{"id":15957,"date":"2025-05-02T22:34:42","date_gmt":"2025-05-02T20:34:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/?p=15957"},"modified":"2025-05-02T22:50:52","modified_gmt":"2025-05-02T20:50:52","slug":"27-edm-sogwirkung-rechts-conflict-management-services-mediation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/27-edm-sogwirkung-rechts-conflict-management-services-mediation\/","title":{"rendered":"#27 EdM &#8211; The pull of law in conflict resolution. The benefits of mediation"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container gradient-container-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#27 EdM<\/h1>\n<h1><b>The pull of the law in conflict management.<\/b><\/h1>\n<h1>Mediation services<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>Episodes of mediation.<\/h4>\n<h4>The podcast on practical questions about mediation and conflict management.<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><p class=\"p1\"><em><b>Welcome to the episodes of mediation, <\/b><\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><em>the INKOVEMA podcast on the practical issues of mediation and conflict management.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><em>I am Sascha Weigel and in this podcast I explain case questions from my mediation and conflict counselling practice. I present concepts and models of mediation and categorise different perspectives and decision-making options.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema-episoden-der-mediation.podigee.io\/27-27-edm-sogwirkung-des-rechts-bei-der-konfliktbearbeitung\/embed?context=external\"><\/script>\n\n\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"text-align:center;\"><a class=\"fusion-button button-flat fusion-button-default-size button-default fusion-button-default button-1 fusion-button-default-span fusion-button-default-type\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/lms.inkovema.de\/elemente-der-mediation\/mediation\/recht-und-gesetz\/\"><span class=\"fusion-button-icon-divider button-icon-divider-left\"><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas awb-button__icon awb-button__icon--default\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-button-text awb-button__text awb-button__text--default fusion-button-text-left\">Element No. 05 &#8211; Law and order<\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"text-align:center;\"><a class=\"fusion-button button-flat fusion-button-default-size button-default fusion-button-default button-2 fusion-button-default-span fusion-button-default-type\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/from-social-conflict-to-legal-problem-and-back-again\/\"><span class=\"fusion-button-icon-divider button-icon-divider-left\"><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas awb-button__icon awb-button__icon--default\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-button-text awb-button__text awb-button__text--default fusion-button-text-left\">Blog post: From social conflict to legal problem &#8211; and back.<\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><h1 class=\"font-bold pb-4\"><strong>Chapter<\/strong><\/h1>\n<div data-testid=\"chapter-table-of-contents\">\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">0:14 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Welcome to the podcast about mediation<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">0:34 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>The pull of the law<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">2:14 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Everyday conflicts and their challenges<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">4:08 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>The influence of legal argumentation<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">7:12 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>The importance of decision-making<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">9:40 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Complexity of conflict decisions<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">11:45 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Mediation and its relevance<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">12:22 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Conclusion and outlook<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<h1><strong>Summary<\/strong><\/h1>\n<p>In this episode of the Mediation Podcast, I discuss the <strong>The pull of law in conflict management<\/strong>. I present illustrative examples from my mediation practice which show that <strong>how and why legal issues are often at the centre of conflicts<\/strong>. It becomes clear that many mediators may view the law as a disruptive factor and try to exclude it from the mediation process, but this is not expedient. I shed light on why the law has this focal effect in conflict resolution and what helps to gain an appropriate understanding of the law.<\/p>\n<h1><\/h1>\n<h1><strong>Contents<\/strong><\/h1>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_0\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"8.17\" data-end-seconds=\"11.99\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:08]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Welcome to the episodes of Mediation, the INKOVEMA podcast<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5585974\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[0:14]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Welcome to the podcast about mediation<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_1\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"11.99\" data-end-seconds=\"28.27\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:11]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">on the practical issues of mediation and conflict management. I am Sascha Weige. and in this podcast I explain case questions from my mediation and conflict counselling practice. I present concepts and models of mediation and categorise different perspectives and decision-making options.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5585975\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[0:34]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>The pull of the law<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_2\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"28.85\" data-end-seconds=\"44.11\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:28]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">This is episode 27, the pull of the law in conflict resolution. Today I am focussing on the pull of the law and legal arguments that I am regularly confronted with in mediation.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_3\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"44.43\" data-end-seconds=\"89.57\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:44]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Firstly, two or three very general examples. There are the parents who want to separate and are arguing about who has to make which payments on the basis of court judgements they have read. There are the former co-operation partners of a software project that has failed and these people are having a major discussion with their lawyers about legal assessments and consequences, who still has to pay what and who does not. There are the employees and former employees of a renowned research institute who have been arguing with the management for years.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_4\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"89.85\" data-end-seconds=\"130.57\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[1:29]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Who is legally culpable here and who is generally guilty of what. And then there is the works council of a severely ailing industrial company, which apparently hardly cares about economic issues, but takes the economic imbalance as an opportunity to talk about the illegalities and monstrosities of the management and executives and accuses them of negligence. I could not only continue this sequence indefinitely, but also further specify the individual cases and still certainly within the realm of experience.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5585976\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[2:14]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Everyday conflicts and their challenges<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_5\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"130.57\" data-end-seconds=\"134.65\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[2:10]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">of many listeners.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_6\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"135.01\" data-end-seconds=\"138.03\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[2:15]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Because that is everyday business.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_7\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"139.22\" data-end-seconds=\"208.94\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[2:19]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">It is clear that the law is a very important line of communication and conflict, opening up a space for argumentation that is important on both sides and on all sides when dealing with differences and potential conflicts. Conflicts are dealt with legally and this is easy to explain, because whoever is right and puts others in the wrong can derive claims and we learnt this early on. This is so intuitively correct that even mediators can think of nothing better than to banish the law itself and lawyers as such from the mediation process. They simply see the law and legal representatives as a nuisance and believe that the law should simply be kept out of mediation and thus out of conflict resolution because it comes across like a bull in a china shop. Knowing full well that mediation is not a legal vacuum and that the law should not simply give way to mediation and mediation discussions.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_8\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"209.96\" data-end-seconds=\"248.58\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[3:29]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">I would like to explain here today why this is not at all necessary and b. Secondly, what the correct understanding of law and mediation looks like. And if you, dear listeners, have now sensed a slight contradiction because I have said that I would like to explain what the correct understanding of law and mediation looks like and you had the impression, I maintain, that you do not have the correct understanding so far, then you have got a first impression of what I meant, that law and legal argumentation have a pull effect that you can hardly escape.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5585977\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[4:08]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>The influence of legal argumentation<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_9\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"249.2\" data-end-seconds=\"324.4\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[4:09]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">It is this contradiction, which drives us inwardly and makes legal argumentation seem divisive, that has an escalating effect. Even if I have only declared my intention to say something right. How does that happen? Not only in conflict, but especially there, it's about making smart decisions. Namely the right one. And in a conflict, it's best for the conflict parties to work together. But what is the right decision? And now the law comes into play. Because you don't have to study law to argue legally. And in law school, students learn very quickly that they have to use their sense of justice and then professionalise it. But legal reasoning itself is something we all learn from an early age. We think in terms of right and wrong, lawful and unlawful at an early age, even if we don't care about the standard and are far from being concerned with state laws. But the binary code of the communicative legal system, right, wrong, as Niklas Luhmann described it.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_10\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"326.31\" data-end-seconds=\"404.85\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[5:26]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">It is by no means limited to the institutions of justice, but is already doing its mischief, or to put it mildly, its business in the nursery. But one thing at a time. The question of what is right and what is right draws a line on the white sheet of possibilities. On one side of the line is the right or the one who is right, and on the other side of the line you suddenly find yourself in the wrong. Right cannot be created without also declaring wrong. And who wants to remain in the wrong? Right, nobody. And anyone who is in the wrong will argue legally that they are still on the side of the right. And if they only want to claim that they are also on the side of the law, they are also claiming who is wrong. If you look at this line of law, the law comes across like a guideline, like a guiding rope that not only points to the future, but also clearly distributes who is right and who is wrong. And the person who is right can derive claims against the person who is wrong.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_11\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"406.37\" data-end-seconds=\"431.61\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[6:46]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">And that's why the innocent question posed in conflict management or mediation as to whether we can simply put the law to one side or leave it alone or talk about other important things is very objectionable and gives rise to the accusation that we want to negotiate about the law, which itself is not negotiable.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5585978\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[7:12]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>The importance of decision-making<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_12\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"433.15\" data-end-seconds=\"450.33\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[7:13]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">The answer to this question - can't we just leave the law to one side for a moment here in mediation - has only one correct answer. No, we can't do that. The law cannot be suspended in mediation, nor does it need to be. But the following should be noted.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_13\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"451.91\" data-end-seconds=\"503.09\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[7:31]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Conflicts are not only decided in favour of the law or for the sake of the law, but because the parties to the conflict have to make a decision and have to make it according to their own criteria. And the law is an important category in this decision-making process, because the decision must be lawful. But those who are too close to the law only recognise the law as a guiding principle, as a guideline for the decision that also takes injustice into account. Only from a distance do we recognise that the law opens up a playing field, a framework within which the parties to the conflict can move freely as free citizens in a free society. But where to move to, that is the question.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_14\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"504.53\" data-end-seconds=\"544.45\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[8:24]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">They can and must move within this framework. But anyone who looks too closely at the edges of the line of law only recognises right and wrong, not the framework, the playing field of law. And I mentioned that the parties to the conflict also have other criteria. The conflict resolution must be affordable. Unaffordable solutions are not solutions. The decision must also be ethically and morally justifiable.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_15\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"546.96\" data-end-seconds=\"576.42\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:06]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Are they not justifiable? Are they not made? The question of what is aesthetically beautiful or ugly is also a decision to be made. Similarly, the question of what is true and what is untrue is a scientific criterion, even if it has nothing to do with universities or research institutions. The decision must also be feasible and within the scope of feasibility of those involved.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5585979\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[9:40]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Complexity of conflict decisions<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_16\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"576.96\" data-end-seconds=\"597.7\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:36]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">This is a political decision and has nothing to do with parties. The sociologist Niklas Luhmann described these criteria in his functional subsystems and outlined the respective binary coding, lawful, unlawful, affordable, unaffordable, feasible, unfeasible.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_17\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"599.28\" data-end-seconds=\"641.74\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:59]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">They form the guidelines for the conflict parties' decision and, like different frames superimposed on each other, it is possible to recognise how complex a conflict decision by the parties is. This is because it is necessary to find out whether there is a framework that is achievable for everyone and does not come across as unlawful or unaffordable, as unfeasible or morally unjustifiable or as aesthetically unacceptable or morally unacceptable according to any of these criteria.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_18\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"642.78\" data-end-seconds=\"697.42\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"10:42.78\">[10:42]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:42.78 - 10:43.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"642.78\" data-end-seconds=\"643.64\" data-confidence=\"1\">The<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:43.64 - 10:44.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"643.64\" data-end-seconds=\"644.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> describes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:44.16 - 10:44.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"644.16\" data-end-seconds=\"644.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:44.34 - 10:44.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"644.34\" data-end-seconds=\"644.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:44.52 - 10:45.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"644.52\" data-end-seconds=\"645.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Performance capability<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:45.94 - 10:46.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"645.94\" data-end-seconds=\"646.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:46.18 - 10:46.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"646.18\" data-end-seconds=\"646.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:46.34 - 10:47.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"646.34\" data-end-seconds=\"647.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Performance<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:47.06 - 10:47.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"647.06\" data-end-seconds=\"647.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:47.26 - 10:47.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"647.26\" data-end-seconds=\"647.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:47.38 - 10:47.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"647.38\" data-end-seconds=\"647.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:47.92 - 10:48.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"647.92\" data-end-seconds=\"648.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> from<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:48.38 - 10:49.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"648.38\" data-end-seconds=\"649.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediators.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:49.96 - 10:50.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"649.96\" data-end-seconds=\"650.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> You<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:50.22 - 10:51.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"650.22\" data-end-seconds=\"651.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> fold<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:51.04 - 10:51.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"651.04\" data-end-seconds=\"651.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> these<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:51.42 - 10:52.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"651.42\" data-end-seconds=\"652.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Complexity<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:52.36 - 10:52.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"652.36\" data-end-seconds=\"652.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> again<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:52.66 - 10:53.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"652.66\" data-end-seconds=\"653.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> on.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:53.52 - 10:54.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"653.52\" data-end-seconds=\"654.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> You<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:54.08 - 10:54.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"654.08\" data-end-seconds=\"654.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> leave<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:54.38 - 10:54.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"654.38\" data-end-seconds=\"654.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:54.68 - 10:54.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"654.68\" data-end-seconds=\"654.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:55.08 - 10:55.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"655.08\" data-end-seconds=\"655.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:55.22 - 10:55.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"655.22\" data-end-seconds=\"655.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:55.38 - 10:56.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"655.38\" data-end-seconds=\"656.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Parties to the conflict<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:56.46 - 10:56.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"656.46\" data-end-seconds=\"656.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:56.74 - 10:57.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"656.74\" data-end-seconds=\"657.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> early<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:57.18 - 10:57.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"657.18\" data-end-seconds=\"657.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:57.62 - 10:57.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"657.62\" data-end-seconds=\"657.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> only<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:57.80 - 10:58.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"657.8\" data-end-seconds=\"658.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:58.18 - 10:58.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"658.18\" data-end-seconds=\"658.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> binary<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:58.74 - 10:59.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"658.74\" data-end-seconds=\"659.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Coding<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"10:59.70 - 11:00.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"659.7\" data-end-seconds=\"660.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> decide<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:00.44 - 11:01.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"660.44\" data-end-seconds=\"661.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:01.12 - 11:01.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"661.12\" data-end-seconds=\"661.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> itself<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:01.34 - 11:01.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"661.34\" data-end-seconds=\"661.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:01.76 - 11:02.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"661.76\" data-end-seconds=\"662.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to a certain extent<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:02.68 - 11:02.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"662.68\" data-end-seconds=\"662.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:02.84 - 11:04.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"662.84\" data-end-seconds=\"664.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Conflict decision<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:04.86 - 11:05.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"664.86\" data-end-seconds=\"665.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> light<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:05.64 - 11:06.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"665.64\" data-end-seconds=\"666.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> make.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:06.02 - 11:07.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"666.02\" data-end-seconds=\"667.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> The<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:07.22 - 11:07.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"667.22\" data-end-seconds=\"667.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:07.40 - 11:07.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"667.4\" data-end-seconds=\"667.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:07.56 - 11:08.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"667.56\" data-end-seconds=\"668.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Performance<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:08.04 - 11:08.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"668.04\" data-end-seconds=\"668.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:08.20 - 11:08.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"668.2\" data-end-seconds=\"668.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:08.78 - 11:09.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"668.78\" data-end-seconds=\"669.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:09.54 - 11:10.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"669.54\" data-end-seconds=\"670.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sometimes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:10.20 - 11:10.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"670.2\" data-end-seconds=\"670.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:10.52 - 11:11.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"670.52\" data-end-seconds=\"671.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Imposition<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:11.24 - 11:11.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"671.24\" data-end-seconds=\"671.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:11.42 - 11:11.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"671.42\" data-end-seconds=\"671.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:11.58 - 11:12.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"671.58\" data-end-seconds=\"672.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Parties.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:12.88 - 11:13.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"672.88\" data-end-seconds=\"673.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> On the other hand<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:13.72 - 11:13.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"673.72\" data-end-seconds=\"673.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:13.92 - 11:14.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"673.92\" data-end-seconds=\"674.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:14.04 - 11:14.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"674.04\" data-end-seconds=\"674.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:14.56 - 11:15.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"674.56\" data-end-seconds=\"675.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> therefore<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:15.10 - 11:15.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"675.1\" data-end-seconds=\"675.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:15.52 - 11:15.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"675.52\" data-end-seconds=\"675.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> only<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:15.92 - 11:16.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"675.92\" data-end-seconds=\"676.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:16.32 - 11:16.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"676.32\" data-end-seconds=\"676.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> a<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:16.74 - 11:17.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"676.74\" data-end-seconds=\"677.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Conflict<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:17.42 - 11:17.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"677.42\" data-end-seconds=\"677.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:17.62 - 11:17.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"677.62\" data-end-seconds=\"677.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_5_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:17.80 - 11:18.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"677.8\" data-end-seconds=\"678.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Parties to the conflict<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:18.88 - 11:19.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"678.88\" data-end-seconds=\"679.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> a<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:19.70 - 11:21.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"679.7\" data-end-seconds=\"681.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> relevant<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:21.20 - 11:23.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"681.2\" data-end-seconds=\"683.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Conflict management instrument,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:23.48 - 11:23.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"683.48\" data-end-seconds=\"683.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> when<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:23.90 - 11:24.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"683.9\" data-end-seconds=\"684.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> it<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:24.04 - 11:24.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"684.04\" data-end-seconds=\"684.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> at<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:24.24 - 11:24.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"684.24\" data-end-seconds=\"684.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:24.50 - 11:25.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"684.5\" data-end-seconds=\"685.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Coping<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:25.30 - 11:25.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"685.3\" data-end-seconds=\"685.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> this<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:25.64 - 11:26.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"685.64\" data-end-seconds=\"686.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Complexity<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:26.58 - 11:27.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"686.58\" data-end-seconds=\"687.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:27.02 - 11:27.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"687.02\" data-end-seconds=\"687.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> goes.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:27.68 - 11:28.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"687.68\" data-end-seconds=\"688.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> And<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:28.62 - 11:28.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"688.62\" data-end-seconds=\"688.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> there<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:28.80 - 11:29.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"688.8\" data-end-seconds=\"689.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> must<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:29.12 - 11:29.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"689.12\" data-end-seconds=\"689.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> it<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:29.28 - 11:29.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"689.28\" data-end-seconds=\"689.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:29.44 - 11:29.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"689.44\" data-end-seconds=\"689.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:29.60 - 11:30.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"689.6\" data-end-seconds=\"690.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Conflict<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:30.04 - 11:30.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"690.04\" data-end-seconds=\"690.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:30.16 - 11:30.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"690.16\" data-end-seconds=\"690.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:30.28 - 11:30.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"690.28\" data-end-seconds=\"690.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Parties<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:30.68 - 11:30.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"690.68\" data-end-seconds=\"690.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> at<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:30.94 - 11:31.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"690.94\" data-end-seconds=\"691.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> some<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_7_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:31.56 - 11:31.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"691.56\" data-end-seconds=\"691.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> go,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:32.26 - 11:32.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"692.26\" data-end-seconds=\"692.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:32.44 - 11:32.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"692.44\" data-end-seconds=\"692.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> them<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:32.58 - 11:32.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"692.58\" data-end-seconds=\"692.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> itself<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:32.82 - 11:33.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"692.82\" data-end-seconds=\"693.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> this<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:33.32 - 11:34.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"693.32\" data-end-seconds=\"694.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Complexity<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:34.24 - 11:35.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"694.24\" data-end-seconds=\"695.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aware<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:35.52 - 11:35.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"695.52\" data-end-seconds=\"695.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:35.84 - 11:36.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"695.84\" data-end-seconds=\"696.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> processing<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_18_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:36.76 - 11:37.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"696.76\" data-end-seconds=\"697.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> place.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_19\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"698.8\" data-end-seconds=\"705.14\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"11:38.80\">[11:38]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:38.80 - 11:39.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"698.8\" data-end-seconds=\"699.86\" data-confidence=\"1\">Parties to the conflict<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:39.86 - 11:40.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"699.86\" data-end-seconds=\"700.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> are<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:40.08 - 11:40.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"700.08\" data-end-seconds=\"700.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> like<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:40.24 - 11:40.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"700.24\" data-end-seconds=\"700.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> all<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:40.48 - 11:40.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"700.48\" data-end-seconds=\"700.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> other<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:40.84 - 11:41.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"700.84\" data-end-seconds=\"701.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:41.26 - 11:41.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"701.26\" data-end-seconds=\"701.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> endeavours,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:42.22 - 11:42.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"702.22\" data-end-seconds=\"702.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:42.62 - 11:43.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"702.62\" data-end-seconds=\"703.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> little<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:43.16 - 11:43.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"703.16\" data-end-seconds=\"703.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> like<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:43.34 - 11:43.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"703.34\" data-end-seconds=\"703.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> possible<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:43.76 - 11:44.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"703.76\" data-end-seconds=\"704.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Expenditure<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:44.34 - 11:44.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"704.34\" data-end-seconds=\"704.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_19_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:44.52 - 11:45.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"704.52\" data-end-seconds=\"705.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> operate.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5585980\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[11:45]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Mediation and its relevance<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_20\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"706.14\" data-end-seconds=\"712.86\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"11:46.14\">[11:46]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_20_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:46.14 - 11:46.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"706.14\" data-end-seconds=\"706.66\" data-confidence=\"1\">Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:46.66 - 11:46.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"706.66\" data-end-seconds=\"706.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:46.98 - 11:47.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"706.98\" data-end-seconds=\"707.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:47.18 - 11:47.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"707.18\" data-end-seconds=\"707.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Procedure,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:47.84 - 11:47.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"707.84\" data-end-seconds=\"707.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:47.96 - 11:48.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"707.96\" data-end-seconds=\"708.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> these<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:48.26 - 11:49.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"708.26\" data-end-seconds=\"709.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Complexity<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:49.04 - 11:49.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"709.04\" data-end-seconds=\"709.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:49.52 - 11:50.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"709.52\" data-end-seconds=\"710.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Decision-making process<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:50.60 - 11:50.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"710.6\" data-end-seconds=\"710.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:50.76 - 11:51.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"710.76\" data-end-seconds=\"711.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_20_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:51.38 - 11:52.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"711.38\" data-end-seconds=\"712.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> revealed.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_21\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"714.02\" data-end-seconds=\"723.16\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"11:54.02\">[11:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:54.02 - 11:54.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"714.02\" data-end-seconds=\"714.86\" data-confidence=\"1\">Unfolded<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:54.86 - 11:55.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"714.86\" data-end-seconds=\"715.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:55.20 - 11:55.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"715.2\" data-end-seconds=\"715.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> stays,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:56.22 - 11:56.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"716.22\" data-end-seconds=\"716.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:56.70 - 11:56.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"716.7\" data-end-seconds=\"716.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:56.84 - 11:57.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"716.84\" data-end-seconds=\"717.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Parties<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:57.32 - 11:57.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"717.32\" data-end-seconds=\"717.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:57.58 - 11:58.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"717.58\" data-end-seconds=\"718.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> common<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:58.20 - 11:58.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"718.2\" data-end-seconds=\"718.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Decision<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:58.74 - 11:59.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"718.74\" data-end-seconds=\"719.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:59.04 - 11:59.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"719.04\" data-end-seconds=\"719.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"11:59.30 - 12:00.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"719.3\" data-end-seconds=\"720\" data-confidence=\"1\"> together<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:00.00 - 12:00.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"720\" data-end-seconds=\"720.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> clarified<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:00.70 - 12:01.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"720.7\" data-end-seconds=\"721.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frame<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:01.24 - 12:02.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"721.24\" data-end-seconds=\"722.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> meet<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_21_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:02.76 - 12:03.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"722.76\" data-end-seconds=\"723.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> can.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_22\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"724\" data-end-seconds=\"741.94\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"12:04.00\">[12:04]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:04.00 - 12:04.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"724\" data-end-seconds=\"724.76\" data-confidence=\"1\">Consequently<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:04.76 - 12:04.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"724.76\" data-end-seconds=\"724.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:04.96 - 12:05.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"724.96\" data-end-seconds=\"725.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:05.10 - 12:05.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"725.1\" data-end-seconds=\"725.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:05.60 - 12:06.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"725.6\" data-end-seconds=\"726.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:06.02 - 12:06.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"726.02\" data-end-seconds=\"726.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> relevant,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:06.90 - 12:07.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"726.9\" data-end-seconds=\"727.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> when<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:07.50 - 12:07.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"727.5\" data-end-seconds=\"727.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:07.66 - 12:08.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"727.66\" data-end-seconds=\"728.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Parties<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:08.16 - 12:08.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"728.16\" data-end-seconds=\"728.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> clarified<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:08.68 - 12:09.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"728.68\" data-end-seconds=\"729.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> have,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:09.34 - 12:09.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"729.34\" data-end-seconds=\"729.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> it<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:09.66 - 12:09.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"729.66\" data-end-seconds=\"729.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gives<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:09.92 - 12:10.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"729.92\" data-end-seconds=\"730.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> none<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:10.40 - 12:11.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"730.4\" data-end-seconds=\"731.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> common<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:11.06 - 12:11.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"731.06\" data-end-seconds=\"731.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> room for manoeuvre.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:12.16 - 12:12.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"732.16\" data-end-seconds=\"732.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:12.80 - 12:13.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"732.8\" data-end-seconds=\"733.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:13.04 - 12:13.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"733.04\" data-end-seconds=\"733.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> falls<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:13.36 - 12:14.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"733.36\" data-end-seconds=\"734.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediators<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:14.14 - 12:14.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"734.14\" data-end-seconds=\"734.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:14.66 - 12:15.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"734.66\" data-end-seconds=\"735.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> easy,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:15.56 - 12:16.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"735.56\" data-end-seconds=\"736.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> then<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:16.04 - 12:16.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"736.04\" data-end-seconds=\"736.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> their<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:16.66 - 12:17.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"736.66\" data-end-seconds=\"737.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:17.32 - 12:18.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"737.32\" data-end-seconds=\"738.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:18.14 - 12:18.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"738.14\" data-end-seconds=\"738.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> finish<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:18.60 - 12:19.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"738.6\" data-end-seconds=\"739.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:19.20 - 12:19.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"739.2\" data-end-seconds=\"739.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> their<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:19.40 - 12:20.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"739.4\" data-end-seconds=\"740.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation services<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_22_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:20.90 - 12:21.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"740.9\" data-end-seconds=\"741.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to be set.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5585981\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[12:22]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Conclusion and outlook<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_23\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"742.54\" data-end-seconds=\"800.52\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"12:22.54\">[12:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:22.54 - 12:23.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"742.54\" data-end-seconds=\"743.1\" data-confidence=\"1\">The<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:23.10 - 12:23.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"743.1\" data-end-seconds=\"743.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:23.42 - 12:23.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"743.42\" data-end-seconds=\"743.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> it<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:23.62 - 12:23.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"743.62\" data-end-seconds=\"743.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:23.82 - 12:24.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"743.82\" data-end-seconds=\"744.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> this<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:24.10 - 12:24.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"744.1\" data-end-seconds=\"744.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Paint<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:24.40 - 12:24.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"744.4\" data-end-seconds=\"744.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:24.58 - 12:24.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"744.58\" data-end-seconds=\"744.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:24.74 - 12:25.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"744.74\" data-end-seconds=\"745.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hope,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:25.28 - 12:25.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"745.28\" data-end-seconds=\"745.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> it<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:25.76 - 12:25.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"745.76\" data-end-seconds=\"745.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> is<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:25.92 - 12:26.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"745.92\" data-end-seconds=\"746.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:26.08 - 12:26.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"746.08\" data-end-seconds=\"746.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> you<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:26.34 - 12:26.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"746.34\" data-end-seconds=\"746.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:26.92 - 12:27.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"746.92\" data-end-seconds=\"747.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> more<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_0_15\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:27.12 - 12:27.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"747.12\" data-end-seconds=\"747.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> necessary,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:27.66 - 12:27.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"747.66\" data-end-seconds=\"747.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:27.70 - 12:28.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"747.7\" data-end-seconds=\"748.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> The future<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:28.24 - 12:28.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"748.24\" data-end-seconds=\"748.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:28.90 - 12:29.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"748.9\" data-end-seconds=\"749.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ask,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:29.64 - 12:30.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"749.64\" data-end-seconds=\"750.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> whether<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:30.12 - 12:30.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"750.12\" data-end-seconds=\"750.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:30.26 - 12:30.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"750.26\" data-end-seconds=\"750.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:30.48 - 12:30.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"750.48\" data-end-seconds=\"750.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> times<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:30.68 - 12:31.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"750.68\" data-end-seconds=\"751.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> simple<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:31.14 - 12:31.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"751.14\" data-end-seconds=\"751.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:31.46 - 12:31.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"751.46\" data-end-seconds=\"751.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Law<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:31.70 - 12:31.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"751.7\" data-end-seconds=\"751.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> short<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:31.98 - 12:32.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"751.98\" data-end-seconds=\"752.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aside<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:32.62 - 12:33.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"752.62\" data-end-seconds=\"753.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> push<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_1_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:33.30 - 12:33.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"753.3\" data-end-seconds=\"753.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> can.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:34.28 - 12:34.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"754.28\" data-end-seconds=\"754.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Many<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:34.84 - 12:35.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"754.84\" data-end-seconds=\"755.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thanks to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:35.10 - 12:35.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"755.1\" data-end-seconds=\"755.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:35.42 - 12:36.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"755.42\" data-end-seconds=\"756.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Listen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:36.02 - 12:36.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"756.02\" data-end-seconds=\"756.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:36.80 - 12:37.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"756.8\" data-end-seconds=\"757.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> perhaps<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:37.08 - 12:37.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"757.08\" data-end-seconds=\"757.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> could<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:37.46 - 12:37.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"757.46\" data-end-seconds=\"757.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> you<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:37.56 - 12:37.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"757.56\" data-end-seconds=\"757.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> about it<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:37.80 - 12:38.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"757.8\" data-end-seconds=\"758.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> beyond<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:38.16 - 12:38.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"758.16\" data-end-seconds=\"758.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:38.36 - 12:38.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"758.36\" data-end-seconds=\"758.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> a<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:38.56 - 12:38.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"758.56\" data-end-seconds=\"758.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> or<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:38.68 - 12:39.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"758.68\" data-end-seconds=\"759\" data-confidence=\"1\"> other<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:39.00 - 12:39.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"759\" data-end-seconds=\"759.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Idea<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:39.24 - 12:39.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"759.24\" data-end-seconds=\"759.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:39.50 - 12:39.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"759.5\" data-end-seconds=\"759.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:39.72 - 12:40.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"759.72\" data-end-seconds=\"760.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> yours<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:40.08 - 12:40.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"760.08\" data-end-seconds=\"760.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> concrete<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:40.62 - 12:41.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"760.62\" data-end-seconds=\"761.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Cases<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:41.18 - 12:41.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"761.18\" data-end-seconds=\"761.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> develop,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:42.14 - 12:42.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"762.14\" data-end-seconds=\"762.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> more<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:42.42 - 12:43.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"762.42\" data-end-seconds=\"763.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> spin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:43.06 - 12:43.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"763.06\" data-end-seconds=\"763.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:43.62 - 12:43.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"763.62\" data-end-seconds=\"763.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:43.80 - 12:44.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"763.8\" data-end-seconds=\"764.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:44.02 - 12:44.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"764.02\" data-end-seconds=\"764.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Decision<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:44.76 - 12:45.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"764.76\" data-end-seconds=\"765.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> lead.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:45.70 - 12:46.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"765.7\" data-end-seconds=\"766.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> In favour<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:46.26 - 12:46.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"766.26\" data-end-seconds=\"766.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wish<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:46.54 - 12:46.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"766.54\" data-end-seconds=\"766.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:46.62 - 12:46.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"766.62\" data-end-seconds=\"766.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> you<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:46.74 - 12:46.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"766.74\" data-end-seconds=\"766.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> on<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:46.90 - 12:47.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"766.9\" data-end-seconds=\"767.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> each<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:47.06 - 12:47.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"767.06\" data-end-seconds=\"767.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Case<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:47.28 - 12:47.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"767.28\" data-end-seconds=\"767.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> good<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:47.68 - 12:48.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"767.68\" data-end-seconds=\"768.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Success.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:48.50 - 12:49.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"768.5\" data-end-seconds=\"769.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> When<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:49.06 - 12:49.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"769.06\" data-end-seconds=\"769.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> you<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:49.14 - 12:49.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"769.14\" data-end-seconds=\"769.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> this<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:49.34 - 12:50.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"769.34\" data-end-seconds=\"770.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:50.02 - 12:50.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"770.02\" data-end-seconds=\"770.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:50.26 - 12:50.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"770.26\" data-end-seconds=\"770.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> me<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:50.42 - 12:50.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"770.42\" data-end-seconds=\"770.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> support<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:50.88 - 12:51.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"770.88\" data-end-seconds=\"771.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> would like,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:51.52 - 12:51.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"771.52\" data-end-seconds=\"771.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> then<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:51.70 - 12:52.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"771.7\" data-end-seconds=\"772.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> leaves<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:52.12 - 12:52.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"772.12\" data-end-seconds=\"772.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:52.22 - 12:52.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"772.22\" data-end-seconds=\"772.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> a<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:52.36 - 12:52.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"772.36\" data-end-seconds=\"772.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Feedback<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:52.80 - 12:53.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"772.8\" data-end-seconds=\"773\" data-confidence=\"1\"> on<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:53.00 - 12:53.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"773\" data-end-seconds=\"773.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Apple<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:53.26 - 12:53.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"773.26\" data-end-seconds=\"773.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:53.64 - 12:54.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"773.64\" data-end-seconds=\"774.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> or<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:54.10 - 12:54.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"774.1\" data-end-seconds=\"774.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> on<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:54.32 - 12:54.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"774.32\" data-end-seconds=\"774.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Google<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:54.60 - 12:55.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"774.6\" data-end-seconds=\"775.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Business.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:55.36 - 12:55.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"775.36\" data-end-seconds=\"775.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> About<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:55.88 - 12:56.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"775.88\" data-end-seconds=\"776.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><strong><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:56.06 - 12:57.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"776.06\" data-end-seconds=\"777.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Star rating<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:57.04 - 12:57.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"777.04\" data-end-seconds=\"777.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:57.44 - 12:57.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"777.44\" data-end-seconds=\"777.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> one<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:57.74 - 12:58.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"777.74\" data-end-seconds=\"778.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Comment<\/span><\/strong><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:58.40 - 12:59.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"778.4\" data-end-seconds=\"779.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> happy<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:59.02 - 12:59.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"779.02\" data-end-seconds=\"779.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:59.28 - 12:59.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"779.28\" data-end-seconds=\"779.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> me<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:59.56 - 12:59.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"779.56\" data-end-seconds=\"779.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:59.76 - 12:59.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"779.76\" data-end-seconds=\"779.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"12:59.96 - 13:00.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"779.96\" data-end-seconds=\"780.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> would<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_8_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:00.16 - 13:00.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"780.16\" data-end-seconds=\"780.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> help,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:00.56 - 13:00.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"780.56\" data-end-seconds=\"780.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> that<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:00.76 - 13:01.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"780.76\" data-end-seconds=\"781.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> other<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:01.12 - 13:01.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"781.12\" data-end-seconds=\"781.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> this<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:01.44 - 13:02.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"781.44\" data-end-seconds=\"782.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:02.18 - 13:02.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"782.18\" data-end-seconds=\"782.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Find<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:02.62 - 13:02.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"782.62\" data-end-seconds=\"782.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> can,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:03.10 - 13:03.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"783.1\" data-end-seconds=\"783.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:03.18 - 13:03.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"783.18\" data-end-seconds=\"783.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> him<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:03.34 - 13:03.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"783.34\" data-end-seconds=\"783.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so far<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:03.62 - 13:03.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"783.62\" data-end-seconds=\"783.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> still<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:03.82 - 13:04.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"783.82\" data-end-seconds=\"784.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> not<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:04.02 - 13:04.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"784.02\" data-end-seconds=\"784.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> found<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_9_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:04.50 - 13:05.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"784.5\" data-end-seconds=\"785.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> have.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:05.36 - 13:05.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"785.36\" data-end-seconds=\"785.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> With<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:05.62 - 13:05.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"785.62\" data-end-seconds=\"785.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> best<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:05.98 - 13:06.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"785.98\" data-end-seconds=\"786.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wishes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:06.42 - 13:07.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"786.42\" data-end-seconds=\"787.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> say goodbye<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:07.02 - 13:07.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"787.02\" data-end-seconds=\"787.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:07.14 - 13:07.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"787.14\" data-end-seconds=\"787.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> me<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:07.30 - 13:07.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"787.3\" data-end-seconds=\"787.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:07.44 - 13:07.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"787.44\" data-end-seconds=\"787.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:07.56 - 13:07.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"787.56\" data-end-seconds=\"787.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Just a moment.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:08.06 - 13:08.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"788.06\" data-end-seconds=\"788.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Until<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:08.62 - 13:08.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"788.62\" data-end-seconds=\"788.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> to the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:08.80 - 13:08.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"788.8\" data-end-seconds=\"788.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> next<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_10_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:08.96 - 13:09.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"788.96\" data-end-seconds=\"789.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Times.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:09.66 - 13:09.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"789.66\" data-end-seconds=\"789.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Come<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:09.76 - 13:09.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"789.76\" data-end-seconds=\"789.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> good<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:09.94 - 13:10.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"789.94\" data-end-seconds=\"790.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> through<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:10.12 - 13:10.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"790.12\" data-end-seconds=\"790.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:10.26 - 13:10.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"790.26\" data-end-seconds=\"790.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Time.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:10.72 - 13:11.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"790.72\" data-end-seconds=\"791.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> I<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:11.26 - 13:11.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"791.26\" data-end-seconds=\"791.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> am<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:11.42 - 13:11.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"791.42\" data-end-seconds=\"791.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sascha<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:11.70 - 13:12.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"791.7\" data-end-seconds=\"792.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Weigel,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:12.52 - 13:12.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"792.52\" data-end-seconds=\"792.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Founder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:12.82 - 13:13.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"792.82\" data-end-seconds=\"793\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:13.00 - 13:13.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"793\" data-end-seconds=\"793.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Owner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:13.46 - 13:13.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"793.46\" data-end-seconds=\"793.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> from INKOVEMA<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_11_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:13.66 - 13:14.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"793.66\" data-end-seconds=\"794.16\" data-confidence=\"1\">,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:14.24 - 13:14.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"794.24\" data-end-seconds=\"794.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> the<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:14.30 - 13:14.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"794.3\" data-end-seconds=\"794.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Institute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:14.68 - 13:14.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"794.68\" data-end-seconds=\"794.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:14.82 - 13:15.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"794.82\" data-end-seconds=\"795.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Conflict<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:15.24 - 13:15.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"795.24\" data-end-seconds=\"795.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:15.32 - 13:16.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"795.32\" data-end-seconds=\"796.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Negotiation management<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:16.12 - 13:16.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"796.12\" data-end-seconds=\"796.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:16.30 - 13:16.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"796.3\" data-end-seconds=\"796.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Leipzig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:16.66 - 13:16.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"796.66\" data-end-seconds=\"796.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_12_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:16.86 - 13:17.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"796.86\" data-end-seconds=\"797.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Partner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_13_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:17.26 - 13:17.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"797.26\" data-end-seconds=\"797.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> for<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_13_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:17.46 - 13:18.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"797.46\" data-end-seconds=\"798.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> professional<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_13_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:18.04 - 13:18.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"798.04\" data-end-seconds=\"798.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_13_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:18.62 - 13:18.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"798.62\" data-end-seconds=\"798.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> and<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_13_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:18.90 - 13:19.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"798.9\" data-end-seconds=\"799.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Coaching training programmes<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_13_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:19.98 - 13:20.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"799.98\" data-end-seconds=\"800.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_23_13_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"13:20.40 - 13:20.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"800.4\" data-end-seconds=\"800.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Leipzig.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-1 content-boxes-icon-boxed content-left\" 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