{"id":17483,"date":"2025-10-14T23:46:00","date_gmt":"2025-10-14T21:46:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/?p=17483"},"modified":"2025-10-15T00:09:27","modified_gmt":"2025-10-14T22:09:27","slug":"241-gddz-game-pentagon-oswald-summerton-thomas-wehrs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/241-gddz-game-pentagon-oswald-summerton-thomas-wehrs\/","title":{"rendered":"#241 GddZ - The Pentagon Game by Oswald Summerton. In conversation with Thomas Wehrs"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling gradient-container-1\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>INKOVEMA-Podcast &#8222;Gut durch die Zeit&#8220;<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#241 GddZ<\/h1>\n<h1>Das Game Pentagon von Oswald Summerton<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-3 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h1>Wechseln hier Personen die Positionen wie im Dramadreieck &#8211; oder nicht?<\/h1><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-4 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h3><strong>Im Gespr\u00e4ch mit Thomas Wehrs<\/strong><\/h3><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><p>Studierte praktische Philosophie, Schwerpunkt Wirtschaftsethik. Als Coach und Supervisor begleitet er Organisationen, Unternehmen und Menschen in Ver\u00e4nderungsprozessen. Professional Coach (DBVC) sowie Coach und Supervisor (EASC). Lehrender Transaktionsanalytiker (PTSTA-O)<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-5 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h3><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Kleine Reihe: Konzepte der Transaktionsanalyse<\/strong><\/span><\/h3><\/h3><\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema.podigee.io\/242-241-das-game-pentagon-von-oswald-summerton-im-gesprach-mit-thomas-wehrs\/embed?context=external\"><\/script>\n\n\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><h1><strong>Inhalt<\/strong><\/h1>\n<h2><strong>Kapitel:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">0:05 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Einf\u00fchrung in das GamePentagon<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">1:03 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Von Dramadreieck zu GamePentagon<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">4:28 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Die Funktionalit\u00e4t der Positionen<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">7:39 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Die f\u00fcnf Positionen im GamePentagon<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">14:26 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Humor und Merkhilfen im GamePentagon<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">21:32 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Sniper-Rolle und ihre Konsequenzen<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">27:28 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Dynamiken in der Organisation<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">29:40 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Systemische Sichtweise und Kommunikation<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">33:08 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>GamePentagon in der Supervision<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">37:02 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Abschluss und Ausblick<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<h2><strong>ausf\u00fchrliche Zusammenfassung<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>In dieser Episode des Podcasts &#8222;Gut durch die Zeit&#8220; widme ich mich gemeinsam mit Thomas Wehrs dem Konzept des Game Pentagons, einer Erweiterung der Transaktionsanalyse, die sich mit den Dynamiken von Interaktionen in Organisationen besch\u00e4ftigt. Wir beleuchten, wie das Game Pentagon, auch bekannt als Spiele-F\u00fcnfeck, von\u00a0<b> <\/b>\u00a0auf Grundlage der klassischen Spieltheorie von Eric Berne entwickelt wurde und wie es sich von bekannten Konzepten wie dem Dramadreieck unterscheidet.<\/p>\n<p>Das GamePentagon erm\u00f6glicht es uns, die vielschichtigen Rollen, die Menschen in Organisationen einnehmen k\u00f6nnen, differenziert zu analysieren. W\u00e4hrend das Dramadreieck vorwiegend dysfunktionale Interaktionen beschreibt, erkennt das GamePentagon an, dass Positionen sowohl funktional als auch dysfunktional sein k\u00f6nnen, abh\u00e4ngig von der Perspektive der Beteiligten. In dieser Episode vertiefen wir die f\u00fcnf Positionen innerhalb des GamePentagons: den Stage Manager, den Zuschauer, den Retter, den S\u00fcndenbock und den Sniper. Jede dieser Rollen bringt ihre eigenen Herausforderungen und Chancen mit sich, die sowohl auf individueller als auch auf organisatorischer Ebene betrachtet werden m\u00fcssen.<\/p>\n<p>Ein wichtiger Aspekt, den wir diskutieren, ist die Komplexit\u00e4t, die durch die Wechselwirkungen dieser Rollen entsteht. Ich erkl\u00e4re, wie eine Person in der Praxis zwischen diesen Positionen wechseln kann und welche Auswirkungen dies auf die Dynamik innerhalb eines Teams hat. Diese Wechsel k\u00f6nnen oft zu Missverst\u00e4ndnissen f\u00fchren, die in einem traditionellen Verst\u00e4ndnis des Dramadreiecks nicht erfasst werden k\u00f6nnen. Wir besprechen auch, wie das GamePentagon den Fokus von individueller Schuld auf systemische Dynamiken verlagert und somit ein besseres Verst\u00e4ndnis f\u00fcr das Zusammenspiel von Mensch und Organisation bietet.<\/p>\n<p>Des Weiteren beleuchten wir die praktische Anwendung des GamePentagons in Coaching- und Beratungssituationen sowie in der Supervision. Ich teile Beispiele aus der Praxis, in denen das GamePentagon als Denk- und Handlungsmodell dient, um Klienten zu helfen, ihre Rollen in einer Organisation besser zu erkennen und zu reflektieren. Wir diskutieren, wie diese Reflexion dazu beitragen kann, Missverst\u00e4ndnisse zu beseitigen und Kommunikationsbarrieren abzubauen, um somit das Teamklima zu verbessern.<\/p>\n<p>Durch praktische \u00dcbungen und Fallbeispiele veranschaulichen wir, wie das Game Pentagon Coaches und Beratern dabei helfen kann, komplexe Situationen besser zu navigieren und konstruktive Dialoge innerhalb von Teams zu f\u00f6rdern. Zusammengefasst bietet diese Episode eine umfassende Analyse des GamePentagons und dessen Relevanz f\u00fcr die Verbindung von psychologischen und systemischen Perspektiven in der Transaktionsanalyse.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"accordian fusion-accordian\" style=\"--awb-border-size:1px;--awb-icon-size:13px;--awb-content-font-size:18px;--awb-icon-alignment:left;--awb-hover-color:#b4c6d6;--awb-border-color:#b4c6d6;--awb-background-color:#ffffff;--awb-divider-color:#e0dede;--awb-divider-hover-color:#e0dede;--awb-icon-color:#ffffff;--awb-title-color:#356b8c;--awb-content-color:#4f4f4f;--awb-icon-box-color:#004767;--awb-toggle-hover-accent-color:#666666;--awb-title-font-family:&quot;Rubik&quot;;--awb-title-font-weight:regular;--awb-title-font-style:normal;--awb-title-font-size:16px;--awb-content-font-family:&quot;Rubik&quot;;--awb-content-font-style:normal;--awb-content-font-weight:300;\"><div class=\"panel-group fusion-toggle-icon-boxed\" id=\"accordion-17483-1\"><div class=\"fusion-panel panel-default panel-2f2a371efc1ce778a fusion-toggle-no-divider fusion-toggle-boxed-mode\" style=\"--awb-title-color:#356b8c;--awb-content-color:#4f4f4f;\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><h4 class=\"panel-title toggle\" id=\"toggle_2f2a371efc1ce778a\"><a aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"2f2a371efc1ce778a\" role=\"button\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-parent=\"#accordion-17483-1\" data-target=\"#2f2a371efc1ce778a\" href=\"#2f2a371efc1ce778a\"><span class=\"fusion-toggle-icon-wrapper\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><i class=\"fa-fusion-box active-icon awb-icon-minus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><i class=\"fa-fusion-box inactive-icon awb-icon-plus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-toggle-heading\">Literatur<\/span><\/a><\/h4><\/div><div id=\"2f2a371efc1ce778a\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"toggle_2f2a371efc1ce778a\"><div class=\"panel-body toggle-content fusion-clearfix\">\n<ul>\n<li>Summerton, O. (1979). The Game Pentagon, Souvenir of ITAC 2, 1979.<\/li>\n<li><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Summerton, O. (1993a). Games in organizations.\u00a0<em>Transactional Analysis Journal, 23<\/em>, 87-103.<\/span><\/li>\n<li>Summerton, O. (1992). The game pentagon.\u00a0<em>Transactional Analysis Journal<\/em>, 22(2), 66-75.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-1 content-boxes-icon-boxed content-left\" style=\"--awb-title-color:#607d8b;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-margin-top:20px;--awb-margin-bottom:20px;--awb-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-circle-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-item-margin-bottom:40px;\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div style=\"--awb-backgroundcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;\" class=\"fusion-column content-box-column content-box-column content-box-column-1 col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-sm-12 fusion-content-box-hover content-box-column-last content-box-column-last-in-row\"><div class=\"col content-box-wrapper content-wrapper-background content-wrapper-boxed link-area-link-icon link-type-button icon-hover-animation-fade\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div class=\"heading heading-with-icon icon-left\"><a class=\"heading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-mediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><div class=\"icon\"><i style=\"border-color:#81a0b8;border-width:1px;background-color:#d62f31;box-sizing:content-box;height:40px;width:40px;line-height:40px;top:-70px;margin-left:-20px;border-radius:50%;font-size:20px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"fontawesome-icon fa-bullhorn fas circle-yes\"><\/i><\/div><h2 class=\"content-box-heading fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"--h2_typography-font-size:18px;--fontSize:18;line-height:1.5;\">Mediationsausbildung<\/h2><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><div class=\"content-container\">\n<p>Unsere Ausbildung in Mediation und Konfliktmanagement in der Wirtschafts- und Arbeitswelt,<\/p>\n<p>geleitet von Prof. Dr. Sascha Weigel.<\/p>\n<p>Neustart jeweils j\u00e4hrlich im M\u00e4rz und Oktober.<\/p>\n<p>Jetzt f\u00fcr den n\u00e4chsten Kurs anmelden!<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><a class=\"fusion-read-more-button fusion-content-box-button fusion-button button-default fusion-button-default-size button- button-flat\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-mediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"fusion-button-text\">Mehr Informationen hier...<\/span><\/a><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-2 content-boxes-icon-boxed content-left\" style=\"--awb-title-color:#607d8b;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-margin-top:20px;--awb-margin-bottom:20px;--awb-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-circle-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-item-margin-bottom:40px;\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div style=\"--awb-backgroundcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;\" class=\"fusion-column content-box-column content-box-column content-box-column-1 col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-sm-12 fusion-content-box-hover content-box-column-last content-box-column-last-in-row\"><div class=\"col content-box-wrapper content-wrapper-background content-wrapper-boxed link-area-link-icon link-type-button icon-hover-animation-fade\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div class=\"heading heading-with-icon icon-left\"><a class=\"heading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-wirtschaftsmediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><div class=\"icon\"><i style=\"border-color:#81a0b8;border-width:1px;background-color:#d62f31;box-sizing:content-box;height:40px;width:40px;line-height:40px;top:-70px;margin-left:-20px;border-radius:50%;font-size:20px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"fontawesome-icon fa-info-circle fas circle-yes\"><\/i><\/div><h2 class=\"content-box-heading fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"--h2_typography-font-size:18px;--fontSize:18;line-height:1.5;\">Ausbildung Organisationsmediation - 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Herzlich willkommen zum Podcast gut durch die Zeit. Der Podcast rund um Mediation, Konfliktcoaching und Organisationsberatung. Ein Podcast von der Firma. Ich bin Sascha Weigel und begr\u00fc\u00dfe dich zu einer neuen Folge. Und die heutige Folge dreht sich um ein transaktionsanalytisches Konzept, das den Namen tr\u00e4gt GamePentagon. Das Spiele-F\u00fcnfeck auch genannt, aber bekannt auch in den deutschen Raum mit dem Begriff GamePentagon, das ich hier im Podcast schon vor langer, langer Zeit auch mal mit einem Kollegen besprochen habe und letztens im Gespr\u00e4ch mit Thomas Wehrs, der heute auch wieder hier im Podcast ist, auf die Idee kam, das m\u00fcssen wir nochmal aufgreifen. Zun\u00e4chst einmal hallo und herzlich willkommen, Thomas.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_1\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"45.74\" data-end-seconds=\"57.36\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:45]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, Sascha, herzlichen Dank erstmal f\u00fcr die Einladung. Ich freue mich sehr. Das GamePentagon ist so eines dieser Modelle, die im Coaching pl\u00f6tzlich ganz andere Situationen erkl\u00e4ren, ohne dass man lange analysieren muss. Und deshalb mag ich dieses Konzept.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6540242\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[1:03]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Von Dramadreieck zu GamePentagon<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_2\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"58.16\" data-end-seconds=\"102.46\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:58]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, und damit ist auch schon die Spur gelegt. Wir werden uns dieses Konzept genauer anschauen. Wir sind ja ganz \u00e4hnlich auch dahin gekommen, als wir gar nicht \u00fcber das Game Pentagon sprechen wollten, sondern \u00fcber das Dramadreieck. Aber so ist das in der TA ganz \u00fcblich. Man will \u00fcber das eine reden und landet beim anderen, weil die Dinge so miteinander verkn\u00fcpft und verbunden sind. Und dann aber ein gro\u00dfes Aber kommt, wir m\u00fcssen das genauer anschauen, Denn das ist nicht einfach nur dasselbe nochmal in gro\u00df, mit zwei Ecken dran, vom Dreieck zum F\u00fcnfeck, sondern das hat schon nochmal eine ganz andere Perspektive. Und dem wollen wir uns heute widmen. Zeichnen wir nochmal nach vom Dramadreieck zum Game-Pentagon. Wie lang ist der Weg f\u00fcr dich?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_3\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"105.64\" data-end-seconds=\"121.94\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[1:45]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Der Weg vom Dramatr\u00e4ger zum Game-Pentagon, der ist f\u00fcr mich nicht lang. Also das Game-Pentagon ist ja von Oswald Summers erweitert worden auf der Basis der klassischen Spieltheorie von Eric Berne. Summerton &#8211; nur noch so als Erg\u00e4nzung reingesprochen. Summers. Ich denke, es ist Oswald Summers oder Summerton.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_4\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"123.7\" data-end-seconds=\"194.52\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[2:03] <\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Summerton. Gut. Aber du, auf jeden Fall, das, was vorbei ist, der Sommer. Der steckt auf jeden Fall drin. Ich bin gerade nicht quellenfest. Ich hatte jetzt Oswald Summers im Kopf und, nee, Oswald Summerton. Summerton, ja. Ja, Summerton, genau. Also Oswald Summerton hat auf Basis der psychologischen Spiele von Eric Byrne dieses Modell des Game Pentagons. Entwickelt oder erkannt. Er schreibt in seiner Literatur, in seinem Artikel, dass er eine bestimmte Szene in einem Vorortzug von Neu-Delhi beobachtet hat und da war eben so, wo er sagte, Moment mal, was passiert hier gerade? Erik Byrne beschreibt ja, dass Menschen immer wieder in wiederkehrende Beziehungsmuster geraten oder auch sich hineinbegeben. Also die sogenannten psychologischen Spiele und Summerton hat daraus dieses Pentagon entwickelt. Also der hat das F\u00fcnfeck mit f\u00fcnf Positionen, die Menschen einnehmen k\u00f6nnen. Und ich w\u00fcrde auch nochmal unterscheiden zwischen Rolle im Dramadreieck und Position im Game-Pentagon. Das war auch der Ursprung oder der Punkt, wo er einen Mangel oder etwas nicht mit dem Dramadreieck erkl\u00e4ren konnte, weil es nicht da drin vorgesehen war.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_5\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"195.78\" data-end-seconds=\"263.52\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[3:15]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, und zwar diese Positionen, die in Organisationen oder in Gruppierungen auftreten, wenn Menschen miteinander in Interaktionen treten. Und da hat er gesagt, da ist dann das Dramadreieck, ich sag mal, das ist zu kurz gedacht. Da braucht es noch eine andere Ebene und er hat ja mit dem Game Pentagon die Ebene der Zeit und was hat er noch entwickelt? Also f\u00fcr mich ist es sozusagen die Organisation. Ich kann jetzt nicht nachzeichnen auf die Schnelle, ob das Sammerton auch in seinem Aufsatz oder in seinen Erl\u00e4uterungen dargelegt hat, aber dass er die Organisation mit eingepflegt hat oder in dem Falle den Kontext, den man so schnell aus dem Auge verliert, wenn man das Dramatreihe kennt. Und da kommen wir gleich zu einem Punkt, aber das war es wohl, der Kontext ist es. Es ist der Kontext, genau. Das hei\u00dft also dieser Kontext. Und das Spannende, finde ich, ist beim GamePentagon, dass diese Positionen, die Menschen einnehmen, die k\u00f6nnen funktional als auch dysfunktional zugleich sein. Also das Dramadreieck haben wir ja eher so in die Richtung, das ist dysfunktional, wenn ich in der Retterrolle oder in der Verfolgerrolle, in der Opferrolle mich halte.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6540243\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[4:28]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Die Funktionalit\u00e4t der Positionen<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_6\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"264.66\" data-end-seconds=\"300.41\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[4:24]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und Summerton sagt, im GamePentagon kann es beides gleichzeitig sein. Es kann funktional sein, also unterst\u00fctzend, oder dysfunktional hemmend oder st\u00f6rend sein. Ja, und gleichzeitig ist, glaube ich, auch der wichtige Begriff, es kann beides sein, es h\u00e4ngt von der Perspektive ab. F\u00fcr die Organisation kann es funktional sein, f\u00fcr die Person kann es dysfunktional sein. Und das finde ich so grundlegend interessant. Anders und nicht nur anreichernd, sondern das ist ein ganz anderes Spiel, wenn wir Organisationen betrachten und als Kontext beachten, als wenn wir nur oder ausschlie\u00dflich psychologisch drauf schauen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_7\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"301.45\" data-end-seconds=\"337.85\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[5:01]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, und du hast gerade diese Funktionen angesprochen in der Organisation, weil ich glaube, also das ist so mein Empfinden, dass die Positionen im Gamepad, die sichern ja Stabilit\u00e4t in der Organisation. Also wenn ich die Position des, ich sag mal, des Stage-Managers einnehme jetzt, dann ist das ja eine Stabilit\u00e4t, die ich in mir versp\u00fcre und gleichzeitig sorge ich f\u00fcr die Organisation f\u00fcr eine Stabilit\u00e4t. Es gibt diesen Stage Manager unabh\u00e4ngig von einer Person. Wenn keine Person da ist, ist es eine freie Stelle, die muss besetzt werden und dann muss sie da sein. Sie ist in der Hinsicht eine Stabilisierung der Organisation als solches.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_8\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"338.37\" data-end-seconds=\"396.53\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[5:38]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und wenn diese Stabilisierung der Organisation in dem Moment sozusagen angestrebt wird, kann es sein, dass sie oft verhindert, dass echte Verantwortung und Kooperation entsteht auf der menschlichen Ebene, auf der Ebene der Zusammenarbeit. Und das, finde ich, ist funktional auf der einen Seite und gleichzeitig kann es auch dysfunktional sich auswirken. Und damit will ich noch auf einen Aspekt aufmerksam machen, den ich mit dir besprechen wollte, weil du auch auf der einen Seite personenorientiert arbeitest, nicht nur im Coaching, sondern auch in anderen Auftragssettings, wo du den Menschen im Fokus beh\u00e4ltst. Das ist nicht nur, weil ich dich als Person kenne, auch ausweislich deiner Publikationen ist das ja ein ganz zentraler Faktor. Und auf der anderen Seite die Organisation als so ein abstraktes Wesen, die auch Auftraggeberin sein kann und eine ganz andere Logik mitbringt. Und diese beiden Konzepte stehen so f\u00fcr mich sinnbildlich, um den Unterschied deutlich zu machen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_9\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"397.21\" data-end-seconds=\"415.09\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[6:37]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wenn wir also das Dramatreik nehmen, und das ist ja ein so bekanntes Konzept, das kennt man auch au\u00dferhalb der TA-Szene. Und wenn man das einmal geh\u00f6rt hat, l\u00e4uft man durch die Welt und sieht nur noch Verfolger, Opfer und Retter. So eine gewisse Zeit. Also man muss sich ja zwei Wochen irgendwie, muss man damit zurechtkommen, dass man nur diese Treige umherschwirren sieht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_10\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"415.89\" data-end-seconds=\"457.86\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[6:55]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Sch\u00f6nes Bild. Und das steht f\u00fcr mich so f\u00fcr diese Personalisierung von Problemen. Also das Opfer im Grunde genommen, das Opfer ist doch selbst dran schuld. Wenn es eine andere Grundhaltung h\u00e4tte, dann wird das Ganze nicht zustande kommen. Dass das nicht ausreicht, wenn wir Organisationen haben, die diese strukturellen Unterschiede in sich angelegt hat und Menschen dann diese Rolle einfach \u00fcbernehmen und sich in einem Konflikt oder auch in einer konstruktiven Art und Weise wiederfinden, die ohne diese Organisation nicht erkl\u00e4rbar w\u00e4ren. War ein bisschen zu kompliziert, merke ich. Ja, das ist jetzt, ich merke, dass du versuchst gerade so zwei, drei Ebenen gleichzeitig miteinander zu verkn\u00fcpfen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6540244\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[7:39]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Die f\u00fcnf Positionen im GamePentagon<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_11\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"459.6\" data-end-seconds=\"480.54\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[7:39]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Helf mir doch bitte, rette mich aus der Situation. Rette mich, rette mich. Aber ich meine, also das Game-Pentagon wird nicht als Konzept so leichtg\u00e4ngig angewendet und hat deshalb auch, glaube ich, nicht diesen Publikationsstatus oder popul\u00e4ren Status, Weil diese Organisationsebene einen zus\u00e4tzlichen Aufwand bedeutet.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_12\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"481.2\" data-end-seconds=\"554\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[8:01]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Der das nicht mehr ganz so leichtg\u00e4ngig erkl\u00e4ren l\u00e4sst, als wenn ich nur in Verfolger, in Retter und in Opfer zu denken habe, um eine Problemsituation zu erkl\u00e4ren. W\u00fcrdest du da mitgehen? Da gehe ich voll mit und ich glaube, es hat was damit zu tun, dass urspr\u00fcnglich die Transaktionsanalyse ja aus dem psychotherapeutischen Anwendungsfeld stammt. Und da ist ja so das Bild des Menschen, da hat man sich mit Menschen besch\u00e4ftigt und auf die Menschen sich eingelassen. Und mit den Jahren, in den 1970er Jahren, ging es ja dann in andere Richtungen mit Beratung und Organisationsentwicklung. Und ich glaube, dass das vielleicht der aktuelle Status w\u00e4re, dass wir als Transaktionsanalytiker, die nah am Menschen sind, sich mit dieser Perspektive oder mit diesem Aspekt von Organisation noch viel mehr besch\u00e4ftigen k\u00f6nnten, um diese Komplexit\u00e4t, wie du sie gerade darstellst, von Organisation und Mensch in Organisation, dazu gibt es ja auch Publikationen von Transaktionsanalytikern, dass der Mensch im Spannungsfeld seiner Organisation ja auch mit diesen Themen immer wieder in Kontakt kommt. Wir als Transaktionsanalytiker und Organisationsberater in der Organisation mit diesen Modellen oder mit diesen Konzepten Erhellungsmomente erzeugen k\u00f6nnen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_13\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"554.6\" data-end-seconds=\"629.23\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:14]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wie diese organisationale Ebene mit der menschlichen Ebene in Verbindung steht und wie sich das Dramadreik, diese psychologische Ebene, auch auf der organisationalen Ebene immer wieder in den unterschiedlichen Positionen zeigen kann. Ja, aber der Punkt finde ich auch bei der Transaktionsanalyse und da wagen wir uns mal so ein bisschen an den steilen Berg ran. Die TA hat ja doch ihre Wurzeln in der Gruppentherapie. Ja. In der Therapie von Menschen in Gruppen. Und eines der Markenzeichen war, hier wirst du nicht alleine behandelt, sondern ich kann dich nur behandeln im Kontext der Gruppe. Und auch Byrne hat ein Buch \u00fcber Gruppen und Organisation geschrieben, dass&#8230; Ich sage mal, Gelinde, in der dritten B\u00fccherreihe von Transaktionsanalytikern gelandet ist, weil es schwerer zug\u00e4nglich ist und \u00fcberhaupt nicht diese Leichtg\u00e4ngigkeit mit sich bringt, wie andere Schriften mit den klassischen Konzepten. Und auch Sammerton muss sozusagen erst mit dem Zug durch Indien fahren und eine hohe Beobachtungsgabe mitbringen, dass er merkt, das Dramatrag reicht nicht aus. Es reicht einfach nicht aus, um in der Komplexit\u00e4t einer Organisation, die wesentlichen Figuren abzubilden.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_14\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"629.65\" data-end-seconds=\"699.81\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[10:29]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das finde ich gro\u00dfartige Leistung eines Thealers, dass er diese Offenheit und diese Neugier und diese Sensitivit\u00e4t in dem Moment erzeugt und sagt, Moment mal, ich sehe hier gerade etwas, das kann ich mit mir bekannten Konzepten nicht abdecken, das kann ich nicht erkl\u00e4ren, was hier gerade passiert. Ich brauche hier etwas anderes und sich dann auf den Weg macht und sagt, Moment mal, was war das denn jetzt hier gerade? Um dann festzustellen, ah, stopp, Und da findet zwar ein Dramadreieck statt oder da finden Interaktionen innerhalb eines Dramadreiecks statt. Und trotzdem ist es noch auf einer anderen Ebene, ich sage mal, ein organisationales Spiel, was durch die f\u00fcnf Positionen der 5S ja dann entsprechend repr\u00e4sentiert wird. Und das hat ja Sammerton dann auch dargelegt und gesagt, und so erkl\u00e4re ich mir das, was da passiert im Kontext von Organisationen. Und damit haben wir, vielleicht eine unzul\u00e4ssige Schlussfolgerung, aber lass es mich formulieren, nicht mehr ausschlie\u00dflich eine psychologische Brille und Herangehensweise, sondern eine soziologische. Und wir auch diese Rollen im Pentagon nicht alleine mit, naja, das sind halt die drei Dramatr\u00e4genrollen und noch zwei andere dazu.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_15\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"700.37\" data-end-seconds=\"747.38\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:40]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Sondern es ist eine andere Brille. Ich finde auch, dass es das Dramadreik nochmal auf eine andere Ebene hebt, weil zum Beispiel, wir haben jetzt den Stage Manager gerade genannt, der Stage Manager kann in seiner Position des Stage Managers, also desjenigen, der den Rahmen h\u00e4lt oder die initiale Z\u00fcndung gibt f\u00fcr das, was dann stattfindet, das kann der aus der Retterrolle, aus der Verfolgerrolle als auch aus der Opferrolle heraus denken und tun. Und das ist das Komplexe. Lass uns doch mal diese f\u00fcnf Positionen im Game-Bender-Kon nochmal benennen, weil ein Gro\u00dfteil der Zuh\u00f6rerinnen sind Mediatoren und Konfliktberater etc., aber eben nicht explizit Transaktionsanalytiker und dann haben wir das auch nochmal genannt. Mhm. Geholt. F\u00fcnf Positionen. Thomas, kannst du das?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_16\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"748.62\" data-end-seconds=\"766.92\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[12:28]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Bist du Quellenfest? Jetzt kommt der Verfolger. Thomas, kannst du das? Ja, bist du Quellenfest? Jetzt gucken wir mal gucken hier. Jetzt gucken wir mal, ob er es hinkriegt. Du, ich bin lehrender Thealer. Ich muss das nicht mehr nennen. Ich kann jetzt&#8230; Ach so. Ja, du, ich bin auch lehrender Thealer. Was machen wir denn jetzt? Oh gut, wir holen uns einen Zuschauergast rein. Okay.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_17\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"768.32\" data-end-seconds=\"854.18\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[12:48]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also, erstens ist es ja der Stage Manager. Das ist so der, der den Hintergrund, der die B\u00fchne gestaltet. Dann gibt es den Zuschauer, den Spectator, die sich das anschauen, Distanz halten und so sagen, das ist nicht mein Thema. Applaudieren, manchmal auch applaudieren und mit hoher Erwartungshaltung dem Schauspiel beiwohnen wollen. Und dann haben wir den Retter, den Xavier. Das sind dann meistens wir, die reingeholt werden. Bitte rette uns, bitte hilf uns. Wir werden in die Rolle des Retters reingebracht. Oder es werden auch Kollegen, die immer einspringen, wenn es brennt, die immer sozusagen da sind, um das Team zu retten. Man k\u00f6nnte auch sagen, k\u00f6nnte ein Muster von \u00dcberverantwortung da gelebt werden. Und da w\u00e4re vielleicht dann f\u00fcr mich gleich Claude Steiner Stroke-\u00d6konomie nochmal mit zu verbinden, um zu sagen, was k\u00f6nnte man da reinbringen. Die anderen beiden, da bin ich immer ein bisschen, das einer ist der Scapegoat, also der S\u00fcndenbock. Das ist der, der schuld ist. Wenn der nicht w\u00e4re, oder die, also die Person, also wenn die Person nicht w\u00e4re, dann h\u00e4tten wir diese ganze Thematik hier gar nicht. Also, wenn die weg ist. Fixen Sie den mal. Machen Sie den mal. Ja, und den f\u00fcnften vergesse ich immer wieder. Das ist der Sniper. Der Scharfsch\u00fctze. Der Sniper, genau. Der H\u00e4ndesch\u00fctze. Der macht auf das Problem aufmerksam. Der markiert das. Ja, ja. Stimmt. Gibt es ja auch einen sch\u00f6nen Film, ne? Also, ist ein anderes Thema.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_18\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"855.46\" data-end-seconds=\"866.3\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[14:15]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ist dir aufgefallen? Mir ist es n\u00e4mlich nicht aufgefallen, aber Thorsten Gagg, der das Konzept ja auch im Deutschen wieder sozusagen formuliert hat, hat mich darauf aufmerksam gemacht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6540245\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[14:26]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Humor und Merkhilfen im GamePentagon<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_19\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"867.2\" data-end-seconds=\"917.78\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[14:27]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Alles beginnt mit S. Ja, alles beginnt mit S. Und ich glaube, das war von Summerton, glaube ich, so ein kleiner, der hatte Humor. Ja, der hatte Humor und wollte es auch leichtg\u00e4ngig machen, indem man es sich merken kann. Aber mir ist das v\u00f6llig entgangen bis dato. Aber das sind die f\u00fcnf Positionen, die f\u00fcnf S. Die f\u00fcnf S-Positionen. Und jetzt nochmal, weil den Punkt, den hast du klasklar benannt und der war mir noch gar nicht so deutlich, aber diese f\u00fcnf Rollen, haben funktional schon sowas Aufgeteiltes wie Verfolger und Heckensch\u00fctzer, als der, der das Problem aufmerksam macht, das Gateboot als Opfer, das ist schon wie eine Opferrolle. Aber die Personen, die diese Positionen eingenommen bekommen haben, k\u00f6nnen das mit unterschiedlichen Qualit\u00e4ten erleben. Und die kann man beschreiben mit dem Dramadreieck.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_20\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"918.62\" data-end-seconds=\"990.96\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[15:18]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und das ist das Komplexe. Und jetzt wird es n\u00e4mlich verwirrend, vielleicht f\u00fcr Au\u00dfenstehende, um das dann wirklich zu analysieren, rauszukriegen, was ist auf der psychologischen Ebene f\u00fcr eine Energie und in welcher Position des Gamepadons zeigt sich das gerade. Und das ist Denken und Beobachten und auch keine Bewertung reinbringen, also keine Moralthematik reinbringen, sondern auch von der positiven Seite her zu sehen, es sind ja auch Schutzmechanismen, die die Menschen f\u00fcr sich entwickeln, weil sie sich in der Organisation sonst nicht anders, ich sag mal, sicher f\u00fchlen. Und wie sie auch ihre Pers\u00f6nlichkeit mit allen auch defizit\u00e4ren oder noch entwicklungsbereiten Anteilen reinbringen, um solche Positionen, solche funktionalen Rollen, wie es das Game Pentagon dann eben bereitstellt, auch auszuf\u00fcllen. Ja, ich st\u00f6re mich gerade an dem Wort defizit\u00e4r. Ich bin da immer so ein bisschen zwiesp\u00e4ltig, weil defizit\u00e4r hei\u00dft f\u00fcr mich, da ist was Pathologisches oder da ist eine Plus-Minus-Haltung unten drunter. Ich habe das Entwicklungsbereite noch hinterher geschoben, aber ich wusste, es wird sofort markiert werden. Ich sage dir auch, ich bin dankbar daf\u00fcr. Toll.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_21\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"993.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1054.92\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[16:33]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ich nehme das aus. Und das meine ich auch, dass man zum Beispiel Schuldzuweisungen oder Verantwortlichkeiten nicht auf den Scapegoat oder auf den Sniper projiziert, sondern sagt, nee, wir sind ja alle Teil des Ganzen, also wir sind ja Teil dieser Situation als State Manager, als Spectator, Zuschauer. Also ich applaudiere und freue mich daran, dass die beiden sich da gerade zermalmen. Juhu. Krieg ein nettes Schauspiel geliefert. Gehe nach Hause und sage abends, boah, das war ein toller Tag, die haben sich zermalmt. Zum Beispiel. Das w\u00e4re dann so im Alltag die Auswirkung. Und damit h\u00e4tten wir auch nicht mehr, und das meinst du vielleicht mit diesem moralischen Blickwinkel, im Dramatr\u00e4g ist ja schon so die erste Frage der Aktivit\u00e4tsgepr\u00e4gten, wie komme ich da wieder raus? Ich will da nicht drin sein. W\u00e4hrend es beim Gen-Pentagon nicht um diese Frage geht, also auch nicht als Lernweg oder als Ausgleich f\u00fcr defizit\u00e4re Situationen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_22\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1057.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1142.4\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[17:37]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wie komme ich raus aus dem Gen-Pentagon? Das ist \u00fcberhaupt nicht der Modus, diese Brille aufzusetzen. W\u00e4hrend beim Dramatreik das schon so ist. Die Schlussfolgerung und auch die Empfehlung aus der TA ist, lass es lieber sein, nimm gar keine Rolle ein. Nimm keine Rolle ein, geh ins Gewinnertreik oder geh ins Dreik der Intimit\u00e4t. Oder, ne, also irgendwie, versuch irgendwie eine andere Beziehungsgestaltung und schau, dass du in diese, ich sag mal, gewohnten Rollen einfach nicht einsteigst. Das kann ich lernen. Im Game-Pentagon ist das was anderes. Da geht&#8217;s um Autonomie. Da, finde ich, ist das Ziel, im Game-Pentagon Autonomie zu erreichen. Also f\u00fcr die Organisation auch eine Autonomie zu erreichen, so nach dem Motto, wie erkenne ich, in welchem Spiel ich gerade stecke? Ich entscheide mich dann auch, wie ich dann damit weitergehen kann. Also, dass ich es bewusst. Und was w\u00e4hle ich, wie ich k\u00fcnftig f\u00fchren m\u00f6chte, zum Beispiel jetzt auf der F\u00fchrungsebene oder dass ich mal schaue, was trage ich denn dazu bei, dass dieses Game Pentagon sich immer wieder zeigt in meinem Team oder in meiner Gruppe. Hey du, der den Podcast gerade h\u00f6rt, wir bringen jede Woche eine neue Folge in diesem Podcast auch dir zum Anh\u00f6ren und brauchen deine Unterst\u00fctzung. Nimm dein Smartphone, hinterlass eine Sternebewertung und einen Kommentar, wie dir der Podcast gef\u00e4llt und mach andere dadurch aufmerksam auf diesen Podcast hier. Vielen Dank und jetzt geht es weiter mit dem Podcast.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_23\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1144.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1220.66\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[19:04]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und da tut sich f\u00fcr mich eine kleine Unwucht auf. Also weil es ja als GamePentagon doch anschlie\u00dft an das Spielekonzept, wie auch das Dramatraik ja eine Darstellung von psychologischen Spielen ist. Und das GamePentagon dort wie so eine Br\u00fccke oder das drauflegt, Ja, das ist schon auch eine Spiele-Darstellung. Und damit per se, mit Konzepten der Grundhaltungen, mit den doppelb\u00f6tigen Kommunikationen, hat es schon die Tendenz auch, naja, die Rolle, die jetzt dort benannt ist, ist im Zweifel mit einer Dramatreikrolle erkl\u00e4rbar bzw. Erl\u00e4uterbar. Ich bin als Sniper eben Sniper. Also es ist noch keine Bezeichnung, wie jemand konstruktiv auf Missst\u00e4nde aufmerksam macht. Genau. Und das ist genau der Punkt. Und deshalb ist es f\u00fcr mich auch in der Kategorie Spiele anzusiedeln, weil es ist keine authentische Kommunikation, sondern ein authentisches Ich, was ich in dem Moment zeige, sondern es ist eine Rolle, die ich \u00fcbernehme, weil ich in mir vielleicht die Sorge habe, wenn ich das direkt sage, keine Ahnung, was an einem Fantasien im Kopf l\u00e4uft. Und deshalb gehe ich in die Sniper-Rolle, um mit der Sniper- oder mit der Hackensch\u00fctzen-Rolle etwas zu bewirken.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_24\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1221.76\" data-end-seconds=\"1251.84\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[20:21]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Vielleicht machen wir es an einem Beispiel. Also was w\u00e4re eine Situation, wo du sagst, ich habe jetzt im Training oder im Coaching oder in der Beratung eine Person, wenn ich mit der jetzt das Game Pentagon als Folie, als Denkfolie heranziehe, w\u00fcrde ich sagen, sie sind in der Rolle als in der Position eines Sniper hier. Und wir m\u00fcssen das nicht so machen in der Beratung, aber das w\u00e4re praktisch das theoretische Konzept dazu. Hast du da ein Beispiel parat?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_25\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1252.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1289.8\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[20:52]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also ich habe da ein Beispiel parat, letztens mit einer F\u00fchrungskraft, die sich also ge\u00e4rgert hat, ich sage mal, \u00fcber ihr Team. Also das war dann eher so eine Verfolgerthematik, so eine Verfolgerdynamik, die sie in sich hatte. Und ich habe dann so ein bisschen versucht rauszukriegen, um was geht es denn hier gerade? Also einmal psychologische Ebene, ja, Verfolgerthematik. Und was nimmst du gerade in deiner organisationalen Rolle f\u00fcr eine Position ein? Und habe dann gefragt, also ich denke immer, dass jedes Spiel oder auch dieses Game Pentagon spielt immer mit einer guten Absicht. Ich frage dann, was m\u00f6chten sie denn erreichen mit dieser Intervention, die sie da setzen? Was ist denn ihr Ziel? Und dann kam die Sache, ja, ich m\u00f6chte,<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6540246\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[21:32]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Sniper-Rolle und ihre Konsequenzen<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_26\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1289.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1292.6\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[21:29]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">dass die einfach besser miteinander sich abstimmen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_27\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1293.08\" data-end-seconds=\"1342.96\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[21:33]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und was h\u00e4lt sie denn zur\u00fcck, das nicht direkt zu kommunizieren? Ja, da wei\u00df ich ja jetzt schon, was die andere sagen wird und ich wei\u00df ja jetzt schon, wie er sich dann positionieren wird. Also dann kommt es auf der psychologischen Ebene in diese Minus-Plus-Haltungen, die sich dann in der \u00d6pferdynamik vom Dramadreieck zeigen. Diese F\u00fchrungskraft hat dann gedacht, okay, ich schie\u00dfe jetzt mal in Richtung des Teams und hau da mal einen rein, dass die so ein bisschen aufgemischt werden und dann halt ohne seine direkte Kommunikation oder sein direktes Anliegen glaubt, dass das Team wei\u00df, wo er eben hin will, damit das Team entsprechend sich in diese Richtung bewegt. Und wir beide wissen, das passiert ja nicht, sondern es entstehen neue Dynamiken und es entstehen ja, sei es Verwirrungen, sei es Irritationen und habe dann gefragt, also wie w\u00e4re es denn gewesen, wenn sie anders kommuniziert h\u00e4tten, also wenn sie gar nicht in diese Sniper.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_28\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1344.14\" data-end-seconds=\"1360.84\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[22:24]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Position reingegangen w\u00e4ren, sondern sie gesagt h\u00e4tten, was ist mein Ziel, was m\u00f6chte ich hier mitteilen, also kommt mir gleich das in den Kopf, wie w\u00e4re es mit der 3W-Formel nach der gewaltfreien Kommunikation, ich w\u00fcnsche mir was, ich nehme was wahr, ich w\u00fcnsche mir was und wie kann man das f\u00fcr die Zukunft miteinander vereinbaren?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_29\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1362.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1451.04\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[22:42]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und dann kam die F\u00fchrung und sagte, das habe ich mich nicht getraut. Und durch dieses, das habe ich mich nicht getraut, er merkte, dass er so in sich ver\u00e4rgert war und auch so eine Frustration in sich sp\u00fcrte, hat er gesagt, aber irgendwie musste ich, ich wollte diese Frustration loswerden und bin dann in diese sozusagen in diese Sniper-Dynamik eingestiegen und habe denen einfach was um die Ohren gehauen, habe denen gesagt, ihr seid so nach dem Motto, ihr seid doof. Das hei\u00dft sozusagen, der Begriff Sniper oder das, was sich dahinter verbirgt, hat schon die Konnotation von destruktiver Kommunikation, also negativer Grundhaltung. Das ist ja auch naheliegend, wenn man sozusagen an Verbesserungen arbeitet. Ich hatte jetzt von der theoretischen Konzeption auch in so einer Situation eher die Vorstellung, der hat das zwar Sniper genannt, es war halt ein sch\u00f6nes Wort mit S, und er brauchte halt irgendein Wort mit S. Aber dass die Rolle im Game-Pentagon erstmal wertungsfrei benannt ist, und sagt, das ist ein Platzhalter. Es gibt Personen, die haben eine Position in der Organisation, die hat was mit, ich muss auf Probleme aufmerksam machen, das ist einfach mein Job. Und wie ich das tue, ob konstruktiv oder destruktiv, das ist die Art, wie ich meine Rolle ausf\u00fclle. Aber dieses auf Probleme aufmerksam machen geh\u00f6rt zur Jobbeschreibung, wie zum Beispiel Controlling, Betriebsrat oder auch in der guten alten Zeit, in Anf\u00fchrungsstrichen, die F\u00fchrungskraft, wenn man sie mit Anordnung und Kontrolle auch verstanden wissen wollte.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_30\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1451.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1506.46\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[24:11]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das hat man ja aus guten Gr\u00fcnden modernisiert oder modernisieren wollen, was F\u00fchrung ist und F\u00fchrung zu sein hat. Aber das war lange Zeit nat\u00fcrlich ein Konsens, was deren Aufgabe ist. Und dann w\u00e4re das konzeptionell eher eine Einladung, wenn es Schwierigkeiten gibt, weil das der Grund ist, h\u00e4ufig sich mit Ver\u00e4nderungen zu befassen, dann habe ich eine Denkfolie, in der ich f\u00fcnf Positionen benenne, weil sie wesentlich sind f\u00fcr die Ver\u00e4nderungsarbeit. Dem Vorw\u00fcrfe gemacht werden, der der Tr\u00e4ger, Ja, ja. aufmerksam macht. Der, der dann beispringt, was h\u00e4ufig so ist und sagt, das ist ja alles gar nicht so schlimm und kehrt auch vor deiner eigenen Haust\u00fcr. Und dann das Auditorium drumherum, die Bystander, das Team, die sich nie mit Konflikten identifizieren und froh sind, dass das andere erledigen. Und nat\u00fcrlich die Verantwortlichen, die Stage-Manager. Ja, und das kann wechseln. Und das finde ich auch nochmal das Interessante, dass dann diese Positionen auch noch wechseln k\u00f6nnen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_31\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1507.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1542.76\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[25:07]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also, dass die Zuschauer auf einmal eine aktive Position einnehmen, indem sie Retter werden oder indem sie nochmal auch in die Sniperrolle einsteigen und andere sich dann in die Zuschauerrolle begeben. Wie du sagst, das ist ja so eine Dynamik, die sich dann in Organisationen zeigt und wo das Dramadreieck immer wieder mitl\u00e4uft auf der psychologischen Ebene. Ja, da haben wir f\u00fcr dich einen sch\u00f6nen Unterschied rausgearbeitet, wie wir das Konzept unterschiedlich anwenden. Ich habe gerade nicht, aber so habe ich dich jetzt verstanden, im GamePentagon Und die Idee, dass diese Positionen gewechselt werden, also es wird gerade.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_32\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1543.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1576.14\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[25:43]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also jetzt kommt ein typisches TA-Insider-Ding, da werden gerade keine Pfeile gezeichnet zwischen diesen Positionen wie im Travertreieck, sondern das sind nur Striche. Das sind nur Striche und entweder sind sie spontan, intuitiv, situativ und sie wechseln von einer zur anderen. Also alle f\u00fcnf Positionen sind miteinander verbunden. Also ich kann von einer Position in die andere gehen und kann auch in die dritte Position gehen. Und das finde ich ja, das ist die Dynamik, die dann so komplex wird.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_33\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1576.97\" data-end-seconds=\"1581.13\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[26:16]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Dass wir dann denken, verdammt, was passiert hier gerade? Was l\u00e4uft hier f\u00fcr ein Spiel?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_34\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1581.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1646.09\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[26:21]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, dann gucken wir unsere klassischen Dramadreieckspiele durch. Ja, aber oder Holzfu\u00df oder also alle m\u00f6glichen Sachen. Wir sagen, nee, irgendwie passt das hier gerade nicht. Ah ja, das ist interessant. Das kann ich gut nachvollziehen, dass das auch wirksam ist in der Beratung. Bei mir ist dann in dem Moment, wo ich sage, okay, wenn jetzt, nehmen wir mal an, der Betriebsrat ist der, der auf Probleme aufmerksam macht und zur F\u00fchrungskraft geht und sagt, also hier, so geht das nicht. Und ich habe den Auftrag hier vom Scapegoat oder von demjenigen, der hier diese Position hat und die du letztlich wirklich immer angehst. Und wenn dann in der Konfliktkommunikation so ein Wechsel stattfindet, wie wir es aus dem Dramatreik kennen, du brauchst dich jetzt gar nicht aufregen, bei dem anderen hast du auch nichts gesagt, dann wird dort auf ein anderes Problem aufmerksam gemacht. Und dann ist sozusagen das Game-Pentagon anders verteilt, weil es ein anderes Problem ist, aber ich nehme das dann auseinander und sage, das sind halt zwei verschiedene Probleme und wir k\u00f6nnen sie beide gemeinsam bearbeiten, aber nicht sozusagen in einem Wechsel der Positionen, sondern das sind halt zwei verschiedene.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6540247\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[27:28]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Dynamiken in der Organisation<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_35\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1646.57\" data-end-seconds=\"1668.41\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[27:26]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das sind zwei verschiedene und das wird oft nicht wahrgenommen. Ja, das ist sozusagen auch die Konsequenz, in der du dann sagst, man kann im Game-Pentagon-Positionen wechseln und werden dadurch besprechbar gemacht, w\u00e4hrend ich sozusagen eher separierend vorgehe und sage, okay, das ist ein anderes Thema, jetzt kein Wort \u00fcber Autism, sondern jetzt bitte nur bei dem Thema bleiben.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_36\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1669.11\" data-end-seconds=\"1718.11\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[27:49]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wenn ich das in Teamcoachings zum Beispiel mache, dass ich dann das Game Pentagon auf die Erde lege, also die f\u00fcnf Positionen, und sage, in welcher Position f\u00fchlen sie sich angesprochen? Wo, glauben sie, sind sie so? Wie sind sie unterwegs? Erst mal kommt dann so eine Stille. Passiert erst mal gar nichts, weil die dann erst mal sagen, oh Gott, jetzt muss ich mich positionieren. Jetzt muss ich mich auch noch sichtbar positionieren. Hat er mich was gefragt? Jetzt muss ich auch noch mitmachen. Jetzt muss ich mich ja auch noch positionieren. Oh Gott, das ist ja wie ein Rollenspiel. Okay, und dann stellt euch doch mal dahin. Und dann stellen sie sich dahin und dann gehe ich in die Interaktion und sage, okay, also was ist denn so ihr Denken zu dieser Position? Warum tun sie das? Oder was verbinden sie mit dieser Position? Und dann bitte ich sie, eine andere Position einzunehmen und sage, was glauben sie denn, wenn sie aus dieser Position, in der sie jetzt gerade sind, sich, ich sage mal, wenn sie sich jetzt, sie stehen jetzt mit dem Stage Manager.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_37\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1718.79\" data-end-seconds=\"1780.5\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:38]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und ich sage, jetzt gehen sie doch mal richtigen Zuschauer. Jetzt stellen sie sich doch mal auf die Zuschauerseite. Und jetzt gucken sie doch mal, wie geht es ihnen jetzt auf einmal mit. Und dann fangen die an, andere Empfindungen wahrzunehmen und sagen, Moment mal, das f\u00fchlt sich gerade ganz anders an. Und das mache ich begreifbar, das mache ich sichtbar, dass dieser Wechsel stattfinden kann und gleichzeitig dass diese Positionen im Game-Pentagon dynamisch sein k\u00f6nnen und gleichzeitig auch hilfreich sein k\u00f6nnen. Wie du sagst, also der Stage-Manager kann ja sagen, oh Leute, wollen wir das Thema jetzt nicht mehr hier mal langsam schlie\u00dfen und mal auf eine andere Ebene uns begeben und dann vielleicht wieder in ein konstruktives Miteinander zu gehen. Also das ist wie so ein Teamcoaching, diese Positionen sp\u00fcrbar, sichtbar zu machen, Bodenanker zu machen, sich draufzustellen, damit in eine Verbindung zu kommen, energetisch. Dann passieren psychologische Dinge. Dann lasse ich sie einfach ein bisschen wechseln und dann gucken wir mal, was entsteht an Dynamik in der Gruppe, was entsteht an der Dynamik im Team. Wie nehmen die dann diese Dynamiken f\u00fcr sich wahr? Wie k\u00f6nnen sie das dann f\u00fcr sich in der Zukunft f\u00fcr das Team, f\u00fcr das Miteinander nutzen?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6540248\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[29:40]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Systemische Sichtweise und Kommunikation<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_38\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1781.14\" data-end-seconds=\"1834.58\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[29:41]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Welche Schlussfolgerung nehmen sie mit? Das ist auch entlastend f\u00fcr die Teammitglieder in dem Moment, weil der Fokus verschiebt sich ja von Schuld zu System. Also du bist nicht schuld, dass du diese Position hast, sondern das ist systemisch, dass wir uns so verhalten. Und das ist doch in Ordnung, wenn du die Positionen wechselst. Und das \u00f6ffnet doch auch Wege zu Kommunikation, Vertrauen und echte Wirksamkeit. Also das ist so mein Denken mit dem Game-Pentagon. Ja, und Arbeiten. Also du arbeitest explizit damit. Du hast es nicht nur im Hinterkopf, sondern arbeitest \u00e4hnlich auch wie im Dramatrag explizit damit. Ich mache es auch offen. Also ich f\u00fchre es auch ein theoretisch. Vielleicht noch ein Wort, weil du auch Lehrender bist. Wie erlebst du das GamePentacon in der TA-Lehre? Also welche Rolle spielt das f\u00fcr dich in der TA-Lehre? Ich bin jetzt gespannt auf das L\u00e4cheln, weil das konnte ich nicht ganz einordnen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_39\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1836.56\" data-end-seconds=\"1906.74\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[30:36]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, weil, also in der TA-Lehre bin ich auf der relationalen Ebene und auf der ko-kreativen Ebene mit den Teilnehmenden. Und das ist f\u00fcr mich dann nochmal eine spezielle Lernsituation, die wir miteinander eingehen. Da w\u00fcrde ich das Game-Pentagon f\u00fcr mich jetzt nicht so reinholen, da w\u00e4re ich dann eher bei der klassischen Burn-Gruppen-Dynamiksthematik, dass in dieser Lerngruppe durch die Relationale und die Co-Kreativen Prinzipien eine Qualit\u00e4t und ein Bewusstsein entsteht, die auch wirklich nur in dieser geschlossenen Gruppe stattfinden kann, weil die einfach miteinander lernen k\u00f6nnen. Das ist im Team nochmal was anderes, weil ein Team ist ja nicht, ich sag mal, ist schon freiwillig zusammen und trotzdem sind sie nicht freiwillig zusammen. Ah, du hast jetzt das Konzept auf deine Lerngruppe auflegt oder dachtest auflegen. Ich meine eher so, da bin ich ganz einfach gestrickt. Du stellst das vor als Konzept der TA und zwischen den Zeilen steht mit Ausrufezeichen, das m\u00fcsst ihr wissen, das m\u00fcsst ihr auswendig gelernt haben. Aber wie erlebst du, wie das andere\u2026.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_40\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1908.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1951.78\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[31:48]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also die sind erstmal begeistert von dieser \u00d6ffnung des Dramadreiecks, weil das Dramadreieck ist ja auch so ein Lieblingskonzept f\u00fcr viele Menschen. Das ist anwendbar, das ist sichtbar, das ist also schnell umsetzbar. Und das GamePentagon bringt dann dieses Dramadreieck f\u00fcr die nochmal auf eine andere Ebene und gerade f\u00fcr die Coaches und Berater, die im Anwendungsfeld O sich weiter qualifizieren, die freuen sich \u00fcber dieses Konzept, weil die sagen, damit verstehe ich jetzt mein System auch nochmal ganz anders, in dem ich gerade t\u00e4tig bin oder f\u00fcr die ich t\u00e4tig bin. In der kollegialen Fallberatung kl\u00e4ren wir dann ja auch manchmal so Situationen in der Lerngruppe, dass wir dann fragen, erz\u00e4hl doch mal so, was ist denn passiert letztens, als du einen Coaching-Auftrag hast oder eine.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_41\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1952.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1984.44\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[32:32]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Beratungsanfrage hattest? Wie ist das Game-Pentagon da sichtbar geworden? Was hast du f\u00fcr dich wahrgenommen? Und auch die Frage, warum das manchmal gescheitert ist. Woran ist es denn gescheitert, dass dieser Beratungsauftrag nicht fortgesetzt wurde? Und anhand des Game-Pentagons kann man Und dann kann man dann ganz wunderbar, ah, verstehe, da bin ich in die Richtung des Scapegoats geschickt worden. Und ich habe diese Rolle angenommen und habe mich sozusagen zum S\u00fcndenbock machen lassen, obwohl die als Retter in die Organisation geholt wurde. So nach dem Motto, ah, liebe Veranstaltungen, wir haben es ja probiert, aber ihr seht ja, bringt nichts.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6540249\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[33:08]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>GamePentagon in der Supervision<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_42\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1984.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2040.73\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[33:04]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Es wird gut angenommen, gerade f\u00fcr O-Leute, die im Bereich O sich weiterbilden. Und auch, das finde ich auch nochmal interessant, der Supervision sehr gut nutzbar, um sich als Externer da nochmal gut verorten zu k\u00f6nnen. Definitiv. Also das auch nochmal f\u00fcr sich selbst, seinen eigenen Lernreise damit abzugleichen und zu sagen, was ist denn da passiert, was habe ich unbewusst gemacht und wenn ich heute jetzt in der Supervision bewusst drauf schaue, was w\u00fcrde ich denn zuk\u00fcnftig dann anders machen und was werde ich anders machen? Worauf werde ich jetzt mehr achten oder mehr Vertr\u00e4ge machen oder bessere Vertr\u00e4ge oder was auch immer dann da an Ergebnis in der Supervision f\u00fcr die zu supervidierende Person sich dann ergibt? Gerade in der Supervision finde ich das deshalb auch nochmal lohnenswert, nicht nur als Denkfolie, sondern einfach schon als Intervention. Die Organisation hat ihre Positionen und die Position des Saviors ist kein Mitglied der Organisation.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_43\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2041.49\" data-end-seconds=\"2110.06\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"34:01.490 - 35:10.060\">[34:01]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:01.490 - 34:01.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2041.49\" data-end-seconds=\"2041.91\" data-confidence=\"1\">Also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:01.910 - 34:02.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2041.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2042.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:02.210 - 34:02.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2042.21\" data-end-seconds=\"2042.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:02.450 - 34:02.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2042.45\" data-end-seconds=\"2042.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:02.790 - 34:02.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2042.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2042.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:02.910 - 34:03.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2042.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2043.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> immer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:03.070 - 34:03.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2043.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2043.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:03.210 - 34:03.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2043.21\" data-end-seconds=\"2043.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> interessanteste<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:03.910 - 34:04.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2043.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2044.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Fragestellung,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:04.910 - 34:05.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2044.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2045.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:05.010 - 34:05.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2045.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2045.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:05.190 - 34:05.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2045.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2045.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Klienten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:05.970 - 34:06.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2045.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2046.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:06.230 - 34:06.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2046.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2046.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:06.610 - 34:06.950, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2046.61\" data-end-seconds=\"2046.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> w\u00fcrden,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:07.110 - 34:07.530, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2047.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2047.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beziehungsweise<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:07.530 - 34:07.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2047.53\" data-end-seconds=\"2047.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:07.750 - 34:08.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2047.75\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Berater<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.270 - 34:08.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.570 - 34:08.890, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.57\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirklich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.890 - 34:09.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2049.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:09.350 - 34:10.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2049.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2050.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> konfrontieren,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:10.770 - 34:11.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2050.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2051.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:11.410 - 34:11.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2051.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2051.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:11.610 - 34:12.130, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2051.61\" data-end-seconds=\"2052.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bedeutet.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:12.130 - 34:12.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2052.13\" data-end-seconds=\"2052.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Denn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:12.630 - 34:12.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2052.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2052.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:12.790 - 34:12.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2052.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2052.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:12.970 - 34:13.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2052.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nat\u00fcrlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.550 - 34:13.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.870 - 34:14.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.87\" data-end-seconds=\"2054.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:14.230 - 34:15.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2054.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ge\u00fcbte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.070 - 34:15.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Praxis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.510 - 34:15.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.770 - 34:15.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.970 - 34:16.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2056.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:16.190 - 34:16.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2056.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2056.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> externe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:16.670 - 34:17.130, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2056.67\" data-end-seconds=\"2057.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Berater<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:17.130 - 34:17.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2057.13\" data-end-seconds=\"2057.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:17.410 - 34:18.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2057.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2058.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wohltuende<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:18.330 - 34:18.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2058.33\" data-end-seconds=\"2058.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Praxis,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:18.890 - 34:18.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2058.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2058.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:18.990 - 34:19.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2058.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2059.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:19.150 - 34:19.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2059.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2059.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:19.330 - 34:19.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2059.33\" data-end-seconds=\"2059.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Externer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:19.750 - 34:20.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2059.75\" data-end-seconds=\"2060.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> angefragt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:20.390 - 34:20.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2060.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2060.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:20.890 - 34:21.190, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2060.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2061.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.190 - 34:21.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.19\" data-end-seconds=\"2061.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.490 - 34:21.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.49\" data-end-seconds=\"2061.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.730 - 34:21.910, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.73\" data-end-seconds=\"2061.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.910 - 34:22.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.91\" data-end-seconds=\"2062.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:22.070 - 34:22.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2062.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wichtige<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:22.410 - 34:22.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.41\" data-end-seconds=\"2062.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frage,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:22.810 - 34:23.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.81\" data-end-seconds=\"2063.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:23.090 - 34:23.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2063.09\" data-end-seconds=\"2063.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:23.250 - 34:23.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2063.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2063.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Logik<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:23.650 - 34:23.790, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2063.65\" data-end-seconds=\"2063.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:23.790 - 34:24.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2063.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verstehen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.470 - 34:24.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.47\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> warum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.730 - 34:25.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.73\" data-end-seconds=\"2065.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:25.230 - 34:25.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2065.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2065.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Savior<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:25.570 - 34:26.310, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2065.57\" data-end-seconds=\"2066.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> au\u00dferhalb<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:26.310 - 34:27.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2066.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2067.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> positioniert<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:27.070 - 34:27.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2067.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2067.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:27.810 - 34:28.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2067.81\" data-end-seconds=\"2068.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:28.570 - 34:28.730, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2068.57\" data-end-seconds=\"2068.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:28.730 - 34:28.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2068.73\" data-end-seconds=\"2068.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:28.870 - 34:29.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2068.87\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.010 - 34:29.310, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Savior<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.310 - 34:29.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.31\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.510 - 34:29.870, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.870 - 34:30.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.87\" data-end-seconds=\"2070.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:30.150 - 34:30.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2070.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2070.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> S\u00fcndenbock<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:30.630 - 34:31.490, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2070.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2071.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sozusagen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:31.490 - 34:31.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2071.49\" data-end-seconds=\"2071.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> halt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:31.810 - 34:32.710, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2071.81\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> umgeformt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.710 - 34:33.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.71\" data-end-seconds=\"2073.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:33.030 - 34:33.610, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2073.03\" data-end-seconds=\"2073.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:33.610 - 34:34.030, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2073.61\" data-end-seconds=\"2074.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Game<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:34.030 - 34:34.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2074.03\" data-end-seconds=\"2074.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Pentagon,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:34.790 - 34:34.970, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2074.79\" data-end-seconds=\"2074.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> damit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:34.970 - 34:35.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2074.97\" data-end-seconds=\"2075.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:35.430 - 34:35.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2075.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2075.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Stage<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:35.770 - 34:36.110, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2075.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2076.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Manager<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:36.110 - 34:36.630, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2076.11\" data-end-seconds=\"2076.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:36.630 - 34:36.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2076.63\" data-end-seconds=\"2076.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:36.850 - 34:37.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2076.85\" data-end-seconds=\"2077.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Spectators<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:37.350 - 34:37.590, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2077.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2077.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:37.590 - 34:37.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2077.59\" data-end-seconds=\"2077.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wieder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:37.750 - 34:38.230, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2077.75\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> best\u00e4tigt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.230 - 34:38.450, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.23\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fchlen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.450 - 34:38.550, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.45\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.550 - 34:38.650, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.55\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.750 - 34:38.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.75\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> siehste,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:39.610 - 34:39.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2079.61\" data-end-seconds=\"2079.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:39.770 - 34:39.950, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2079.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2079.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:39.950 - 34:40.210, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2079.95\" data-end-seconds=\"2080.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kriegt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:40.210 - 34:40.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2080.21\" data-end-seconds=\"2080.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:40.290 - 34:40.430, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2080.29\" data-end-seconds=\"2080.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:40.430 - 34:40.590, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2080.43\" data-end-seconds=\"2080.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hin.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:41.130 - 34:41.330, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2081.13\" data-end-seconds=\"2081.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:41.330 - 34:42.290, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2081.33\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thomas,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.890 - 34:43.010, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.89\" data-end-seconds=\"2083.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:43.010 - 34:43.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2083.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2083.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nutze<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:43.270 - 34:43.410, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2083.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2083.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:43.670 - 34:44.150, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2083.67\" data-end-seconds=\"2084.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:44.150 - 34:44.270, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2084.15\" data-end-seconds=\"2084.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:44.270 - 34:44.350, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2084.27\" data-end-seconds=\"2084.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:44.350 - 34:44.850, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2084.35\" data-end-seconds=\"2084.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hingekriegt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.010 - 34:45.370, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.01\" data-end-seconds=\"2085.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.370 - 34:45.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.37\" data-end-seconds=\"2085.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.510 - 34:45.750, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2085.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> heute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.750 - 34:45.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.75\" data-end-seconds=\"2085.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.990 - 34:46.070, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2086.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:46.070 - 34:46.670, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2086.07\" data-end-seconds=\"2086.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Game-Pentagon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:46.670 - 34:47.090, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2086.67\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gesprochen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.290 - 34:47.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.29\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.390 - 34:47.510, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.39\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.510 - 34:47.770, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.51\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> alles<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.770 - 34:48.390, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.77\" data-end-seconds=\"2088.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> abgehandelt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:48.490 - 34:48.810, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2088.49\" data-end-seconds=\"2088.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:48.810 - 34:48.990, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2088.81\" data-end-seconds=\"2088.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:48.990 - 34:49.250, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2088.99\" data-end-seconds=\"2089.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> braucht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:49.250 - 34:49.570, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2089.25\" data-end-seconds=\"2089.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:50.280 - 34:50.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2090.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2090.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:50.600 - 34:50.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2090.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2090.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> denke<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:50.760 - 34:51.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2090.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2091.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:51.260 - 34:51.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2091.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2091.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Keine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:51.660 - 34:52.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2091.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2092.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Defizite<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:52.220 - 34:52.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2092.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2092.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hinterlassen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.060 - 34:53.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Finde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.460 - 34:53.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.540 - 34:53.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.640 - 34:53.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.840 - 34:54.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2094.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beruhigend,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:54.300 - 34:54.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2094.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2094.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:54.380 - 34:54.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2094.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2094.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nochmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:54.600 - 34:55.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2094.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2095.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eins<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:55.520 - 34:56.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2095.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2096.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nachsetzen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:56.120 - 34:56.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2096.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2096.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:56.260 - 34:56.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2096.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2096.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> d\u00fcrfen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:56.960 - 34:57.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2096.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.040 - 34:57.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> werde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.120 - 34:57.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.280 - 34:57.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wort<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.580 - 34:57.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.780 - 34:57.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oft<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.920 - 34:58.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2098.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:58.060 - 34:58.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2098.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2098.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> m\u00f6glich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:58.380 - 34:58.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2098.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2098.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.040 - 34:59.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2099.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.080 - 35:00.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chste<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.040 - 35:00.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Woche<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.340 - 35:00.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.580 - 35:00.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.840 - 35:01.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2101.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Monat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:01.120 - 35:01.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2101.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2101.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:01.260 - 35:01.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2101.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2101.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:01.360 - 35:02.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2101.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2102.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Lehrendenkonferenz.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.000 - 35:03.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.440 - 35:03.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.600 - 35:03.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.680 - 35:03.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.760 - 35:03.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.800 - 35:04.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Pr\u00fcfung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.100 - 35:04.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.220 - 35:04.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.360 - 35:04.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Pr\u00fcf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.660 - 35:04.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.800 - 35:05.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2105.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> pr\u00fcfen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:05.080 - 35:05.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2105.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2105.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:05.160 - 35:05.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2105.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2105.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> fragen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:05.580 - 35:05.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2105.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2105.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sag<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:05.800 - 35:05.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2105.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2105.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mal,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:05.980 - 35:06.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2105.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2106.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wo<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:06.060 - 35:06.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2106.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2106.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:06.220 - 35:06.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2106.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2106.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:06.320 - 35:06.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2106.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2106.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:06.480 - 35:07.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2106.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2107.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> defizit\u00e4r<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:07.080 - 35:07.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2107.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2107.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:07.220 - 35:07.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2107.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2107.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:07.340 - 35:07.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2107.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2107.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unterwegs?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:08.400 - 35:08.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2108.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2108.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Okay,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:08.920 - 35:09.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2108.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2109.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:09.020 - 35:09.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2109.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2109.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frage<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:09.300 - 35:09.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2109.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2109.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcberlasse<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:09.640 - 35:09.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2109.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2109.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_15\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:09.780 - 35:10.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2109.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2110.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_44\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2111.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2149.46\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"35:11.560 - 35:49.460\">[35:11]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:11.560 - 35:12.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2111.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2112\" data-confidence=\"1\">Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:12.000 - 35:12.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2112\" data-end-seconds=\"2112.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> w\u00fcrde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:12.360 - 35:12.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2112.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2112.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eher<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:12.540 - 35:12.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2112.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2112.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:12.660 - 35:12.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2112.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2112.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> fragen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:13.140 - 35:13.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2113.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2113.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:13.400 - 35:13.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2113.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2113.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:13.560 - 35:13.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2113.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2113.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:13.720 - 35:14.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2113.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2114.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Brille<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:14.060 - 35:14.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2114.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2114.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:14.420 - 35:15.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2114.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2115.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Defizitorientierung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:15.540 - 35:16.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2115.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2116.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> betrachtet,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:16.080 - 35:16.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2116.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2116.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:16.280 - 35:16.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2116.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2116.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> siehst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:16.580 - 35:16.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2116.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2116.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:17.260 - 35:17.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2117.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2117.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:17.460 - 35:17.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2117.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2117.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:17.660 - 35:17.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2117.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2117.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:17.760 - 35:17.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2117.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2117.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sch\u00f6ne<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:17.940 - 35:18.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2117.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2118.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Variante.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:18.460 - 35:19.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2118.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2119.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:19.260 - 35:19.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2119.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2119.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mag<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:19.440 - 35:19.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2119.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2119.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:19.580 - 35:19.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2119.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2119.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:19.680 - 35:19.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2119.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2119.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:19.840 - 35:20.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2119.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2120.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Brillentr\u00e4ger<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:20.380 - 35:20.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2120.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2120.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:20.560 - 35:21.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2120.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2121.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Brillenmetapher<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:21.740 - 35:22.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2121.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2122.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unterher,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:22.240 - 35:22.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2122.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2122.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:22.380 - 35:22.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2122.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2122.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:22.480 - 35:22.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2122.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2122.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:22.560 - 35:22.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2122.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2122.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> immer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:22.740 - 35:23.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2122.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2123.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> heranziehe.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:24.040 - 35:24.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2124.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2124.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thomas,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:24.580 - 35:24.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2124.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2124.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:24.700 - 35:24.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2124.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2124.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> freue<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:24.880 - 35:25.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2124.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2125.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:25.080 - 35:25.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2125.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2125.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:25.160 - 35:25.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2125.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2125.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:25.260 - 35:25.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2125.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2125.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:25.400 - 35:25.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2125.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2125.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dort<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:25.540 - 35:25.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2125.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2125.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:25.780 - 35:26.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2125.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2126.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> werden.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:26.320 - 35:26.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2126.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2126.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:26.560 - 35:26.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2126.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2126.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:26.700 - 35:26.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2126.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2126.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:27.280 - 35:27.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2127.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2127.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sascha.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:27.580 - 35:27.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2127.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2127.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:27.640 - 35:28.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2127.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2128.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bedanke<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:28.020 - 35:28.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2128.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2128.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:28.180 - 35:28.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2128.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2128.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erstmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:28.380 - 35:28.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2128.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2128.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:28.560 - 35:28.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2128.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2128.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:28.700 - 35:29.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2128.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2129.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Moment,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:29.240 - 35:29.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2129.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2129.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:29.400 - 35:29.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2129.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2129.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:29.680 - 35:30.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2129.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2130.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:30.400 - 35:30.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2130.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2130.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:30.760 - 35:31.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2130.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2131.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:31.080 - 35:31.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2131.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2131.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> GamePentagon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:31.840 - 35:32.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2131.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2132.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:32.440 - 35:33.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2132.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2133.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> leichtg\u00e4ngige<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:33.160 - 35:33.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2133.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2133.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Art<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:33.320 - 35:33.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2133.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2133.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:33.500 - 35:33.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2133.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2133.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Weise<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:33.940 - 35:35.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2133.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2135.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besprochen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:35.080 - 35:35.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2135.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2135.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:35.280 - 35:35.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2135.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2135.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:35.420 - 35:35.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2135.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2135.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hoffentlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:35.880 - 35:36.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2135.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2136.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:36.160 - 35:36.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2136.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2136.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:36.440 - 35:37.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2136.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2137.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diejenigen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:37.500 - 35:37.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2137.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2137.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:37.580 - 35:37.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2137.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2137.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:37.780 - 35:38.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2137.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2138.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:38.060 - 35:39.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2138.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2139.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> TA-Sprache<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:39.800 - 35:40.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2139.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2140.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:40.100 - 35:40.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2140.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2140.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:40.440 - 35:41.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2140.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2141.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ge\u00fcbt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:41.040 - 35:41.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2141.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2141.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:41.780 - 35:42.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2141.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2142.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> keineswegs<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:42.200 - 35:42.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2142.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2142.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> defizit\u00e4r,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:42.980 - 35:43.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2142.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2143.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:43.100 - 35:43.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2143.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2143.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:43.320 - 35:43.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2143.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2143.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:43.520 - 35:43.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2143.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2143.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ge\u00fcbt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:43.940 - 35:44.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2143.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2144.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> drin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:44.180 - 35:44.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2144.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2144.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:44.700 - 35:44.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2144.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2144.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:44.860 - 35:45.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2144.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2145.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:45.420 - 35:46.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2145.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2146.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eing\u00e4ngig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:46.060 - 35:46.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2146.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2146.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dargestellt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:46.460 - 35:46.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2146.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2146.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hast.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:46.760 - 35:46.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2146.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2146.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:46.940 - 35:47.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2146.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2147.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:47.180 - 35:47.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2147.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2147.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:47.680 - 35:47.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2147.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2147.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> merke,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:48.000 - 35:48.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2148\" data-end-seconds=\"2148\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:48.000 - 35:48.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2148\" data-end-seconds=\"2148.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:48.080 - 35:48.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2148.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2148.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> echt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:48.260 - 35:48.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2148.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2148.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Spa\u00df<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:48.580 - 35:48.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2148.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2148.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> an<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:48.720 - 35:48.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2148.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2148.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diesem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:48.920 - 35:49.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2148.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2149.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Einf\u00fcgen.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_45\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2150.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2188.28\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"35:50.320 - 36:28.280\">[35:50]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:50.320 - 35:50.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2150.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2150.8\" data-confidence=\"1\">Wunderbar.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:51.100 - 35:51.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2151.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2151.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Machst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:51.460 - 35:51.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2151.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2151.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:51.500 - 35:52.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2151.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2152.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirklich.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:52.820 - 35:53.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2152.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2153.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:53.300 - 35:53.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2153.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2153.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hinterlasse<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:53.660 - 35:53.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2153.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2153.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:53.820 - 35:53.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2153.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2153.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:53.980 - 35:54.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2153.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2154.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Defizit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:55.200 - 35:55.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2155.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2155.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:55.680 - 35:56.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2155.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2156.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erfreue<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:56.160 - 35:56.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2156.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2156.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:56.340 - 35:56.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2156.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2156.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gerade<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:56.600 - 35:56.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2156.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2156.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> daran.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:57.060 - 35:57.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2157.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2157.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:57.320 - 35:57.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2157.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2157.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:57.440 - 35:57.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2157.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2157.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:57.600 - 35:57.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2157.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2157.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:57.700 - 35:57.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2157.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2157.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:57.840 - 35:58.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2157.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2158.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Freude,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:58.260 - 35:58.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2158.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2158.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:58.320 - 35:58.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2158.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2158.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:58.440 - 35:58.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2158.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2158.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:58.760 - 35:59.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2158.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2159.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diskutieren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:59.280 - 35:59.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2159.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2159.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:59.400 - 35:59.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2159.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2159.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:59.540 - 36:00.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2159.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2160.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:00.060 - 36:00.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2160.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2160.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aspekte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:00.740 - 36:00.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2160.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2160.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> des<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:00.980 - 36:01.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2160.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2161.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Game-Pentagons<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:01.660 - 36:02.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2161.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2162.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:02.440 - 36:03.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2162.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2163.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sichtbarer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:03.180 - 36:03.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2163.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2163.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:03.400 - 36:03.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2163.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2163.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> klarer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:03.960 - 36:04.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2163.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2164.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:04.600 - 36:04.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2164.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2164.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:04.720 - 36:04.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2164.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2164.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:04.900 - 36:05.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2164.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2165.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:05.060 - 36:05.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2165.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2165.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:05.160 - 36:05.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2165.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2165.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:05.300 - 36:05.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2165.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2165.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anderen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:05.500 - 36:05.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2165.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2165.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:05.660 - 36:05.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2165.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2165.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> machen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:06.040 - 36:06.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2166.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2166.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:06.160 - 36:06.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2166.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2166.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:06.660 - 36:06.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2166.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2166.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> werden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:06.880 - 36:07.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2166.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2167.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schauen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:07.240 - 36:07.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2167.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2167.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:07.320 - 36:07.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2167.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2167.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:07.480 - 36:07.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2167.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2167.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:07.740 - 36:08.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2167.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2168.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beim<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:08.060 - 36:08.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2168.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2168.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Lehrendentreffen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:08.760 - 36:08.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2168.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2168.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:08.880 - 36:08.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2168.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2168.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:08.980 - 36:09.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2168.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2169.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Pr\u00fcfungen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:09.460 - 36:10.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2169.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2170.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ersichtlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:10.640 - 36:10.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2170.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2170.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:11.280 - 36:11.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2171.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2171.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Komm<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:11.560 - 36:11.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2171.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2171.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:11.740 - 36:11.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2171.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2171.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:11.900 - 36:12.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2171.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2172.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:12.060 - 36:12.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2172.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2172.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:12.740 - 36:13.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2172.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2173.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:13.220 - 36:13.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2173.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2173.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:13.440 - 36:13.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2173.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2173.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:13.600 - 36:13.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2173.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2173.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:13.720 - 36:14.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2173.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2174.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> R\u00f6ssrad.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:14.940 - 36:15.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2174.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2175.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:15.420 - 36:15.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2175.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2175.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:16.400 - 36:16.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2176.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2176.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:16.560 - 36:16.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2176.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2176.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:16.720 - 36:16.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2176.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2176.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:16.860 - 36:16.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2176.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2176.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mal.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:16.960 - 36:17.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2176.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2177.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:17.080 - 36:17.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2177.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2177.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gerne.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:18.180 - 36:18.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2178.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2178.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hab<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:18.420 - 36:18.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2178.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2178.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:18.580 - 36:18.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2178.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2178.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:18.760 - 36:19.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2178.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2179.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:19.520 - 36:19.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2179.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2179.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ciao.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:20.180 - 36:20.720, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2180.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2180.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:20.720 - 36:21.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2180.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2181\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Game<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:21.000 - 36:21.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2181\" data-end-seconds=\"2181.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Pentagon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:22.140 - 36:22.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2182.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2182.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:22.700 - 36:22.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2182.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2182.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:22.940 - 36:23.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2182.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2183.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:23.120 - 36:23.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2183.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2183.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thema.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:23.760 - 36:24.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2183.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2184.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Damals<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:24.080 - 36:24.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2184.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2184.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:24.260 - 36:24.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2184.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2184.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thorsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:24.660 - 36:24.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2184.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2184.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> G\u00e4ck.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:25.360 - 36:25.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2185.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2185.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> In<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:25.420 - 36:25.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2185.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2185.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:25.520 - 36:26.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2185.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2186\" data-confidence=\"1\"> 84.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:26.220 - 36:26.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2186.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2186.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Episode<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:26.680 - 36:27.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2186.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2187.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:27.100 - 36:27.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2187.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2187.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:27.300 - 36:27.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2187.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2187.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thema<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:27.820 - 36:28.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2187.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2188.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gewesen.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_46\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2189.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2215.58\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"36:29.140 - 36:55.580\">[36:29]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:29.140 - 36:29.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2189.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2189.7\" data-confidence=\"1\">Heute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:29.700 - 36:29.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2189.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2189.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:29.840 - 36:29.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2189.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2189.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:29.940 - 36:30.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2189.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2190.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:30.060 - 36:30.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2190.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2190.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thomas<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:30.440 - 36:30.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2190.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2190.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wehrs<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:30.940 - 36:31.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2190.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2191.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:31.220 - 36:31.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2191.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2191.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:31.480 - 36:32.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2191.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2192.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> komplexe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:32.420 - 36:33.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2192.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2193.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Verh\u00e4ltnis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:33.100 - 36:33.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2193.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2193.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:33.360 - 36:34.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2193.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2194.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dramatr\u00e4ger<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:34.180 - 36:34.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2194.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2194.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:34.300 - 36:34.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2194.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2194.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Game<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:34.500 - 36:34.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2194.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2194.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Pentagon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:34.840 - 36:35.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2194.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2195.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gesprochen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:35.300 - 36:35.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2195.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2195.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:35.700 - 36:35.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2195.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2195.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:35.880 - 36:36.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2195.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2196.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:36.020 - 36:36.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2196.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2196.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anwendung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:36.700 - 36:36.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2196.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2196.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:36.980 - 36:37.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2196.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2197.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:37.240 - 36:37.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2197.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2197.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:37.380 - 36:37.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2197.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2197.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Praxis,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:38.000 - 36:38.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2198\" data-end-seconds=\"2198.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:38.040 - 36:38.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2198.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2198.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:38.140 - 36:38.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2198.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2198.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> praktischen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:38.560 - 36:39.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2198.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2199.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Beratung.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:39.400 - 36:39.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2199.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2199.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:39.880 - 36:39.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2199.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2199.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:39.980 - 36:40.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2199.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2200.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:40.100 - 36:40.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2200.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2200.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:40.240 - 36:40.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2200.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2200.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:40.480 - 36:40.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2200.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2200.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gekommen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:40.840 - 36:40.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2200.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2200.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:40.940 - 36:41.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2200.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2201.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:41.060 - 36:41.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2201.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2201.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nat\u00fcrlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:41.400 - 36:41.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2201.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2201.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:41.560 - 36:41.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2201.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2201.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:41.700 - 36:42.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2201.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2202.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Supervision<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:42.340 - 36:42.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2202.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2202.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:42.640 - 36:43.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2202.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2203.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Beratern<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:43.320 - 36:44.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2203.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2204.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hervorragend<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:44.340 - 36:44.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2204.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2204.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geeignet<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:44.860 - 36:45.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2204.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2205.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:45.080 - 36:45.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2205.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2205.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:45.660 - 36:45.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2205.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2205.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:45.780 - 36:46.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2205.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2206.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Unterschiedlichkeiten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:46.940 - 36:47.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2206.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2207.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:47.140 - 36:47.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2207.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2207.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:47.420 - 36:48.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2207.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2208.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anwendung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:48.480 - 36:48.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2208.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2208.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:48.620 - 36:48.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2208.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2208.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:48.840 - 36:48.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2208.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2208.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:48.960 - 36:49.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2208.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2209.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:49.080 - 36:49.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2209.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2209.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> konzeptionellen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:49.860 - 36:50.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2209.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2210.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Darstellung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:50.540 - 36:51.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2210.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2211.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> herausgearbeitet,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:52.040 - 36:52.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2212.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2212.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:52.160 - 36:52.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2212.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2212.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:52.280 - 36:52.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2212.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2212.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:52.420 - 36:52.680, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2212.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2212.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:52.680 - 36:53.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2212.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2213.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> pr\u00e4sentiert<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:53.640 - 36:53.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2213.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2213.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:54.020 - 36:54.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2214.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2214.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:54.100 - 36:54.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2214.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2214.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:54.240 - 36:54.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2214.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2214.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unterschiedlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:54.840 - 36:55.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2214.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2215.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> damit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:55.060 - 36:55.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2215.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2215.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> agieren.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6540250\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[37:02]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Abschluss und Ausblick<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_47\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2215.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2267.04\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"36:55.740 - 37:47.040\">[36:55]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:55.740 - 36:56.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2215.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2216.14\" data-confidence=\"1\">Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:56.140 - 36:56.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2216.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2216.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:56.280 - 36:56.400, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2216.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2216.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> w\u00e4re<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:56.400 - 36:56.560, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2216.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2216.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:56.560 - 36:56.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2216.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2216.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nochmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:56.820 - 36:57.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2216.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2217.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:57.160 - 36:57.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2217.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2217.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:57.700 - 36:58.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2217.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2218.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> theoretische<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:58.440 - 36:59.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2218.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2219.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Unterf\u00fctterung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"36:59.260 - 37:00.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2219.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2220.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dieser<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:00.060 - 37:01.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2220.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2221.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konzeption<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:01.320 - 37:01.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2221.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2221.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:01.940 - 37:02.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2221.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2222.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Relevanz.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:02.780 - 37:02.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2222.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2222.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:02.960 - 37:03.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2222.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2223.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:03.120 - 37:03.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2223.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2223.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:03.280 - 37:03.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2223.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2223.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:03.460 - 37:04.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2223.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2224.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ausschlie\u00dflich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:04.960 - 37:05.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2224.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2225.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sozusagen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:05.460 - 37:05.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2225.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2225.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:05.800 - 37:07.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2225.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2227.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Transaktionsanalytikern,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:07.380 - 37:07.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2227.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2227.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:07.920 - 37:08.140, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2227.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2228.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:08.140 - 37:08.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2228.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2228.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zuh\u00f6ren,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:09.660 - 37:10.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2229.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2230.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anheimgestellt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:10.320 - 37:11.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2230.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2231.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:11.340 - 37:11.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2231.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2231.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:11.920 - 37:12.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2231.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2232.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:12.080 - 37:12.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2232.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2232.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:12.460 - 37:12.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2232.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2232.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:12.800 - 37:13.040, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2232.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2233.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:13.040 - 37:13.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2233.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2233.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> alle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:13.280 - 37:13.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2233.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2233.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:13.480 - 37:13.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2233.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2233.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wieder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:13.700 - 37:13.840, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2233.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2233.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:13.840 - 37:14.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2233.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2234.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dabei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:14.160 - 37:14.420, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2234.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2234.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wart<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:14.420 - 37:14.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2234.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2234.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beim<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:14.640 - 37:15.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2234.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2235.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:15.180 - 37:15.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2235.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2235.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:15.640 - 37:15.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2235.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2235.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:15.820 - 37:16.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2235.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2236.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:16.020 - 37:16.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2236.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2236.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:16.660 - 37:17.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2236.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2237.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hinterlass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:17.020 - 37:17.200, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2237.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2237.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gerne<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:17.200 - 37:17.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2237.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2237.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:17.440 - 37:18.000, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2237.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2238\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Feedback<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:18.000 - 37:18.240, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2238\" data-end-seconds=\"2238.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:18.240 - 37:18.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2238.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2238.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:18.540 - 37:19.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2238.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2239.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sternebewertung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:19.700 - 37:20.080, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2239.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2240.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:20.080 - 37:20.380, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2240.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2240.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deinem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:20.380 - 37:21.500, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2240.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2241.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast-Catcher<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:21.500 - 37:21.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2241.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2241.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:21.760 - 37:21.980, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2241.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2241.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:21.980 - 37:22.280, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2241.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2242.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Google<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:22.280 - 37:22.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2242.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2242.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Business.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:23.480 - 37:23.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2243.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2243.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Empfehle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:23.960 - 37:24.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2243.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2244.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:24.120 - 37:24.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2244.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2244.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:24.540 - 37:24.700, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2244.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2244.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:24.700 - 37:24.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2244.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2244.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gerne<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:24.920 - 37:25.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2244.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2245.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weiter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:25.300 - 37:25.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2245.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2245.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:25.740 - 37:26.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2245.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2246.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> abonniere<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:26.460 - 37:26.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2246.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2246.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihn,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:26.680 - 37:26.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2246.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2246.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:26.780 - 37:26.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2246.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2246.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:26.900 - 37:27.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2246.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2247.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:27.100 - 37:27.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2247.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2247.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_6_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:27.300 - 37:27.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2247.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2247.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:27.520 - 37:28.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2247.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2248.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> abonniert<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:28.020 - 37:28.220, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2248.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2248.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hast,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:28.280 - 37:28.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2248.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2248.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:28.460 - 37:29.260, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2248.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2249.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verpasst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:29.260 - 37:29.360, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2249.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2249.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:29.360 - 37:29.640, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2249.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2249.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> keine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:29.640 - 37:30.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2249.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2250.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Episode.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:30.480 - 37:31.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2250.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2251.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:31.440 - 37:31.940, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2251.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2251.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verabschiede<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:31.940 - 37:32.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2251.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2252.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:32.120 - 37:32.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2252.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2252.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:32.340 - 37:32.880, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2252.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2252.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:32.880 - 37:33.300, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2252.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2253.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> W\u00fcnschen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:33.720 - 37:33.860, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2253.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2253.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:33.860 - 37:34.160, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2253.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2254.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:34.160 - 37:34.340, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2254.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2254.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:34.340 - 37:34.600, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2254.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2254.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mal.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:34.800 - 37:35.060, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2254.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kommt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:35.060 - 37:35.180, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2255.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:35.180 - 37:35.320, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2255.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:35.320 - 37:35.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2255.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:35.460 - 37:35.740, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2255.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2255.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:36.040 - 37:36.440, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2256.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2256.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:36.440 - 37:36.540, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2256.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2256.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:36.540 - 37:36.780, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2256.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2256.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sascha<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:36.780 - 37:37.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2256.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2257.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Weigel,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:37.420 - 37:37.520, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2257.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2257.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:37.520 - 37:37.800, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2257.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2257.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Host<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:37.800 - 37:38.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2257.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2258.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:38.120 - 37:38.960, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2258.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2258.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> INKOVEMA,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:39.040 - 37:39.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2259.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2259.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:39.100 - 37:39.480, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2259.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2259.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Institut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:39.480 - 37:39.620, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2259.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2259.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:39.620 - 37:40.020, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2259.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2260.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konflikt-<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:40.020 - 37:40.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2260.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2260.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:40.100 - 37:41.120, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2260.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2261.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Verhandlungsmanagement<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:41.120 - 37:41.920, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2261.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2261.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:41.920 - 37:42.760, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2261.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2262.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Leipzig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:42.760 - 37:43.100, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2262.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2263.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:43.100 - 37:43.580, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2263.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2263.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Partner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:43.580 - 37:43.900, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2263.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2263.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:43.900 - 37:44.660, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2263.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2264.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> professionelle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:44.660 - 37:45.460, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2264.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2265.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediations-<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:45.460 - 37:45.820, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2265.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2265.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_47_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"37:45.820 - 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