{"id":16420,"date":"2025-07-26T00:20:42","date_gmt":"2025-07-25T22:20:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/?p=16420"},"modified":"2025-07-27T22:37:36","modified_gmt":"2025-07-27T20:37:36","slug":"30-edm-involuntary-mediation-because-the-client-does-not-want-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/30-edm-involuntary-mediation-because-the-client-does-not-want-it\/","title":{"rendered":"#30 EdM &#8211; Involuntary mediation because the client doesn't want it?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container gradient-container-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#30 EdM &#8211; Involuntary mediation because the client doesn't want it?<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-two\"><h2 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:24;line-height:1.5;\"><h2>If the client does not actually want mediation.<\/h2><\/h2><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-3 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>Episodes of mediation.<\/h4>\n<h4>The podcast on practical questions about mediation and conflict management.<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><p class=\"p1\"><em><b>Welcome to the episodes of mediation, <\/b><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><em>the INKOVEMA podcast on the practical issues of mediation and conflict management.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><em>I am Sascha Weigel and in this podcast I explain case questions from my mediation and conflict counselling practice. I present concepts and models of mediation and categorise different perspectives and decision-making options.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema-episoden-der-mediation.podigee.io\/30-30-edm-unfreiwillige-mediation-weil-der-auftraggeber-nicht-will\/embed?context=external\"><\/script>\n\n\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"text-align:center;\"><a class=\"fusion-button button-flat fusion-button-default-size button-default fusion-button-default button-1 fusion-button-default-span fusion-button-default-type\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/lms.inkovema.de\/elemente-der-mediation\/mediation\/prinzipien\/\"><span class=\"fusion-button-icon-divider button-icon-divider-left\"><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas awb-button__icon awb-button__icon--default\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-button-text awb-button__text awb-button__text--default fusion-button-text-left\">Element No. 02 &#8211; Principles of mediation<\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><div id=\"notifications\" class=\"fixed z-&#091;99999&#093; top-0 right-0 pt-8\">\n<div class=\"transition transform duration-1000 mb-5 mr-8 rounded shadow-md shadow-black\/30 p-3 w-72 bg-success-dark\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-controller=\"notification\" data-notification-delay-value=\"3000\" data-transition-enter-from=\"opacity-0 translate-x-6\" data-transition-enter-to=\"opacity-100 translate-x-0\" data-transition-leave-from=\"opacity-100 translate-x-0\" data-transition-leave-to=\"opacity-0 translate-x-6\" aria-live=\"polite\">\n<div class=\"flex items-start justify-between\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"flex relative\">\n<div class=\"w-full md:w-3\/4\">\n<div class=\"flex rounded shadow-md shadow-black\/15 bg-white p-4 mb-5 md:mb-5 min-h-&#091;8.375rem&#093;\">\n<div class=\"flex flex-col items-start md:flex-row md:items-center space-y-3 md:space-y-0 w-full\">\n<div class=\"flex flex-col grow self-start pt-0 md:pt-1\">\n<h1 class=\"uppercase mb-0.5\"><strong>Chapter<\/strong><\/h1>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"main_content_wrapper\" class=\"flex\">\n<div id=\"main_content\" class=\"md:w-3\/4 w-full\">\n<div class=\"shadow-md shadow-black\/15\" data-controller=\"tab-scroll\">\n<div id=\"general-tab-panel\" class=\"px-4 pt-4 pb-6 bg-white\" role=\"tabpanel\" aria-labelledby=\"general-tab\" data-tab-scroll-target=\"tabPanel\">\n<form id=\"episode-form-general\" accept-charset=\"UTF-8\" action=\"https:\/\/app.podigee.com\/podcasts\/38086\/episodes\/2034957\" method=\"post\" data-controller=\"auto-submit\" data-turbo-frame=\"_top\">\n<div class=\"md:space-y-3 border-b border-light-gray pb-5\">\n<div class=\"md:grid md:grid-cols-5 md:gap-x-2 md:gap-y-1 py-2 items-start\" data-controller=\"markdown-editor\" data-action=\"markdown-editor:save-&gt;auto-submit#submit\" data-markdown-editor-simple-controls-value=\"false\">\n<div class=\"flex mt-2 md:col-span-4 lg:col-span-3 md:mt-0\">\n<div id=\"1753481828752\" class=\"md-editor flex flex-col w-full\">\n<div class=\"md-preview w-full\" data-provider=\"markdown-preview\">\n<p>0:12 Introduction to mediation<\/p>\n<p>4:55 Involuntary mediation in the company<\/p>\n<p>7:43 Perspectives on the voluntary principle<\/p>\n<h1 id=\"inhaltlichezusammenfassung\"><strong>Summary of content<\/strong><\/h1>\n<p>In this episode of the podcast &#8222;Episodes of Mediation&#8220; by INKOVEMA, I deal with a particularly complex topic: involuntary mediation. This concerns situations in which the client of a mediation, which could theoretically be desired, does not actually want it in practice. Using specific case studies from my mediation practice, I explain how such contradictions arise and the challenges they pose when clarifying the mandate.<\/p>\n<p>I discuss the basic principles of mediation, in particular the principle of voluntariness, and highlight how this often proves problematic in reality. In a conversation with a colleague about\u00a0<strong>Organisational mediation<\/strong>\u00a0I realised that for many managers and employees, the idea of mediation is often an obligation that they do not choose voluntarily. This discrepancy leads to tensions and questions such as: Is mediation even feasible if the parties involved don't believe in it?<\/p>\n<p>In this episode, I have taken a specific case constellation as a basis, in which a team in a larger company suggested mediation, even though the division manager responsible did not consider it to be useful. This situation illustrates that pressure from below or from the employee representatives - in this case from the employees - often triggers the initiative for mediation, while the management level may disagree and could act differently in view of the conflicts, but does so for the sake of the works council.<\/p>\n<p>I advocate that mediators carefully scrutinise the willingness and motivation of the parties to the conflict and do not simply accept them because mediation has been commissioned. It is crucial to recognise and reflect on the internal attitudes of the parties before starting mediation. Here I also raise the question of the extent to which the endeavour to achieve voluntariness must be extended not only to the mediants, but also to the clients.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, I encourage the audience to share their own experiences and perspectives on this topic. Sharing ideas and criticisms is crucial to better understand the complexity of mediation in practice and to optimise the framework conditions for successful implementation.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/form>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-1 content-boxes-icon-boxed content-left\" style=\"--awb-title-color:#607d8b;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-margin-top:20px;--awb-margin-bottom:20px;--awb-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-circle-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-item-margin-bottom:40px;\" data-animationoffset=\"top-into-view\"><div style=\"--awb-backgroundcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;\" class=\"fusion-column content-box-column content-box-column content-box-column-1 col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-sm-12 fusion-content-box-hover content-box-column-last content-box-column-last-in-row\"><div class=\"col content-box-wrapper content-wrapper-background content-wrapper-boxed link-area-link-icon link-type-button icon-hover-animation-fade\" data-animationoffset=\"top-into-view\"><div class=\"heading heading-with-icon icon-left\"><a class=\"heading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/mediation-training\/mediation-training-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><div class=\"icon\"><i style=\"border-color:#81a0b8;border-width:1px;background-color:#d62f31;box-sizing:content-box;height:40px;width:40px;line-height:40px;top:-70px;margin-left:-20px;border-radius:50%;font-size:20px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"fontawesome-icon fa-bullhorn fas circle-yes\"><\/i><\/div><h2 class=\"content-box-heading fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"--h2_typography-font-size:18px;--fontSize:18;line-height:1.5;\">Mediation training<\/h2><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><div class=\"content-container\">\n<p>Our training in mediation and conflict management in the business and labour world,<\/p>\n<p>headed by Prof Dr Sascha Weigel.<\/p>\n<p>New start each year in March and October.<\/p>\n<p>Register now for the next course!<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><a class=\"fusion-read-more-button fusion-content-box-button fusion-button button-default fusion-button-default-size button- button-flat\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/mediation-training\/mediation-training-2\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"fusion-button-text\">More information here...<\/span><\/a><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-2 content-boxes-icon-boxed content-left\" style=\"--awb-title-color:#607d8b;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-margin-top:20px;--awb-margin-bottom:20px;--awb-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-circle-hover-accent-color:#607d8b;--awb-item-margin-bottom:40px;\" data-animationoffset=\"top-into-view\"><div style=\"--awb-backgroundcolor:#b4c6d6;--awb-iconcolor:#b4c6d6;\" class=\"fusion-column content-box-column content-box-column content-box-column-1 col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-sm-12 fusion-content-box-hover content-box-column-last content-box-column-last-in-row\"><div class=\"col content-box-wrapper content-wrapper-background content-wrapper-boxed link-area-link-icon link-type-button icon-hover-animation-fade\" data-animationoffset=\"top-into-view\"><div class=\"heading heading-with-icon icon-left\"><a class=\"heading-link\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/mediation-training\/business-mediation-training\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><div class=\"icon\"><i style=\"border-color:#81a0b8;border-width:1px;background-color:#d62f31;box-sizing:content-box;height:40px;width:40px;line-height:40px;top:-70px;margin-left:-20px;border-radius:50%;font-size:20px;\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"fontawesome-icon fa-info-circle fas circle-yes\"><\/i><\/div><h2 class=\"content-box-heading fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"--h2_typography-font-size:18px;--fontSize:18;line-height:1.5;\">Training in organisational mediation - mediation in and for organisations.<\/h2><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><div class=\"content-container\">\n<p>Organisational mediation is the handling of conflicts that arise in the business and working world. It takes place in, with and for the organisation - by enabling the relevant members of the organisation to deal with conflicts appropriately.<\/p>\n<p>We train you for this or professionalise your mediation and conflict counselling approach. We start our training programme regularly in March each year.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><a class=\"fusion-read-more-button fusion-content-box-button fusion-button button-default fusion-button-default-size button- button-flat\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/mediation-training\/business-mediation-training\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"fusion-button-text\">More information here...<\/span><\/a><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-3\"><p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"w-full\">\n<div class=\"py-12 px-2\" data-testid=\"transcript-editor\">\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_0\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"3.26\" data-end-seconds=\"9.16\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<h1 class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><strong>Full transcript<\/strong><\/h1>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:03]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Welcome to the podcast Episodes of Mediation, the podcast by<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6078878\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[0:12]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Introduction to mediation<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_1\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"9.16\" data-end-seconds=\"74.98\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:09]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">INKOVEMA on the practical issues of mediation and conflict management. I am Sascha Weigel and in this podcast I explain case questions from my mediation and conflict counselling practice. I present concepts and models of mediation and categorise different perspectives and decision-making options. This is episode 30: Involuntary mediation because the client doesn't want it? When the client doesn't actually want mediation. Yes, that's right. There is this paradoxical constellation where mediation takes place even though the client doesn't actually want it. And I don't mean that he is unaware of this, but simply that the same problem arises on the client side as on the mediator side in view of the principle of voluntariness. But first things first. In a conversation with a colleague who works as a mediator and is interested in organisational mediation.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_2\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"76.6\" data-end-seconds=\"107.96\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[1:16]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Interested, I wanted to explain the differences and issues that come up. And when I talked about the voluntary nature of it, it was clear to them that, oh yes, then they usually don't want to do it, the parties to the dispute, because they are forced to do so by their employer. And then I had already realised that there was a contradiction, but I hadn't yet realised exactly what it was all about. I left it at that and the next day I had a clarification meeting.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_3\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"108.92\" data-end-seconds=\"183.58\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[1:48]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">The constellation was as follows and it led to this case constellation. In one department, employees, superiors and team members had been at odds with each other for a long time, had misunderstood each other and had been quite hurt, emotionally hurt. The matter was actually clear. And yet mediation was suggested and wanted by this party. And it was then customary for me to ask for someone higher up in the hierarchy who would then take on the task of mediating with the employees. And so I was then referred to the head of department or division manager. And I explained to her what the situation was like and then asked, because it was a larger company where I knew that there was also an employee representative body, i.e. a works council, whether the works council was aware that this dialogue was taking place, that this mediation process was to take place. And that was denied and I found that strange.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_4\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"184.74\" data-end-seconds=\"237\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[3:04]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">He didn't know about this conversation specifically, but that this process was to take place. And that was also the starting point. It was supposed to be tried again here, but the people involved didn't actually want it that way. And I found it strange to then intervene, even if I then did a good job of ruining this assignment. Because the situation quickly turned out to be such that the division manager didn't think this mediation made sense either and it was actually clear that the poor performance and specific behaviour would be sufficient for a discontinued employment relationship based on a subjective point of view, but certainly well documented and in any case a firm opinion. And this also had to be made clear.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_5\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"237.92\" data-end-seconds=\"292.78\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[3:57]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">And the only point that ultimately prevented this declaration from being made was the intervention of the works council. This works council wanted another clarifying discussion to take place. But it didn't work out at all. And I then also made it clear that I actually think a clarifying discussion between the employer and the works council is the right thing to do here about how employees are treated and what culture is cultivated. And that might be worth a mediation meeting. But of course that's a completely different ball game, that's a completely different situation. Of course, the parties involved want to and can first see whether they can bring about clarification themselves before bringing in an expensive and confrontational external consultant or mediator. But this is supposed to be about the constellation and it is not uncommon, I would assume.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6078879\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[4:55]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Involuntary mediation in the company<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_6\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"293.06\" data-end-seconds=\"319.76\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"04:53.06\">[4:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_6_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:53.06 - 04:53.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"293.06\" data-end-seconds=\"293.52\" data-confidence=\"1\">And<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:53.52 - 04:53.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"293.52\" data-end-seconds=\"293.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> with pleasure<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:53.84 - 04:54.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"293.84\" data-end-seconds=\"294.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gives<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:54.38 - 04:54.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"294.38\" data-end-seconds=\"294.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Feedback,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:55.06 - 04:55.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"295.06\" data-end-seconds=\"295.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> when<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:55.16 - 04:55.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"295.16\" data-end-seconds=\"295.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> her<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:55.28 - 04:55.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"295.28\" data-end-seconds=\"295.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:55.50 - 04:55.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"295.5\" data-end-seconds=\"295.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:55.80 - 04:56.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"295.8\" data-end-seconds=\"296.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> knows.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:56.20 - 04:56.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"296.2\" data-end-seconds=\"296.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> In<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:56.86 - 04:58.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"296.86\" data-end-seconds=\"298.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Organisations<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:58.24 - 04:58.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"298.24\" data-end-seconds=\"298.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:58.96 - 04:59.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"298.96\" data-end-seconds=\"299.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sometimes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:59.46 - 04:59.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"299.46\" data-end-seconds=\"299.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"04:59.62 - 05:00.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"299.62\" data-end-seconds=\"300.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Situation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:00.14 - 05:01.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"300.14\" data-end-seconds=\"301.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:01.18 - 05:01.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"301.18\" data-end-seconds=\"301.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:01.48 - 05:02.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"301.48\" data-end-seconds=\"302.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> describe,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:02.40 - 05:02.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"302.4\" data-end-seconds=\"302.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:02.84 - 05:03.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"302.84\" data-end-seconds=\"303.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:03.06 - 05:04.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"303.06\" data-end-seconds=\"304.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Parties to the conflict,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:04.26 - 05:04.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"304.26\" data-end-seconds=\"304.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:04.32 - 05:05.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"304.32\" data-end-seconds=\"305.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> quarrelling<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:05.04 - 05:05.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"305.04\" data-end-seconds=\"305.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Persons,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:06.34 - 05:07.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"306.34\" data-end-seconds=\"307.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:07.36 - 05:07.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"307.36\" data-end-seconds=\"307.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:07.86 - 05:08.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"307.86\" data-end-seconds=\"308.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> want<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:08.42 - 05:09.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"308.42\" data-end-seconds=\"309.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:09.18 - 05:09.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"309.18\" data-end-seconds=\"309.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:09.36 - 05:09.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"309.36\" data-end-seconds=\"309.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> their<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:09.64 - 05:11.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"309.64\" data-end-seconds=\"311.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> superiors,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:11.20 - 05:11.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"311.2\" data-end-seconds=\"311.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:11.30 - 05:11.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"311.3\" data-end-seconds=\"311.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:11.48 - 05:12.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"311.48\" data-end-seconds=\"312.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Organisation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:12.04 - 05:12.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"312.04\" data-end-seconds=\"312.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Go<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:12.50 - 05:12.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"312.5\" data-end-seconds=\"312.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:12.76 - 05:13.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"312.76\" data-end-seconds=\"313\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:13.00 - 05:13.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"313\" data-end-seconds=\"313.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:13.32 - 05:13.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"313.32\" data-end-seconds=\"313.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:13.92 - 05:14.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"313.92\" data-end-seconds=\"314.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> en<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:14.22 - 05:14.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"314.22\" data-end-seconds=\"314.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> facto<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:14.62 - 05:15.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"314.62\" data-end-seconds=\"315.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> compel,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:15.46 - 05:15.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"315.46\" data-end-seconds=\"315.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:15.62 - 05:15.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"315.62\" data-end-seconds=\"315.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:15.76 - 05:16.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"315.76\" data-end-seconds=\"316.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Payment<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:16.42 - 05:16.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"316.42\" data-end-seconds=\"316.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:16.58 - 05:17.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"316.58\" data-end-seconds=\"317.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:17.18 - 05:17.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"317.18\" data-end-seconds=\"317.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:17.44 - 05:17.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"317.44\" data-end-seconds=\"317.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:17.58 - 05:18.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"317.58\" data-end-seconds=\"318.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Commissioning<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:18.64 - 05:19.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"318.64\" data-end-seconds=\"319.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_6_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:19.04 - 05:19.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"319.04\" data-end-seconds=\"319.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> external.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_7\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"320.69\" data-end-seconds=\"353.77\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"05:20.69\">[5:20]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:20.69 - 05:21.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"320.69\" data-end-seconds=\"321.35\" data-confidence=\"1\">Actually<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:21.35 - 05:21.85, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"321.35\" data-end-seconds=\"321.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> these<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:21.85 - 05:22.55, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"321.85\" data-end-seconds=\"322.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Persons<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:22.55 - 05:23.23, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"322.55\" data-end-seconds=\"323.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:23.23 - 05:23.43, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"323.23\" data-end-seconds=\"323.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> their<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:23.43 - 05:23.71, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"323.43\" data-end-seconds=\"323.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Role<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:23.71 - 05:24.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"323.71\" data-end-seconds=\"324.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> even<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:24.01 - 05:24.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"324.01\" data-end-seconds=\"324.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:24.17 - 05:24.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"324.17\" data-end-seconds=\"324.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:24.35 - 05:24.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"324.35\" data-end-seconds=\"324.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> very<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:24.59 - 05:24.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"324.59\" data-end-seconds=\"324.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in favour<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:24.97 - 05:25.45, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"324.97\" data-end-seconds=\"325.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> are<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:25.45 - 05:25.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"325.45\" data-end-seconds=\"325.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:25.81 - 05:26.31, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"325.81\" data-end-seconds=\"326.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:26.31 - 05:26.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"326.31\" data-end-seconds=\"326.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> exactly<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:26.57 - 05:26.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"326.57\" data-end-seconds=\"326.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> know,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:27.31 - 05:27.41, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"327.31\" data-end-seconds=\"327.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:27.41 - 05:27.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"327.41\" data-end-seconds=\"327.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:27.57 - 05:27.79, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"327.57\" data-end-seconds=\"327.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> actually<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:27.79 - 05:27.99, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"327.79\" data-end-seconds=\"327.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:27.99 - 05:28.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"327.99\" data-end-seconds=\"328.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> suitable<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:28.59 - 05:29.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"328.59\" data-end-seconds=\"329.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Instrument.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:29.93 - 05:30.43, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"329.93\" data-end-seconds=\"330.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> But<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:30.43 - 05:31.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"330.43\" data-end-seconds=\"331.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:31.11 - 05:31.47, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"331.11\" data-end-seconds=\"331.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Employees<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:31.47 - 05:31.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"331.47\" data-end-seconds=\"331.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> are<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:31.89 - 05:32.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"331.89\" data-end-seconds=\"332.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> there<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:32.13 - 05:32.71, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"332.13\" data-end-seconds=\"332.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> very<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:32.71 - 05:32.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"332.71\" data-end-seconds=\"332.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> thereof<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:32.97 - 05:33.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"332.97\" data-end-seconds=\"333.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> convinced<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:33.59 - 05:33.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"333.59\" data-end-seconds=\"333.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:33.77 - 05:34.29, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"333.77\" data-end-seconds=\"334.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:34.29 - 05:34.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"334.29\" data-end-seconds=\"334.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> leaves<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:34.63 - 05:34.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"334.63\" data-end-seconds=\"334.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> itself<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:34.81 - 05:34.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"334.81\" data-end-seconds=\"334.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> then<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:34.97 - 05:35.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"334.97\" data-end-seconds=\"335.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sometimes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:35.27 - 05:35.79, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"335.27\" data-end-seconds=\"335.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> heavy<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:35.79 - 05:36.55, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"335.79\" data-end-seconds=\"336.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> reject.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:37.01 - 05:37.45, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"337.01\" data-end-seconds=\"337.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> For<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:37.45 - 05:37.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"337.45\" data-end-seconds=\"337.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:37.61 - 05:38.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"337.61\" data-end-seconds=\"338.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediater<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:38.19 - 05:38.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"338.19\" data-end-seconds=\"338.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> provides<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:38.61 - 05:38.93, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"338.61\" data-end-seconds=\"338.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> itself<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:38.93 - 05:39.51, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"338.93\" data-end-seconds=\"339.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:39.51 - 05:39.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"339.51\" data-end-seconds=\"339.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:39.63 - 05:40.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"339.63\" data-end-seconds=\"340.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Practice,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:40.19 - 05:40.95, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"340.19\" data-end-seconds=\"340.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> have<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:40.95 - 05:41.03, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"340.95\" data-end-seconds=\"341.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:41.03 - 05:41.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"341.03\" data-end-seconds=\"341.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:41.11 - 05:41.33, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"341.11\" data-end-seconds=\"341.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Question<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:41.33 - 05:41.49, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"341.33\" data-end-seconds=\"341.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> still<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:41.49 - 05:41.65, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"341.49\" data-end-seconds=\"341.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_4_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:41.65 - 05:42.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"341.65\" data-end-seconds=\"342.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> belongs,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:42.29 - 05:42.45, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"342.29\" data-end-seconds=\"342.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> but<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:42.45 - 05:42.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"342.45\" data-end-seconds=\"342.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:42.59 - 05:42.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"342.59\" data-end-seconds=\"342.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:42.77 - 05:43.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"342.77\" data-end-seconds=\"343.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Theory<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:43.21 - 05:43.55, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"343.21\" data-end-seconds=\"343.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> should<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:43.55 - 05:43.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"343.55\" data-end-seconds=\"343.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:43.77 - 05:44.03, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"343.77\" data-end-seconds=\"344.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> on<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:44.03 - 05:44.31, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"344.03\" data-end-seconds=\"344.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> each<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:44.31 - 05:44.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"344.31\" data-end-seconds=\"344.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Case<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:44.61 - 05:45.03, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"344.61\" data-end-seconds=\"345.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> placed<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:45.03 - 05:45.45, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"345.03\" data-end-seconds=\"345.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> become,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:45.65 - 05:45.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"345.65\" data-end-seconds=\"345.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:45.97 - 05:46.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"345.97\" data-end-seconds=\"346.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:46.11 - 05:46.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"346.11\" data-end-seconds=\"346.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:46.63 - 05:46.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"346.63\" data-end-seconds=\"346.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> then<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:46.89 - 05:47.25, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"346.89\" data-end-seconds=\"347.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> at all<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:47.25 - 05:48.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"347.25\" data-end-seconds=\"348.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> feasible,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:48.41 - 05:48.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"348.41\" data-end-seconds=\"348.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> when<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:48.97 - 05:49.15, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"348.97\" data-end-seconds=\"349.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:49.15 - 05:50.41, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"349.15\" data-end-seconds=\"350.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Client<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:50.41 - 05:51.09, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"350.41\" data-end-seconds=\"351.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:51.09 - 05:51.71, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"351.09\" data-end-seconds=\"351.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:51.71 - 05:51.87, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"351.71\" data-end-seconds=\"351.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:51.87 - 05:52.05, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"351.87\" data-end-seconds=\"352.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Case<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:52.05 - 05:52.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"352.05\" data-end-seconds=\"352.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_7_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:52.19 - 05:53.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"352.19\" data-end-seconds=\"353.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Organisational mediation.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_8\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"354.65\" data-end-seconds=\"417.17\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"05:54.65\">[5:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_8_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:54.65 - 05:55.07, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"354.65\" data-end-seconds=\"355.07\" data-confidence=\"1\">The<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:55.07 - 05:55.33, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"355.07\" data-end-seconds=\"355.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> even<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:55.33 - 05:55.49, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"355.33\" data-end-seconds=\"355.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:55.49 - 05:55.87, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"355.49\" data-end-seconds=\"355.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wants.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:56.75 - 05:57.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"356.75\" data-end-seconds=\"357.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Jobs<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:57.35 - 05:57.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"357.35\" data-end-seconds=\"357.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> itself<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:57.57 - 05:57.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"357.57\" data-end-seconds=\"357.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> here<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:57.77 - 05:57.93, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"357.77\" data-end-seconds=\"357.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:57.93 - 05:58.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"357.93\" data-end-seconds=\"358.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:59.19 - 05:59.79, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"359.19\" data-end-seconds=\"359.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Voluntary topics<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:59.79 - 05:59.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"359.79\" data-end-seconds=\"359.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"05:59.97 - 06:00.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"359.97\" data-end-seconds=\"360.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Senses<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:00.13 - 06:00.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"360.13\" data-end-seconds=\"360.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> of the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:00.35 - 06:01.91, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"360.35\" data-end-seconds=\"361.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation Act,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:02.05 - 06:03.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"362.05\" data-end-seconds=\"363.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> likewise<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:03.01 - 06:03.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"363.01\" data-end-seconds=\"363.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> like<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:03.19 - 06:03.37, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"363.19\" data-end-seconds=\"363.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> with<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:03.37 - 06:03.51, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"363.37\" data-end-seconds=\"363.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:03.51 - 06:04.31, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"363.51\" data-end-seconds=\"364.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> constellation,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:04.47 - 06:04.55, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"364.47\" data-end-seconds=\"364.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:04.55 - 06:05.03, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"364.55\" data-end-seconds=\"365.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:05.03 - 06:05.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"365.03\" data-end-seconds=\"365.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:05.19 - 06:06.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"365.19\" data-end-seconds=\"366.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Parties to the conflict<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:06.19 - 06:07.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"366.19\" data-end-seconds=\"367.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:07.01 - 06:07.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"367.01\" data-end-seconds=\"367.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:07.21 - 06:07.51, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"367.21\" data-end-seconds=\"367.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> right<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:07.51 - 06:08.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"367.51\" data-end-seconds=\"368.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wants<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_2_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:08.17 - 06:08.47, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"368.17\" data-end-seconds=\"368.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> or,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:09.09 - 06:09.69, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"369.09\" data-end-seconds=\"369.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> itself<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:09.69 - 06:10.25, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"369.69\" data-end-seconds=\"370.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> forced<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:10.25 - 06:10.79, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"370.25\" data-end-seconds=\"370.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> feels,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:11.01 - 06:11.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"371.01\" data-end-seconds=\"371.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> this<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:11.27 - 06:11.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"371.27\" data-end-seconds=\"371.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Conversation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:11.81 - 06:12.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"371.81\" data-end-seconds=\"372.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to be carried out.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:13.09 - 06:13.69, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"373.09\" data-end-seconds=\"373.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Should<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:13.69 - 06:13.85, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"373.69\" data-end-seconds=\"373.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:13.85 - 06:13.99, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"373.85\" data-end-seconds=\"373.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:13.99 - 06:14.79, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"373.99\" data-end-seconds=\"374.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Voluntariness<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:14.79 - 06:15.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"374.79\" data-end-seconds=\"375.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:15.17 - 06:15.49, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"375.17\" data-end-seconds=\"375.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:15.49 - 06:15.69, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"375.49\" data-end-seconds=\"375.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> on<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:15.69 - 06:16.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"375.69\" data-end-seconds=\"376.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> these<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:16.17 - 06:16.95, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"376.17\" data-end-seconds=\"376.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Participants<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:16.95 - 06:17.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"376.95\" data-end-seconds=\"377.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:17.19 - 06:17.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"377.19\" data-end-seconds=\"377.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:17.89 - 06:19.29, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"377.89\" data-end-seconds=\"379.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Coins<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:19.29 - 06:19.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"379.29\" data-end-seconds=\"379.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:19.75 - 06:20.03, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"379.75\" data-end-seconds=\"380.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:20.03 - 06:20.67, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"380.03\" data-end-seconds=\"380.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Topic<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:20.67 - 06:22.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"380.67\" data-end-seconds=\"382.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Voluntariness principle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:22.27 - 06:22.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"382.27\" data-end-seconds=\"382.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> again<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:22.97 - 06:23.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"382.97\" data-end-seconds=\"383.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> from<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:23.57 - 06:23.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"383.57\" data-end-seconds=\"383.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:23.81 - 06:24.69, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"383.81\" data-end-seconds=\"384.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Perspective<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:24.69 - 06:26.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"384.69\" data-end-seconds=\"386.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sharper edges<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:26.01 - 06:26.79, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"386.01\" data-end-seconds=\"386.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> view.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:27.15 - 06:27.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"387.15\" data-end-seconds=\"387.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> About this<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:27.97 - 06:28.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"387.97\" data-end-seconds=\"388.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> becomes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:28.21 - 06:28.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"388.21\" data-end-seconds=\"388.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:28.63 - 06:29.15, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"388.63\" data-end-seconds=\"389.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> In my opinion<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:29.15 - 06:29.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"389.15\" data-end-seconds=\"389.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> clearly,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:29.91 - 06:30.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"389.91\" data-end-seconds=\"390.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:30.21 - 06:30.37, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"390.21\" data-end-seconds=\"390.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> it<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:30.37 - 06:30.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"390.37\" data-end-seconds=\"390.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> even<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:30.59 - 06:31.07, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"390.59\" data-end-seconds=\"391.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:31.07 - 06:31.53, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"391.07\" data-end-seconds=\"391.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> at<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:31.53 - 06:32.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"391.53\" data-end-seconds=\"392.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Desire<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:32.17 - 06:32.39, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"392.17\" data-end-seconds=\"392.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:32.39 - 06:32.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"392.39\" data-end-seconds=\"392.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mood<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_6_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:32.81 - 06:33.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"392.81\" data-end-seconds=\"393.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> goes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:33.13 - 06:33.39, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"393.13\" data-end-seconds=\"393.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> with<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:33.39 - 06:34.41, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"393.39\" data-end-seconds=\"394.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Voluntariness<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:34.41 - 06:34.69, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"394.41\" data-end-seconds=\"394.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:34.69 - 06:34.85, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"394.69\" data-end-seconds=\"394.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:34.85 - 06:35.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"394.85\" data-end-seconds=\"395.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> free<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:35.27 - 06:35.53, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"395.27\" data-end-seconds=\"395.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Will<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:35.53 - 06:35.69, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"395.53\" data-end-seconds=\"395.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> itself<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:35.69 - 06:36.09, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"395.69\" data-end-seconds=\"396.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> therein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:36.09 - 06:36.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"396.09\" data-end-seconds=\"396.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> expresses,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:36.77 - 06:36.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"396.77\" data-end-seconds=\"396.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:36.89 - 06:37.03, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"396.89\" data-end-seconds=\"397.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:37.03 - 06:37.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"397.03\" data-end-seconds=\"397.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> with<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:37.21 - 06:37.45, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"397.21\" data-end-seconds=\"397.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:37.45 - 06:38.07, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"397.45\" data-end-seconds=\"398.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Smile<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:38.07 - 06:38.71, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"398.07\" data-end-seconds=\"398.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:38.71 - 06:39.23, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"398.71\" data-end-seconds=\"399.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:39.23 - 06:39.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"399.23\" data-end-seconds=\"399.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> opened,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:40.17 - 06:40.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"400.17\" data-end-seconds=\"400.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> but<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:40.75 - 06:41.07, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"400.75\" data-end-seconds=\"401.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:41.07 - 06:41.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"401.07\" data-end-seconds=\"401.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:41.27 - 06:41.67, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"401.27\" data-end-seconds=\"401.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> a<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:41.67 - 06:42.79, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"401.67\" data-end-seconds=\"402.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> complex,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:42.97 - 06:43.95, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"402.97\" data-end-seconds=\"403.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> multi-layered<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:43.95 - 06:45.45, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"403.95\" data-end-seconds=\"405.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Weighing programme<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:45.45 - 06:45.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"405.45\" data-end-seconds=\"405.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:46.17 - 06:46.33, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"406.17\" data-end-seconds=\"406.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> with<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:46.33 - 06:46.51, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"406.33\" data-end-seconds=\"406.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:46.51 - 06:46.91, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"406.51\" data-end-seconds=\"406.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:46.91 - 06:47.33, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"406.91\" data-end-seconds=\"407.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> good<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:47.33 - 06:47.65, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"407.33\" data-end-seconds=\"407.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Reasons<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:47.65 - 06:47.93, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"407.65\" data-end-seconds=\"407.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in favour<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:47.93 - 06:48.49, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"407.93\" data-end-seconds=\"408.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> exist,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:48.61 - 06:48.87, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"408.61\" data-end-seconds=\"408.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> No<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:48.87 - 06:49.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"408.87\" data-end-seconds=\"409.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:49.19 - 06:49.53, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"409.19\" data-end-seconds=\"409.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> say,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:49.75 - 06:49.87, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"409.75\" data-end-seconds=\"409.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> but<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:49.87 - 06:50.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"409.87\" data-end-seconds=\"410.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ultimately<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:50.57 - 06:51.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"410.57\" data-end-seconds=\"411.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> a<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_10_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:51.19 - 06:51.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"411.19\" data-end-seconds=\"411.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Yes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:51.57 - 06:52.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"411.57\" data-end-seconds=\"412.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> decided<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:52.61 - 06:53.07, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"412.61\" data-end-seconds=\"413.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:53.07 - 06:53.37, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"413.07\" data-end-seconds=\"413.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:53.37 - 06:54.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"413.37\" data-end-seconds=\"414.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> communicates<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:54.27 - 06:54.65, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"414.27\" data-end-seconds=\"414.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:55.07 - 06:55.47, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"415.07\" data-end-seconds=\"415.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Who<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:55.47 - 06:55.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"415.47\" data-end-seconds=\"415.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:55.75 - 06:55.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"415.75\" data-end-seconds=\"415.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> as<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:55.97 - 06:56.87, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"415.97\" data-end-seconds=\"416.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediator<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_8_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:56.87 - 06:57.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"416.87\" data-end-seconds=\"417.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_9\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"417.72\" data-end-seconds=\"462.94\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"06:57.72\">[6:57]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:57.72 - 06:58.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"417.72\" data-end-seconds=\"418.18\" data-confidence=\"1\">Very<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:58.18 - 06:58.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"418.18\" data-end-seconds=\"418.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> exactly<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:58.68 - 06:59.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"418.68\" data-end-seconds=\"419.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> detected,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:59.82 - 06:59.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"419.82\" data-end-seconds=\"419.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> like<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"06:59.90 - 07:00.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"419.9\" data-end-seconds=\"420.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:00.06 - 07:01.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"420.06\" data-end-seconds=\"421.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Parties to the conflict<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:01.10 - 07:01.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"421.1\" data-end-seconds=\"421.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:01.28 - 07:01.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"421.28\" data-end-seconds=\"421.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Room<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:01.56 - 07:01.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"421.56\" data-end-seconds=\"421.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> are<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:01.88 - 07:02.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"421.88\" data-end-seconds=\"422.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:02.04 - 07:02.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"422.04\" data-end-seconds=\"422.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> whether<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:02.22 - 07:02.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"422.22\" data-end-seconds=\"422.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> them<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:02.36 - 07:02.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"422.36\" data-end-seconds=\"422.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:02.52 - 07:02.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"422.52\" data-end-seconds=\"422.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:02.70 - 07:03.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"422.7\" data-end-seconds=\"423.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> really<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:03.04 - 07:03.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"423.04\" data-end-seconds=\"423.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> want,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:03.66 - 07:03.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"423.66\" data-end-seconds=\"423.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> these<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:03.78 - 07:04.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"423.78\" data-end-seconds=\"424.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:04.66 - 07:04.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"424.66\" data-end-seconds=\"424.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> at<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:04.80 - 07:05.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"424.8\" data-end-seconds=\"425.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:05.42 - 07:05.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"425.42\" data-end-seconds=\"425.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> fast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:05.70 - 07:05.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"425.7\" data-end-seconds=\"425.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> like<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:05.82 - 07:06.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"425.82\" data-end-seconds=\"426.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> possible<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:06.14 - 07:06.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"426.14\" data-end-seconds=\"426.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> say<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:06.48 - 07:06.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"426.48\" data-end-seconds=\"426.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:06.70 - 07:06.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"426.7\" data-end-seconds=\"426.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> can,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:06.94 - 07:07.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"426.94\" data-end-seconds=\"427.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> no,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:07.64 - 07:07.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"427.64\" data-end-seconds=\"427.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> under<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:07.80 - 07:07.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"427.8\" data-end-seconds=\"427.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:07.96 - 07:08.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"427.96\" data-end-seconds=\"428.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Circumstances<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:08.32 - 07:08.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"428.32\" data-end-seconds=\"428.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> am<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:08.46 - 07:08.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"428.46\" data-end-seconds=\"428.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:08.56 - 07:08.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"428.56\" data-end-seconds=\"428.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> even<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:08.70 - 07:08.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"428.7\" data-end-seconds=\"428.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:08.82 - 07:09.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"428.82\" data-end-seconds=\"429.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ready,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:09.24 - 07:09.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"429.24\" data-end-seconds=\"429.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> because<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:09.32 - 07:09.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"429.32\" data-end-seconds=\"429.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:09.42 - 07:09.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"429.42\" data-end-seconds=\"429.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> against<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:09.56 - 07:09.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"429.56\" data-end-seconds=\"429.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:09.72 - 07:10.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"429.72\" data-end-seconds=\"430.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation Act<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_2_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:10.40 - 07:10.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"430.4\" data-end-seconds=\"430.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> violates.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:11.08 - 07:11.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"431.08\" data-end-seconds=\"431.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> The<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:11.56 - 07:11.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"431.56\" data-end-seconds=\"431.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> should<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:11.80 - 07:11.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"431.8\" data-end-seconds=\"431.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> itself<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:11.98 - 07:12.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"431.98\" data-end-seconds=\"432.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> superior,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:12.40 - 07:12.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"432.4\" data-end-seconds=\"432.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> whether<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:12.48 - 07:12.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"432.48\" data-end-seconds=\"432.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> he<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:12.54 - 07:12.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"432.54\" data-end-seconds=\"432.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> just as<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:12.94 - 07:13.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"432.94\" data-end-seconds=\"433.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> fine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:13.40 - 07:14.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"433.4\" data-end-seconds=\"434.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> detected,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:14.48 - 07:14.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"434.48\" data-end-seconds=\"434.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> like<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:14.98 - 07:15.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"434.98\" data-end-seconds=\"435.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> because<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:15.12 - 07:15.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"435.12\" data-end-seconds=\"435.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:15.26 - 07:16.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"435.26\" data-end-seconds=\"436.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Client persons<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:16.72 - 07:16.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"436.72\" data-end-seconds=\"436.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:16.94 - 07:17.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"436.94\" data-end-seconds=\"437.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:17.56 - 07:18.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"437.56\" data-end-seconds=\"438.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> steal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:18.28 - 07:18.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"438.28\" data-end-seconds=\"438.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> or<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:18.86 - 07:19.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"438.86\" data-end-seconds=\"439.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> whether<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:19.10 - 07:19.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"439.1\" data-end-seconds=\"439.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> them<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:19.24 - 07:19.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"439.24\" data-end-seconds=\"439.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:19.40 - 07:19.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"439.4\" data-end-seconds=\"439.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> simple<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:19.80 - 07:20.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"439.8\" data-end-seconds=\"440.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:20.32 - 07:20.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"440.32\" data-end-seconds=\"440.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> good<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:20.96 - 07:21.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"440.96\" data-end-seconds=\"441.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:21.32 - 07:21.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"441.32\" data-end-seconds=\"441.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:21.60 - 07:21.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"441.6\" data-end-seconds=\"441.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> evil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:21.98 - 07:22.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"441.98\" data-end-seconds=\"442.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Game<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_4_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:22.36 - 07:22.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"442.36\" data-end-seconds=\"442.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> make,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:23.06 - 07:23.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"443.06\" data-end-seconds=\"443.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> because<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:23.64 - 07:23.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"443.64\" data-end-seconds=\"443.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:23.80 - 07:24.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"443.8\" data-end-seconds=\"444.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bad<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:24.36 - 07:24.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"444.36\" data-end-seconds=\"444.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> against<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:24.70 - 07:25.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"444.7\" data-end-seconds=\"445.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:25.50 - 07:26.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"445.5\" data-end-seconds=\"446.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> argues<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:26.42 - 07:26.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"446.42\" data-end-seconds=\"446.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> become<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:26.66 - 07:27.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"446.66\" data-end-seconds=\"447\" data-confidence=\"1\"> can.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:27.00 - 07:27.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"447\" data-end-seconds=\"447.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> What<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:27.82 - 07:28.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"447.82\" data-end-seconds=\"448.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> would be<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:28.04 - 07:28.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"448.04\" data-end-seconds=\"448.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:28.28 - 07:28.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"448.28\" data-end-seconds=\"448.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> because<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:28.44 - 07:28.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"448.44\" data-end-seconds=\"448.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:28.60 - 07:28.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"448.6\" data-end-seconds=\"448.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:28.74 - 07:28.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"448.74\" data-end-seconds=\"448.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> a<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:28.94 - 07:29.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"448.94\" data-end-seconds=\"449.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Feedback<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:29.38 - 07:29.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"449.38\" data-end-seconds=\"449.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> from<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:29.56 - 07:30.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"449.56\" data-end-seconds=\"450.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Client persons<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:30.64 - 07:30.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"450.64\" data-end-seconds=\"450.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:30.78 - 07:31.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"450.78\" data-end-seconds=\"451.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Organisations,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:31.64 - 07:31.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"451.64\" data-end-seconds=\"451.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:31.76 - 07:31.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"451.76\" data-end-seconds=\"451.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:31.96 - 07:32.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"451.96\" data-end-seconds=\"452.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:32.50 - 07:32.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"452.5\" data-end-seconds=\"452.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:32.78 - 07:33.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"452.78\" data-end-seconds=\"453.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> your<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:33.20 - 07:34.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"453.2\" data-end-seconds=\"454.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Trap<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:34.12 - 07:34.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"454.12\" data-end-seconds=\"454.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> little<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:34.52 - 07:35.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"454.52\" data-end-seconds=\"455.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> promising<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:35.86 - 07:36.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"455.86\" data-end-seconds=\"456.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> appears?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:36.64 - 07:37.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"456.64\" data-end-seconds=\"457\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:37.00 - 07:37.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"457\" data-end-seconds=\"457.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> know<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:37.24 - 07:37.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"457.24\" data-end-seconds=\"457.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> you<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:37.44 - 07:37.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"457.44\" data-end-seconds=\"457.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> yes,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:37.86 - 07:38.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"457.86\" data-end-seconds=\"458.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:38.56 - 07:38.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"458.56\" data-end-seconds=\"458.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> love<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:38.78 - 07:39.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"458.78\" data-end-seconds=\"459.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ladies<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:39.04 - 07:39.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"459.04\" data-end-seconds=\"459.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:39.36 - 07:39.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"459.36\" data-end-seconds=\"459.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:39.58 - 07:39.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"459.58\" data-end-seconds=\"459.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> love<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:39.84 - 07:40.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"459.84\" data-end-seconds=\"460.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gentlemen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:40.58 - 07:40.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"460.58\" data-end-seconds=\"460.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:40.98 - 07:41.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"460.98\" data-end-seconds=\"461.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> it<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:41.22 - 07:41.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"461.22\" data-end-seconds=\"461.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> as far as<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:41.84 - 07:42.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"461.84\" data-end-seconds=\"462.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> here<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:42.04 - 07:42.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"462.04\" data-end-seconds=\"462.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Driven<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_9_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:42.60 - 07:42.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"462.6\" data-end-seconds=\"462.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> have.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_6078880\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[7:43]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Perspectives on the voluntary principle<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_10\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"463.7\" data-end-seconds=\"477\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"07:43.70\">[7:43]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:43.70 - 07:43.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"463.7\" data-end-seconds=\"463.98\" data-confidence=\"1\">These<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:43.98 - 07:45.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"463.98\" data-end-seconds=\"465.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> admittedly<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:45.28 - 07:45.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"465.28\" data-end-seconds=\"465.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> very<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:45.54 - 07:46.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"465.54\" data-end-seconds=\"466.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> specific<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:46.26 - 07:47.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"466.26\" data-end-seconds=\"467.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> constellation,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:47.30 - 07:47.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"467.3\" data-end-seconds=\"467.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:47.36 - 07:47.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"467.36\" data-end-seconds=\"467.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> but<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:47.50 - 07:47.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"467.5\" data-end-seconds=\"467.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:47.60 - 07:47.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"467.6\" data-end-seconds=\"467.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:47.68 - 07:48.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"467.68\" data-end-seconds=\"468.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Practice<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:48.10 - 07:48.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"468.1\" data-end-seconds=\"468.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> really<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:48.66 - 07:49.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"468.66\" data-end-seconds=\"469.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Relevance<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:49.22 - 07:49.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"469.22\" data-end-seconds=\"469.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> has,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:50.00 - 07:50.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"470\" data-end-seconds=\"470.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> can<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:50.14 - 07:50.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"470.14\" data-end-seconds=\"470.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> again<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:50.50 - 07:51.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"470.5\" data-end-seconds=\"471.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> clarify,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:51.72 - 07:51.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"471.72\" data-end-seconds=\"471.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:51.82 - 07:52.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"471.82\" data-end-seconds=\"472.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> with<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:52.58 - 07:53.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"472.58\" data-end-seconds=\"473.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> which<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:53.24 - 07:54.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"473.24\" data-end-seconds=\"474.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Perspective<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:54.24 - 07:54.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"474.24\" data-end-seconds=\"474.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:54.50 - 07:54.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"474.5\" data-end-seconds=\"474.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:54.74 - 07:56.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"474.74\" data-end-seconds=\"476.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Voluntariness principle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:56.10 - 07:56.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"476.1\" data-end-seconds=\"476.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> strong<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_10_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:56.62 - 07:57.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"476.62\" data-end-seconds=\"477\" data-confidence=\"1\"> makes.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_11\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"477.92\" data-end-seconds=\"528.42\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"07:57.92\">[7:57]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:57.92 - 07:58.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"477.92\" data-end-seconds=\"478.08\" data-confidence=\"1\">And<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:58.08 - 07:58.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"478.08\" data-end-seconds=\"478.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:58.24 - 07:58.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"478.24\" data-end-seconds=\"478.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> shall<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:58.38 - 07:58.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"478.38\" data-end-seconds=\"478.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> it<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:58.46 - 07:58.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"478.46\" data-end-seconds=\"478.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:58.58 - 07:58.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"478.58\" data-end-seconds=\"478.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> today<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:58.80 - 07:59.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"478.8\" data-end-seconds=\"479\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:59.00 - 07:59.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"479\" data-end-seconds=\"479.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> been<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"07:59.42 - 07:59.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"479.42\" data-end-seconds=\"479.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> be,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:00.18 - 08:00.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"480.18\" data-end-seconds=\"480.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> this<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:00.74 - 08:01.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"480.74\" data-end-seconds=\"481.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aspect<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:01.62 - 08:02.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"481.62\" data-end-seconds=\"482.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:02.20 - 08:02.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"482.2\" data-end-seconds=\"482.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Topic<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:02.54 - 08:03.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"482.54\" data-end-seconds=\"483.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Voluntariness<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:03.42 - 08:04.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"483.42\" data-end-seconds=\"484.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:04.12 - 08:04.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"484.12\" data-end-seconds=\"484.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:04.96 - 08:06.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"484.96\" data-end-seconds=\"486.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Constellation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:06.60 - 08:07.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"486.6\" data-end-seconds=\"487.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> named<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:07.16 - 08:07.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"487.16\" data-end-seconds=\"487.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:07.34 - 08:07.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"487.34\" data-end-seconds=\"487.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> have.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:07.64 - 08:08.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"487.64\" data-end-seconds=\"488.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> When<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:08.22 - 08:08.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"488.22\" data-end-seconds=\"488.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> you<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:08.34 - 08:08.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"488.34\" data-end-seconds=\"488.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Similar<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:08.84 - 08:09.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"488.84\" data-end-seconds=\"489.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> know<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:09.44 - 08:09.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"489.44\" data-end-seconds=\"489.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> or<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:09.90 - 08:10.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"489.9\" data-end-seconds=\"490.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> still<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:10.22 - 08:10.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"490.22\" data-end-seconds=\"490.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Variations,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:11.18 - 08:11.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"491.18\" data-end-seconds=\"491.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:11.32 - 08:11.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"491.32\" data-end-seconds=\"491.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> still<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:11.98 - 08:12.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"491.98\" data-end-seconds=\"492.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:12.24 - 08:13.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"492.24\" data-end-seconds=\"493.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> additional<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:13.08 - 08:13.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"493.08\" data-end-seconds=\"493.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Building block<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:13.70 - 08:14.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"493.7\" data-end-seconds=\"494.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bring<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:14.08 - 08:14.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"494.08\" data-end-seconds=\"494.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> can,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:14.92 - 08:15.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"494.92\" data-end-seconds=\"495.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> then<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:15.30 - 08:15.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"495.3\" data-end-seconds=\"495.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> write<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:15.84 - 08:15.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"495.84\" data-end-seconds=\"495.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> me<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:15.98 - 08:16.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"495.98\" data-end-seconds=\"496.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> with pleasure<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:16.34 - 08:17.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"496.34\" data-end-seconds=\"497.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:17.18 - 08:17.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"497.18\" data-end-seconds=\"497.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> contact<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:17.86 - 08:18.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"497.86\" data-end-seconds=\"498.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> me<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:18.10 - 08:18.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"498.1\" data-end-seconds=\"498.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> under<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:18.46 - 08:20.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"498.46\" data-end-seconds=\"500.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> s.weigel.inkofema.de<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:20.78 - 08:21.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"500.78\" data-end-seconds=\"501.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> or<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:21.18 - 08:21.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"501.18\" data-end-seconds=\"501.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Go<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:21.80 - 08:22.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"501.8\" data-end-seconds=\"502.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> direct<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:22.06 - 08:22.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"502.06\" data-end-seconds=\"502.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> on<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:22.24 - 08:22.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"502.24\" data-end-seconds=\"502.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:22.36 - 08:22.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"502.36\" data-end-seconds=\"502.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Website<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:22.94 - 08:23.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"502.94\" data-end-seconds=\"503.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:23.28 - 08:23.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"503.28\" data-end-seconds=\"503.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Go<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:23.50 - 08:23.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"503.5\" data-end-seconds=\"503.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> there<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:23.68 - 08:23.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"503.68\" data-end-seconds=\"503.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> on<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:23.86 - 08:24.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"503.86\" data-end-seconds=\"504.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:24.04 - 08:24.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"504.04\" data-end-seconds=\"504.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Contact form.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:25.76 - 08:26.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"505.76\" data-end-seconds=\"506.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> For<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:26.40 - 08:26.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"506.4\" data-end-seconds=\"506.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:26.50 - 08:26.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"506.5\" data-end-seconds=\"506.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Moment<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:26.74 - 08:27.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"506.74\" data-end-seconds=\"507.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> thank you<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:27.14 - 08:27.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"507.14\" data-end-seconds=\"507.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:27.24 - 08:27.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"507.24\" data-end-seconds=\"507.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> me,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:27.58 - 08:27.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"507.58\" data-end-seconds=\"507.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:27.74 - 08:27.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"507.74\" data-end-seconds=\"507.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> you<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:27.96 - 08:28.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"507.96\" data-end-seconds=\"508.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> here<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:28.36 - 08:28.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"508.36\" data-end-seconds=\"508.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> with<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:28.94 - 08:29.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"508.94\" data-end-seconds=\"509.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> thereby<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:29.18 - 08:29.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"509.18\" data-end-seconds=\"509.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> were.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:29.96 - 08:30.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"509.96\" data-end-seconds=\"510.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Give<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:30.40 - 08:30.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"510.4\" data-end-seconds=\"510.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> with pleasure<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:30.66 - 08:31.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"510.66\" data-end-seconds=\"511.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Feedback<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:31.24 - 08:31.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"511.24\" data-end-seconds=\"511.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:31.82 - 08:32.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"511.82\" data-end-seconds=\"512.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> support<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:32.94 - 08:33.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"512.94\" data-end-seconds=\"513.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> this<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:33.22 - 08:33.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"513.22\" data-end-seconds=\"513.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:33.72 - 08:34.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"513.72\" data-end-seconds=\"514.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:34.26 - 08:34.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"514.26\" data-end-seconds=\"514.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> his<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:34.50 - 08:35.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"514.5\" data-end-seconds=\"515.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Distribution<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:35.22 - 08:36.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"515.22\" data-end-seconds=\"516.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:36.14 - 08:36.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"516.14\" data-end-seconds=\"516.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> content<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:36.78 - 08:37.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"516.78\" data-end-seconds=\"517.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Alignment.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:38.02 - 08:38.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"518.02\" data-end-seconds=\"518.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Comes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:38.60 - 08:38.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"518.6\" data-end-seconds=\"518.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> good<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:38.70 - 08:38.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"518.7\" data-end-seconds=\"518.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> through<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:38.84 - 08:39.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"518.84\" data-end-seconds=\"519.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:39.02 - 08:39.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"519.02\" data-end-seconds=\"519.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Time.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:39.54 - 08:39.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"519.54\" data-end-seconds=\"519.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:39.86 - 08:39.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"519.86\" data-end-seconds=\"519.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> am<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:39.98 - 08:40.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"519.98\" data-end-seconds=\"520.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sascha<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:40.24 - 08:40.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"520.24\" data-end-seconds=\"520.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Weigel,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:41.10 - 08:41.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"521.1\" data-end-seconds=\"521.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> yours<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:41.22 - 08:41.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"521.22\" data-end-seconds=\"521.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Host<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:41.42 - 08:41.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"521.42\" data-end-seconds=\"521.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> from the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_9_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:41.56 - 08:42.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"521.56\" data-end-seconds=\"522\" data-confidence=\"1\"> INKOVEMA,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:42.00 - 08:42.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"522\" data-end-seconds=\"522.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:42.12 - 08:42.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"522.12\" data-end-seconds=\"522.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Institute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:42.50 - 08:42.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"522.5\" data-end-seconds=\"522.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:42.62 - 08:43.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"522.62\" data-end-seconds=\"523.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Conflict<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:43.04 - 08:43.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"523.04\" data-end-seconds=\"523.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:43.12 - 08:44.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"523.12\" data-end-seconds=\"524.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Negotiation management<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:44.20 - 08:44.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"524.2\" data-end-seconds=\"524.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:44.38 - 08:44.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"524.38\" data-end-seconds=\"524.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Leipzig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:44.76 - 08:44.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"524.76\" data-end-seconds=\"524.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:44.92 - 08:45.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"524.92\" data-end-seconds=\"525.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Partner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:45.24 - 08:45.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"525.24\" data-end-seconds=\"525.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:45.44 - 08:46.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"525.44\" data-end-seconds=\"526.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> professional<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:46.26 - 08:47.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"526.26\" data-end-seconds=\"527.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:47.24 - 08:47.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"527.24\" data-end-seconds=\"527.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_11_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"08:47.48 - 08:48.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"527.48\" data-end-seconds=\"528.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Coaching training programmes.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<footer id=\"sticky-footer\" class=\"fixed bottom-0 left-0 right-0 z-50\">\n<div class=\"bg-white flex flex-col w-full justify-center print:hidden\">\n<div class=\"flex flex-row gap-4 px-4 py-3 lg:py-4 text-gray-900\">\n<div class=\"hidden lg:flex self-center min-w-fit\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/footer>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":16421,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[183,1315,895,646,96,42],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16420","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-audio","category-betriebsrat-2","category-freiwilligkeit","category-inkovema-podcast-episoden-der-mediation","category-mediation-in-und-fuer-organisationen","category-podcast"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.2 (Yoast SEO v26.5) - 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