{"id":17391,"date":"2025-09-28T07:59:06","date_gmt":"2025-09-28T05:59:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/?p=17391"},"modified":"2025-09-28T08:15:11","modified_gmt":"2025-09-28T06:15:11","slug":"239-gddz-artificial-intelligence-explosives-working-world-jan-groenefeld-frank-termer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/239-gddz-artificial-intelligence-explosives-working-world-jan-groenefeld-frank-termer\/","title":{"rendered":"#239 GddZ - Artificial intelligence as an explosive in the world of work. In conversation with Jan Groenefeld and Frank Termer."},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling gradient-container-1\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>INKOVEMA-Podcast &#8222;Gut durch die Zeit&#8220;<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#239 GddZ<\/h1>\n<h1>K\u00fcnstliche Intelligenz als Sprengstoff in der Arbeitswelt<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-3 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h1>Ist KI der gegelte Praktikant im Team, den Keiner leiden kann?<\/h1><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-4 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h3><strong>Im Gespr\u00e4ch mit Jan Groenefeld und Dr. Frank Termer<\/strong><\/h3><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><div class=\"container-fluid\">\n<p class=\"page-title mb-3\"><strong>Dr. Frank Termer: <\/strong>promovierter Wirtschaftsinformatiker; Mediator und Konfliktmoderator; Experte f\u00fcr schwierige Gespr\u00e4che in der digitalen Transformation, bis 2025 Verbandsreferent (BITKOM)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"container-fluid\">\n<p class=\"p1\"><b>Jan Groenefeld: <\/b>Diplom-Informatiker; Chief Product Officer und KI-Experte bei der Rote Robben GmbH.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-5 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h3><strong>Kleine Reihe: Neue Technologien f\u00fcr Mediation und Konfliktberatung. Teil 10<\/strong><\/h3><\/h3><\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema.podigee.io\/240-239-gddz-kunstliche-intelligenz-als-sprengstoff-in-der-arbeitswelt-im-gesprach-mit-jan-groenefeld-und-frank-termer\/embed?context=external\"><\/script>\n\n\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info icons-on-outer-circle has-box-shadow\" style=\"--awb-gradient-start-position:0%;--awb-gradient-end-position:100%;--awb-linear-angle:180deg;--awb-radial-direction:circle at center center;\" data-activation-type=\"mouseover\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-wrapper\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-icons-wrapper\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"1\"><span><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"2\"><span><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"3\"><span><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"4\"><span><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"5\"><span><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"6\"><span><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-tab-link\" data-id=\"7\"><span><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas\"><\/i><\/span><\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-content-wrapper\"><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-1\" data-id=\"1\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">Innovator's Dilemma<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Das Innovator\u2019s Dilemma beschreibt das Spannungsfeld zwischen Bestehendes optimieren und Neues wagen, wobei zu langes Festhalten am Bew\u00e4hrten in die Krise f\u00fchren kann.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-2\" data-id=\"2\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">Clayton Christensen<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Clayton Christensen (1952\u20132020) war ein US-amerikanischer Wirtschaftswissenschaftler, Professor an der Harvard Business School und gilt als einer der einflussreichsten Management-Denker seiner Zeit.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-3\" data-id=\"3\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">Clayton Christensens \u201eThe Innovator\u2019s Dilemma\u201c (1997)<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Clayton Christensens \u201eThe Innovator\u2019s Dilemma\u201c (1997) ist ein einflussreiches Werk im Bereich Innovations- und Managementforschung. Kernthese: Erfolgreiche Unternehmen k\u00f6nnen scheitern, obwohl sie \u201ealles richtig machen\u201c \u2013 weil sie zu sehr auf bestehende Kunden und bestehende Technologien setzen.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-4\" data-id=\"4\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">Clayton Christensens \u201eThe Innovator\u2019s Dilemma\u201c (1997)<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Clayton Christensens \u201eThe Innovator\u2019s Dilemma\u201c (1997) ist ein einflussreiches Werk im Bereich Innovations- und Managementforschung. Kernthese: Erfolgreiche Unternehmen k\u00f6nnen scheitern, obwohl sie \u201ealles richtig machen\u201c \u2013 weil sie zu sehr auf bestehende Kunden und bestehende Technologien setzen.<\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-5\" data-id=\"5\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">2 Innovations-Typen<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Sustaining Innovations: Inkrementelle, schrittweise Verbesserungen bestehender Produkte\/Dienstleistungen f\u00fcr bestehende M\u00e4rkte (z. B. bessere Kameraaufl\u00f6sung).\nDisruptive Innovations: Neue Technologien\/Modelle, die zun\u00e4chst leistungsschw\u00e4cher wirken, g\u00fcnstiger oder einfacher sind, und neue Kundengruppen ansprechen \u2013 sp\u00e4ter aber ganze M\u00e4rkte umkrempeln (z. B. Digitalkameras vs. analoge Kameras).<\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-6\" data-id=\"6\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">Das Dilemma<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Unternehmen, die sich an ihre profitabelsten Kunden halten, ignorieren oft neue Nischenl\u00f6sungen (f\u00fcr massenhafte Anwendungsf\u00e4lle).<br \/>\nWenn diese Nischen dann f\u00fcr die Massen greifen und verbessert werden, fegen sie die alten M\u00e4rkte weg. Die einst erfolgreichen Unternehmen haben zu diesem Zeitpunkt aber den technologischen Anschluss verpasst. <\/div><\/div><div class=\"awb-circle-info awb-circles-info-content-area awb-circle-info-7\" data-id=\"7\"><div class=\"awb-circles-info-title\">Beispiele<\/div><div class=\"awb-circles-info-text\">Digitalkamera (zun\u00e4chst f\u00fcr Handys) gegen analoge Fotografie \/\/ Stahlschiffe (zun\u00e4chst f\u00fcr Kan\u00e4le) gegen Segelschiffe (Meer) \/\/ Hydraulikbagger gegen Seilbagger \/\/ E-Autos gegen Verbrenner-Autos(?) \/\/ Streaming gegen Videotheken<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><h1><strong>Inhalt<\/strong><\/h1>\n<h2><strong>Kapitel:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<div class=\"\">\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">0:07 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Herzlich willkommen zum Podcast Gut durch die Zeit<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">1:01 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>KI als Sprengstoff f\u00fcr die Arbeitswelt<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">6:35 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Der Hype um neue Technologien<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">12:56 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Der soziale Sprengstoff der KI<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">19:48 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Die Herausforderungen der Zusammenarbeit mit KI<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">28:11 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Kreativit\u00e4t im Zusammenspiel mit KI<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">32:49 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Fazit und Ausblick auf die Zukunft<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<h2><strong>ausf\u00fchrliche Zusammenfassung<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>In dieser Folge des Podcasts \u201eGut durch die Zeit\u201c nehme ich, Sascha Weigel, gemeinsam mit meinen Studiog\u00e4sten Frank Termer und Jan Croenefeld die Herausforderungen und Chancen in der Arbeitswelt im Kontext neuer Technologien, insbesondere der K\u00fcnstlichen Intelligenz (KI), in den Blick. Wir diskutieren, wie aktuelle technologische Entwicklungen als Sprengstoff f\u00fcr die Arbeitswelt fungieren und welche gesellschaftlichen und individuellen Auswirkungen sie mit sich bringen.<\/p>\n<p>Unter der Pr\u00e4misse, dass die Digitalisierung insbesondere die Schnittstelle zwischen Mensch und Technik gepr\u00e4gt hat, beleuchtet Frank die Notwendigkeit, Systeme menschenzentriert zu gestalten. Jan, mit seinem Hintergrund in Human-Computer-Interaction, teilt seine Einsichten dar\u00fcber, wie Menschen auf neue Technologien reagieren und welche kritischen Fragen in diesem Kontext relevant sind. Besonders geht es um die Frage, was neue Technologien f\u00fcr das individuelle Berufsfeld bedeuten und welche Werte sie tats\u00e4chlich bringen.<\/p>\n<p>Ein zentrales Thema unserer Diskussion ist der Effekt der KI auf die Wahrnehmung menschlicher Kompetenz. Wir stellen fest, dass K\u00fcnstliche Intelligenz oft mit \u00fcbersteigerten Erwartungen wahrgenommen wird, die zu einem Dunning-Kruger-Effekt f\u00fchren: Wo Menschen ihre F\u00e4higkeiten \u00fcbersch\u00e4tzen und f\u00e4lschlicherweise die Technologie als \u00fcberlegen einordnen. Jan hebt hervor, dass KI nur als unterst\u00fctzendes Werkzeug dient und nicht als Ersatz f\u00fcr menschliche Kreativit\u00e4t und Expertise.<\/p>\n<p>Im Verlauf des Gespr\u00e4chs diskutieren wir auch die sozialen Herausforderungen, die sich aus dem Einsatz von KI ergeben: Gibt es eine Gefahr der Uniformierung in der Qualit\u00e4t der Arbeit? Und wie gehen wir mit der Angst um, durch KI ersetzt zu werden? Wir beleuchten die Bedeutung von technologischem Verst\u00e4ndnis und einem proaktiven Umgang mit KI, um Angst zu \u00fcberwinden und Chancen zu erkennen.<\/p>\n<p>Wir schlie\u00dfen mit der \u00dcberlegung, wie wir eine symbiotische Beziehung zwischen Mensch und Maschine aufbauen k\u00f6nnen. Wir ermutigen die Zuh\u00f6rer, sich aktiv mit dieser Technologie auseinanderzusetzen, um die Vorteile f\u00fcr sich zu nutzen, anstatt sich von \u00c4ngsten leiten zu lassen. Das Ziel sollte sein, KI als einen Coach zu sehen, der einen selbst in der pers\u00f6nlichen und professionellen Entwicklung unterst\u00fctzt.<\/p>\n<p>In der Schlussrunde betonen wir die Dringlichkeit, sich mit diesen Themen auseinanderzusetzen, und setzen uns das Ziel, diese Diskussion in zuk\u00fcnftigen Episoden weiterzuf\u00fchren. Der Austausch \u00f6ffnet das Feld f\u00fcr zahlreiche Fragen und den gemeinsamen Erkenntnisgewinn, und wir freuen uns auf die n\u00e4chste Episode, in der wir tiefer in die Materie eintauchen werden.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-1 content-boxes-icon-boxed content-left\" style=\"--awb-title-color:#607d8b;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-margin-top:20px;--awb-margin-bottom:20px;--awb-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-circle-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-item-margin-bottom:40px;\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div style=\"--awb-backgroundcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;\" class=\"fusion-column content-box-column content-box-column content-box-column-1 col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-sm-12 fusion-content-box-hover content-box-column-last content-box-column-last-in-row\"><div class=\"col content-box-wrapper content-wrapper-background content-wrapper-boxed link-area-link-icon link-type-button icon-hover-animation-fade\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div class=\"heading heading-with-icon icon-left\"><a class=\"heading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-mediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><div class=\"icon\"><i style=\"border-color:#81a0b8;border-width:1px;background-color:#d62f31;box-sizing:content-box;height:40px;width:40px;line-height:40px;top:-70px;margin-left:-20px;border-radius:50%;font-size:20px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"fontawesome-icon fa-bullhorn fas circle-yes\"><\/i><\/div><h2 class=\"content-box-heading fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"--h2_typography-font-size:18px;--fontSize:18;line-height:1.5;\">Mediationsausbildung<\/h2><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><div class=\"content-container\">\n<p>Unsere Ausbildung in Mediation und Konfliktmanagement in der Wirtschafts- und Arbeitswelt,<\/p>\n<p>geleitet von Prof. Dr. Sascha Weigel.<\/p>\n<p>Neustart jeweils j\u00e4hrlich im M\u00e4rz und Oktober.<\/p>\n<p>Jetzt f\u00fcr den n\u00e4chsten Kurs anmelden!<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><a class=\"fusion-read-more-button fusion-content-box-button fusion-button button-default fusion-button-default-size button- button-flat\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-mediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"fusion-button-text\">Mehr Informationen hier...<\/span><\/a><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-2 content-boxes-icon-boxed content-left\" style=\"--awb-title-color:#607d8b;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-margin-top:20px;--awb-margin-bottom:20px;--awb-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-circle-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-item-margin-bottom:40px;\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div style=\"--awb-backgroundcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;\" class=\"fusion-column content-box-column content-box-column content-box-column-1 col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-sm-12 fusion-content-box-hover content-box-column-last content-box-column-last-in-row\"><div class=\"col content-box-wrapper content-wrapper-background content-wrapper-boxed link-area-link-icon link-type-button icon-hover-animation-fade\" data-animationOffset=\"top-into-view\"><div class=\"heading heading-with-icon icon-left\"><a class=\"heading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-wirtschaftsmediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><div class=\"icon\"><i style=\"border-color:#81a0b8;border-width:1px;background-color:#d62f31;box-sizing:content-box;height:40px;width:40px;line-height:40px;top:-70px;margin-left:-20px;border-radius:50%;font-size:20px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"fontawesome-icon fa-info-circle fas circle-yes\"><\/i><\/div><h2 class=\"content-box-heading fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"--h2_typography-font-size:18px;--fontSize:18;line-height:1.5;\">Ausbildung Organisationsmediation - Mediation in und f\u00fcr Organisationen.<\/h2><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><div class=\"content-container\">\n<p>Organisationsmediation ist die Bearbeitung von Konflikten, die in der Wirtschafts -und Arbeitswelt aufkommen. Sie findet in, mit und f\u00fcr die Organisation statt \u2013 indem den relevanten Organisationsmitgliedern eine angemessene Bearbeitung der Konflikte erm\u00f6glicht wird.<\/p>\n<p>Wir bilden Sie daf\u00fcr aus oder professionalisieren Ihre mediatorische, konfliktberaterische Vorgehensweise. Wir starten unsere Fortbildungsreihe regelm\u00e4\u00dfig im M\u00e4rz eines Jahres.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><a class=\"fusion-read-more-button fusion-content-box-button fusion-button button-default fusion-button-default-size button- button-flat\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-wirtschaftsmediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"fusion-button-text\">Mehr Informationen hier...<\/span><\/a><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-3\"><div class=\"w-full\">\n<div class=\"py-12 px-2\" data-testid=\"transcript-editor\">\n<h2 id=\"transcript-editor\" class=\"text-2xl pb-8 px-&#091;11px&#093; font-bold tracking-tight scroll-mt-20\"><strong>Vollst\u00e4ndige Transkription <\/strong><\/h2>\n<p class=\"text-2xl pb-8 px-&#091;11px&#093; font-bold tracking-tight scroll-mt-20\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong><em>(KI-generiert)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\">\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"w-full\">\n<div class=\"py-12 px-2\" data-testid=\"transcript-editor\">\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_0\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"0.02\" data-end-seconds=\"8.06\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_59\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2805.47\" data-end-seconds=\"2872.77\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<footer id=\"sticky-footer\" class=\"fixed bottom-0 left-0 right-0 z-50\">\n<div class=\"bg-white flex flex-col w-full justify-center print:hidden\">\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"w-full\">\n<div class=\"py-12 px-2\" data-testid=\"transcript-editor\">\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_0\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"0.02\" data-end-seconds=\"6.62\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:00]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Dieses Selbst-als-Superheld-Aufspielen, nur weil man jetzt meint, dann w\u00e4re mit KI, der allen drei Stunden voraus ist, erzeugt,<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6420147\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[0:07]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Herzlich willkommen zum Podcast Gut durch die Zeit<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_1\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"6.7\" data-end-seconds=\"30.1\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:06]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">ob so ein Generalpark gedacht. Herzlich willkommen zum Podcast Gut durch die Zeit. Der Podcast rund um Mediation, Konfliktcoaching und Organisationsberatung, ein Podcast von <span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.86 - 35:04.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.28\" data-confidence=\"1\">INKOVEMA<\/span><\/span>. Ich bin Sascha Weigel und mit mir hier im Studio Frank Termer. Und wenn das der Fall ist, dann geht es um neue Technologien, die nur die wenigsten fest im Griff haben. Hallo Frank. Hallo Sascha, freut mich sehr, dass wir mal wieder zusammen hier im Studio sind.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_2\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"30.74\" data-end-seconds=\"54.6\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:30]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, und zwar nicht alleine. Wir haben uns noch zwei Leute eingeladen. Einmal Jan Groenefeld und dann nochmal Jan Groenefeld. Und den einen haben wir jetzt wieder rausgeholt und dann sind wir n\u00e4mlich auch gut im Ton. Hallo Jan, wir hatten ja unsere Schwierigkeiten, technisch hier zusammenzukommen. Hallo Sascha, hallo Frank. Ja, v\u00f6llig richtig, aber gel\u00f6st gl\u00fccklicherweise. Genau, und ich habe das aufgegriffen, weil das ist so sinnbildlich f\u00fcr unsere<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6420148\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[1:01]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>KI als Sprengstoff f\u00fcr die Arbeitswelt<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_3\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"54.6\" data-end-seconds=\"92.98\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Situation. Wir wollen uns ja angucken, KI, neue Technologien als Sprengstoff f\u00fcr die Arbeitswelt. Wir haben einen eng getakteten Kalender, wir haben einen Termin gemacht und dann m\u00fcssen wir uns erstmal mit Technik rumschlagen und das mit zwei Experten. Ich steige mal so ein, Jan, bevor wir sozusagen direkt zu dir kommen, dass Frank nochmal darlegt, weshalb er dich hier im Podcast haben wollte. Wir haben ja hier eine l\u00e4ngere Reihe schon und vielleicht ist das auch nochmal ganz interessant f\u00fcr dich zu h\u00f6ren, wie wir dich gesehen haben, mit welchen Augen und dann sind wir gleich bei dir. Frank. Ich bin gespannt.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_4\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"94.06\" data-end-seconds=\"163.82\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[1:34]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, super gern, Sascha. Genau, wir hatten ja immer schon \u00fcberlegt, wen m\u00fcssen wir hier ins Studio holen, um auch den Zuh\u00f6rerinnen und Zuh\u00f6rern da drau\u00dfen einen guten Mehrwert zu bieten. Und neue Technologien hat f\u00fcr mich immer ganz viel auch mit den Menschen nat\u00fcrlich zu tun, die mir auch hier im Podcast in den Fokus nehmen. Und das ist im technologischen Umfeld immer sehr h\u00e4ufig mit User Experience und UX-Design verbunden. Da habe ich Jan schon vor etlichen Jahren kennengelernt, genau in diesem Kontext. Also wie gestaltet man Systeme menschenzentriert, dass sie auch einen guten, hohen Mehrwert liefern k\u00f6nnen. Also nicht nur ihre Selbstwegen erstellt werden, sondern wirklich den Impact hinterlassen. Und Jan ist mir von Beginn an im Ged\u00e4chtnis geblieben, wenn er umgeblieben, als sehr kompetenter, aber auch sehr kritischer Zeitgeist, wenn es um neue Technologien und den Menschen an sich geht. Das hei\u00dft, mit ihm haben wir hier jemanden, der sich sehr, sehr gut in der Technik auskennt, der auch wei\u00df, wovon er spricht, wenn es um Menschenzentrierung geht. Und der aber auf der anderen Seite auch einen gewissen kritischen Abstand hat gegen\u00fcber diesen Technologien. Also nicht jemand, der das ganz toll findet, das zwar schon, aber nicht um seine Selbstwillen, sondern immer fragt, wozu machen wir das und wof\u00fcr ist das gut. Und deshalb war f\u00fcr mich Jan eine der ersten Wahlen hier, zu sagen, Mensch, den m\u00fcssen wir unbedingt hier ins Studio bringen. Aber Jan, gern mal zu dir. Hi, ihr beiden. Erkennst du dich wieder?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_5\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"164.42\" data-end-seconds=\"206.68\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[2:44]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Total. Wie Frank gerade sagte, wir haben ja schon einige Veranstaltungen zusammen bei Bitkom dann auch zusammen gemacht. Auch wenn der Frank dich einf\u00fchrt, kompetent, meinungsstark und kritisch, dann f\u00fchlt man sich nat\u00fcrlich gut wiedergegeben. Ja, Mensch und Technik, das ist mein Thema und mittlerweile seit 20 Jahren, ich habe vor Urzeiten mal Informatik studiert und habe aber schon im Studium eben festgestellt, dass rein Coden nicht meins ist, habe aber damals schon einen Prof gehabt, der mir die HCI, die <strong>Human-Computer-Interaction<\/strong>, n\u00e4her gebracht hat. Und da habe ich gemerkt, okay, Mensch und Technik, das ist das, wo ich eigentlich hin m\u00f6chte. Ich m\u00f6chte verstehen, wie Menschen reagieren auf Technik oder auch nicht reagieren und wie man Technik f\u00fcr den Menschen einsetzen kann und eben nicht andersrum den Menschen an der Technik auszurichten.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_6\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"207.3\" data-end-seconds=\"281.62\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[3:27]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also diese Schnittstelle, wo Mensch auf Technik trifft, das ist ein Untersuchungsfeld? Das ist ja nicht nur mein Untersuchungsfeld, das klingt sehr wissenschaftlich in der Erde der Pragmatiker. Das ist mein T\u00e4tigkeitsfeld. Tats\u00e4chlich weniger m\u00f6chte ich das auf hochwissenschaftlicher, kognitionswissenschaftlicher Ebene verstehen. Finde ich interessant mal zu lesen, aber da will ich gar nicht rein. Ich m\u00f6chte wirklich im t\u00e4glichen, wie jetzt auch mit der KI, M\u00f6glichkeiten schaffen, dass wir als Menschen was von der Technik haben. Das bedeutet f\u00fcr mich im ersten Schritt, dass das Neue, und wir haben ja hier die neuen Technologien im Blick, per se nicht sozusagen das Bessere ist f\u00fcr dich, sondern dass du wirklich erstmal auf den zweiten und dritten Blick guckst, wo bietet das tats\u00e4chlich einen Mehrwert? Und was macht sozusagen diese Technik anders als die vorhergehenden? Wenn wir uns jetzt KI annehmen oder als Fokus anvisieren, was ist das Besondere von der Schnittstelle her gedacht? Also wie treffen wir auf KI? Oh, mit v\u00f6llig \u00fcbersteigerter Erwartungshaltung. Das sagt es vielleicht in einem Satz. Aber du hast gerade einen ganz wichtigen Satz im Nebensatz gesagt. Was ist besser oder schlechter? Das ist genau das Absurde. KI suggeriert uns, dass alles besser wird damit. Das ist der Zeitgeist. Das Neue hat schillernden Vorsprung vor dem Alten.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_7\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"282.22\" data-end-seconds=\"328.18\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[4:42]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, und es hat Vorsprung im Narrativ, was man uns da ins derer, die die Produkte ins Spiel bringen, dann gerne so aufoptuiert. Aber die Wirklichkeit ist, es ist \u00fcberhaupt gar nicht besser, es ist auch nicht schlechter, es ist so wie vorher. Es ist ein Werkzeug, das kannst du verwenden, um zu Mehrwerten zu f\u00fchren oder kannst es auch lassen. Es ist auch kein Werkzeug, das auf alles passt. Das ist genau diese Fehlleitung im Narrativ, die mich auch immer weiter st\u00f6rt gerade. Aber das ist doch, glaube ich, ein Effekt, den wir bei anderen Technologien fr\u00fcher auch schon gesehen haben. Immer wenn man was Neues eingef\u00fchrt hat, gibt es erstmal in der Produktivit\u00e4t echten Downer, weil man erstmal lernen muss, damit umzugehen und man kommt nicht zurecht und es funktioniert nicht so gut. Der Output ist wesentlich schlechter, aber wenn man dieses Tal irgendwann mal durchschritten hat, dann wird es dann doch ja irgendwie besser, oder nicht? Das ist der klassische <strong>Gardner-Hype-Cycle<\/strong>, der funktioniert f\u00fcr so gut wie alles, ja.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_8\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"328.73\" data-end-seconds=\"395.33\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[5:28]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">KI ist aber mehr eine Achterbahn. Das ist eben nicht nur dieser eine Berg und dann Schussfahrt und dann orientieren wir uns. Es ist viel wilder. Es ist eine sogenannte Sprunginnovation. So muss man sich das auch vorstellen. Es ist eben nicht diese pr\u00e4diktive Kurve. Wahrscheinlich, wenn man in zehn Jahren zur\u00fcckschaut, dann irgendwie doch. Aber wahrgenommen ist es ein permanentes auf dem Trampolin unterwegs sein. Und das macht alle total wild, total k\u00fcrre, in alle Richtungen im \u00dcbrigen. Sowohl in der \u00dcbersch\u00e4tzung als auch in der Untersch\u00e4tzung. Das finde ich auch mal wieder absurd. Ja, das kann ich auch best\u00e4tigen. Man springt auf dem einen und sieht schon, dass ein Neues aufgebaut wird, Trampolin, und man hat permanent den Eindruck, hinterher zu sein, hinter der Welle zu sein. Das finde ich tats\u00e4chlich das Erstaunliche daran. Aber nichtsdestotrotz ist es auch wirklich nur eine Frage von Zeitgeist, dass unhinterfragt das Neue daran automatisch einen Wert verspricht. Das ist ja nicht nur bei Technologie so, das ist auch in anderen Angelegenheiten so, dass das Neue immer so nicht nur j\u00fcnger und dynamischer, sondern eben auch was besser ist, was irgendwie weitertr\u00e4gt. Aber bei KI finde ich das schon wirklich nicht mehr feierlich.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6420149\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[6:35]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Der Hype um neue Technologien<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_9\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"395.93\" data-end-seconds=\"471.81\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[6:35]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wie kommt das? Also hat das was mit der Qualit\u00e4t und der St\u00e4rke der Technik zu tun? Reden wir uns das alles nur ein? Ja, die Wahrheit liegt in der Mitte, w\u00fcrde ich sagen. Also ich bin ja, also neben diesem Informatikstudium und dann habe ich einen Crack-Record von 20 Jahren digitaler Produktentwicklung und aktuell habe ich ja die Position des Chief Product und AI Expert bei uns in einem KI-Startup und bin ja auch Mitgr\u00fcnder und entsprechend muss ich mich damit super intensiv auseinandersetzen. Ganz viel, gerade in produktstrategischer Entscheidung ist, schnell zu verstehen, was ist real, also was geht auch schon und was kann man in einem Produkt auch guten Gewissens anbieten und wo wird der Mensch immer f\u00fchrend bleiben. Also wie soll ich sagen, wenn man dieser Geschichte von Sam Altmann und Co. Glauben schenkt, dann kannst du uns eigentlich alle abschaffen, Sascha. Dann k\u00f6nnen wir uns jetzt alle gem\u00fctlich zur\u00fccklehnen. Die Wertsch\u00f6pfung kommt von alleine, die Agenten machen die Arbeit. Das ist Bl\u00f6dsinn und es ist auch gar kein w\u00fcnschenswertes Szenario. Also in beiden Ebenen nicht. Jetzt ist es nun mal auch gerade so, dass die Welt ein bisschen freidreht, vielleicht auch noch freier, noch wilder als ein VUCA, ein BANI, diese ganzen Konzepte, die wir schreiben, dass wir alle irgendwie gerade ein bisschen hasseln mit der Situation.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_10\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"472.55\" data-end-seconds=\"501.85\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[7:52]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und da sind wir total anf\u00e4llig f\u00fcr genau ein solches Narrativ. KI macht alles besser. KI bringt uns aus der Krise. KI macht eine sch\u00f6ne neue Welt. Das finden wir irgendwie geil. Und deswegen ist das ein feuchter Traum der Hypereffizienz, dem wir da folgen wollen. Das w\u00e4re ja eine ganz beruhigende Nachricht. Wir haben uns ja sozusagen Sprengstoff f\u00fcr die Arbeitswelt und der Blickrichtung verschrieben, wenn das stimmen w\u00fcrde, was gesagt wird, w\u00e4re das Problem erst richtig da.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_11\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"502.54\" data-end-seconds=\"572.98\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[8:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Weil ja irgendwie deutlich wird, ich will ja gar nicht eine Maschine haben, die das besser macht als ich, der dann nach Hause geht. Und wie kriege ich dann die n\u00e4chsten Jahrzehnte meines Lebens finanziert? Ja, das ist ja der private Fokus, aber dazu kommt ja auch der gesellschaftliche Fokus, den du dann aufmachst, wenn das nicht nur einen betrifft, sondern ganz, ganz viele. Und diese Angst von KI ersetzt zu werden, die haben wir ja auch schon mal besprochen. Die kommt ja auch immer wieder, auch in Gespr\u00e4chen, die man vielleicht im Freundesbekanntenkreis oder im Kollegenkreis f\u00fchrt. Jan, wie ist denn das dann bei dir? Also du hast ja mit diesem UX-Background, glaube ich, immer wieder auch schon in der Vergangenheit mit \u00e4hnlichen Fragestellungen zu tun gehabt, weil die ja egal, welche Technologie man da einf\u00fchrt, immer wieder aufkommt. Prozesse werden verschlankt und beschleunigt und automatisiert, Aufgaben fallen weg. Wie gehst du mit diesen Sorgen um, wenn du mit Menschen sprichst und sagst, hey, hier ist eine neue Technologie, lass uns die mal anschauen und auf einmal kommen wieder um die Ecke, oh, ich werde hier ersetzt und ich werde bald \u00fcberfl\u00fcssig werden? Mit technischer Klarheit und mit Analogien. Technische Klarheit, beschreibt vielleicht der Satz, den bringe ich gerne in Vortr\u00e4gen und in der Masterclass, dass es letztlich nur Bordrechner sind. Die verstehen gar nichts. Kein Kontext, kein gar nichts. Sie rechnen Silben.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_12\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"573.64\" data-end-seconds=\"590.5\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:33]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Genau genommen nicht mal Silben, sondern willk\u00fcrliche Bestandteile von Worten. Und das machen sie per Wahrscheinlichkeitsrechnung so exorbitant gut, dass f\u00fcr uns dabei menschlich schl\u00fcssige Antworten rauskommen. Ja, die wir so bilden. Wir bilden die Schluss. Wir sind die Schlusseinrichtung.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_13\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"590.98\" data-end-seconds=\"669.8\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:50]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, ja, ja. Und wir attestieren dem das. V\u00f6llig f\u00e4lschlicherweise. Wir lassen uns total darauf ein, weil der Mensch halt tickt, wie er tickt. Wenn wir ein menschliches Muster erkennen, was uns nicht merkw\u00fcrdig vorkommt, in dem Fall halt Chatfenster, vor allem die plausible Antwort auf unsere Eingabe, dann anthropomorphisieren wir. Das finden wir irgendwie cool. Aber es bleiben Wortrechner. Und in dieser Gewissheit, Dass sie gar nichts verstehen, dass sie nur geschickt rechnen und dir suggerieren, dass diese Rechenaufgabe, diese Wortrechenaufgabe irgendwie Sinn hat, ist, glaube ich, schon mal klarger\u00fcckt, dass du als Mensch immer noch die Oberhand hast in Fachkompetenz, in auch vor allem Methodenkompetenz. Dinge, die das Ding gut errechnen, raten kann, aber niemals so zielsicher, wie du denn sein w\u00fcrdest. Da w\u00fcrde ich einhaken wollen. Ich gehe voll mit, dass diese Maschine nichts versteht und rechnet. Das macht sie richtig gut. Ich kann die gut nutzen, wenn ich ihr unterschiebe, dass sie was Sinnvolles meint, weil ich Sinn darin erkenne. Also ich entwickle Sinn bei dem, was sie mir rausgibt und kann tats\u00e4chlich neue Gedanken fassen, neu reflektieren. Jemand Drittes, nehmen wir mal meinen Auftraggeber oder meinen Arbeitgeber, der sich so anschaut, was ich damit mache mit der Maschine und was die Maschine mit mir macht, wenn der jetzt\u2026.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_14\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"670.37\" data-end-seconds=\"682.15\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:10]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Der Maschine Kompetenz zuschreibt, weil es eben kein Pers\u00f6nlichkeitsmerkmal ist, sondern eine Zuschreibung und sagt, die Maschine macht das doch viel besser als du, dann habe ich schon ein Problem.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_15\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"683.03\" data-end-seconds=\"715.67\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:23]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Dann kann ich mal denken, ja gut, also ich bin schon irgendwie intelligenter als die Maschine, aber leider muss mein Arbeitgeber das auch von mir denken. Ich habe keinen Arbeitgeber, damit habe ich weniger Probleme, aber ich habe weniger. Genau mit diesem Argument kommen wir jetzt n\u00e4mlich in den Titel dieser Folge, in den sozialen Sprengstoff. Denn wenn man genau hinguckt, dann ist das Dunning-Kruger auf zwei Ebenen sogar. Dunning-Kruger ganz kurz eingeordnet, ich gebe vor, etwas zu k\u00f6nnen und kann das gar nicht wirklich. Ich denke nur, ich kann das. Der Dunning-Kruger-Effekt. Ich kriege es nicht mal mit, genau. Ich \u00fcbertreibe.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_16\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"716.53\" data-end-seconds=\"743.67\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:56]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und die erste Ebene Dunning-Kruger ist hier an der Stelle, dass das Modell behauptet, es kann was, was es faktisch gar nicht kann. Und der zweite Dunning-Kruger findet statt bei deinem Kollegen, der das Ding nutzt und sich jetzt bef\u00e4higt f\u00fchlt durch dieses Ergebnis und dem auch eine Wahrheit, eine Kompetenz, eine Qualit\u00e4t attestiert. In beiden Ebenen stimmt es nicht. Die Wahrheit ist, und da kommen wir jetzt zur Analogie, KI ist nicht mehr als ein wirklich guter Akkuschrauber f\u00fcr einen Handwerker.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_17\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"744.51\" data-end-seconds=\"772.53\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[12:24]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Aber damit hat sich der Schrank noch nicht selbst gebaut. Auch der Bauplan des Schranks ist damit noch lange nicht klar. Da w\u00fcrde ich jetzt wieder einhaken. Das mag vielleicht f\u00fcr die erste Generation KI noch zutreffen oder Chat-GPT, so wie wir es alle kennengelernt haben vor zweieinhalb, drei Jahren. Aber wenn wir jetzt die ganzen Automatisierungstools angucken, KI-Agenten, die jetzt um die Ecke kommen, die wirklich automatisch Dinge erledigen k\u00f6nnen, wo ich vielleicht noch den Auftrag \u00fcbergebe, hey, mach dies und mach das f\u00fcr mich und die Dinge passieren im Hintergrund automatisch von selbst und Magie<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6420150\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[12:56]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Der soziale Sprengstoff der KI<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_18\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"772.53\" data-end-seconds=\"807.39\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[12:52]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">ist da im Spiel, dann ist es ja schon so, dass es nicht nur ein Akkuschrauber ist. Also dann schreibe ich dem Dinge wirklich Kompetenz zu und es kann auch faktisch Dinge in der realen Welt ver\u00e4ndern. Das ist ja glaube ich aus meiner Sicht mal so der n\u00e4chste Schritt, den wir jetzt gerade gesehen haben. Solange das nur Chatbots waren und ich habe da eine Oberfl\u00e4che oder ich rede mit dem Ding, dann ist das quasi im Gedanklichen, findet da viel, viel statt. Aber wenn ich jetzt wirklich Agenten habe, die quasi an die reale Welt angeschlossen sind, die Transaktionen ausf\u00fchren k\u00f6nnen, die irgendwie Bezahlungen, Eink\u00e4ufe abwickeln k\u00f6nnen, Bestellungen ausl\u00f6sen, mit anderen KI-Agenten verhandeln und \u00e4hnliches mehr, dann ist das f\u00fcr mich schon nochmal eine andere Stufe und.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_19\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"807.97\" data-end-seconds=\"836.13\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[13:27]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Nicht mehr mit dem Appenschrauber vergleichbar. Es bleiben Bordrechner mit maximalen Freiraum. Daran wird sich auch technisch im \u00dcbrigen so schnell nichts \u00e4ndern. Diese Grundgrundlage, dass es letztlich wirklich einfach per Wahrscheinlichkeitsrechnung eben die Aneinanderreihung von Worten sind, auch in der Reasoning-Ebene, also auch in dieser Ebene, du jetzt gerade beschreibst, dass sie automatische Entscheidungen treffen. Ich glaube nicht in Klammern mehr daran, dass diese Technologie sich einfach weiterentwickelt. Es braucht quasi einen neuen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_20\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"836.96\" data-end-seconds=\"897.68\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[13:56]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Gen-KI, Gen-AI im Moment, der das Gleiche nochmal in wirklich dieser Ebene macht. Das ist keine logische Fortf\u00fchrung, das ist kein, wir schrauben noch eine Milliarde Parameter dran und dann ist das soweit. Weil es einfach eine v\u00f6llig neue technische H\u00fcrde ist, dass das, was du beschreibst, bewahrheitet ist und dass wir uns auch wirklich trauen, die Dinger laufen zu lassen, auch f\u00fcr relevante Prozesse und nicht nur f\u00fcr eine E-Mail schreiben. Und selbst da kann man schon viel kaputt machen in der Kommunikation. Das ist ein Sprung auf diesen Trampolin, den m\u00f6chten viele jetzt schon pr\u00e4diktieren und andere m\u00f6chten, dass das jetzt schon da ist, aber ist es nicht. Frank, benutzt du einen Agenten, wirklich in diesem Sinne, das Agentik? Da bin ich noch nicht an der Stelle. Aber es ist f\u00fcr mich einen wichtigen Punkt. Also sowohl, nehmen wir mal die Tatsache oder den Fakt oder auch einfach nur die Meinung oder die Annahme, das ist und bleibt eine Wahrscheinlichkeitsrechnung. Ich kann allein an dem Wort noch nicht sagen, ob ich dann verst\u00fcnde, was die macht. Ich sage mal, das ist so hohe Mathematik, ich habe keine Ahnung davon.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_21\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"899.1\" data-end-seconds=\"933.58\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[14:59]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Aber was diese Maschinen jetzt schon k\u00f6nnen, ist wirklich hilfreich. Sei es in kleinen Arbeitsschritten, sei es in sehr spezialisierten Schritten von Wissenschaftlern und Forschern. Also jeder kann diese KI f\u00fcr sich so nutzen, dass er sein Leben wirklich erleichtert. Ich will noch nicht sozusagen die gro\u00dfe gesellschaftliche Ebene, dass dadurch Branchen wegfallen und das Gesch\u00e4ftsmodell sich \u00e4ndert. Das ist ganz normal, dass sich das im Laufe der Zeit \u00e4ndert und angepasst werden muss. Es macht also Sinn, dieser Maschine Intelligenz oder hilfreiches Zutun zu unterstellen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_22\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"934.78\" data-end-seconds=\"1009.51\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[15:34]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Weil ich tats\u00e4chlich die Antwort bekomme, die mir hilft. Ich kriege einen neuen Text, ich kriege eine neue \u00dcbersetzung, ich kriege etwas geregelt, was ich sonst in Jahren nicht fertig bekommen w\u00fcrde. Und mal angenommen, das stellt sich so raus, auch in wenigen Jahren, dass es tats\u00e4chlich nicht mehr ist, was diese KI-Entwicklung mit sich bringen wird. Es ist doch dennoch sozialer Sprengstoff f\u00fcr eine Gesellschaft wie unsere, die sich gut eingerichtet hat in ihrer Ingenieurskunst und die einfach so ein bisschen hadert mit dieser Anwendung von Technologie. Das w\u00e4re ja nochmal einfach nur ganz runtergebrochen unsere Beh\u00e4bigkeit im Neugierigsein auf Neues. Das finde ich ganz spannende Aspekte gerade in dem, was du sagst, gefunden. Das eine, es ist ja jetzt schon verdammt hilfreich. In Klammern, immer nur, wenn der Mensch die F\u00fchrung beh\u00e4lt. Und zwar in Fachkompetenz wie auch in Ablauf, sodass du das Ergebnis verifizieren kannst. In einer Masterclass sagte eine Teilnehmerin, die kam aus der Kommunikationsecke im Unternehmen, sagte sie mal, das Ding macht, dass Wortkotze verst\u00e4ndlich ist. Und damit sind wir wieder bei diesem Affenschrauber. Das hat die KI. Oder die hat wirklich guten Sprachsinn.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_23\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1010.09\" data-end-seconds=\"1047.03\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[16:50]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Es ging ja darum, dass sie, wie bei diesem Akkuschrauber, die Schraube schneller reindreht, dass sie ihre wilden Gedanken in Form rechnen lassen kann. Und damit schneller, damit selbst weiterarbeitet. Das ist genau der Rhythmus Mensch-KI, den ich auch empfehle. F\u00fcr Stand jetzt und ehrlich gesagt auch f\u00fcr die n\u00e4chsten Stufen. Der soziale Sprengstoff entsteht, also die ganze Folge, die ganze Unternehmung, das ganze Vorhaben, das wir uns hier zusammenfinden, das hat in mir so ein Bild generiert, wie ich mir KI als Kollegen vorstelle. Und ich bin darauf gekommen, dass das eigentlich voll der Adi ist. Das ist so ein Geleckter. Der Assistent oder der Asoziale?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_24\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1047.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1091.61\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[17:27]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, das gucken wir mal f\u00fcr jeden vielleicht auch ein bisschen anders. Aber ich stelle mir vor, so einen \u00fcbergelten, geleckten, neuen Praktikanten, der meint, der hat die Weisheit mit L\u00f6ffeln gefressen. Und zu allem was zu sagen. Also so ein richtiger Stirnfried, so ein Typ, den man eigentlich im Team gar nicht haben will. Hey du, der den Podcast gerade h\u00f6rt. Wir bringen jede Woche eine neue Folge in diesem Podcast. Auch dir zum Anh\u00f6ren und brauchen deine Unterst\u00fctzung. Nimm dein Smartphone, hinterlass eine Sternebewertung und einen Kommentar, wie dir der Podcast gef\u00e4llt und mach andere dadurch aufmerksam auf diesen Podcast hier. Vielen Dank und jetzt geht&#8217;s weiter mit dem Podcast.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_25\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1094.11\" data-end-seconds=\"1133.77\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[18:14]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Aber da w\u00fcrde ich jetzt auch wieder einhaken, es h\u00e4ngt ja davon ab, was du mit diesem Tool dann tats\u00e4chlich machst. Also da bin ich ja bei dir. Das ist ein Werkzeug und das k\u00f6nnen wir f\u00fcr unsere Einsatzzwecke nutzen oder eben auch nicht. Und da geht f\u00fcr mich die erste Spaltung schon so ein bisschen los. Es gibt immer noch genug Menschen da drau\u00dfen, die von diesem KI-Zeugs \u00fcberhaupt nichts mitbekommen, auch nichts mitbekommen wollen, das nie ausprobiert haben und gar nichts. Und die werden nach und nach immer abgeh\u00e4ngter. Und das Zweite ist aber auch, so wie du sagst, wir m\u00fcssen ja entscheiden, was will ich mit diesem Tool eigentlich tun? Was soll das f\u00fcr ein Werkzeug sein? Wie soll der Assistent oder Kollege aussehen? Und ja, das sind viele, die diese Einstiegsdinge machen, Texte \u00fcberschreiben oder Ideen generieren, was auch immer. Die n\u00e4chste Stufe, und das hatten wir auch schon diskutiert.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_26\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1134.37\" data-end-seconds=\"1185.45\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[18:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ich kann mir so einen, wei\u00df nicht, was die KI mittlerweile f\u00fcr ein IQ hat, zu verschiedenen Tests, ich glaube so 140 um die Dreh hat man ja schon attestiert, viele Tests und Pr\u00fcfungen hat die schon bestanden. Also wenn ich mir f\u00fcr einen Schmalenthaler so einen Kollegen quasi mit einem IQ von 140 einstellen kann, dann gebe ich dem nicht arbeiten, im Sinne von \u00fcberarbeiten mir den Text oder mache mir mal ein paar Ideen, dann habe ich da irgendwie einen high sophisticated Berater oder ich habe jemanden, der mir wirklich Challenges gibt, im Sinne von, mach mich besser, zeig mir meine blinden Flecken, hilf mir da an den Stellen, wo ich noch nicht gut bin, besser zu werden, dann stelle ich da jemanden ganz anderen ein. Und zwar f\u00fcr Aufgaben, die ich nicht selber irgendwie nicht mehr machen will oder weil ich sie nicht gut kann, sondern um mich selber besser zu machen. Dann habe ich da einen Coach, einen Trainer, einen Berater an meiner Seite, der immer mich dahin dr\u00e4ngeln kann, noch besser zu werden. Ich glaube, das ist ja dann wirklich der Punkt, wo es echt einen Mehrwert geben kann durch solche Technologien, wenn<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6420151\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[19:48]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Die Herausforderungen der Zusammenarbeit mit KI<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_27\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1185.45\" data-end-seconds=\"1193.11\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[19:45]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">ich sie halt richtig f\u00fcr diese Zwecke konfiguriere und auch daf\u00fcr nutze. Ja, aber es ist ein Riesenunterschied zwischen Output und Outcome.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_28\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1193.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1223.28\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[19:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das Ding macht Output und zwar noch und n\u00f6cher, wenn du es fragst. Aber es ist halt erstmal nur Quantit\u00e4t. Ob es Qualit\u00e4t ist und dann auch noch mit Wirkung. Das ist v\u00f6lliger Zufall, das ist v\u00f6lliger Freiflug bei dem Ding. Oder da wird es jetzt eben tats\u00e4chlich auch vergiftet ist die Situation. Da sind wir ganz kurz noch bei diesem gegelten Praktikanten bleiben. Das Dumme ist n\u00e4mlich, dass die Gesch\u00e4ftsleitung total auf diesen gegelten Praktikanten steht, weil der permanent Output liefert. Und das macht erstmal eine Sichtbarkeit. Und dann kommen die Kollegen und schlie\u00dfen sich dem an.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_29\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1224\" data-end-seconds=\"1304.18\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[20:24]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Aber Frank, was macht denn das? Das macht eine Uniformierung, eine KI-Uniformierung. Ich habe das selbst im Team erlebt und habe aktiv gegensteuern m\u00fcssen, weil die Leute pl\u00f6tzlich nur noch diesen KPIs, dieser vermeintlichen Quantit\u00e4ts-KPI, die irgendwie gut genug aussieht, shiny genug ist, selbst dass es Qualit\u00e4t spiegeln w\u00fcrde, hinterherlaufen. Das sorgt f\u00fcr eine Uniformierung im schlimmsten aller Sinne. Wirklich Verdummung der Kreativit\u00e4tsleistung. Und da w\u00fcrdest du sagen, das ist die Form von sozialen Sprengstoff, die wir im Blick nehmen m\u00fcssen. Nicht so sehr neue Arbeitslosenheere und hochqualifizierte, die nicht mehr gebraucht werden, sondern du sagst, die Qualit\u00e4t der Leute nimmt ab, wenn sie KI nutzen. Genau. Also ich halte das gr\u00f6\u00dfere Problem, dass wir lauter Scheinhelden bekommen werden in Teams. Und die bekommst du nicht mehr richtig durchblickt, weil den Akkuschrauber siehst du in der Hand. Aber ob die KI benutzt haben, das stellst du erst fest, wenn das Ergebnis drei Stufen weiter Bl\u00f6dsinn ist. Das blickt keiner so schnell. Und dieses selbst als Superheld aufspielen, nur weil man jetzt meint, man w\u00e4re mit KI allen drei Schritten voraus, das erzeugt auch so einen Generalverdacht. Also fast so einen, auch das habe ich auch an mir ehrlich gesagt selbst erlebt, wenn mir ein Ergebnis von einem Teamkollegen zu schnell kam, habe ich aktiv gefragt, welches Modell hast du benutzt? Ich habe gar kein Modell benutzt.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_30\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1304.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1328.8\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[21:44]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also ich wollte verstehen, wo kommt es her, um das einordnen zu k\u00f6nnen. Und das ist f\u00fcr mich der soziale Sprengstoff. Seien wir mal ehrlich, industrielle Revolution gab es Und dass sich unsere Berufsbilder ver\u00e4ndern, auch das ist nichts Neues. Und dass wir durch weitere Automatisierung und in Komfortzonen laufen auch mal ganze Berufsbilder abschaffen, auch das ist nichts Neues. Das haben wir alle schon mehrfach, alles schon mehrfach erfolgreich als Gesellschaft gemacht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_31\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1329.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1418.54\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[22:09]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Gemacht, hinter uns gebracht. Und dennoch lassen sich Muster ja feststellen, dass wir sozusagen vom Handwerk hin zur Dienstleistung und jetzt zu Kreativberufen gegangen sind als Gesellschaft. Also wir haben sozusagen Felder abgeschritten, dass wir die Bauern, Bauernkinder in die Stadt geholt haben und dann zu Lohnarbeitern und Bandarbeitern letztlich gar nicht gro\u00df fortbilden mussten, sondern einfach nur die mussten durchhalten ihre 14 Stunden. Und dann sind sie in die Dienstleistungsgesellschaft gewandert, die gro\u00dfe Masse der Bandarbeiter. Und das ist ja etwas, was man durchaus noch so im Blick hat, wenn dann unbedarfter bei McDonalds angefangen hat und dann hat man ihm Freundlichkeit und Disziplin beigebracht und immer wieder eingepr\u00fcgelt. Aber von dort aus oder von der Kasse am Supermarkt hin jetzt in die Kreativit\u00e4tsberufe war es schon ein bisschen schwieriger und war es schon ein bisschen weniger geworden. Und andere Bereiche tun sich eben nicht auf. Der einzelne Beruf geht weg, klar. Und da kann man sagen, das hat man gestern auch schon. Aber ich sehe jetzt kein neues Feld f\u00fcr einen Gro\u00dfteil der Bev\u00f6lkerung, wenn Lohnarbeit das Modell der Zukunft bleiben soll. Da w\u00fcrde ich den sozialen Sprengstoff schon sehen, wobei eben die L\u00f6sung nicht ist. Ohne KI h\u00e4tten wir den nicht. Zugegeben etwas, was ich so jetzt auch nicht in die Zukunft versetzen w\u00fcrde, aber sagt euch Click-\u00d6konomie was? Ja, also in groben Z\u00fcgen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_32\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1419.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1429.24\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[23:39]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Letztlich eine Ausbeutung des Menschen zum Pre-Training oder Datenaufbereitung und auch Alignierung von Datenger\u00fcsten f\u00fcr Modelle halt.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_33\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1430.06\" data-end-seconds=\"1518.16\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[23:50]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und das ist momentan ist das verbunden mit Ausbeutung. Aber das w\u00e4re eigentlich, wenn man das vern\u00fcnftig regeln w\u00fcrde, w\u00e4re das ein Lohneinkommen. Und auch ein ganz neues, was es so vorher auch vor allem in diesem Umfang nicht gab. Ich habe vor kurzem gelernt, dass das mittlerweile ins andere \u00e4ndert, n\u00e4mlich nach hoch dekorierten Experten hin. Die werden f\u00fcr tausende Euro am Tag, werden die f\u00fcrs Training von Modellen genutzt. Also es stehen ganze Industrien drum, dass deren Wissen in diese Modelle flie\u00dft. Es ist ein Milliardengesch\u00e4ft. Dass es gar nicht nur um das Klick als solches geht, was sozusagen Flie\u00dfbandarbeit ist, sondern man guckt sich Hochgebildete an, was die tun und was die denken, damit man das als Daten verwendet. Es gibt beide Enden. Das sind ja auch wieder dann Berufe nur f\u00fcr eher wenige. Und da bin ich bei dir, Sascha, also KI wird nicht wieder weggehen. Das haben wir auch schon diskutiert. Die Technologie ist da. Das war fr\u00fcher auch schon so. Die wird nicht wieder verschwunden. Aber die Hoffnung ist nat\u00fcrlich wieder damit verbunden, mehr Wertsch\u00f6pfung und Automatisierung. Und so wie du gesagt hast, zu einem Einstieg, wir k\u00f6nnen uns zur\u00fccklehnen und die Wertsch\u00f6pfung entsteht von alleine. Auch wenn wir da vielleicht noch nicht sind, aber das ist ja so dieser Traum der Menschheit, schon immer irgendwie dahin zu kommen. Und m\u00f6glicherweise m\u00fcssen wir uns dann mit ganz anderen Fragen besch\u00e4ftigen. Wo kommt dann irgendwie das Geld her, wenn es nicht mehr die Lohnarbeit ist? Und trotzdem braucht man irgendwie das, um einzukaufen und zu \u00fcberleben und seinen Alltag zu bew\u00e4ltigen. Und das wird, glaube ich, durch KI nochmal jetzt massiv beschleunigt, dass wir uns auch mit diesen Fragen besch\u00e4ftigen m\u00fcssen auf der gesellschaftlichen Ebene. Und auch noch der Wettbewerb des Systeme, k\u00f6nnten wir auch noch sagen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_34\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1519.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1537.74\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[25:19]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also da gibt es so viele Dimensionen da drin. Ich glaube, das haben wir noch gar nicht alles durchtr\u00e4umt. Aber haben wir nicht auch weiterhin gen\u00fcgend Felder, bei denen es sich lohnen w\u00fcrde, das auch mit KI und Robotik in Kombination durchzuautomatisieren? Also Stichwort Pflegesystem. Also Japan ist da ja gro\u00dfer Vorreiter.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_35\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1538.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1622.3\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[25:38]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Die leben damit, dass sie von Robotern gepflegt werden. Das ist kulturell anerkannt. Die Dinger haben sogar eine Seele und so weiter. Die besch\u00e4ftigen sich mit diesem ethischen Moment, den wir jetzt hier, also f\u00fcr uns wertvollen, gar nicht so sehr. Die schaffen L\u00f6sungen. Und das passiert und das funktioniert. Das ist auch der Punkt, wo ich mir eigentlich wenig Sorgen mache sozusagen um unsere Gesellschaft, weil wir noch lange nicht die fortschrittlichste sind in KI und da jetzt Gedanken machen m\u00fcssen, sondern wir haben ja eher das Problem, dass wir von einem gesellschaftsweit relativ hohen Standard an Wohlstand aus starten und sagen, Auch so eine Katastrophe f\u00fcr Routinen, so ein Wechsel, den KI da forciert, den brauchen wir eigentlich gar nicht und uns da eher beh\u00e4big benehmen und eher mit Abwehr darauf reagieren und es nicht so richtig gesellschaftlich in Fahrt kommt. Also die Bereitschaft, in Infrastruktur zu investieren, w\u00fcrde ich mal noch als gr\u00f6\u00dftes Problem sehen, gesellschaftlich. Dass wir einfach in die Infrastruktur nicht so investiert haben und das tun. Das geht bei den Schulen los und der Lehre als aber auch bei der ganzen digitalen Infrastruktur. Dass wir da einfach beh\u00e4big sind oder hinterher fast schon. Wird ihr das teilen oder ist das eher so eine pessimistische Klage? Der Fakt ist, wir sind hinterher. Der Grund, den sehe ich anders. Uns ging es zu gut. Ganz Deutschland war letztendlich jahrzehntelang im <strong>Innovators-Dilemma<\/strong>.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_36\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1623.42\" data-end-seconds=\"1642.92\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[27:03]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Die Automobilbranche florierte, wir waren die Helden, Industrie, Maschinen, alles aus Deutschland, weg exportiert. Solar war ja auch mal unser Thema. So und aus diesem Innovators-Dilemma haben wir gemacht, uns geht es ja gut, uns geht es sehr gut. Morgen wird es uns auch noch gut gehen und \u00fcbermorgen bestimmt auch noch. Jetzt sind wir in einer Situation, in der sind wir konfrontiert mit riesigem Renovierungsstau.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_37\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1644.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1690.88\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[27:24]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Infrastrukturell wie auch in der Wirtschaft. Und in diesem Renovierungsstau sehen wir uns eher zu einer stabilen Situation zur\u00fcck, was, so habe ich zumindest bei mir im Umfeld das Gef\u00fchl, dazu f\u00fchrt, dass Menschen KI negieren, weil es ihnen einer zu viel ist. Denn, und das ist auch Teil der Wahrheit, es ist halt kein Selbstl\u00e4ufer. Es wird proklamiert als demokratisiertes Alles-Tun. Jeder kann alles. Das stimmt halt nicht. Du kannst mit KI immer noch jede Menge Schei\u00dfe produzieren. Da ist nichts demokratisiert. Das ist der alte Traum der Techies, dass da mit Demokratisierung einhergeht. Mit dem Internet war das so und mit den Mobilger\u00e4ten jetzt auch. Okay, aber das bedeutet also, wenn man das Modell des Innovators-Dilemma zugrunde legt, wie kommen wir da raus?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6420152\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[28:11]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Kreativit\u00e4t im Zusammenspiel mit KI<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_38\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1691.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1733\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:11]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Kreativ sein und zwar menschlich kreativ mit diesem neuen Werkzeug. Es wird ja mal von multimodalen Modellen gesprochen. Und was damit gemeint ist, ist, dass das Ding in Bildern denken kann, rechnen kann, dass es in Worten rechnen kann und dass es Sprache entgegennehmen kann oder auch Selbstsprache produzieren kann. Die Multimodalit\u00e4t eines Menschen ist rein von den Sinneswahrnehmungen \u00e4hnlich. Wir haben auch noch ein paar mehr, plus unser Verst\u00e4ndnis. Und wir haben etwas, ich finde kein Wort daf\u00fcr, aber wir haben so eine gewisse Willk\u00fcrlichkeit in der Wahrnehmung. Alleine, dass wir jetzt miteinander sprechen, das Rauschen auf dem Ohrh\u00f6rer, die kleine R\u00fcckenkoppelung, all das macht was mit mir. Es beeinflusst meinen Rechenapparat.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_39\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1733.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1805.03\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Und diese fast Willk\u00fcrlichkeit der Berechnung, die zu neuen Ideen f\u00fchrt, das ist f\u00fcr mich mittlerweile so ein bisschen der Human-Magic-Moment, etwas, was du in einem Modell aufs Verrecken nicht anerziehen kannst, weil es in seiner Wahrscheinlichkeitsrechnung bleibt. Es will die wahrscheinlichste Rechnung f\u00fcr dich l\u00f6sen, damit du als Nutzer weiter happy bist. Und das wird immer deutlicher, je besser die das k\u00f6nnen. Meinst du, dass das etwas ist, das sich st\u00e4rker rausprofilieren wird und dass auch paradox das sein mag, je mehr ich mich damit besch\u00e4ftige mit KI oder nutze oder angehe, desto eher kriege ich meine Profilierung raus? Genau das ist es. Also ich lege immer gro\u00dfen Wert darauf, dass meine Teilnehmer verstehen, die technische Grundlage, um dann auch antizipieren zu k\u00f6nnen, was sie f\u00fcr eine Rechenaufgabe reinschicken, aka Prompt, und was sie zur\u00fcckbekommen und wie sie damit weiterarbeiten k\u00f6nnen. Das ist ja ein sch\u00f6ner Moment sozusagen, weil wir die technische Grundlagen oder zumindest das ein bisschen differenzieren, was Frank du vorhin mit Agenten, Assistenten und was es da noch alles gibt jetzt so an Tools oder an Anwendungen, dass wir das nochmal verschieben, dort st\u00e4rker reingehen und hier den Moment festhalten, das hat sowohl als auch Sto\u00dfrichtungen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_40\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1805.63\" data-end-seconds=\"1885.88\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[30:05]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Sich mit KI besch\u00e4ftigen ist wichtig, aber nicht so im Sinne von, ich laufe hinterher, sondern ich kann daran mich selbst auch erkennen. Also ich verliere mich nicht nur in KI-Entwicklungstools, sondern ich kann mich daran auch erkennen, was mein eigenes ist, meine eigene Kreativit\u00e4t. Das war einfach der Punkt, wo ich sage, das ist ganz passend. Ich muss ein bisschen mit auf die Zeit gucken. Ganz menschlich ist die n\u00e4mlich bei mir begrenzt. Nicht im absoluten Sinne, aber im recht allt\u00e4glichen Sinne. Frank, aber du hattest noch mal was sagen wollen. Ja, ich w\u00fcrde vielleicht Jan so zum Abschluss noch mal eine sehr konkrete Frage stellen im Sinne von, jetzt ist die KI da, die geht auch nicht mehr weg, davon k\u00f6nnen wir glaube ich ausgehen. Und der Mensch ist auch da, er will auch irgendwie seine Berechtigung haben. Wie sieht denn jetzt aus deiner Sicht so ein ideales Zusammenspiel aus zwischen Mensch und Technologie oder konkret Mensch und der k\u00fcnstlichen Intelligenz? Wie kriegen wir das gut quasi organisiert? Also vor allem sollten wir \u00c4ngste ablegen. \u00c4ngste davor, dass sich unser Jobbild zu hart ver\u00e4ndern k\u00f6nnte oder nicht mehr stattfindet. Ja, ver\u00e4ndern k\u00f6nnen wir es eh nicht. Also du kannst an der Stelle letztendlich nur durch maximales Verst\u00e4ndnis und miterleben, mitgestalten, durch Wissen, kannst du die Situation f\u00fcr dich im Griff behalten. Was ich da noch hinzuf\u00fcgen m\u00f6chte, was ich schon auch manchmal ein bisschen \u00e4tzend finde, dass es ja eine fremdbestimmte Wette ist. Wir sind ja nie aufgewacht und haben gesagt, oh, GPT, da wollen wir den ganzen Tag mit arbeiten.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_41\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1886.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1955.84\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"31:26.52\">[31:26]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:26.52 - 31:26.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1886.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1886.86\" data-confidence=\"1\">Nee,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:27.00 - 31:27.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1887\" data-end-seconds=\"1887.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:27.12 - 31:27.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1887.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1887.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:27.24 - 31:27.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1887.24\" data-end-seconds=\"1887.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:27.36 - 31:28.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1887.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1888.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tech-Milliard\u00e4re<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:28.04 - 31:28.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1888.04\" data-end-seconds=\"1888.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:28.34 - 31:28.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1888.34\" data-end-seconds=\"1888.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Amerika,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:28.94 - 31:29.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1888.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1889.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:29.10 - 31:29.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1889.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1889.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:29.22 - 31:29.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1889.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1889.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:29.42 - 31:29.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1889.42\" data-end-seconds=\"1889.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wette<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:29.68 - 31:30.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1889.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1890.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> laufen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:30.32 - 31:30.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1890.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1890.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:30.54 - 31:30.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1890.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1890.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:30.68 - 31:30.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1890.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1890.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:30.78 - 31:31.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1890.78\" data-end-seconds=\"1891.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technik.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:31.34 - 31:31.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1891.34\" data-end-seconds=\"1891.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:31.60 - 31:31.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1891.6\" data-end-seconds=\"1891.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:31.72 - 31:31.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1891.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1891.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> viel<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:31.96 - 31:32.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1891.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1892.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> investiert,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:32.56 - 31:32.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1892.56\" data-end-seconds=\"1892.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:32.64 - 31:32.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1892.64\" data-end-seconds=\"1892.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:32.80 - 31:32.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1892.8\" data-end-seconds=\"1892.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:32.94 - 31:33.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1892.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1893.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dieser<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:33.12 - 31:33.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1893.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1893.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wette<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:33.32 - 31:33.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1893.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1893.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:33.50 - 31:33.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1893.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1893.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_15\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:33.64 - 31:34.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1893.64\" data-end-seconds=\"1894.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ablasten.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:34.72 - 31:35.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1894.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.06 - 31:35.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.06\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.20 - 31:35.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.32 - 31:35.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.48 - 31:35.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> rein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.70 - 31:35.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.84 - 31:35.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.92 - 31:36.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1896.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gro\u00dfen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:36.14 - 31:36.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1896.14\" data-end-seconds=\"1896.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Staatsapparate.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:37.22 - 31:37.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1897.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1897.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:37.36 - 31:37.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1897.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1897.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:37.48 - 31:37.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1897.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1897.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diesem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:37.68 - 31:38.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1897.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1898\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Setting<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:38.00 - 31:39.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1898\" data-end-seconds=\"1899\" data-confidence=\"1\"> fahren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:39.00 - 31:39.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1899\" data-end-seconds=\"1899.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:39.24 - 31:39.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1899.24\" data-end-seconds=\"1899.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> denke<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:39.34 - 31:39.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1899.34\" data-end-seconds=\"1899.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:39.50 - 31:39.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1899.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1899.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> am<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:39.60 - 31:39.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1899.6\" data-end-seconds=\"1899.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besten,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:40.14 - 31:40.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1900.14\" data-end-seconds=\"1900.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:40.26 - 31:40.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1900.26\" data-end-seconds=\"1900.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:40.46 - 31:40.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1900.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1900.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:40.74 - 31:41.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1900.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1901.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Beste<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:41.06 - 31:41.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1901.06\" data-end-seconds=\"1901.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> daraus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:41.38 - 31:41.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1901.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1901.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> machen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:42.28 - 31:42.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1902.28\" data-end-seconds=\"1902.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:42.72 - 31:43.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1902.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1903.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geh\u00f6rt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:43.16 - 31:43.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1903.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1903.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tats\u00e4chlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:43.60 - 31:44.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1903.6\" data-end-seconds=\"1904.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ausprobieren,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:44.40 - 31:44.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1904.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1904.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hands-on,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:45.02 - 31:45.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1905.02\" data-end-seconds=\"1905.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:45.34 - 31:45.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1905.34\" data-end-seconds=\"1905.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:45.50 - 31:45.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1905.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1905.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Theorie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:45.96 - 31:46.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1905.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1906.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anlesen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:46.70 - 31:47.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1906.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1907.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:47.10 - 31:47.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1907.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1907.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:47.90 - 31:48.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1907.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1908.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Interesse,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:48.42 - 31:48.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1908.42\" data-end-seconds=\"1908.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:48.56 - 31:49.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1908.56\" data-end-seconds=\"1909.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Neugierde.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:49.58 - 31:49.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1909.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1909.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:49.62 - 31:49.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1909.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1909.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:49.74 - 31:49.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1909.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1909.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:49.88 - 31:49.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1909.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1909.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:49.98 - 31:50.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1909.98\" data-end-seconds=\"1910.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:50.10 - 31:50.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1910.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1910.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> doch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:50.22 - 31:50.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1910.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1910.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:50.38 - 31:51.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1910.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1911.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> demokratisiertes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:51.16 - 31:51.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1911.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1911.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Werkzeug,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:51.70 - 31:51.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1911.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1911.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:51.82 - 31:52.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1911.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1912.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> abseits<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:52.16 - 31:52.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1912.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1912.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dieser<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:52.38 - 31:53.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1912.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1913.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> 20-Euro-Monat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:53.36 - 31:53.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1913.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1913.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:53.56 - 31:53.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1913.56\" data-end-seconds=\"1913.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:53.76 - 31:54.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1913.76\" data-end-seconds=\"1914.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jeder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:54.04 - 31:54.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1914.04\" data-end-seconds=\"1914.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:54.22 - 31:54.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1914.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1914.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:54.40 - 31:54.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1914.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1914.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erschlie\u00dfen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:54.88 - 31:55.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1914.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1915\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:55.00 - 31:55.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1915\" data-end-seconds=\"1915.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> m\u00f6chte.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:55.60 - 31:56.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1915.6\" data-end-seconds=\"1916.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sollte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:56.02 - 31:56.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1916.02\" data-end-seconds=\"1916.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:56.20 - 31:56.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1916.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1916.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jeder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:56.48 - 31:56.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1916.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1916.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tun,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:57.18 - 31:57.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1917.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1917.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:57.36 - 31:57.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1917.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1917.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:57.50 - 31:57.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1917.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1917.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> etwas,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:57.86 - 31:57.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1917.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1917.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:57.98 - 31:58.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1917.98\" data-end-seconds=\"1918.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:58.28 - 31:58.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1918.28\" data-end-seconds=\"1918.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einfach<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:58.68 - 31:58.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1918.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1918.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:58.98 - 31:59.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1918.98\" data-end-seconds=\"1919.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:59.16 - 31:59.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1919.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1919.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weg.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:59.56 - 31:59.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1919.56\" data-end-seconds=\"1919.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:59.78 - 32:00.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1919.78\" data-end-seconds=\"1920.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zweiter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:00.08 - 32:00.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1920.08\" data-end-seconds=\"1920.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Teil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:00.32 - 32:00.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1920.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1920.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:00.46 - 32:00.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1920.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1920.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wahrheit,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:01.16 - 32:01.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1921.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1921.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielleicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:01.48 - 32:01.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1921.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1921.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:01.70 - 32:02.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1921.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1922.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00dcberleitung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:02.18 - 32:02.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1922.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1922.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:02.36 - 32:02.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1922.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1922.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:02.50 - 32:02.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1922.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1922.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zweiten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:02.78 - 32:03.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1922.78\" data-end-seconds=\"1923.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Teil,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:03.48 - 32:03.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1923.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1923.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:03.62 - 32:03.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1923.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1923.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> muss<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:03.74 - 32:03.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1923.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1923.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:03.86 - 32:04.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1923.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1924.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:04.04 - 32:04.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1924.04\" data-end-seconds=\"1924.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> klar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:04.22 - 32:04.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1924.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1924.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sein,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:04.52 - 32:04.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1924.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1924.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> OpenAI<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:04.92 - 32:05.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1924.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1925.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:05.20 - 32:05.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1925.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1925.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Co.,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:05.88 - 32:06.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1925.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1926.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:06.06 - 32:06.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1926.06\" data-end-seconds=\"1926.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:06.18 - 32:06.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1926.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1926.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:06.30 - 32:06.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1926.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1926.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:06.50 - 32:06.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1926.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1926.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirkliches<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:06.90 - 32:07.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1926.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1927.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Interesse<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:07.28 - 32:07.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1927.28\" data-end-seconds=\"1927.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> daran,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:07.66 - 32:07.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1927.66\" data-end-seconds=\"1927.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:07.76 - 32:08.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1927.76\" data-end-seconds=\"1928.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:08.20 - 32:08.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1928.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1928.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:08.30 - 32:08.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1928.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1928.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:08.60 - 32:08.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1928.6\" data-end-seconds=\"1928.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:08.72 - 32:08.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1928.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1928.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:08.88 - 32:09.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1928.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1929.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besser<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:09.16 - 32:09.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1929.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1929.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> werden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:09.38 - 32:09.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1929.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1929.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:09.52 - 32:09.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1929.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1929.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unserem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:09.74 - 32:10.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1929.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1930\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Job.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:10.52 - 32:11.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1930.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1931.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:11.04 - 32:11.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1931.04\" data-end-seconds=\"1931.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wollen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:11.30 - 32:12.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1931.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1932.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kommerzialisieren,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:12.44 - 32:12.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1932.44\" data-end-seconds=\"1932.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> indem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:12.62 - 32:12.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1932.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1932.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:12.88 - 32:13.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1932.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1933.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:13.10 - 32:13.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1933.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1933.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:13.44 - 32:13.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1933.44\" data-end-seconds=\"1933.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Chat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:13.72 - 32:14.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1933.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1934.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> packen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:14.18 - 32:14.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1934.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1934.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:14.36 - 32:14.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1934.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1934.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:14.48 - 32:14.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1934.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1934.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:14.56 - 32:14.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1934.56\" data-end-seconds=\"1934.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Reise<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:14.84 - 32:15.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1934.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1935.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verkaufen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:15.96 - 32:16.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1935.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1936.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Klamotten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:16.36 - 32:16.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1936.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1936.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verkaufen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:17.16 - 32:17.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1937.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1937.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:17.24 - 32:17.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1937.24\" data-end-seconds=\"1937.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wollen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:17.42 - 32:17.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1937.42\" data-end-seconds=\"1937.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:17.58 - 32:17.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1937.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1937.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> voll<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:17.96 - 32:18.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1937.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1938.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ausnehmen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:18.52 - 32:19.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1938.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1939.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kommerzialisiert.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:19.38 - 32:19.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1939.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1939.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:19.72 - 32:19.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1939.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1939.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wollen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:19.90 - 32:20.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1939.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1940.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deinen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:20.08 - 32:20.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1940.08\" data-end-seconds=\"1940.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konsum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:20.58 - 32:21.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1940.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1941.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> steuern.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_15_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:21.22 - 32:21.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1941.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1941.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_15_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:21.32 - 32:21.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1941.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1941.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_15_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:21.48 - 32:21.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1941.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1941.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wieder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_15_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:21.72 - 32:21.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1941.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1941.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_15_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:21.94 - 32:22.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1941.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1942.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_15_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:22.20 - 32:22.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1942.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1942.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Richtung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_15_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:22.64 - 32:23.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1942.64\" data-end-seconds=\"1943.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Werbung.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_16_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:23.62 - 32:23.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1943.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1943.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Alles<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_16_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:23.86 - 32:24.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1943.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1944.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> andere<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_16_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:24.16 - 32:24.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1944.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1944.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_16_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:24.34 - 32:24.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1944.34\" data-end-seconds=\"1944.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_16_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:24.48 - 32:24.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1944.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1944.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_16_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:24.66 - 32:25.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1944.66\" data-end-seconds=\"1945.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> v\u00f6llig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_16_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:25.36 - 32:25.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1945.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1945.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zweit,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_16_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:25.88 - 32:26.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1945.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1946.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dritt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_16_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:26.48 - 32:27.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1946.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1947.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zehntrangig.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:27.28 - 32:27.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1947.28\" data-end-seconds=\"1947.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:27.46 - 32:27.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1947.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1947.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kommt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:27.62 - 32:27.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1947.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1947.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:27.82 - 32:28.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1947.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1948.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> daher,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:28.46 - 32:28.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1948.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1948.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:28.86 - 32:29.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1948.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1949.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:29.08 - 32:29.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1949.08\" data-end-seconds=\"1949.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:29.38 - 32:29.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1949.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1949.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Nutzer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:29.70 - 32:29.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1949.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1949.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dieser<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:29.90 - 32:30.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1949.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1950.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technologie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:30.58 - 32:31.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1950.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1951.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:31.10 - 32:31.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1951.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1951.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konzern<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_17_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:31.58 - 32:31.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1951.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1951.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gezeigt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_18_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:31.86 - 32:32.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1951.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1952.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_18_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:32.30 - 32:32.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1952.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1952.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_18_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:32.38 - 32:32.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1952.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1952.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nehmen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_18_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:32.56 - 32:32.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1952.56\" data-end-seconds=\"1952.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_18_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:32.74 - 32:32.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1952.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1952.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_18_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:32.94 - 32:33.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1952.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1953.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Selbstoptimierung,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_18_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:34.22 - 32:34.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1954.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1954.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_18_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:34.66 - 32:34.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1954.66\" data-end-seconds=\"1954.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_18_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:34.78 - 32:35.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1954.78\" data-end-seconds=\"1955.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Lebensberatung.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_42\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1956.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1966.56\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"32:36.36\">[32:36]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:36.36 - 32:36.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1956.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1956.5\" data-confidence=\"1\">Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:36.50 - 32:36.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1956.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1956.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:36.66 - 32:36.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1956.66\" data-end-seconds=\"1956.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:36.82 - 32:37.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1956.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1957.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Top-Kategorien,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:37.88 - 32:37.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1957.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1957.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:37.96 - 32:38.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1957.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1958.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> denen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:38.06 - 32:38.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1958.06\" data-end-seconds=\"1958.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:38.20 - 32:38.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1958.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1958.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:38.60 - 32:39.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1958.6\" data-end-seconds=\"1959.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hochspannende<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:39.30 - 32:39.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1959.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1959.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technologie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:39.72 - 32:40.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1959.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verwenden.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.20 - 32:40.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Nat\u00fcrlich,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.48 - 32:40.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.54 - 32:40.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sollen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.70 - 32:40.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.76 - 32:40.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.76\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> denn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.82 - 32:41.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anders<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:41.02 - 32:41.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1961.02\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> machen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:41.28 - 32:41.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1961.28\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:41.38 - 32:41.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1961.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:41.48 - 32:41.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1961.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:41.74 - 32:41.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1961.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> alles<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:41.82 - 32:41.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1961.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> klar,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:42.04 - 32:42.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1962.04\" data-end-seconds=\"1962.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:42.10 - 32:42.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1962.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1962.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verkaufe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:42.42 - 32:42.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1962.42\" data-end-seconds=\"1962.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:42.50 - 32:42.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1962.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1962.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:42.58 - 32:42.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1962.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1962.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> doch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:42.70 - 32:42.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1962.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1962.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:42.84 - 32:43.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1962.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1963.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeug.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:43.28 - 32:43.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1963.28\" data-end-seconds=\"1963.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:43.48 - 32:43.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1963.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1963.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> drei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:43.64 - 32:43.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1963.64\" data-end-seconds=\"1963.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:43.96 - 32:44.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1963.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1964.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ziele,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:44.46 - 32:44.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1964.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1964.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Purpose,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:45.20 - 32:46.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1965.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1966\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Lebensberatung,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:46.16 - 32:46.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1966.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1966.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Coaching.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6420153\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[32:49]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Fazit und Ausblick auf die Zukunft<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_43\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1966.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2015.46\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"32:46.76\">[32:46]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:46.76 - 32:47.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1966.76\" data-end-seconds=\"1967\" data-confidence=\"1\">Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:47.00 - 32:47.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1967\" data-end-seconds=\"1967.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:47.14 - 32:47.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1967.14\" data-end-seconds=\"1967.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> geh\u00f6rt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:47.46 - 32:47.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1967.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1967.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:47.82 - 32:48.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1967.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1968.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ins<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:48.52 - 32:48.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1968.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1968.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Business<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:48.94 - 32:49.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1968.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1969.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:49.10 - 32:49.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1969.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1969.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> daf\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:49.28 - 32:49.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1969.28\" data-end-seconds=\"1969.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> m\u00fcssen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:49.50 - 32:49.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1969.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1969.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:49.62 - 32:49.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1969.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1969.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> selbst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:49.88 - 32:50.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1969.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1970.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sorgen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:50.40 - 32:50.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1970.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1970.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:50.54 - 32:50.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1970.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1970.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:50.68 - 32:50.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1970.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1970.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:50.70 - 32:50.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1970.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1970.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> guter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:50.92 - 32:51.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1970.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1971.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Punkt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:51.38 - 32:51.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1971.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1971.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:51.90 - 32:52.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1971.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1972.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:52.06 - 32:52.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1972.06\" data-end-seconds=\"1972.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ersten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:52.30 - 32:52.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1972.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1972.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Teil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:52.54 - 32:52.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1972.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1972.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:53.12 - 32:53.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1973.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1973.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:53.32 - 32:53.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1973.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1973.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Haken<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:53.60 - 32:53.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1973.6\" data-end-seconds=\"1973.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dran<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:53.80 - 32:54.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1973.8\" data-end-seconds=\"1974\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:54.00 - 32:54.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1974\" data-end-seconds=\"1974.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> machen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:54.54 - 32:54.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1974.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1974.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:54.72 - 32:54.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1974.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1974.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> finde,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:54.94 - 32:55.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1974.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1975.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:55.08 - 32:55.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1975.08\" data-end-seconds=\"1975.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:55.22 - 32:55.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1975.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1975.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beides<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:55.74 - 32:56.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1975.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1976.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gebracht.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:56.40 - 32:56.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1976.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1976.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Einmal,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:56.80 - 32:57.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1976.8\" data-end-seconds=\"1977.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:57.12 - 32:57.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1977.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1977.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sollten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:57.48 - 32:57.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1977.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1977.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:57.70 - 32:57.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1977.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1977.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> damit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:57.92 - 32:58.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1977.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1978.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besch\u00e4ftigen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:58.88 - 32:59.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1978.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1979.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:59.08 - 32:59.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1979.08\" data-end-seconds=\"1979.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:59.34 - 32:59.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1979.34\" data-end-seconds=\"1979.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nichts<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:59.68 - 32:59.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1979.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1979.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anderes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:59.94 - 33:00.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1979.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1980.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcbrig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:00.22 - 33:00.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1980.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1980.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bleibt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:00.72 - 33:01.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1980.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1981.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:01.22 - 33:01.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1981.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1981.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:01.34 - 33:01.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1981.34\" data-end-seconds=\"1981.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:01.52 - 33:01.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1981.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1981.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:01.66 - 33:01.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1981.66\" data-end-seconds=\"1981.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:01.80 - 33:02.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1981.8\" data-end-seconds=\"1982.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kluge<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:02.12 - 33:02.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1982.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1982.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Idee,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:02.66 - 33:02.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1982.66\" data-end-seconds=\"1982.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:02.76 - 33:02.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1982.76\" data-end-seconds=\"1982.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:02.92 - 33:03.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1982.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1983.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> voller<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:03.20 - 33:03.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1983.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1983.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Motivation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:03.94 - 33:04.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1983.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1984.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:04.22 - 33:04.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1984.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1984.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tun<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:04.54 - 33:05.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1984.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1985.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:05.14 - 33:05.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1985.14\" data-end-seconds=\"1985.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:05.30 - 33:05.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1985.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1985.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Beste<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:05.60 - 33:05.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1985.6\" data-end-seconds=\"1985.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> draus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:05.90 - 33:06.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1985.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1986.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:06.10 - 33:06.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1986.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1986.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> machen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:06.72 - 33:06.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1986.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1986.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:06.84 - 33:07.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1986.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1987\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hei\u00dft<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:07.00 - 33:07.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1987\" data-end-seconds=\"1987.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:07.58 - 33:08.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1987.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1988.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:08.10 - 33:08.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1988.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1988.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nach<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:08.32 - 33:08.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1988.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1988.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anh\u00f6ren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:08.74 - 33:08.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1988.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1988.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> des<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:08.88 - 33:09.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1988.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1989.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcasts<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:09.54 - 33:10.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1989.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1990.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sofort<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:10.12 - 33:11.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1990.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1991.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> austesten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:11.56 - 33:12.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1991.56\" data-end-seconds=\"1992.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:12.14 - 33:12.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1992.14\" data-end-seconds=\"1992.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:12.38 - 33:12.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1992.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1992.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einfach<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:12.86 - 33:13.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1992.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1993.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:13.14 - 33:13.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1993.14\" data-end-seconds=\"1993.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> N\u00e4chste<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:13.44 - 33:13.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1993.44\" data-end-seconds=\"1993.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> angehen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:13.96 - 33:14.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1993.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1994.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Jan,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:14.18 - 33:14.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1994.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1994.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:14.30 - 33:14.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1994.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1994.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hei\u00dft<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:14.48 - 33:14.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1994.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1994.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4mlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:14.62 - 33:14.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1994.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1994.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:14.84 - 33:14.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1994.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1994.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:14.92 - 33:15.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1994.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1995.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> w\u00fcrden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:15.10 - 33:15.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1995.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1995.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:15.30 - 33:15.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1995.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1995.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wiederh\u00f6ren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:15.98 - 33:16.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1995.98\" data-end-seconds=\"1996.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:16.40 - 33:16.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1996.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1996.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:16.52 - 33:16.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1996.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1996.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:16.66 - 33:16.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1996.66\" data-end-seconds=\"1996.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:16.74 - 33:16.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1996.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1996.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:16.82 - 33:17.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1996.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1997\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bisschen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:17.00 - 33:17.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1997\" data-end-seconds=\"1997.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:17.22 - 33:17.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1997.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1997.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:17.80 - 33:18.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1997.8\" data-end-seconds=\"1998.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:18.10 - 33:18.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1998.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1998.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:18.20 - 33:18.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1998.2\" data-end-seconds=\"1998.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:18.32 - 33:18.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1998.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1998.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:18.48 - 33:18.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1998.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1998.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technik<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:18.96 - 33:19.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1998.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1999.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gelernt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:19.40 - 33:19.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1999.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1999.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:19.88 - 33:20.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1999.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2000.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:20.26 - 33:20.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2000.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2000.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:20.76 - 33:20.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2000.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2000.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> werden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:20.98 - 33:21.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2000.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2001.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:21.14 - 33:21.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2001.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2001.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:21.72 - 33:22.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2001.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2002.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> volle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:22.04 - 33:22.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2002.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2002.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:22.44 - 33:22.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2002.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2002.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:23.02 - 33:23.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2003.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2003.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> um<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:23.12 - 33:23.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2003.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2003.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:23.46 - 33:23.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2003.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2003.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:23.66 - 33:23.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2003.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2003.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirklich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:23.84 - 33:23.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2003.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2003.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:23.98 - 33:24.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2003.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2004.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bisschen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:24.28 - 33:24.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2004.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2004.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:24.46 - 33:24.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2004.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2004.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technik<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:24.86 - 33:25.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2004.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2005.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anzuschauen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:25.50 - 33:25.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2005.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2005.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:25.72 - 33:26.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2005.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2006.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:26.02 - 33:26.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2006.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2006.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gucken,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:26.60 - 33:26.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2006.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2006.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> womit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:26.96 - 33:27.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2006.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2007.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:27.08 - 33:27.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2007.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2007.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:27.20 - 33:27.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2007.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2007.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:27.26 - 33:27.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2007.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2007.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:27.40 - 33:27.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2007.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2007.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:27.60 - 33:27.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2007.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2007.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tun.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:28.24 - 33:28.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2008.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2008.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:28.46 - 33:28.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2008.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2008.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gerne.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:28.72 - 33:29.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2008.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2009.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:29.24 - 33:29.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2009.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2009.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:29.42 - 33:29.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2009.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2009.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erstmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:29.68 - 33:30.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2009.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2010.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:30.36 - 33:30.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2010.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2010.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> heute.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:31.24 - 33:31.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2011.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2011.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:32.50 - 33:32.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2012.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2012.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:32.60 - 33:32.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2012.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2012.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:32.72 - 33:32.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2012.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2012.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:32.90 - 33:33.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2012.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:33.20 - 33:33.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2013.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:33.46 - 33:33.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2013.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:33.64 - 33:33.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2013.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Danke,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:33.64 - 33:33.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2013.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> danke.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:34.18 - 33:34.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2014.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2014.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:34.84 - 33:35.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2014.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2015.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ebenfalls,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:35.34 - 33:35.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2015.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2015.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> danke.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_44\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2016.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2020.96\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"33:36.20\">[33:36]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:36.20 - 33:36.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2016.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2016.48\" data-confidence=\"1\">Bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:36.48 - 33:36.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2016.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2016.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:36.66 - 33:36.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2016.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2016.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:36.88 - 33:37.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2016.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2017.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mal.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:37.88 - 33:38.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2017.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.08 - 33:38.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> h\u00f6ren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.24 - 33:38.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.42 - 33:38.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wieder.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.86 - 33:39.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2019.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Macht&#8217;s<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:39.08 - 33:39.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2019.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2019.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gut,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:39.30 - 33:39.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2019.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2019.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:39.34 - 33:39.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2019.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2019.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beiden.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:39.86 - 33:40.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2019.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2020.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ciao.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:40.74 - 33:40.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2020.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2020.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tsch\u00fcss.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_45\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2021.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2084.46\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"33:41.68\">[33:41]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:41.68 - 33:42.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2021.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2022.12\" data-confidence=\"1\">Ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:42.42 - 33:42.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2022.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2022.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:42.86 - 33:42.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2022.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2022.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:42.98 - 33:43.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2022.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2023.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unser<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:43.12 - 33:43.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2023.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2023.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erster<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:43.36 - 33:43.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2023.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2023.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aufschlag<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:43.92 - 33:44.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2023.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2024.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:44.16 - 33:44.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2024.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2024.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:44.22 - 33:44.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2024.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2024.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kleinen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:44.42 - 33:45.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2024.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2025.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast-Reihe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:45.18 - 33:45.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2025.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2025.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:45.36 - 33:45.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2025.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2025.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:45.52 - 33:45.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2025.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2025.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:45.80 - 33:46.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2025.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2026.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:46.30 - 33:47.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2026.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2027.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> neue<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:47.08 - 33:47.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2027.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2027.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technologien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:47.78 - 33:48.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2027.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2028.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:48.04 - 33:48.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2028.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2028.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:48.16 - 33:48.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2028.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2028.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:48.68 - 33:49.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2028.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2029.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:49.06 - 33:49.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2029.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2029.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:49.24 - 33:49.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2029.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2029.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:49.38 - 33:50.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2029.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2030\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Beratung.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:50.12 - 33:50.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2030.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2030.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:50.36 - 33:50.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2030.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2030.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Jan<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:50.52 - 33:51.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2030.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2031.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Groenefeld.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:51.14 - 33:51.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2031.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2031.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:51.20 - 33:51.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2031.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2031.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:51.28 - 33:51.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2031.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2031.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:51.42 - 33:51.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2031.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2031.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:51.62 - 33:51.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2031.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2031.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bisschen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:51.88 - 33:52.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2031.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2032.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> herangetastet,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:52.78 - 33:52.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2032.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2032.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hatten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:52.94 - 33:53.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2032.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2033.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:53.16 - 33:53.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2033.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2033.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:53.42 - 33:54.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2033.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2034.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ausreichend<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:54.20 - 33:54.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2034.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2034.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:54.72 - 33:54.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2034.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2034.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:54.92 - 33:55.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2034.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2035.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:55.32 - 33:55.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2035.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2035.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:55.68 - 33:56.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2035.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2036.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nachgesehen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:56.74 - 33:57.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2036.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.10 - 33:57.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hatten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.22 - 33:57.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.34 - 33:57.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.42 - 33:57.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technik<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.72 - 33:57.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> am<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.84 - 33:58.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2038.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anfang<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:58.02 - 33:58.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2038.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2038.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:58.14 - 33:58.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2038.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2038.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bisschen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:58.28 - 33:58.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2038.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2038.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Schwierigkeit,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:58.96 - 33:59.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2038.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2039.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:59.20 - 33:59.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2039.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2039.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:59.34 - 33:59.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2039.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2039.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:59.46 - 33:59.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2039.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2039.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deutlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:59.88 - 34:00.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2039.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2040.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> raush\u00f6ren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:00.80 - 34:01.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2040.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2041.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:01.16 - 34:01.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2041.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2041.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> rausarbeiten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:01.74 - 34:02.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2041.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2042.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:02.10 - 34:02.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2042.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2042.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wo<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:02.60 - 34:02.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2042.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2042.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:02.94 - 34:03.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2042.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2043.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:03.10 - 34:03.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2043.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2043.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vorz\u00fcge<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:03.60 - 34:03.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2043.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2043.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:03.88 - 34:04.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2043.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2044.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:04.06 - 34:04.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2044.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2044.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> welchem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:04.38 - 34:04.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2044.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2044.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Fokus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:04.80 - 34:05.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2044.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2045.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sollte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:05.08 - 34:05.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2045.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2045.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:05.22 - 34:05.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2045.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2045.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:05.42 - 34:05.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2045.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2045.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:05.70 - 34:06.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2045.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2046.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> KI-Technologien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:06.96 - 34:07.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2046.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2047.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4hern<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:07.48 - 34:08.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2047.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.40 - 34:08.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.62 - 34:08.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.74 - 34:08.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirklich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.96 - 34:09.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2049.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sinnvoll<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:09.40 - 34:09.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2049.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2049.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:09.62 - 34:09.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2049.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2049.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:09.80 - 34:10.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2049.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2050\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:10.00 - 34:10.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2050\" data-end-seconds=\"2050.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tun.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:10.52 - 34:10.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2050.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2050.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:10.78 - 34:11.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2050.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2051.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> m\u00fcssen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:11.08 - 34:11.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2051.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2051.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:11.30 - 34:11.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2051.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2051.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:11.70 - 34:12.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2051.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2052.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unterlegen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:12.28 - 34:12.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2052.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2052.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fchlen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.34 - 34:13.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.56 - 34:13.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.68 - 34:13.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.90 - 34:14.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2054.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tun<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:14.28 - 34:14.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2054.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2054.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:14.56 - 34:14.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2054.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2054.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:14.72 - 34:15.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2054.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sollten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_8_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.10 - 34:15.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.32 - 34:15.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.50 - 34:15.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.68 - 34:15.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> lange<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.86 - 34:16.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2056.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> warten,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:16.28 - 34:16.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2056.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2056.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:16.40 - 34:16.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2056.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2056.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:16.54 - 34:16.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2056.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2056.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:16.80 - 34:17.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2056.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2057.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> irgendwie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:17.24 - 34:17.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2057.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2057.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zur<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:17.84 - 34:18.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2057.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2058.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> absoluten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:18.30 - 34:19.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2058.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2059.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Notwendigkeit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:19.04 - 34:19.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2059.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2059.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:19.94 - 34:20.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2059.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2060.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sondern<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:20.26 - 34:20.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2060.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2060.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:20.86 - 34:21.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2060.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2061.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erhobenen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.44 - 34:21.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2061.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Haupt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.98 - 34:22.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2062.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:22.64 - 34:22.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2062.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:22.98 - 34:23.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2063.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> guter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:23.36 - 34:23.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2063.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2063.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Position<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:23.84 - 34:24.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2063.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.32 - 34:24.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.50 - 34:24.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.66 - 34:25.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2065.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00f6glichkeiten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_10_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:25.38 - 34:26.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2065.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2066.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> befassen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:26.34 - 34:26.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2066.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2066.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Deshalb<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:26.86 - 34:27.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2066.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2067.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sprechen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:27.48 - 34:27.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2067.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2067.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:27.62 - 34:27.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2067.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2067.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:27.74 - 34:27.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2067.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2067.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:27.86 - 34:28.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2067.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2068.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:28.20 - 34:28.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2068.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2068.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:28.72 - 34:28.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2068.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2068.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deshalb<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:28.98 - 34:29.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2068.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> machen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.28 - 34:29.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.38 - 34:29.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unseren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_11_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.64 - 34:30.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2070.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> KI-Kompass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:30.44 - 34:30.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2070.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2070.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:30.64 - 34:30.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2070.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2070.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:30.80 - 34:31.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2070.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2071.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> <span id=\"timestamp_46_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.86 - 35:04.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.28\" data-confidence=\"1\">INKOVEMA<\/span>,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:31.62 - 34:31.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2071.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2071.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> damit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:31.96 - 34:32.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2071.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.16 - 34:32.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirklich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.46 - 34:32.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ins<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.70 - 34:32.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tun<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.92 - 34:33.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2073.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kommen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:33.20 - 34:33.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2073.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2073.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:33.66 - 34:33.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2073.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2073.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:33.82 - 34:34.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2073.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2074.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technik<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_12_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:34.28 - 34:34.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2074.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2074.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beherrschen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:34.82 - 34:35.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2074.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2075\" data-confidence=\"1\"> denn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:35.00 - 34:35.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2075\" data-end-seconds=\"2075.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:35.96 - 34:36.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2075.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2076.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:36.22 - 34:36.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2076.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2076.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dort<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:36.50 - 34:37.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2076.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2077.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:37.24 - 34:37.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2077.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2077.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Menschen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:37.68 - 34:38.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2077.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> am<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.58 - 34:39.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2079.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dr\u00fccker<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:39.32 - 34:39.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2079.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2079.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_13_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:39.72 - 34:40.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2079.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2080.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gestalten.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:40.52 - 34:40.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2080.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2080.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:40.96 - 34:41.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2080.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2081.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:41.30 - 34:41.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2081.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2081.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:41.42 - 34:41.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2081.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2081.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:41.64 - 34:42.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2081.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.02 - 34:42.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.16 - 34:42.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.40 - 34:42.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.76 - 34:43.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2083.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dabei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:43.04 - 34:43.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2083.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2083.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wart<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:43.38 - 34:44.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2083.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2084\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beim<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_14_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:44.00 - 34:44.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2084\" data-end-seconds=\"2084.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_46\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2109.66\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"34:45.16\">[34:45]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.16 - 34:45.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2085.3\" data-confidence=\"1\">Wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.30 - 34:45.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2085.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.80 - 34:46.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2086.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Interesse<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:46.60 - 34:46.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2086.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2086.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gefunden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:46.86 - 34:47.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2086.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.20 - 34:47.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.26 - 34:47.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> abonniert<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.72 - 34:47.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> doch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.86 - 34:48.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2088.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:48.02 - 34:48.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2088.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2088.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:48.40 - 34:48.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2088.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2088.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:48.66 - 34:48.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2088.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2088.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:48.92 - 34:49.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2088.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2089.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:49.08 - 34:49.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2089.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2089.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kollegen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:49.42 - 34:49.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2089.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2089.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:49.58 - 34:49.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2089.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2089.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Freunden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:49.84 - 34:50.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2089.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2090.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bescheid.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:50.30 - 34:50.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2090.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2090.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hinterlasst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:50.62 - 34:50.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2090.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2090.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:50.76 - 34:51.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2090.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2091.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Feedback<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:51.46 - 34:52.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2091.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2092.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:52.08 - 34:52.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2092.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2092.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:52.38 - 34:53.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2092.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sternebewertung,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.30 - 34:53.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.44 - 34:53.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hilft<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.74 - 34:53.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> uns<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.94 - 34:54.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2094.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nat\u00fcrlich,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:54.80 - 34:54.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2094.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2094.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:54.90 - 34:55.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2094.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2095.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:55.32 - 34:55.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2095.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2095.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weiterhin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:55.64 - 34:55.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2095.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2095.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bekannt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:55.96 - 34:56.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2095.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2096.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:56.18 - 34:56.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2096.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2096.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> machen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:56.74 - 34:56.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2096.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2096.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> F\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:56.90 - 34:57.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2096.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.02 - 34:57.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Moment<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.36 - 34:58.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2098.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:58.10 - 34:58.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2098.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2098.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:58.42 - 34:58.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2098.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2098.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> W\u00fcnschen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:58.72 - 34:59.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2098.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2099.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verabschiede<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.20 - 34:59.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2099.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.28 - 34:59.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2099.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.66 - 34:59.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2099.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.74 - 34:59.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2099.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.90 - 35:00.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.12 - 35:00.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mal.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.50 - 35:00.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kommt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.68 - 35:00.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.74 - 35:00.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.90 - 35:01.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2101.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:01.06 - 35:01.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2101.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2101.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:01.60 - 35:01.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2101.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2101.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:01.98 - 35:02.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2101.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2102.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:02.10 - 35:02.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2102.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2102.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sascha<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:02.36 - 35:02.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2102.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2102.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Weigel,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:02.92 - 35:03.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2102.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.08 - 35:03.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Host<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.32 - 35:03.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.86 - 35:04.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> INKOVEMA,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.30 - 35:04.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.40 - 35:04.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Institut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.78 - 35:04.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.90 - 35:05.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2105.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konflikt-<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:05.34 - 35:05.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2105.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2105.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:05.42 - 35:06.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2105.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2106.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Verhandlungsmanagement<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:06.28 - 35:06.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2106.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2106.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:06.48 - 35:06.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2106.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2106.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Leipzig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:06.84 - 35:07.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2106.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2107\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:07.00 - 35:07.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2107\" data-end-seconds=\"2107.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Partner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:07.32 - 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