber Vermutung im Sinne von, das ist richtig schwierig. Das f\u00e4llt vielen schwer, die Situation sozusagen erleben, dass sie sie anspringt, im Sinne von.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_52\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2315.37\" data-end-seconds=\"2394.55\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[38:35]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Da erz\u00e4hlt er mir, wie schlimm der behandelt wurde, da erz\u00e4hlt er mir, wie schlimm die anderen sind, was alles irgendwie ist und es ist ganz schwer, dann eben nicht in so eine Retterposition zu gehen oder den anderen zum Opfer zu machen oder eben den jetzt irgendwie recht zu geben und verfolgerecht zu sein und zu best\u00e4tigen, dass die anderen irgendwie unfair sind, sondern sich wirklich in Kontakt halten, aber eben nicht retten, nicht verfolgen und sich auch nicht aufopfern. Das ist im Arbeitsalltag, glaube ich, wirklich eine Herausforderung f\u00fcr Teammitglieder. Ja, ich glaube gerade auch dieses sich nicht aufopfern. Ich wei\u00df, es gibt immer so Menschen in so gr\u00f6\u00dferen Teams, die werden dann auch gern mal gefragt, ob sie nicht dann vermitteln k\u00f6nnen, weil sie irgendwie so eine Ader halt haben oder so eine Stimmung immer gut wahrnehmen k\u00f6nnen, weil sie vielleicht rhetorisch auch gut sind an der Stelle, weil sie vielleicht mit vielen gut k\u00f6nnen und sozial gut eingebettet sind. Die werden dann auch schnell mal geholt. Kannst du da nicht mal? Und mach doch mal. Du kannst es doch immer so gut. Das finde ich so gerade den gef\u00e4hrlichsten Part noch, wenn man dann gebeten wird, um dann zu sagen, ah nee, sehe ich mich jetzt hier gerade nicht an der Stelle, das zu tun. Obwohl ich also danke, dass du das vielleicht mir zutraust oder dass ich es so gesehen werde. aber das dann eben nicht zu machen an der Stelle.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_53\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2396.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2428.57\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[39:56]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und dabei verstehe ich auch vollkommen und wiederum braucht das eine Organisation auch, dass sich Menschen engagieren, wenn andere einen Konflikt haben, sozusagen nicht rumdrehen und weggehen und sagen, das ist euer Ding, ich will damit nichts zu tun haben, sondern den Kontakt halten und sich auch klar werden, wenn die es zu bunt treiben, kann ich und meine Kollegen nicht in Ruhe arbeiten. Also es gibt ja auch das eigene Interesse daran, dass die das da kl\u00e4ren.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_54\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2429.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2473.1\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[40:29]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Absolut. Das kostet ja Zeit und Energie, Fokus, Frist, Aufmerksamkeit. Also diese Kosten, die da entstehen, was dann auch in weniger Produktivit\u00e4t m\u00fcndet, vielleicht auch dann sp\u00e4ter in Ausfallzeiten und \u00e4hnliches mehr. Die sind ja real und existent. Und da sind wir wieder bei dem Anfang, wo wir gesagt haben, warum scheitern auch so viele IT-Projekte? Das ist dann eben nicht die Technologie. Das ist genau so ein typischer Fall. Ja, ich w\u00fcrde mal angesichts der Zeit sagen, wir belassen es dabei. Das wird aber sicherlich eine Diskussion sein und wir haben nat\u00fcrlich im Webinar n\u00e4chste Woche auch nur diese knappe Stunde Zeit. Aber ich glaube, wenn das die Kollegen mitnehmen, im Sinne von, ich soll nicht retten, nicht verfolgen, ich soll auch niemandem die Schuld geben.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_55\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2473.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2546.5\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[41:13]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Was soll ich denn jetzt tun? Im Sinne von Beziehungskontakt halten, aber nicht verurteilen, sich nicht verantwortlich machen. Da hat man schon gen\u00fcgend an Umsetzungsarbeit mit aus dem Webinar gebracht. Auf jeden Fall. Und die leichteste Antwort, dass wir dann schieben, ist einfach der F\u00fcgungskraft zu, soll die sich doch darum k\u00fcmmern. Das ist dann die dritte Gruppe, wo wir sagen k\u00f6nnen, hey, da kommen wir dann auch noch dazu, weil die sind ja vielleicht sogar organisatorisch daf\u00fcr zust\u00e4ndig und verantwortlich, dann sich solchen Themen anzunehmen. Genau, das m\u00fcssen wir vielleicht noch dazu sagen. Also diejenigen, die jetzt F\u00fchrungskraft sind, f\u00fcr die hilft der Tipp, den wir gerade behandeln, nicht. Nee. Das ist genau nicht ihre Rolle. Die beobachten vielleicht auch was, aber haben eine andere Rolle, ja. Ja, genau. Im Sinne von ja, die sollten auch nicht zu schnell verurteilen, die sollten auch nicht ihre Mitarbeiter retten und sich alles selbst aufhei\u00dfen. Nach dem Motto, ich kann ja auch nichts daf\u00fcr, dass ihr es so schwer habt. Ich muss die Arbeit ja irgendjemandem geben. Oder noch schlimmer, es selber machen dann in der Sonntagsarbeit. So eine F\u00fchrungskraft hat es auf jeden Fall mit einem Konflikt in einer Organisation, die unter Druck steht, nicht leicht. Aber&#8230;<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007306\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[42:27]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>F\u00fchrung braucht fr\u00fche Kl\u00e4rung<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_56\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2547.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2584.79\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[42:27]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das ist halt das Lernfeld, was sich die F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte rangeholt haben. Was ist ein guter Tipp f\u00fcr F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte? Was redest du in deiner Praxis und dann auch n\u00e4chste Woche mit dem Seminar f\u00fcr dich, sozusagen die erste Leitlinie? Also es gibt da verschiedene Dinge, die mir nat\u00fcrlich sofort einfallen, die man da nehmen kann. Zum einen nicht zu lange zu warten, also wenn Dinge irgendwie erstmal ignoriert werden oder liegen gelassen werden. Der Zeitfaktor macht es immer nur noch schlimmer an der Stelle. Oder sich dann fr\u00fchzeitig vielleicht auf eine Seite zu schlagen, nur mit einer Person, einer Konfliktpartei zu reden, mit der anderen irgendwie nicht. Also das macht es auch nur noch schlimmer.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_57\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2585.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2660.85\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[43:05]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Insofern w\u00e4re der erste Tipp da, fr\u00fchzeitig das Gespr\u00e4ch mit allen Beteiligten zu suchen und eben nicht zu lange zu warten und dann aber auch das Handwerkszeug zu haben, zu wissen, wie spreche ich das gut und professionell auch an. Also wie erkenne ich das zum einen und wie kann ich dann m\u00f6glichst schnell in eine produktive Ansprache gehen. Ja, das erlebe ich immer wieder als so schwierig f\u00fcr F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte im Alltag umzusetzen, obwohl der Rat oder der Tipp so einfach scheint. Also sprich mit beiden gleichzeitig in einem Raum, nicht nacheinander und sozusagen in so einer vermeintlichen Shuttle-Diplomatie oder eben drauf zu warten, der Montag, da kommt der wieder zu mir ins B\u00fcro, der andere kommt immer Freitag und \u00fcber diese Besuche wird dieser Konflikt rechnen. Reguliert, sondern holt die doch gemeinsam ran. Aber ich erlebe es und glaube das auch tats\u00e4chlich, auch mittlerweile auch aus eigener Erfahrung, das ist gar nicht so leicht, die Einzelgespr\u00e4che, die eben gar nicht unter dem Motto immer Konfliktkl\u00e4rung stehen, als das zu erkennen, was sie sind im Nachgang, n\u00e4mlich Einzelgespr\u00e4che, die zu nichts gef\u00fchrt haben, sondern einen Termin anzubauen mit den zwei Personen, die da im Clinch liegen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_58\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2662.69\" data-end-seconds=\"2693.95\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[44:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das ist halt ein Umweg. Das ist sozusagen, wenn man das macht, \u00e4hnlich wie Mediation, dann deklariert man auch, hier gibt es einen Konflikt, den zwei zu bearbeiten haben. Ist das das, wo du sagst, da gibt es eine Scheu davor? Ich w\u00fcrde vielleicht nicht sagen, unbedingt eine Scheu tats\u00e4chlich, aber wenn ich allein an so Terminkalender denke, und das haben wir vorhin ja auch schon gesprochen, wie dicht gepackt die halt sind bei allen Beteiligten, mit irgendwie vielen Meetings und Austauschen, Kundengespr\u00e4chen, was wei\u00df ich nicht alles.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_59\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2694.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2777.45\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[44:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Da ist manchmal gar nicht so viel Platz, spontan, ad hoc, m\u00f6glichst schnell ein Gespr\u00e4ch mit irgendwie zwei, drei, vier Personen anzuberaumen, dass die dann auch m\u00f6glichst irgendwie eine Stunde oder zwei Zeit haben, um sich so einem Thema zu widmen. Also da ist es eher die operative Frage, wo finde ich jetzt so schnell so einen Termin und wo ist da quasi mal Platz im Kalender bei allen Beteiligten, um das herbeizuf\u00fchren, weil da sind viele Themen so auf Kante gen\u00e4ht, so viele Termine aneinander geklebt, gerade jetzt mit den ganzen Online- und Remote-Arbeiten, was dazukommt, wird das ja bis in die Randzeiten auch ausgereizt und dann ist es schlicht eine Frage, wann soll ich das noch reinkriegen, wo ist da Platz daf\u00fcr. Die Scheu w\u00fcrde ich da nicht unbedingt z\u00e4hlen. Nicht sch\u00f6n. Und das kommt sicherlich noch dazu, das ist mir heute in der Mediation deutlich geworden, die Parteien, die haben mehrere Jahre schon sozusagen miteinander oder nebeneinander gearbeitet und was deutlich wurde, war da, als diese einzelnen Aktionen, die die eine Seite eskalierend erlebt hat und das sozusagen drauf reagiert hat, als die jeweils stattgefunden haben, war eben das Ganze, was danach noch erfolgte, noch nicht da gewesen, noch nicht Erfolg. Es ist sozusagen im Nachgang, in einer Mediation oder in einem Kl\u00e4rungsgespr\u00e4ch, dass eben die Spitze einer Eskalation ist, mit der Hoffnung, jetzt kann man das drehen, da passiert nat\u00fcrlich der klassische R\u00fcckschaufehler.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_60\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2778.85\" data-end-seconds=\"2790.13\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[46:18]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Man guckt sich die Situationen von damals an mit dem Wissen von heute, Und fragt, warum hast du denn damals nichts gesagt? Oder warum hast du denn damals diese Beschwerde eingereicht?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_61\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2792.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2851.81\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[46:32]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und kann nur noch schwer emotional die Perspektive einnehmen, das war ja damals noch nicht abzusch\u00e4tzen, wohin das f\u00fchrt. Na klar. Das ist ein spannender Punkt, genau das nochmal da auch bewusst rauszuhalten. Und da sind wir beim Ausgangspunkt. Die Dinge, die eskalierend gewirkt haben, hatten die Intention, die Eskalation zu verhindern. Sondern jetzt hier ein f\u00fcr alle Mal Schluss. Jetzt mache ich die Anzeige. Jetzt gehe ich zum Chef. Jetzt mache ich das. Und dann soll gut sein. Und das ist ja das mit Abstand betrachtet Paradoxe, dass die ganzen Eskalationshandlungen nicht die Absicht hatten zu eskalieren, sondern zu zeigen, ich bin bereit auch das zu tun, also lass es lieber bleiben. Lass den Widerstand, h\u00f6r auf, mach endlich das, was ich sage. Und es funktioniert nicht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_62\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2853.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2922.61\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[47:33]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Aber das w\u00e4re dann auch quasi die Aufgabe der F\u00fchrungskraft, wenn man die dann in so einem Gespr\u00e4ch sich vorstellt, eben auch genau das nicht zu tun, sondern eher versuchen, die Perspektiven dann nat\u00fcrlich schon mit reinzuholen und da ein St\u00fcck weit aufzukl\u00e4ren, aber eben dann eher konstruktiv nach vorne gerichtet dann auch zu gucken. Also was ist da genau der Fall? Welche Emotionen sind da irgendwie auch beteiligt? Aber was k\u00f6nnen dann auch die Beteiligten im Sinne von Verantwortung \u00fcbernehmen, dann auch konkret tun? Welche Vorschl\u00e4ge sind da im Raum? Also das ist dann schon auch die Aufgabe, w\u00fcrde ich sagen, der F\u00fchrungskraft, die dann genau mit den Beteiligten daran arbeiten muss. Das ist sozusagen das Gespr\u00e4ch, was dazu tritt, dann eingefordert wird, dass das nicht mit der L\u00f6sungsidee oder mit der L\u00f6sungsabsicht, nach dem Motto, jetzt reicht es mir, jetzt kommt er zu mir ins B\u00fcro und dann wird das gut sein, sondern eher in den Frage-Mottos kommen, also wirklich auch f\u00fcr sich innerlich einen Raum schaffen. Ich habe Fragen, wie kommt es, dass ihr das so macht? Weil wenn ihr das so macht, dann muss klar sein, dass das mit mir und meinen Vorstellungen, wie das hier l\u00e4uft, kontr\u00e4r geht. Also da kriegt ihr ein Problem mit mir.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_63\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2924.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2965.18\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[48:44]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und deshalb ist aber f\u00fcr mich eine fragende Haltung das Schwerste in einer Druck- und Konfliktsituation einzunehmen, aber genau das braucht es. Ja, weil die Erwartungshaltung ist ja h\u00e4ufig, dass die F\u00fchrungskraft eine Entscheidung trifft. Das ist ja bei ganz vielen solcher Konflikten dann der Fall. Dann geht man halt zum Vorgesetzten oder zur Vorgesetzten und sagt dann, entscheide du doch. Mir ist egal, ob links oder rechts rum, Hauptsache du entscheidest jetzt und dann machen wir das und wir halten uns irgendwie alle dran. Aber das seht nat\u00fcrlich auch noch mehr Unfrieden und macht keinen gl\u00fccklich. Das kennen wir ja auch alle an der Stelle. Und das dann bewusst nicht zu sagen, okay, ich treffe jetzt die Entscheidung nicht f\u00fcr euch, aber ich helfe euch dabei, eine L\u00f6sung zu finden.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_64\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2966.02\" data-end-seconds=\"3033.48\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[49:26]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, genau. Jedenfalls f\u00fcr den Bereich, in dem die Mitarbeiter eine eigenverantwortliche L\u00f6sung im Rahmen der Leitlinien und der Idee der F\u00fchrungskraft eben auch treffen d\u00fcrfen und auch sollen von der Organisation her. Er kann nicht sozusagen seine Verantwortung abgeben, sondern muss einen Raum schaffen, wo er das delegieren kann. Absolut. Der Rahmen muss gegeben sein, dass dann auch L\u00f6sungen m\u00f6glich sind. Das, was die F\u00fchrungskraft ja dann mitnehmen sollte, dann sind wir ja bei diesem dritten Tipp, ist dann eher zu schauen und zu hinterfragen, wie konnte es dazu kommen? Also was hat das Umfeld, was hat das System, die Organisation, was hat die dazu beigetragen, dass es so weit hat kommen k\u00f6nnen? Und was kann ich dann wiederum aus einer Gestalterperspektive als F\u00fchrungskraft heraus ver\u00e4ndern, um zuk\u00fcnftig sowas unwahrscheinlicher zu machen? Also das ist dann eher die Aufgabe, die man noch selber mitnehmen kann, zu sagen, das eine konkret l\u00f6sen dann die Beteiligten. Aber was kann ich als F\u00fchrungskraft mitnehmen? Wie kann ich die Organisation ver\u00e4ndern, das System ver\u00e4ndern, damit solche Konflikte unwahrscheinlicher werden?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_65\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"3035.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3096.13\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[50:35]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Genau, beziehungsweise fruchtbar bearbeitet werden. Wir sind ja ja selber in der Paradoxie drin, dass wir auf der einen Seite Konflikte willkommen hei\u00dfen, weil sie Kl\u00e4rung versprechen, Kl\u00e4rung einfordern, aber eben auch ank\u00fcndigen und auf der anderen Seite sollen sie weggehen und gar nicht da sein, weil sie doch auch hinderlich erlebt werden. Ich glaube, dieses Spannungsfeld, was Konflikte f\u00fcr Auswirkungen haben oder was sie f\u00fcr eine Funktion auch haben, da kommt es darauf an, in der Konfliktbearbeitung das beizubehalten. Dass es sowohl als auch ist und die Frage, wie reguliere ich sie, praktisch die entscheidende Frage ist. Nicht, wie geht es weg, wie geht es sozusagen, dass ich mich auf eine Seite schlage, sondern dass ich den Konflikt als existentes sozialen Modus von Kommunikation akzeptiere und manchmal hochregulieren muss, manchmal wieder runterregulieren muss. Es hat eine bestimmte Funktion.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007307\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[51:36]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Konflikte als Resilienzfaktor<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_66\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"3097.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3123.53\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[51:37]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das ist f\u00fcr F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte, glaube ich, die Blickrichtung. Und das ist ja dann genau auch der Br\u00fcckenschlag zur Resilienz, wo wir genau da sind, wie du gesagt hast, wenn wir davon ausgehen, Konflikte geh\u00f6ren dazu und ich muss damit umgehen, muss die regulieren, nach oben, nach unten damit arbeiten k\u00f6nnen, dann macht mich das ja genau als Person zum einen, aber auch als Team, als Organisation resilienter im Umgang mit solchen Situationen, die ja immer wieder vorkommen werden. Davon ist ja auszugehen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_67\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"3125.46\" data-end-seconds=\"3178.86\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"52:05.460 - 52:58.860\">[52:05]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:05.460 - 52:05.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3125.46\" data-end-seconds=\"3125.76\" data-confidence=\"1\">Frank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:05.960 - 52:06.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3125.96\" data-end-seconds=\"3126.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:06.080 - 52:06.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3126.08\" data-end-seconds=\"3126.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> w\u00fcrde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:06.220 - 52:06.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3126.22\" data-end-seconds=\"3126.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:06.400 - 52:07.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3126.4\" data-end-seconds=\"3127.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:07.320 - 52:07.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3127.32\" data-end-seconds=\"3127.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Cliffhanger<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:07.880 - 52:08.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3127.88\" data-end-seconds=\"3128.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:08.740 - 52:09.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3128.74\" data-end-seconds=\"3129.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:09.800 - 52:10.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3129.8\" data-end-seconds=\"3130.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:10.100 - 52:10.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3130.1\" data-end-seconds=\"3130.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sparen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:10.760 - 52:10.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3130.76\" data-end-seconds=\"3130.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:10.940 - 52:11.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3130.94\" data-end-seconds=\"3131.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jetzt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:11.160 - 52:11.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3131.16\" data-end-seconds=\"3131.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:11.340 - 52:11.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3131.34\" data-end-seconds=\"3131.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Perspektive<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:11.960 - 52:12.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3131.96\" data-end-seconds=\"3132.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_0_15\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:12.120 - 52:12.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3132.12\" data-end-seconds=\"3132.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Organisation.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:14.060 - 52:14.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3134.06\" data-end-seconds=\"3134.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:14.500 - 52:14.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3134.5\" data-end-seconds=\"3134.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Lust<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:14.860 - 52:15.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3134.86\" data-end-seconds=\"3135.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:15.200 - 52:15.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3135.2\" data-end-seconds=\"3135.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:15.380 - 52:15.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3135.38\" data-end-seconds=\"3135.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:15.580 - 52:15.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3135.58\" data-end-seconds=\"3135.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:15.800 - 52:17.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3135.8\" data-end-seconds=\"3137\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Seminar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:17.000 - 52:17.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3137\" data-end-seconds=\"3137.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chste<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:17.280 - 52:17.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3137.28\" data-end-seconds=\"3137.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Woche<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:17.540 - 52:17.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3137.54\" data-end-seconds=\"3137.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:17.720 - 52:18.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3137.72\" data-end-seconds=\"3138.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anh\u00f6ren.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:19.080 - 52:19.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3139.08\" data-end-seconds=\"3139.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:19.160 - 52:19.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3139.16\" data-end-seconds=\"3139.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> werden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:19.420 - 52:19.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3139.42\" data-end-seconds=\"3139.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:19.740 - 52:20.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3139.74\" data-end-seconds=\"3140.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Link<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:20.020 - 52:20.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3140.02\" data-end-seconds=\"3140.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:20.280 - 52:20.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3140.28\" data-end-seconds=\"3140.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:20.480 - 52:20.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3140.48\" data-end-seconds=\"3140.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:20.620 - 52:21.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3140.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3141.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Shownotes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:21.180 - 52:21.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3141.18\" data-end-seconds=\"3141.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> stellen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:21.800 - 52:21.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3141.8\" data-end-seconds=\"3141.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:21.900 - 52:22.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3141.9\" data-end-seconds=\"3142.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kriegen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:22.100 - 52:22.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3142.1\" data-end-seconds=\"3142.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:22.280 - 52:22.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3142.28\" data-end-seconds=\"3142.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bestimmt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:22.620 - 52:23.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3142.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3143.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> rechtzeitig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:23.160 - 52:23.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3143.16\" data-end-seconds=\"3143.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hin,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:23.380 - 52:23.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3143.38\" data-end-seconds=\"3143.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:23.460 - 52:23.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3143.46\" data-end-seconds=\"3143.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:23.780 - 52:25.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3143.78\" data-end-seconds=\"3145.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Episode<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:25.060 - 52:25.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3145.06\" data-end-seconds=\"3145.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:25.560 - 52:25.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3145.56\" data-end-seconds=\"3145.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:25.880 - 52:26.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3145.88\" data-end-seconds=\"3146.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Auswirkungen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:26.620 - 52:27.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3146.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3147.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:27.680 - 52:28.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3147.68\" data-end-seconds=\"3148.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:28.040 - 52:28.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3148.04\" data-end-seconds=\"3148.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> will,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:28.340 - 52:28.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3148.34\" data-end-seconds=\"3148.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:28.460 - 52:29.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3148.46\" data-end-seconds=\"3149.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazukommen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:29.120 - 52:29.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3149.12\" data-end-seconds=\"3149.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:29.200 - 52:29.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3149.2\" data-end-seconds=\"3149.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:29.320 - 52:29.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3149.32\" data-end-seconds=\"3149.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:29.420 - 52:29.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3149.42\" data-end-seconds=\"3149.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:29.540 - 52:30.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3149.54\" data-end-seconds=\"3150.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> offenes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:30.060 - 52:31.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3150.06\" data-end-seconds=\"3151.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Seminar.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:31.800 - 52:31.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3151.8\" data-end-seconds=\"3151.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Beim<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:31.940 - 52:32.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3151.94\" data-end-seconds=\"3152.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> letzten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:32.140 - 52:32.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3152.14\" data-end-seconds=\"3152.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:32.260 - 52:32.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3152.26\" data-end-seconds=\"3152.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> waren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:32.460 - 52:32.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3152.46\" data-end-seconds=\"3152.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:32.620 - 52:32.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3152.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3152.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> glaube<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:32.700 - 52:32.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3152.7\" data-end-seconds=\"3152.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:32.960 - 52:33.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3152.96\" data-end-seconds=\"3153.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> 160<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:33.620 - 52:34.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3153.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3154.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Teilnehmer.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:34.900 - 52:35.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3154.9\" data-end-seconds=\"3155.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:35.440 - 52:35.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3155.44\" data-end-seconds=\"3155.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mehreren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:35.860 - 52:36.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3155.86\" data-end-seconds=\"3156.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ank\u00fcndigungen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:36.600 - 52:37.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3156.6\" data-end-seconds=\"3157.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:37.020 - 52:37.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3157.02\" data-end-seconds=\"3157.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Rate<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:37.580 - 52:37.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3157.58\" data-end-seconds=\"3157.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:37.800 - 52:38.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3157.8\" data-end-seconds=\"3158.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:38.040 - 52:38.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3158.04\" data-end-seconds=\"3158.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anwesenden,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:39.180 - 52:39.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3159.18\" data-end-seconds=\"3159.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:39.360 - 52:40.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3159.36\" data-end-seconds=\"3160.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Angek\u00fcndigten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:40.240 - 52:40.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3160.24\" data-end-seconds=\"3160.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:40.500 - 52:40.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3160.5\" data-end-seconds=\"3160.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nat\u00fcrlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:40.860 - 52:41.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3160.86\" data-end-seconds=\"3161.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:41.560 - 52:41.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3161.56\" data-end-seconds=\"3161.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dort<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:41.840 - 52:42.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3161.84\" data-end-seconds=\"3162.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vorhanden.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:42.820 - 52:43.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3162.82\" data-end-seconds=\"3163.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:43.220 - 52:43.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3163.22\" data-end-seconds=\"3163.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:43.340 - 52:43.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3163.34\" data-end-seconds=\"3163.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> waren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:43.580 - 52:43.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3163.58\" data-end-seconds=\"3163.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:43.780 - 52:44.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3163.78\" data-end-seconds=\"3164.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> doch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:44.060 - 52:44.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3164.06\" data-end-seconds=\"3164.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:44.340 - 52:44.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3164.34\" data-end-seconds=\"3164.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirklich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:44.680 - 52:44.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3164.68\" data-end-seconds=\"3164.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:45.060 - 52:45.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3165.06\" data-end-seconds=\"3165.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:45.160 - 52:45.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3165.16\" data-end-seconds=\"3165.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> viele<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:45.440 - 52:45.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3165.44\" data-end-seconds=\"3165.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:46.160 - 52:46.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3166.16\" data-end-seconds=\"3166.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:46.840 - 52:47.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3166.84\" data-end-seconds=\"3167.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:47.100 - 52:47.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3167.1\" data-end-seconds=\"3167.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Lust<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:47.320 - 52:47.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3167.32\" data-end-seconds=\"3167.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:47.980 - 52:48.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3167.98\" data-end-seconds=\"3168.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:48.080 - 52:49.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3168.08\" data-end-seconds=\"3169.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> euch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:49.040 - 52:49.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3169.04\" data-end-seconds=\"3169.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zuh\u00f6renden,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:49.960 - 52:50.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3169.96\" data-end-seconds=\"3170.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:50.880 - 52:51.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3170.88\" data-end-seconds=\"3171.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bitkom<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:51.300 - 52:51.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3171.3\" data-end-seconds=\"3171.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Akademie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:51.960 - 52:53.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3171.96\" data-end-seconds=\"3173\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erm\u00f6glicht,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:53.260 - 52:53.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3173.26\" data-end-seconds=\"3173.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dort<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:53.260 - 52:53.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3173.26\" data-end-seconds=\"3173.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:53.900 - 52:54.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3173.9\" data-end-seconds=\"3174.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> freien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:54.480 - 52:55.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3174.48\" data-end-seconds=\"3175.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zutritt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:55.720 - 52:56.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3175.72\" data-end-seconds=\"3176.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Genau.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:56.280 - 52:56.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3176.28\" data-end-seconds=\"3176.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:58.420 - 52:58.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3178.42\" data-end-seconds=\"3178.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sch\u00f6n<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_67_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"52:58.640 - 52:58.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3178.64\" data-end-seconds=\"3178.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> cool.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_68\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"3180.64\" data-end-seconds=\"3233.34\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"53:00.640 - 53:53.340\">[53:00]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:00.640 - 53:01.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3180.64\" data-end-seconds=\"3181.04\" data-confidence=\"1\">Frank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:01.040 - 53:01.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3181.04\" data-end-seconds=\"3181.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:01.440 - 53:01.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3181.44\" data-end-seconds=\"3181.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:01.560 - 53:01.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3181.56\" data-end-seconds=\"3181.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:01.620 - 53:01.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3181.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3181.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:01.760 - 53:01.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3181.76\" data-end-seconds=\"3181.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:01.920 - 53:02.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3181.92\" data-end-seconds=\"3182.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:02.420 - 53:02.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3182.42\" data-end-seconds=\"3182.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:02.660 - 53:02.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3182.66\" data-end-seconds=\"3182.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:02.760 - 53:03.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3182.76\" data-end-seconds=\"3183.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:03.220 - 53:03.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3183.22\" data-end-seconds=\"3183.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Seminar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:03.520 - 53:03.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3183.52\" data-end-seconds=\"3183.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jetzt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:03.660 - 53:03.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3183.66\" data-end-seconds=\"3183.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:03.820 - 53:04.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3183.82\" data-end-seconds=\"3184.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> fast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_0_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:04.140 - 53:04.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3184.14\" data-end-seconds=\"3184.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vorbereitet.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:05.720 - 53:06.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3185.72\" data-end-seconds=\"3186.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> So<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:06.120 - 53:06.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3186.12\" data-end-seconds=\"3186.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:06.520 - 53:06.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3186.52\" data-end-seconds=\"3186.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:06.620 - 53:06.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3186.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3186.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:06.700 - 53:06.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3186.7\" data-end-seconds=\"3186.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eigentlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:06.900 - 53:07.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3186.9\" data-end-seconds=\"3187.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:07.180 - 53:07.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3187.18\" data-end-seconds=\"3187.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durchgehen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:07.720 - 53:07.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3187.72\" data-end-seconds=\"3187.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:07.780 - 53:07.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3187.78\" data-end-seconds=\"3187.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> finde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:07.900 - 53:08.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3187.9\" data-end-seconds=\"3188.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:08.020 - 53:08.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3188.02\" data-end-seconds=\"3188.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:08.140 - 53:08.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3188.14\" data-end-seconds=\"3188.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sch\u00f6nen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:08.360 - 53:08.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3188.36\" data-end-seconds=\"3188.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> roten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:08.660 - 53:08.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3188.66\" data-end-seconds=\"3188.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Faden,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:08.940 - 53:09.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3188.94\" data-end-seconds=\"3189.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:09.060 - 53:09.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3189.06\" data-end-seconds=\"3189.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:09.180 - 53:09.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3189.18\" data-end-seconds=\"3189.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diesen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:09.340 - 53:10.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3189.34\" data-end-seconds=\"3190.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Perspektiven.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:10.380 - 53:10.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3190.38\" data-end-seconds=\"3190.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:10.780 - 53:10.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3190.78\" data-end-seconds=\"3190.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:10.980 - 53:11.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3190.98\" data-end-seconds=\"3191.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:11.160 - 53:11.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3191.16\" data-end-seconds=\"3191.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nochmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:11.340 - 53:11.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3191.34\" data-end-seconds=\"3191.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:11.680 - 53:12.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3191.68\" data-end-seconds=\"3192.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> konkrete<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:12.120 - 53:12.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3192.12\" data-end-seconds=\"3192.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dinge<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:12.340 - 53:12.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3192.34\" data-end-seconds=\"3192.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> an<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:12.780 - 53:12.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3192.78\" data-end-seconds=\"3192.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:12.880 - 53:13.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3192.88\" data-end-seconds=\"3193.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hand.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:13.460 - 53:13.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3193.46\" data-end-seconds=\"3193.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Finde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:13.860 - 53:13.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3193.86\" data-end-seconds=\"3193.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:13.940 - 53:14.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3193.94\" data-end-seconds=\"3194.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> super.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:14.700 - 53:15.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3194.7\" data-end-seconds=\"3195.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:15.100 - 53:15.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3195.1\" data-end-seconds=\"3195.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:15.220 - 53:15.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3195.22\" data-end-seconds=\"3195.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:15.320 - 53:15.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3195.32\" data-end-seconds=\"3195.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:15.440 - 53:15.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3195.44\" data-end-seconds=\"3195.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:15.620 - 53:15.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3195.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3195.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:16.320 - 53:16.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3196.32\" data-end-seconds=\"3196.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:16.520 - 53:16.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3196.52\" data-end-seconds=\"3196.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcberlegen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:16.880 - 53:16.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3196.88\" data-end-seconds=\"3196.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:16.960 - 53:17.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3196.96\" data-end-seconds=\"3197.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:17.040 - 53:17.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3197.04\" data-end-seconds=\"3197.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielleicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:17.200 - 53:17.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3197.2\" data-end-seconds=\"3197.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:17.380 - 53:17.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3197.38\" data-end-seconds=\"3197.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ende<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:17.600 - 53:17.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3197.6\" data-end-seconds=\"3197.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_4_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:17.760 - 53:17.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3197.76\" data-end-seconds=\"3197.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:17.940 - 53:18.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3197.94\" data-end-seconds=\"3198.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:18.200 - 53:18.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3198.2\" data-end-seconds=\"3198.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mitgeben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:18.920 - 53:19.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3198.92\" data-end-seconds=\"3199.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:19.540 - 53:19.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3199.54\" data-end-seconds=\"3199.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:19.680 - 53:20.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3199.68\" data-end-seconds=\"3200.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Abschluss.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:20.180 - 53:20.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3200.18\" data-end-seconds=\"3200.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:20.420 - 53:21.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3200.42\" data-end-seconds=\"3201.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jetzt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:21.020 - 53:21.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3201.02\" data-end-seconds=\"3201.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> h\u00f6rt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:21.200 - 53:21.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3201.2\" data-end-seconds=\"3201.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:21.340 - 53:21.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3201.34\" data-end-seconds=\"3201.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:21.600 - 53:21.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3201.6\" data-end-seconds=\"3201.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:21.800 - 53:21.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3201.8\" data-end-seconds=\"3201.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:21.960 - 53:22.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3201.96\" data-end-seconds=\"3202.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:22.040 - 53:22.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3202.04\" data-end-seconds=\"3202.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:22.200 - 53:22.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3202.2\" data-end-seconds=\"3202.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:22.360 - 53:22.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3202.36\" data-end-seconds=\"3202.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:22.480 - 53:22.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3202.48\" data-end-seconds=\"3202.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> guten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:22.720 - 53:23.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3202.72\" data-end-seconds=\"3203.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tipp<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:23.020 - 53:23.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3203.02\" data-end-seconds=\"3203.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:23.240 - 53:23.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3203.24\" data-end-seconds=\"3203.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_6_15\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:23.380 - 53:23.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3203.38\" data-end-seconds=\"3203.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> h\u00e4tte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:23.520 - 53:23.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3203.52\" data-end-seconds=\"3203.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:23.620 - 53:23.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3203.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3203.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:23.760 - 53:23.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3203.76\" data-end-seconds=\"3203.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:23.860 - 53:24.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3203.86\" data-end-seconds=\"3204.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besseren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:24.240 - 53:24.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3204.24\" data-end-seconds=\"3204.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tipp,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:25.020 - 53:25.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3205.02\" data-end-seconds=\"3205.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:25.420 - 53:25.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3205.42\" data-end-seconds=\"3205.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schreibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:25.980 - 53:26.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3205.98\" data-end-seconds=\"3206.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:26.140 - 53:26.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3206.14\" data-end-seconds=\"3206.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:26.940 - 53:27.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3206.94\" data-end-seconds=\"3207.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:27.200 - 53:28.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3207.2\" data-end-seconds=\"3208.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:28.360 - 53:28.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3208.36\" data-end-seconds=\"3208.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nehmen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:28.840 - 53:29.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3208.84\" data-end-seconds=\"3209.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:29.020 - 53:29.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3209.02\" data-end-seconds=\"3209.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:29.280 - 53:29.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3209.28\" data-end-seconds=\"3209.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:29.440 - 53:30.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3209.44\" data-end-seconds=\"3210.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:30.120 - 53:30.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3210.12\" data-end-seconds=\"3210.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kommentaren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:30.660 - 53:30.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3210.66\" data-end-seconds=\"3210.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:30.820 - 53:30.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3210.82\" data-end-seconds=\"3210.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:30.920 - 53:31.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3210.92\" data-end-seconds=\"3211.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Webseite<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:31.420 - 53:31.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3211.42\" data-end-seconds=\"3211.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:31.880 - 53:32.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3211.88\" data-end-seconds=\"3212.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schreibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:32.760 - 53:32.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3212.76\" data-end-seconds=\"3212.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:32.920 - 53:33.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3212.92\" data-end-seconds=\"3213.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> per<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_8_15\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:33.100 - 53:33.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3213.1\" data-end-seconds=\"3213.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> E-Mail.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:33.760 - 53:34.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3213.76\" data-end-seconds=\"3214.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:34.240 - 53:34.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3214.24\" data-end-seconds=\"3214.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> w\u00fcrdet<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:34.560 - 53:34.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3214.56\" data-end-seconds=\"3214.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihr,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:35.120 - 53:35.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3215.12\" data-end-seconds=\"3215.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:35.220 - 53:35.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3215.22\" data-end-seconds=\"3215.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:35.320 - 53:35.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3215.32\" data-end-seconds=\"3215.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:35.520 - 53:35.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3215.52\" data-end-seconds=\"3215.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:35.980 - 53:36.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3215.98\" data-end-seconds=\"3216.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:36.180 - 53:36.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3216.18\" data-end-seconds=\"3216.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zwei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:36.680 - 53:37.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3216.68\" data-end-seconds=\"3217.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tipps<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:37.180 - 53:37.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3217.18\" data-end-seconds=\"3217.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:37.480 - 53:38.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3217.48\" data-end-seconds=\"3218.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> d\u00fcrftet,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:38.240 - 53:38.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3218.24\" data-end-seconds=\"3218.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ganz<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:38.480 - 53:39.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3218.48\" data-end-seconds=\"3219.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> praktisch,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:39.440 - 53:39.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3219.44\" data-end-seconds=\"3219.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> an<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:39.880 - 53:40.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3219.88\" data-end-seconds=\"3220.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Teammitglieder,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:40.620 - 53:40.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3220.62\" data-end-seconds=\"3220.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> an<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:40.720 - 53:41.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3220.72\" data-end-seconds=\"3221.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> F\u00fchrungskr\u00e4fte,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:42.100 - 53:42.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3222.1\" data-end-seconds=\"3222.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> an<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:42.520 - 53:43.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3222.52\" data-end-seconds=\"3223.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konfliktparteien,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:44.120 - 53:44.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3224.12\" data-end-seconds=\"3224.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:44.800 - 53:45.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3224.8\" data-end-seconds=\"3225.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:45.540 - 53:46.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3225.54\" data-end-seconds=\"3226.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> euer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_10_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:46.140 - 53:47.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3226.14\" data-end-seconds=\"3227.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Favorite,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:47.940 - 53:48.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3227.94\" data-end-seconds=\"3228.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:48.700 - 53:49.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3228.7\" data-end-seconds=\"3229.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:49.160 - 53:50.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3229.16\" data-end-seconds=\"3230.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mitgebt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:50.880 - 53:51.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3230.88\" data-end-seconds=\"3231\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:51.000 - 53:51.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3231\" data-end-seconds=\"3231.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jemand<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:51.360 - 53:51.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3231.36\" data-end-seconds=\"3231.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> euch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_11_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:51.700 - 53:52.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3231.7\" data-end-seconds=\"3232.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dort<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_68_11_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:52.520 - 53:53.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3232.52\" data-end-seconds=\"3233.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anfragt?<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_69\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"3235.01\" data-end-seconds=\"3299.25\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"53:55.010 - 54:59.250\">[53:55]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:55.010 - 53:55.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3235.01\" data-end-seconds=\"3235.21\" data-confidence=\"1\">Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:55.210 - 53:55.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3235.21\" data-end-seconds=\"3235.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:55.330 - 53:55.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3235.33\" data-end-seconds=\"3235.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:55.410 - 53:55.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3235.41\" data-end-seconds=\"3235.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> super<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:55.610 - 53:55.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3235.61\" data-end-seconds=\"3235.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Einleitung.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:56.150 - 53:56.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3236.15\" data-end-seconds=\"3236.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Genau,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:56.390 - 53:56.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3236.39\" data-end-seconds=\"3236.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:56.450 - 53:56.590, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3236.45\" data-end-seconds=\"3236.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:56.590 - 53:56.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3236.59\" data-end-seconds=\"3236.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:56.690 - 53:56.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3236.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3236.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:56.810 - 53:57.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3236.81\" data-end-seconds=\"3237.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nochmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:57.110 - 53:58.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3237.11\" data-end-seconds=\"3238.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zusammentragen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:58.630 - 53:59.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3238.63\" data-end-seconds=\"3239.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zusammensammeln,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"53:59.750 - 54:00.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3239.75\" data-end-seconds=\"3240.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> welche<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:00.170 - 54:00.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3240.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3240.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Erfahrungen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:00.670 - 54:00.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3240.67\" data-end-seconds=\"3240.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:00.830 - 54:01.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3240.83\" data-end-seconds=\"3241.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemacht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:01.090 - 54:01.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3241.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3241.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wurden.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:01.450 - 54:01.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3241.45\" data-end-seconds=\"3241.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:01.570 - 54:01.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3241.57\" data-end-seconds=\"3241.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:01.650 - 54:01.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3241.65\" data-end-seconds=\"3241.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gut.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:03.110 - 54:03.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3243.11\" data-end-seconds=\"3243.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Okay.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:04.370 - 54:04.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3244.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3244.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sch\u00f6n.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:05.290 - 54:05.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3245.29\" data-end-seconds=\"3245.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:06.510 - 54:06.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3246.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3246.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> danke,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:07.350 - 54:07.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3247.35\" data-end-seconds=\"3247.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:07.510 - 54:07.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3247.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3247.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:07.730 - 54:08.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3247.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3248.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:08.710 - 54:09.590, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3248.71\" data-end-seconds=\"3249.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:09.590 - 54:09.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3249.59\" data-end-seconds=\"3249.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dabei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:09.870 - 54:10.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3249.87\" data-end-seconds=\"3250.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> warst,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:10.190 - 54:10.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3250.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3250.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> obwohl<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:10.490 - 54:10.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3250.49\" data-end-seconds=\"3250.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:10.790 - 54:11.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3250.79\" data-end-seconds=\"3251.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_2_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:11.170 - 54:11.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3251.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3251.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> um<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:11.750 - 54:12.130, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3251.75\" data-end-seconds=\"3252.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> neue<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:12.130 - 54:12.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3252.13\" data-end-seconds=\"3252.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technologien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:12.890 - 54:13.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3252.89\" data-end-seconds=\"3253.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ging.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:13.930 - 54:14.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3253.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3254.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Diesmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:14.450 - 54:14.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3254.45\" data-end-seconds=\"3254.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:14.630 - 54:14.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3254.63\" data-end-seconds=\"3254.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:14.770 - 54:15.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3254.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3255.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> am<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:15.210 - 54:15.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3255.21\" data-end-seconds=\"3255.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Rande<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:15.510 - 54:15.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3255.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3255.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tats\u00e4chlich.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:16.190 - 54:16.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3256.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3256.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:16.330 - 54:16.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3256.33\" data-end-seconds=\"3256.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:16.430 - 54:16.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3256.43\" data-end-seconds=\"3256.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:16.770 - 54:16.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3256.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3256.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sieht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:16.970 - 54:17.130, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3256.97\" data-end-seconds=\"3257.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:17.190 - 54:17.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3257.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3257.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:17.330 - 54:17.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3257.33\" data-end-seconds=\"3257.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Feld<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:17.610 - 54:18.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3257.61\" data-end-seconds=\"3258.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:18.410 - 54:18.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3258.41\" data-end-seconds=\"3258.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:18.610 - 54:18.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3258.61\" data-end-seconds=\"3258.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:18.750 - 54:18.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3258.75\" data-end-seconds=\"3258.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:18.870 - 54:19.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3258.87\" data-end-seconds=\"3259.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> macht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:19.030 - 54:19.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3259.03\" data-end-seconds=\"3259.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> genauso<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:19.330 - 54:19.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3259.33\" data-end-seconds=\"3259.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Spa\u00df.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:19.990 - 54:20.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3259.99\" data-end-seconds=\"3260.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Insofern<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:20.450 - 54:20.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3260.45\" data-end-seconds=\"3260.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> danke<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:20.690 - 54:20.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3260.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3260.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:20.890 - 54:20.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3260.89\" data-end-seconds=\"3260.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:20.990 - 54:21.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3260.99\" data-end-seconds=\"3261.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Einladung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:21.390 - 54:21.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3261.39\" data-end-seconds=\"3261.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:21.630 - 54:21.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3261.63\" data-end-seconds=\"3261.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:21.930 - 54:22.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3261.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3262.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> freue<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:22.090 - 54:22.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3262.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3262.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:22.230 - 54:22.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3262.23\" data-end-seconds=\"3262.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:22.370 - 54:22.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3262.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3262.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unser<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:22.570 - 54:22.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3262.57\" data-end-seconds=\"3262.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Seminar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:22.930 - 54:23.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3262.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3263.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zusammen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:23.290 - 54:23.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3263.29\" data-end-seconds=\"3263.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:23.370 - 54:23.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3263.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3263.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:23.490 - 54:23.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3263.49\" data-end-seconds=\"3263.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> richtig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:23.750 - 54:23.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3263.75\" data-end-seconds=\"3263.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> toll.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:23.990 - 54:24.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3263.99\" data-end-seconds=\"3264.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:25.250 - 54:25.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3265.25\" data-end-seconds=\"3265.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:25.410 - 54:25.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3265.41\" data-end-seconds=\"3265.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chste<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:25.730 - 54:25.950, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3265.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3265.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Woche.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:26.470 - 54:26.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3266.47\" data-end-seconds=\"3266.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:26.730 - 54:26.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3266.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3266.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> reden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:26.970 - 54:27.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3266.97\" data-end-seconds=\"3267.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nochmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:27.170 - 54:28.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3267.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3268.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> miteinander<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:28.390 - 54:29.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3268.39\" data-end-seconds=\"3269.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vorher.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:29.970 - 54:30.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3269.97\" data-end-seconds=\"3270.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:30.230 - 54:30.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3270.23\" data-end-seconds=\"3270.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sch\u00f6n,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:30.870 - 54:30.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3270.87\" data-end-seconds=\"3270.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:30.970 - 54:31.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3270.97\" data-end-seconds=\"3271.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:31.210 - 54:32.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3271.21\" data-end-seconds=\"3272.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:32.050 - 54:32.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3272.05\" data-end-seconds=\"3272.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:32.170 - 54:32.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3272.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3272.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bisschen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:32.330 - 54:32.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3272.33\" data-end-seconds=\"3272.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Einblick<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:32.830 - 54:33.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3272.83\" data-end-seconds=\"3273.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:33.090 - 54:33.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3273.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3273.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> konnten,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:33.690 - 54:33.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3273.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3273.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:33.930 - 54:34.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3273.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3274.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:34.510 - 54:35.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3274.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3275.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vorgehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:35.150 - 54:35.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3275.15\" data-end-seconds=\"3275.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:35.830 - 54:36.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3275.83\" data-end-seconds=\"3276.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:36.050 - 54:36.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3276.05\" data-end-seconds=\"3276.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:36.690 - 54:36.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3276.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3276.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:36.830 - 54:37.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3276.83\" data-end-seconds=\"3277.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Branche<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:37.190 - 54:37.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3277.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3277.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:37.390 - 54:37.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3277.39\" data-end-seconds=\"3277.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_10_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:37.530 - 54:37.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3277.53\" data-end-seconds=\"3277.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erfahren,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:38.030 - 54:38.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3278.03\" data-end-seconds=\"3278.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:38.570 - 54:38.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3278.57\" data-end-seconds=\"3278.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:38.770 - 54:38.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3278.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3278.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:38.910 - 54:39.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3278.91\" data-end-seconds=\"3279.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirklich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:39.270 - 54:40.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3279.27\" data-end-seconds=\"3280.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:40.030 - 54:40.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3280.03\" data-end-seconds=\"3280.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Arbeitsgebiet<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:40.850 - 54:41.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3280.85\" data-end-seconds=\"3281.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:41.090 - 54:41.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3281.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3281.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:41.410 - 54:41.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3281.41\" data-end-seconds=\"3281.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:41.770 - 54:42.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3281.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3282.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:42.070 - 54:43.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3282.07\" data-end-seconds=\"3283.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Organisation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:43.990 - 54:44.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3283.99\" data-end-seconds=\"3284.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_11_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:44.550 - 54:44.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3284.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3284.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:44.790 - 54:45.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3284.79\" data-end-seconds=\"3285.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:45.070 - 54:45.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3285.07\" data-end-seconds=\"3285.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihre<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:45.430 - 54:46.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3285.43\" data-end-seconds=\"3286.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Spezifika<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:46.630 - 54:47.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3286.63\" data-end-seconds=\"3287.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:47.110 - 54:47.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3287.11\" data-end-seconds=\"3287.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:47.190 - 54:47.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3287.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3287.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:47.290 - 54:47.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3287.29\" data-end-seconds=\"3287.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:47.450 - 54:47.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3287.45\" data-end-seconds=\"3287.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anderen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:47.810 - 54:48.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3287.81\" data-end-seconds=\"3288.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Organisationen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_12_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:48.670 - 54:49.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3288.67\" data-end-seconds=\"3289.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unterscheidet.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:49.230 - 54:50.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3289.23\" data-end-seconds=\"3290.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:50.190 - 54:50.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3290.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3290.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> daher<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:50.470 - 54:50.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3290.47\" data-end-seconds=\"3290.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:50.750 - 54:50.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3290.75\" data-end-seconds=\"3290.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:51.290 - 54:51.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3291.29\" data-end-seconds=\"3291.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:51.710 - 54:51.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3291.71\" data-end-seconds=\"3291.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:51.850 - 54:52.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3291.85\" data-end-seconds=\"3292.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:52.010 - 54:52.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3292.01\" data-end-seconds=\"3292.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:52.270 - 54:53.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3292.27\" data-end-seconds=\"3293.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:53.030 - 54:53.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3293.03\" data-end-seconds=\"3293.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:53.510 - 54:53.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3293.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3293.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:53.850 - 54:54.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3293.85\" data-end-seconds=\"3294.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:54.250 - 54:55.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3294.25\" data-end-seconds=\"3295.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eingelassen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:55.430 - 54:55.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3295.43\" data-end-seconds=\"3295.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hast.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:55.970 - 54:56.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3295.97\" data-end-seconds=\"3296.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_15\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:56.350 - 54:56.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3296.35\" data-end-seconds=\"3296.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jeden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_13_16\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:56.550 - 54:56.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3296.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3296.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Fall.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_14_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:57.530 - 54:57.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3297.53\" data-end-seconds=\"3297.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_14_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:57.730 - 54:58.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3297.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3298.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bald.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_69_14_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"54:58.610 - 54:59.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3298.61\" data-end-seconds=\"3299.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tsch\u00fcss.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_8007308\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[55:00]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Fazit und Ausblick<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_70\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"3301.25\" data-end-seconds=\"3352.53\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"55:01.250 - 55:52.530\">[55:01]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:01.250 - 55:01.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3301.25\" data-end-seconds=\"3301.73\" data-confidence=\"1\">Ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:01.930 - 55:02.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3301.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3302.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:02.090 - 55:02.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3302.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3302.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tun<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:02.510 - 55:02.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3302.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3302.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:02.770 - 55:03.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3302.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3303.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Angesicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:03.350 - 55:03.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3303.35\" data-end-seconds=\"3303.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eines<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:03.790 - 55:04.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3303.79\" data-end-seconds=\"3304.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konfliktes,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:04.990 - 55:05.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3304.99\" data-end-seconds=\"3305.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:05.550 - 55:05.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3305.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3305.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:05.730 - 55:05.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3305.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3305.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:05.910 - 55:06.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3305.91\" data-end-seconds=\"3306.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:06.110 - 55:06.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3306.11\" data-end-seconds=\"3306.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eigene<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:06.550 - 55:06.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3306.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3306.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:06.850 - 55:07.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3306.85\" data-end-seconds=\"3307.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:07.050 - 55:07.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3307.05\" data-end-seconds=\"3307.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zumindest<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:07.470 - 55:07.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3307.47\" data-end-seconds=\"3307.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:07.730 - 55:08.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3307.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3308.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eigenen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:08.110 - 55:08.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3308.11\" data-end-seconds=\"3308.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Team?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:08.910 - 55:09.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3308.91\" data-end-seconds=\"3309.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:09.430 - 55:09.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3309.43\" data-end-seconds=\"3309.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:09.570 - 55:09.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3309.57\" data-end-seconds=\"3309.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> heute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:09.730 - 55:09.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3309.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3309.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:09.930 - 55:10.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3309.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3310.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thema.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:10.390 - 55:10.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3310.39\" data-end-seconds=\"3310.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:10.470 - 55:10.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3310.47\" data-end-seconds=\"3310.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:10.570 - 55:10.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3310.57\" data-end-seconds=\"3310.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:10.670 - 55:10.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3310.67\" data-end-seconds=\"3310.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:10.810 - 55:11.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3310.81\" data-end-seconds=\"3311.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frank<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:11.070 - 55:11.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3311.07\" data-end-seconds=\"3311.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Termer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:11.510 - 55:12.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3311.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3312.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besprochen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:12.690 - 55:12.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3312.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3312.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:12.770 - 55:12.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3312.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3312.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:12.910 - 55:13.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3312.91\" data-end-seconds=\"3313.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:13.090 - 55:13.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3313.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3313.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihm<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:13.410 - 55:14.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3313.41\" data-end-seconds=\"3314.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> demn\u00e4chst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:14.670 - 55:15.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3314.67\" data-end-seconds=\"3315.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:15.190 - 55:15.950, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3315.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3315.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Webinar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:15.950 - 55:16.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3315.95\" data-end-seconds=\"3316.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:16.330 - 55:16.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3316.33\" data-end-seconds=\"3316.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> halte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:16.910 - 55:17.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3316.91\" data-end-seconds=\"3317.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:17.210 - 55:17.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3317.21\" data-end-seconds=\"3317.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kontext<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:17.870 - 55:18.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3317.87\" data-end-seconds=\"3318.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:18.170 - 55:18.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3318.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3318.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bitkom<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_3_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:18.710 - 55:19.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3318.71\" data-end-seconds=\"3319.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Akademie.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:19.510 - 55:20.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3319.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3320.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:20.090 - 55:20.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3320.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3320.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:20.230 - 55:20.590, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3320.23\" data-end-seconds=\"3320.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:20.590 - 55:20.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3320.59\" data-end-seconds=\"3320.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:20.790 - 55:21.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3320.79\" data-end-seconds=\"3321.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> reduziert<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:21.490 - 55:21.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3321.49\" data-end-seconds=\"3321.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:21.710 - 55:22.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3321.71\" data-end-seconds=\"3322.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:22.430 - 55:22.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3322.43\" data-end-seconds=\"3322.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zwei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:22.670 - 55:23.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3322.67\" data-end-seconds=\"3323.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tipps<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:23.210 - 55:23.950, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3323.21\" data-end-seconds=\"3323.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:23.950 - 55:24.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3323.95\" data-end-seconds=\"3324.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:24.270 - 55:24.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3324.27\" data-end-seconds=\"3324.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einzelnen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:24.890 - 55:25.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3324.89\" data-end-seconds=\"3325.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Perspektiven,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:25.730 - 55:25.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3325.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3325.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:25.830 - 55:26.130, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3325.83\" data-end-seconds=\"3326.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:26.130 - 55:26.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3326.13\" data-end-seconds=\"3326.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:26.490 - 55:28.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3326.49\" data-end-seconds=\"3328.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konflikten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:28.350 - 55:28.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3328.35\" data-end-seconds=\"3328.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:28.550 - 55:29.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3328.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3329.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Organisationen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:29.610 - 55:29.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3329.61\" data-end-seconds=\"3329.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:29.690 - 55:30.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3329.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3330.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kontakt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:30.110 - 55:30.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3330.11\" data-end-seconds=\"3330.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kommen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:30.690 - 55:31.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3330.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3331.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:31.090 - 55:31.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3331.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3331.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:31.230 - 55:31.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3331.23\" data-end-seconds=\"3331.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> entweder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:31.450 - 55:31.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3331.45\" data-end-seconds=\"3331.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> selber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:31.790 - 55:32.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3331.79\" data-end-seconds=\"3332.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> merken,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:32.370 - 55:32.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3332.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3332.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oh,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:32.590 - 55:32.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3332.59\" data-end-seconds=\"3332.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:32.610 - 55:32.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3332.61\" data-end-seconds=\"3332.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:32.810 - 55:32.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3332.81\" data-end-seconds=\"3332.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:32.970 - 55:33.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3332.97\" data-end-seconds=\"3333.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:33.190 - 55:34.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3333.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3334.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konfliktposition<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:34.930 - 55:35.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3334.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3335.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ger\u00fcckt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:35.570 - 55:35.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3335.57\" data-end-seconds=\"3335.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:35.650 - 55:35.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3335.65\" data-end-seconds=\"3335.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:35.810 - 55:36.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3335.81\" data-end-seconds=\"3336.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jemand,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:36.370 - 55:37.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3336.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3337.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:37.230 - 55:38.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3337.23\" data-end-seconds=\"3338.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:38.110 - 55:38.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3338.11\" data-end-seconds=\"3338.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:38.270 - 55:38.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3338.27\" data-end-seconds=\"3338.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:38.370 - 55:38.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3338.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3338.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:38.470 - 55:38.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3338.47\" data-end-seconds=\"3338.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konflikt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:38.930 - 55:39.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3338.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3339.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:39.470 - 55:39.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3339.47\" data-end-seconds=\"3339.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:39.770 - 55:39.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3339.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3339.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:39.890 - 55:39.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3339.89\" data-end-seconds=\"3339.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:39.990 - 55:40.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3339.99\" data-end-seconds=\"3340.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielleicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_7_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:40.190 - 55:40.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3340.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3340.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:40.350 - 55:40.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3340.35\" data-end-seconds=\"3340.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:40.490 - 55:40.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3340.49\" data-end-seconds=\"3340.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemerkt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:40.930 - 55:41.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3340.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3341.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:41.250 - 55:42.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3341.25\" data-end-seconds=\"3342.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:42.090 - 55:42.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3342.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3342.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> daran<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:42.370 - 55:42.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3342.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3342.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gearbeitet,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:42.930 - 55:43.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3342.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3343.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:43.050 - 55:43.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3343.05\" data-end-seconds=\"3343.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:43.190 - 55:43.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3343.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3343.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> andere<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:43.430 - 55:43.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3343.43\" data-end-seconds=\"3343.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:43.630 - 55:44.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3343.63\" data-end-seconds=\"3344.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> merkt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:44.030 - 55:45.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3344.03\" data-end-seconds=\"3345.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:45.190 - 55:45.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3345.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3345.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:45.410 - 55:45.950, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3345.41\" data-end-seconds=\"3345.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konflikte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:45.950 - 55:46.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3345.95\" data-end-seconds=\"3346.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beobachtet,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:46.790 - 55:47.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3346.79\" data-end-seconds=\"3347.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:47.210 - 55:47.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3347.21\" data-end-seconds=\"3347.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wurden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:47.470 - 55:47.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3347.47\" data-end-seconds=\"3347.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:47.670 - 55:48.590, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3347.67\" data-end-seconds=\"3348.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> angetragen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:48.930 - 55:49.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3348.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3349.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:49.050 - 55:49.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3349.05\" data-end-seconds=\"3349.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:49.290 - 55:49.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3349.29\" data-end-seconds=\"3349.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:49.750 - 55:51.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3349.75\" data-end-seconds=\"3351.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eingeladen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:51.090 - 55:51.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3351.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3351.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Stellung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:51.710 - 55:51.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3351.71\" data-end-seconds=\"3351.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_70_9_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:51.890 - 55:52.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3351.89\" data-end-seconds=\"3352.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beziehen.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_71\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"3353.43\" data-end-seconds=\"3407.63\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"55:53.430 - 56:47.630\">[55:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:53.430 - 55:54.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3353.43\" data-end-seconds=\"3354.09\" data-confidence=\"1\">Koalition<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:54.090 - 55:54.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3354.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3354.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:54.550 - 55:55.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3354.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3355.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schmieden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:55.170 - 55:56.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3355.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3356.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:56.410 - 55:56.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3356.41\" data-end-seconds=\"3356.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:56.570 - 55:56.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3356.57\" data-end-seconds=\"3356.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:56.690 - 55:56.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3356.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3356.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:56.870 - 55:57.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3356.87\" data-end-seconds=\"3357.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> F\u00fchrungskraft<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:57.690 - 55:58.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3357.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3358.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:58.070 - 55:58.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3358.07\" data-end-seconds=\"3358.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:58.490 - 55:58.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3358.49\" data-end-seconds=\"3358.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"55:58.790 - 56:01.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3358.79\" data-end-seconds=\"3361.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Rollenfunktion,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:02.150 - 56:02.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3362.15\" data-end-seconds=\"3362.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konflikte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:02.690 - 56:03.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3362.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3363.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anderer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:03.230 - 56:04.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3363.23\" data-end-seconds=\"3364.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:04.170 - 56:04.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3364.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3364.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:04.330 - 56:04.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3364.33\" data-end-seconds=\"3364.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Blick<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:04.550 - 56:04.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3364.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3364.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:04.790 - 56:05.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3364.79\" data-end-seconds=\"3365.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nehmen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:05.170 - 56:05.590, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3365.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3365.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:05.590 - 56:05.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3365.59\" data-end-seconds=\"3365.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:05.870 - 56:06.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3365.87\" data-end-seconds=\"3366.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> konstruktiv<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:06.990 - 56:07.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3366.99\" data-end-seconds=\"3367.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:07.550 - 56:08.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3367.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3368.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bearbeiten.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:08.150 - 56:08.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3368.15\" data-end-seconds=\"3368.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:08.770 - 56:08.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3368.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3368.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:08.890 - 56:09.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3368.89\" data-end-seconds=\"3369.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:09.030 - 56:09.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3369.03\" data-end-seconds=\"3369.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:09.150 - 56:10.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3369.15\" data-end-seconds=\"3370.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ausgangsperspektiven<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:10.490 - 56:11.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3370.49\" data-end-seconds=\"3371.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:11.170 - 56:11.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3371.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3371.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> daf\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:11.490 - 56:11.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3371.49\" data-end-seconds=\"3371.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:11.730 - 56:11.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3371.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3371.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:11.910 - 56:12.170, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3371.91\" data-end-seconds=\"3372.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:12.170 - 56:12.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3372.17\" data-end-seconds=\"3372.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kontext<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:12.550 - 56:12.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3372.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3372.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dieses<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:12.790 - 56:13.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3372.79\" data-end-seconds=\"3373.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Webinars<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:13.390 - 56:15.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3373.39\" data-end-seconds=\"3375.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unseren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:15.030 - 56:17.130, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3375.03\" data-end-seconds=\"3377.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wichtigsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:17.130 - 56:17.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3377.13\" data-end-seconds=\"3377.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tipp,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:17.590 - 56:17.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3377.59\" data-end-seconds=\"3377.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unseren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:17.770 - 56:18.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3377.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3378.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:18.690 - 56:19.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3378.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3379.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ratschlag<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:19.510 - 56:20.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3379.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3380.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ausgew\u00e4hlt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:20.810 - 56:22.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3380.81\" data-end-seconds=\"3382.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:22.230 - 56:22.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3382.23\" data-end-seconds=\"3382.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:22.510 - 56:23.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3382.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3383.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bessere<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:23.730 - 56:24.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3383.73\" data-end-seconds=\"3384.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:24.050 - 56:24.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3384.05\" data-end-seconds=\"3384.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:24.530 - 56:24.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3384.53\" data-end-seconds=\"3384.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deiner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:24.770 - 56:25.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3384.77\" data-end-seconds=\"3385.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Perspektive<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:25.370 - 56:26.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3385.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3386.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:26.110 - 56:27.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3386.11\" data-end-seconds=\"3387.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> andere,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:27.690 - 56:28.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3387.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3388.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:28.110 - 56:28.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3388.11\" data-end-seconds=\"3388.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:28.370 - 56:29.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3388.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3389.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:29.010 - 56:29.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3389.01\" data-end-seconds=\"3389.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erw\u00e4hnenswert<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:29.890 - 56:30.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3389.89\" data-end-seconds=\"3390.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> h\u00e4ltst,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:30.750 - 56:30.930, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3390.75\" data-end-seconds=\"3390.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:30.930 - 56:31.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3390.93\" data-end-seconds=\"3391.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schreib<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:31.470 - 56:31.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3391.47\" data-end-seconds=\"3391.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:31.610 - 56:31.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3391.61\" data-end-seconds=\"3391.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> doch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:31.910 - 56:32.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3391.91\" data-end-seconds=\"3392.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:32.410 - 56:33.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3392.41\" data-end-seconds=\"3393.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> teile<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:33.370 - 56:33.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3393.37\" data-end-seconds=\"3393.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:33.450 - 56:33.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3393.45\" data-end-seconds=\"3393.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:33.670 - 56:33.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3393.67\" data-end-seconds=\"3393.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:34.010 - 56:34.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3394.01\" data-end-seconds=\"3394.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:34.090 - 56:34.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3394.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3394.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:34.270 - 56:34.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3394.27\" data-end-seconds=\"3394.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:34.530 - 56:34.830, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3394.53\" data-end-seconds=\"3394.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:34.830 - 56:35.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3394.83\" data-end-seconds=\"3395.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Rahmen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:35.270 - 56:37.050, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3395.27\" data-end-seconds=\"3397.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:37.050 - 56:37.690, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3397.05\" data-end-seconds=\"3397.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Webseite<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:37.690 - 56:37.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3397.69\" data-end-seconds=\"3397.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bzw.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:38.250 - 56:38.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3398.25\" data-end-seconds=\"3398.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> In<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:38.390 - 56:38.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3398.39\" data-end-seconds=\"3398.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:38.550 - 56:39.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3398.55\" data-end-seconds=\"3399.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Shownotes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:39.090 - 56:39.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3399.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3399.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nochmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:39.350 - 56:40.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3399.35\" data-end-seconds=\"3400.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aufgreifen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:40.250 - 56:41.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3400.25\" data-end-seconds=\"3401.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:41.190 - 56:41.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3401.19\" data-end-seconds=\"3401.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:41.890 - 56:42.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3401.89\" data-end-seconds=\"3402.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:42.390 - 56:42.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3402.39\" data-end-seconds=\"3402.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:42.510 - 56:42.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3402.51\" data-end-seconds=\"3402.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dar\u00fcber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:42.750 - 56:43.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3402.75\" data-end-seconds=\"3403.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:43.030 - 56:43.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3403.03\" data-end-seconds=\"3403.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:43.650 - 56:44.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3403.65\" data-end-seconds=\"3404.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sammlung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:44.150 - 56:44.470, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3404.15\" data-end-seconds=\"3404.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:44.470 - 56:46.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3404.47\" data-end-seconds=\"3406.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> organisieren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:46.090 - 56:46.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3406.09\" data-end-seconds=\"3406.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_71_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:46.670 - 56:47.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3406.67\" data-end-seconds=\"3407.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> publizieren.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_72\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"3408.74\" data-end-seconds=\"3423.44\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"56:48.740 - 57:03.440\">[56:48]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_72_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:48.740 - 56:49.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3408.74\" data-end-seconds=\"3409.36\" data-confidence=\"1\">Soweit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:49.360 - 56:49.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3409.36\" data-end-seconds=\"3409.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:49.500 - 56:49.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3409.5\" data-end-seconds=\"3409.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:49.640 - 56:50.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3409.64\" data-end-seconds=\"3410.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Moment.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:50.700 - 56:51.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3410.7\" data-end-seconds=\"3411.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:51.140 - 56:51.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3411.14\" data-end-seconds=\"3411.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:51.500 - 56:51.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3411.5\" data-end-seconds=\"3411.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gr\u00fc\u00dfen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:52.340 - 56:52.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3412.34\" data-end-seconds=\"3412.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:52.780 - 56:52.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3412.78\" data-end-seconds=\"3412.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:52.960 - 56:53.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3412.96\" data-end-seconds=\"3413.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:53.120 - 56:53.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3413.12\" data-end-seconds=\"3413.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mal.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:53.560 - 56:53.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3413.56\" data-end-seconds=\"3413.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Komm<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:53.700 - 56:53.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3413.7\" data-end-seconds=\"3413.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:53.880 - 56:54.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3413.88\" data-end-seconds=\"3414.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:54.040 - 56:54.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3414.04\" data-end-seconds=\"3414.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:54.160 - 56:54.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3414.16\" data-end-seconds=\"3414.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:54.520 - 56:54.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3414.52\" data-end-seconds=\"3414.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:54.600 - 56:54.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3414.6\" data-end-seconds=\"3414.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:54.740 - 56:55.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3414.74\" data-end-seconds=\"3415.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sascha<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:55.060 - 56:55.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3415.06\" data-end-seconds=\"3415.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Weigel,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:55.800 - 56:55.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3415.8\" data-end-seconds=\"3415.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:55.960 - 56:56.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3415.96\" data-end-seconds=\"3416.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Host<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:56.360 - 56:56.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3416.36\" data-end-seconds=\"3416.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:56.520 - 56:56.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3416.52\" data-end-seconds=\"3416.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> INKOVEMA<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:56.700 - 56:56.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3416.7\" data-end-seconds=\"3416.92\" data-confidence=\"1\">,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:57.060 - 56:57.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3417.06\" data-end-seconds=\"3417.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:57.100 - 56:57.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3417.1\" data-end-seconds=\"3417.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Institut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:57.580 - 56:57.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3417.58\" data-end-seconds=\"3417.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:57.800 - 56:58.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3417.8\" data-end-seconds=\"3418.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konflikte-<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:58.280 - 56:58.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3418.28\" data-end-seconds=\"3418.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:58.400 - 56:59.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3418.4\" data-end-seconds=\"3419.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Verhandlungsmanagement<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:59.360 - 56:59.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3419.36\" data-end-seconds=\"3419.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:59.560 - 56:59.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3419.56\" data-end-seconds=\"3419.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Leipzig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"56:59.920 - 57:00.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3419.92\" data-end-seconds=\"3420.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"57:00.060 - 57:00.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3420.06\" data-end-seconds=\"3420.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Partner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"57:00.400 - 57:00.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3420.4\" data-end-seconds=\"3420.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"57:00.600 - 57:01.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"3420.6\" data-end-seconds=\"3421.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> professionelle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_72_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"57:01.280 - 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