{"id":15863,"date":"2025-03-29T08:36:14","date_gmt":"2025-03-29T07:36:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/?p=15863"},"modified":"2025-04-13T09:03:50","modified_gmt":"2025-04-13T07:03:50","slug":"215-gddz-mediation-in-belgium-johannes-seel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/215-gddz-mediation-in-belgium-johannes-seel\/","title":{"rendered":"#215 GddZ &#8211; Mediation in Belgium. In conversation with Johannes Seel"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling gradient-container-1\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>INKOVEMA-Podcast &#8222;Gut durch die Zeit&#8220;<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#215 GddZ<\/h1>\n<h1>Mediation in Belgien<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-3 fusion-sep-none fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h2>Eine vergleichende Standortbestimmung mit der Mediation in Deutschland<\/h2><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-4 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\" style=\"--awb-margin-top-small:0px;--awb-margin-right-small:0px;--awb-margin-bottom-small:20px;--awb-margin-left-small:0px;\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h3><strong>Im Gespr\u00e4ch mit Rechtsanwalt und Mediator Johannes Seel<\/strong><\/h3><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><p><strong>Johannes Seel<\/strong>, Rechtsanwalt und Mediator, Vorstandsmitglied der F\u00f6deralen Mediationskommission sowie Mitbegru\u0308nder der gemeinnu\u0308tzigen Initiative zur<br \/>\nVerbesserung des Zugangs zur Mediation Conflicool.<\/p>\n<p>Er ist deutschsprachiger Belgier, arbeitet als Mediator regelm\u00e4\u00dfig in mehrsprachigen und grenzu\u0308berschreitenden Konflikten. Als Rechtsanwalt vertritt er Deutschsprachige mit Rechtsinteressen in Belgien auf Deutsch, Franz\u00f6sisch, Englisch und Niederl\u00e4ndisch.<\/p>\n<p>Er hat sein Jurastudium an der juristischen Fakult\u00e4t in Namur (2010) und L\u00fcttich (2013) abgeschlossen. Ferner besitzt er einen postgradualen Abschluss im Immobilienmanagement der Katholischen Universit\u00e4t L\u00f6wen (2019). Er ist seit 2013 Mitglied der Eupener Anwaltskammer und hat 2019 eine Zweitkanzlei in Br\u00fcssel er\u00f6ffnet.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><p class=\"p1\"><strong>Gut durch die Zeit. <\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><strong>Der Podcast rund um Mediation, Konflikt-Coaching und Organisationsberatung.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema.podigee.io\/216-215-gddz-mediation-in-belgien-im-gesprach-mit-johannes-seel\/embed?context=external\"><\/script>\n\n\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-3\"><h1><strong>Inhalt<\/strong><\/h1>\n<h3><strong>Kapitel:<\/strong><\/h3>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">0:06 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Herzlich willkommen zum Podcast<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">1:29 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Einblick in die Mediation in Belgien<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">2:51 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Unterschiede zwischen Deutschland und Belgien<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">4:26 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Die Rolle des Mediators in Belgien<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">9:19 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Herausforderungen und Chancen der Mediation<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">11:14 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Mediation als Verfahren und ihre Flexibilit\u00e4t<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">16:54 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Vertraulichkeit und Freiwilligkeit in der Mediation<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">18:53 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Die f\u00f6derale Mediationskommission in Belgien<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">23:21 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Mediationslandschaft und Herausforderungen<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">26:19 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Blick auf den deutschen Mediationsmarkt<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">31:01 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Prozesskostenhilfe und Mediation in Belgien<\/div>\n<div class=\"\"><span class=\"pr-1 cursor-pointer opacity-70 hover:opacity-100\"><a class=\"tabular-nums\" tabindex=\"-1\">34:23 &#8211; <\/a><\/span>Abschlie\u00dfende Gedanken zur Mediation<\/div>\n<h3><strong>Inhaltliche Zusammenfassung<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>In dieser Episode von &#8222;Gut durch die Zeit&#8220; werfen wir einen umfassenden Blick auf die Mediation in Belgien. Mein <strong>Gespr\u00e4chspartner Johannes Seel,<\/strong> ein erfahrener Mediator und Mitglied der F\u00f6deralen Mediationskommission, teilt seine Einsichten \u00fcber die aktuelle Situation der Mediation im Land. Es gibt nur wenige Mediatoren in Belgien, die ausschlie\u00dflich Vollzeit in diesem Bereich arbeiten, weshalb die Thematik von gro\u00dfer Relevanz ist. Wir diskutieren die Unterschiede zwischen den <strong>Mediationspraktiken in Belgien und Deutschland<\/strong> sowie die <strong>rechtlichen Rahmenbedingungen, die das Mediationsfeld in Belgien<\/strong> pr\u00e4gen.<\/p>\n<p>Johannes beschreibt, wie die belgische Mediation durch eine <strong>zentralisierte Kommission<\/strong> geregelt wird, die sowohl unabh\u00e4ngig agiert als auch staatliche Unterst\u00fctzung erh\u00e4lt. Die Rahmenbedingungen beinhalten die Prinzipien der Vertraulichkeit und Freiwilligkeit. Ein entscheidender Unterschied zur deutschen Praxis ist die M\u00f6glichkeit f\u00fcr Mediatoren, Mediationseinigungen zu verschriftlichen und dem Gericht vorzulegen, was diesen Vereinbarungen rechtliche Vollstreckungskraft verleiht.<\/p>\n<p>Ein zentrales Thema unserer Diskussion ist auch die Wahrnehmung der Mediation durch die Betroffenen. Johannes erkl\u00e4rt, dass die M\u00f6glichkeit der Vollstreckbarkeit die Menschen anspricht und damit das Vertrauen in diesen L\u00f6sungsweg ma\u00dfgeblich beeinflusst. Beide Seiten eines Konflikts empfinden unterschiedliche Beweggr\u00fcnde zur Teilnahme; w\u00e4hrend die einladende Partei die konkrete Umsetzung der Mediationseinigung sch\u00e4tzt, dr\u00fcckt die konfrontierte Partei oft den Wunsch nach Freiwilligkeit aus. Wir beleuchten die Bedeutung von Schulungsma\u00dfnahmen und die Notwendigkeit, mediative Ans\u00e4tze in der breiten Bev\u00f6lkerung bekannter zu machen.<\/p>\n<p>Im Verlauf des Gespr\u00e4chs kommt auch die Rolle der F\u00f6deralen Mediationskommission zur Sprache, die eine wichtige Funktion in der Ausbildung und Zulassung von Mediatoren hat. Johannes gibt Einblicke in die Herausforderungen, denen sich Mediatoren gegen\u00fcbersehen, sowohl beim Zugang zu Auftr\u00e4gen als auch bei der Sensibilisierung der \u00d6ffentlichkeit f\u00fcr die Vorteile der Mediation. Es wird deutlich, dass trotz gesetzlicher Grundlagen noch viel Aufkl\u00e4rungsarbeit notwendig ist.<\/p>\n<p>Des Weiteren wird die Problematik er\u00f6rtert, dass viele Menschen nicht wissen, wann Mediation eine geeignete L\u00f6sung f\u00fcr ihre Konflikte sein k\u00f6nnte. Johannes spricht konkret von einem Missverst\u00e4ndnis bez\u00fcglich der Mediation, da viele B\u00fcrger sie nur f\u00fcr kleinere Streitigkeiten in Betracht ziehen, w\u00e4hrend sie bei komplexeren Angelegenheiten den Gang zum Gericht bevorzugen. Diese Fehleinsch\u00e4tzung ob der m\u00f6glichen Anwendbarkeit von Mediation macht deutlich, wie wichtig es ist, Mediationsangebote aktiv zu kommunizieren und zu erkl\u00e4ren.<\/p>\n<p>Am Ende der Episode diskutieren wir verschiedene Ans\u00e4tze zur Verbesserung der Situation, einschlie\u00dflich der Einf\u00fchrung eines System f\u00fcr Prozesskostenhilfe, welches auch einen Anreiz zur Nutzung von Mediation bieten k\u00f6nnte. Trotz der Herausforderungen zeigt Johannes auf, dass die Mediation in Belgien einen bedeutenden Platz hat und durch Initiativen wie die Arbeit der F\u00f6deralen Mediationskommission gef\u00f6rdert wird. Zudem wird auf die Chancen hingewiesen, dass die unterschiedlichen Professionen und Hintergr\u00fcnde der Mediatoren in der Kommission einen wertvollen Austausch erm\u00f6glichen.<\/p>\n<p>Diese Episode bietet spannende und aufschlussreiche Perspektiven auf die Mediation in Belgien und regt dazu an, \u00fcber die Entwicklung und die potenziellen Verbesserungen in diesem wichtigen Bereich nachzudenken.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-1 content-boxes-icon-boxed content-left\" 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href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-mediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"fusion-button-text\">Mehr Informationen hier...<\/span><\/a><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-content-boxes content-boxes columns row fusion-columns-1 fusion-columns-total-1 fusion-content-boxes-2 content-boxes-icon-boxed content-left\" 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Sie findet in, mit und f\u00fcr die Organisation statt \u2013 indem den relevanten Organisationsmitgliedern eine angemessene Bearbeitung der Konflikte erm\u00f6glicht wird.<\/p>\n<p>Wir bilden Sie daf\u00fcr aus oder professionalisieren Ihre mediatorische, konfliktberaterische Vorgehensweise. Wir starten unsere Fortbildungsreihe regelm\u00e4\u00dfig im M\u00e4rz eines Jahres.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><a class=\"fusion-read-more-button fusion-content-box-button fusion-button button-default fusion-button-default-size button- button-flat\" href=\"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/mediationsausbildung\/ausbildung-wirtschaftsmediation\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"fusion-button-text\">Mehr Informationen hier...<\/span><\/a><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-clearfix\"><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-4\"><h2 id=\"transcript-editor\" class=\"text-2xl pb-8 px-&#091;11px&#093; font-bold tracking-tight scroll-mt-20\"><strong>Vollst\u00e4ndige Transkription<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"w-full\">\n<div class=\"py-12 px-2\" data-testid=\"transcript-editor\">\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_0\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"0.02\" data-end-seconds=\"5\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:00]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">In Belgien gibt es tats\u00e4chlich kaum Mediatoren, die Vollzeit als Mediatoren<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349109\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[0:06]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Herzlich Willkommen zum Podcast<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_1\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"5\" data-end-seconds=\"49.32\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:05]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">im Rahmen dieser formalisierten Mediation arbeiten. Herzlich willkommen zum Podcast Gut durch die Zeit, der Podcast rund um Mediation, Konfliktcoaching und Organisationsberatung, ein Podcast von INKOVEMA. Ich bin Sascha Weigel und begr\u00fc\u00dfe dich zu einer neuen Folge. Und heute geht es um Mediation, eine Standortbestimmung von Mediation in Belgien, um die belgische Mediation, wie sie verortet ist, wie sie geregelt ist und wie sie praktiziert wird. Und daf\u00fcr habe ich mir einen Experten eingeladen, <strong>Johannes Seel<\/strong>, Belgier seines Zeichens, Mediator und Mitglied der F\u00f6deralen Mediationskommission und damit ganz nah am Puls der Zeit. Herzlich willkommen, Johannes.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_2\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"50.06\" data-end-seconds=\"85.98\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[0:50]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, vielen Dank, Sascha. Danke f\u00fcr die Einladung. Ich bin froh, hier zu sein. Ja, und ich bin froh, dass du dich bei mir gemeldet hast und gesagt hast, Sascha, wenn du mal was zu Mediation in Belgien machen willst und dar\u00fcber auch mal sozusagen nicht nur berichten willst, sondern auch erfahren willst, wie das ist. Denn wir haben einiges zu erz\u00e4hlen dar\u00fcber, dass du mir das geschrieben hast, weil ich habe mich dann mit dir kurz ausgetauscht, kurz nachgeguckt und gesagt, ja, das stimmt. Das ist ein ganz spannendes Arbeitsfeld, was ihr in Belgien habt. Und ich habe es noch nicht durchdrungen, das ist mir v\u00f6llig klar. Das soll sich in den n\u00e4chsten Minuten \u00e4ndern.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349110\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[1:29]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Einblick in die Mediation in Belgien<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_3\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"86.7\" data-end-seconds=\"171.44\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[1:26]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Bevor wir da hinkommen, vielleicht ein paar Worte zu dir. Liebte Frage nat\u00fcrlich, wie bist du zur Mediation gekommen? Aber auch, was macht dich \u00fcberhaupt aus als Mediator und ja auch, wie soll man sagen, Mediationsf\u00f6rderer? Denn du bist in den relevanten Organisationen, Gremien und Positionen da ganz ma\u00dfgebend mitzuarbeiten. Also ich bin deutschsprachiger Belgier. Deutsch ist hier die dritte offizielle Landessprache. Und das hat zur Folge, dass man nat\u00fcrlich immer in verschiedenen Kulturkreisen und Sprachen unterwegs ist. Das hei\u00dft, ich habe das Studium in der Wallonie gemacht, auf Franz\u00f6sisch studiert, auch auf Niederl\u00e4ndisch ein Zusatzjahr. Und im Laufe des Berufslebens als Anwalt, direkt eigentlich schon nach dem Studium, ist mir bewusst geworden, dass neben der Gerichtspiste auch andere Pisten vielversprechende Ergebnisse erzielen. Und ich schnell gemerkt habe, dass mich gewisse blockierte Situationen und die Unm\u00f6glichkeit, diese zufriedenstellend zu l\u00f6sen, frustriert haben. Und da bin ich dann hin zur Mediation gependelt, habe mich engagiert, bin dabei geblieben. Parallel arbeite ich immer noch als Anwalt, aber bin davon \u00fcberzeugt, dass die Mediation einen h\u00f6heren Stellenwert haben sollte f\u00fcr die Konflikte, f\u00fcr die sie sich anbietet. Im Ausgangsberuf bist du ein praktischer Jurist, was dich pr\u00e4destiniert, sozusagen auch an der Verrechtlichung und an der Regelung von Mediation mitzuwirken. Mir schien, dass.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349111\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[2:51]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Unterschiede zwischen Deutschland und Belgien<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_4\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"172.18\" data-end-seconds=\"227.72\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[2:52]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Die belgische Regelung von Mediation ausf\u00fchrlicher ist als die deutsche. Und vielleicht ist das ein Ausgangspunkt, wo wir einsteigen k\u00f6nnen, so ein bisschen zur, sagen wir mal, juristischen Verortung von Mediation. Was w\u00fcrdest du sagen, sind so die markanten Unterschiede, soweit du mit der deutschen Verrechtlichung im Mediationsgesetz so vertraut bist? Ein zentraler Unterschied ist mit Sicherheit, dass die Mediation und die Belange der Mediatoren in Belgien zentralisiert durch eine Kommission, die f\u00f6derale Mediationskommission, geregelt und verwaltet werden. Und diese Mediationskommission ist einerseits unabh\u00e4ngig, aber andererseits finanziert durch das Justizministerium. Das ist also wirklich der absolute Kernunterschied. Dar\u00fcber hinaus ist die Mediation genau wie in Deutschland gesetzlich verankert, die Prinzipien der Vertraulichkeit, der Freiwilligkeit.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_5\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"228.76\" data-end-seconds=\"262.86\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[3:48]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Was es auch hier als M\u00f6glichkeit gibt, ist, dass man als zugelassener Vermittler, also Mediator, der die Zulassung erhalten hat von dieser f\u00f6deralen Mediationskommission, wir werden wahrscheinlich sp\u00e4ter noch auf die Zulassungen eingehen, dass der auch die M\u00f6glichkeit hat, dann Mediationseinigungen zu verschriftlichen und danach auch dem Gericht vorzulegen zum Zwecke der Homologierung. Das bedeutet, dass die Mediationseinigungen mit zugelassenem Vermittler Urteilskraft bekommen k\u00f6nnen, ohne dass der Richter die M\u00f6glichkeit hat, sich gegen den Inhalt<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349112\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[4:26]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Die Rolle des Mediators in Belgien<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_6\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"262.86\" data-end-seconds=\"306.58\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[4:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">zu stellen, mit der einzigen Ausnahme des Respektes der \u00f6ffentlichen Ordnung. Das ist also ein ziemlich effizientes Vehikel, das also diese Zulassung dazu f\u00fchrt, sodass man den Expressweg vor Gericht nehmen kann und so einen sehr sch\u00f6nen Mehrwert f\u00fcr die Mediationsteilnehmer bieten kann, weil man dann das Komplexpaket hat von dem L\u00f6sungsfindungsweg, aber auch danach die Umsetzung. Ja, das hei\u00dft, urteils\u00e4hnliche Rechtskraft, es ist ein vollstreckbarer Titel dann in Belgien. Kann als Mediant, der einen Mediationsvertrag geschlossen hat, der h\u00e4ufig ja eine Konkretisierung, eine Erneuerung eines Vertrages war, der dann zu Streit f\u00fchrte.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_7\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"307.64\" data-end-seconds=\"380.31\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[5:07]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Den kann ich dann vollstrecken lassen. Ich muss nicht, in Anf\u00fchrungsstrichen, nochmal zur\u00fcck zur Mediation, wenn man wieder \u00fcber die Mediationsvereinbarung streitet. Wobei nat\u00fcrlich die Mediationsvereinbarung in der Regel auch wieder eine Mediationsklausel vorsieht, aber daneben selbstverst\u00e4ndlich w\u00fcrde der Mediator oder aber die Rechtsanw\u00e4lte, die die Medianen begleiten, den Vertrag so ausarbeiten, dass er im Zweifelsfalle vollstreckbar ist, dass der Inhalt des Vertrages es einem Gerichtsvollzieher auch erm\u00f6glicht, die entsprechenden Schritte zu ergreifen, dass diese Vereinbarung also detailliert genug ist, damit die Rechenkraft dann auch entfaltet werden kann. Wir haben das in Deutschland ja nicht. Wir k\u00f6nnen zwar Mediationsvereinbarungen vollstreckungsf\u00e4hig machen, vollstreckbar machen \u00fcber verschiedene Wege, aber eben nicht als Mediator als solcher. Das w\u00e4re ein bisschen mehr Aufwand und es ist durchaus immer eine Fragestellung, wenn nicht auch eine Debatte, ob das denn einen Unterschied machen w\u00fcrde in der Mediationsnutzung. Nutzung. Wie erlebst du das in Belgien? Ist diese Vollstreckbarmachung durch den Mediator, also der das einleiten kann, das macht dann letztlich ein Gericht, hat das eine Auswirkung auf die Frage, machen wir eine Mediation oder nicht?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_8\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"381.11\" data-end-seconds=\"417.53\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[6:21]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Definitiv ja. Es gibt eigentlich drei Szenarien klassisch. Entweder man wird durch beide Personen gleichzeitig kontaktiert, beispielsweise im Rahmen einer Trennungssituation oder aber es ist eine der beiden Personen, die proaktiv Kontakt mit dem Mediator aufbaut oder aber es ist beispielsweise ein Gericht, der den Kontakt dann herstellt. In der Praxis merken wir, dass vor allen Dingen die ersten Personen, also die, die die Mediation initiieren, dass die sehr dadurch angesprochen werden, dass diese Vollstreckbarkeitsmachungsm\u00f6glichkeit besteht, unabh\u00e4ngig davon, ob sie dann tats\u00e4chlich umgesetzt wird. Wir merken also, dass die Rechtssuchenden, dass die Medianten.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_9\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"418.12\" data-end-seconds=\"506.62\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[6:58]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">M\u00f6chten, dass es nicht nur bei dem einzigen guten Versprechen bleibt. In der Praxis wird diese Mediationseinigung selten homologiert, aber auf die Frage antworten, ob das am Anfang ein Verkaufsargument f\u00fcr diesen L\u00f6sungsweg ist, ja. Also alle erst kontaktaufnehmenden Personen f\u00fchlen sich dadurch angesprochen, dass man die M\u00f6glichkeit hat, wenn man sich gemeinsam darauf verst\u00e4ndigt, das entsprechend zu konkretisieren. Die Fragen explizit danach, ob danach daraus etwas Konkretes entsteht und sind immer positiv \u00fcberrascht, dass das in der Tat so ist. Die zweite von den beiden Personen, also die Person, die sich eher konfrontiert sieht mit dem Mediationsvorschlag, die ist durch diese Vollstreckungsm\u00f6glichkeit weniger angesprochen. Die wird vielmehr durch den freiwilligen Aspekt angesprochen und durch den Umstand, dass der Mediator nicht anstelle der Person entscheiden kann. Also je nachdem, welche Person man ist im Konfliktfall, je nachdem, welche Rolle man hat, f\u00fchlt man sich entweder mehr oder weniger dadurch angesprochen. Aber ich habe noch nie eine Person gehabt in meiner Praxis, die gesagt hat, dass sie diesen Mediationsprozess dann auf keinen Fall will, weil die Leute in der Regel immer verstehen, dass die Freiwilligkeit dazu f\u00fchrt, dass man sich diese Mediationseinigung im Rahmen eines Urteils nicht aufzwingen lassen kann. Schon aber alleine diese Fragestellung zu verstehen und zu merken, das ist wichtig, zwischen Wirksamkeit des Vertrages und der Vollstreckungsf\u00e4higkeit aus dem Vertrag zu unterscheiden, finde ich enorm hilfreich und wahrscheinlich dann auch eher gegeben.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_10\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"506.88\" data-end-seconds=\"517.98\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[8:26]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Als ich das h\u00e4ufig hier so wahrnehme, auch bei Ausbildungskandidaten, dass einfach die Frage allein ist, ist denn der Vertrag rechtswirksam oder wirksam? Ja, der ist wirksam, klar.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_11\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"518.24\" data-end-seconds=\"529.96\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[8:38]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Aber was passiert, wenn dar\u00fcber wieder Streit entsteht, zum Beispiel \u00fcber Fristen oder konkrete Inhalte? Was geschieht dann? Und dann wird deutlich, es braucht doch nochmal was anderes als einfach nur einen Vertrag.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_12\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"530.61\" data-end-seconds=\"559.73\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[8:50]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Den ich dann allenfalls im Wege einer Klage erst durchsetzen kann oder eben, wenn er schon vollstreckbar ist. Ich halte das im Ganzen f\u00fcr noch, also in Deutschland zumindest, au\u00dfer von den Juristen nat\u00fcrlich, ist es eher unterbeleuchtetes Thema, weil die Idee ja eher ist, wir schlie\u00dfen einen Vertrag, der dann auch erf\u00fcllt werden will durch die Parteien. Ich bin auch damit einverstanden, dass der Ansatz da ist, dass man in der Regel einen Vertrag hat, der dann freiwillig umgesetzt wird, Was auch in der Regel geschieht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349113\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[9:19]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Herausforderungen und Chancen der Mediation<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_13\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"560.25\" data-end-seconds=\"648.43\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[9:20]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Was wir sehen ist, dass Menschen, die einen Konflikt haben, also vielleicht eine kurze Klammer. Ich habe eine Mediationssprechstunde ins Leben gerufen, die Leute dabei ber\u00e4t, den richtigen Konfliktl\u00f6sungsweg zu finden. Das hei\u00dft, ich habe in den letzten Jahren \u00fcber 1000 Telefonate gef\u00fchrt mit Menschen, die Rechtsauskunft w\u00fcnschen, die Prozessauskunft w\u00fcnschen. Und was wir doch sehen mit unserer Non-Profit ist, dass die Menschen diesen Konflikt haben, dass die den als sehr kompliziert empfinden und dass sie \u00fcber alles dankbar sind, was die Sachen vereinfacht. Mediation an sich ist nicht super einfach. Was Mediation aber einfach macht in der Wahrnehmung der Rechtssuchenden ist beispielsweise, wenn man einen Ansprechpartner hat f\u00fcr den gesamten Prozess. Der Mediator, der also den gesamten Prozess von A bis Z begleiten kann, unabh\u00e4ngig davon, ob er einen Sachverst\u00e4ndigen hinzuzieht, ob er einen Anwalt hinzuzieht, um den Vertrag zu schreiben, f\u00fchrt in den K\u00f6pfen der Leute, die sich entscheiden m\u00fcssen, ob sie eine Mediation versuchen m\u00f6chten, dazu, dass es sich einfacher anf\u00fchlt. Genauso ist das auch mit dieser Urteilsm\u00f6glichkeit. Die Menschen verstehen, okay, das macht es mir einfach. Ich muss \u00fcberhaupt nicht erkl\u00e4ren, was Vollstreckbarkeit ist. Ich kann den Leuten im Gespr\u00e4ch einfach sagen, ja, die Mediationseinigung kann Urteilskraft erlangen. Das ist den Leuten an der Stelle genug. Die brauchen keine langen juristischen Ausf\u00fchrungen. Einfach diese Gewissheit zu haben, reicht den Menschen. Die Menschen haben ein Gef\u00fchl, was ein Urteil ist. Das f\u00fchrt also dazu, dass Mediation als einfacher wahrgenommen wird, verglichen mit einem System, wo diese M\u00f6glichkeit nicht besteht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_14\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"649.05\" data-end-seconds=\"671.53\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[10:49]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das finde ich einen guten Hinweis. Man geht halt zu Gericht und das ist ein Geb\u00e4ude mit vielen Menschen und wei\u00df nicht, was da geschieht. Oder man geht zu einem Mediator. Das ist eine Person, der ist Ansprechpartner und sagt, er bleibt von A bis Z dabei. Dass das ein wichtiges Argument ist, wo der Konflikt oder die Konfliktbearbeitung<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349114\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[11:14]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Mediation als Verfahren und ihre Flexibilit\u00e4t<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_15\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"671.53\" data-end-seconds=\"685.99\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:11]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">vereinfacht wird aus Sicht der Parteien. Das finde ich einen guten Punkt. Das war mir bisher noch gar nicht so klar. Aber das hei\u00dft auch, ich brauche einen Mediator, der das auch sozusagen mitmachen kann, diese Prozedur von A bis Z, egal in welchem Verfahren.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_16\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"686.76\" data-end-seconds=\"753.44\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[11:26]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ja, beziehungsweise einen Mediator, der zumindest die Vorgehensweise kennt und der damit einverstanden ist, sich dann, wenn n\u00f6tig, Hilfe zu holen, gegebenenfalls den Vertrag durch eine Drittperson schreiben zu lassen. Es gibt ja immer auch das Risiko, dass man befangen dadurch wird, wie man den Vertrag schreibt als Mediator. Deswegen, wenn man sich damit nicht wohl f\u00fchlt oder wenn man sieht beim Schreiben des Vertrages, dass das ein Risiko birgt, dass ein Interessenskonflikt entsteht, dann hat man auf jeden Fall Interesse, jemanden hinzuzuziehen. Deswegen wird es auch sehr oft so gemacht, dass der Mediator zwar die Einigung erm\u00f6glicht, letztlich den Vertrag aber durch eine Drittperson schreiben l\u00e4sst und dann k\u00f6nnen die Personen nochmal zur\u00fcck zum Mediator und den Inhalt des Vertrages besprechen. Also es ist nicht so, dass der Mediator unbedingt alles alleine machen muss, aber diesen Ansprechpartner darstellen zu k\u00f6nnen, das hat einen enormen Mehrwert, die Mediationswissenschaft extrem zu sch\u00e4tzen. Kommen wir noch ein bisschen zur Mediation als Verfahren. Also ich habe sozusagen ja auch deinen Fachaufsatz in der ZKM so als Grundlage und hatte den Eindruck so bei der Definition und Vertraulichkeit, Freiwilligkeit von Mediation.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_17\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"754\" data-end-seconds=\"833.79\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[12:34]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Dass es ausf\u00fchrlicher normiert ist und mitunter auch m\u00f6glicherweise anders aufgefasst wird. Also bei der Vertraulichkeit hatte ich den Eindruck, die muss gegeben sein. Nur dann ist es Mediation, w\u00e4hrend wir in Deutschland durchaus auch sagen k\u00f6nnen, wir k\u00f6nnen darauf verzichten. Also wir k\u00f6nnen es auch \u00f6ffentlich machen. Aber wie ist es in Belgien? Also es gibt zwei Typen von Mediationen. Es gibt die Mediation, die nicht unter die Anforderungen des Gesetzes f\u00e4llt, was dazu f\u00fchrt, dass man beispielsweise auch dieses Urteilskraft \u00fcber den Mediator als Weg nicht ergreifen kann. Daneben gibt es also die Mediation \u00fcber einen zugelassenen Vermittler, der dann ein Mediationsprotokoll, also einen Mediationsvertrag erstellen muss am Anfang der Mediation. Und ab dem Moment, wenn wir zum Beispiel diese Vertraulichkeit nehmen, wird es eine vertragliche Vertraulichkeit. Einerseits haben wir den Mediator, der unterliegt einer gesetzlichen Schweigepflicht, vergleichbar mit der des Anwaltes. Unabh\u00e4ngig davon, ob der Quellberuf nun Anwaltsberuf ist oder Psychologe oder sozial arbeitende Person, das macht keinen Unterschied. Die Personen verpflichten sich aber dann zur Vertraulichkeit in dem Vertrag und dar\u00fcber hinaus gibt es einen Gesetzesartikel, der dann auch explizit vorsieht, dass falls eine Person die Vertraulichkeit nicht ber\u00fccksichtigt.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_18\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"834.51\" data-end-seconds=\"921.63\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[13:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Einerseits diese Dokumente, diese Erkl\u00e4rungen von Rechts wegen aus dem Verfahren ausgeschlossen werden, falls die Angelegenheit dann nochmal vor Gericht abgeurteilt ist. Und andererseits steht explizit im Gesetz, dass ein Schadensersatz gefordert und auch zugesprochen werden kann, dar\u00fcber hinaus, dass die Unterlagen dann vom Verfahren ausgeschlossen worden sind. Das ist also nat\u00fcrlich letztlich keine Garantie, dass die Menschen nicht dann doch versuchen, Elemente einflie\u00dfen zu lassen, falls die Mediation nicht klappt. Aber es gibt doch eine doppelte Konsequenz, die, auch wenn das Brechen der Schweigepflicht durch die Mediator nat\u00fcrlich keinen strafrechtlichen Vorsatz darstellt, trotzdem Eindruck macht und auch funktioniert. Und diese beiden Arten von Mediation, das ist auch sozusagen gelebte Praxis. Es gibt die formalisierte Mediation, wo dann auch, da k\u00f6nnen wir gleich zum Thema zugelassener Vermittler kommen, der formeller agiert, da ein St\u00fcck auch mit einer h\u00f6heren, ich w\u00fcrde sagen, Autorit\u00e4t auch agiert, wenn diese Verpflichtung zur Protokollschreibung sozusagen auch au\u00dferhalb des Einflussbereichs der Medianten ist. Da ist man schon an einer, ich w\u00fcrde sagen, offizielleren Stelle als jetzt der nicht zugelassene Vermittler oder die informelle Mediation, wo einfach jemand hilft, zwei Konfliktparteien eine L\u00f6sung zu finden. Ja, das stimmt. Also vielleicht noch, ich m\u00f6chte nicht, dass der Eindruck entsteht, dass es da ein&#8230;<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_19\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"922.67\" data-end-seconds=\"999.73\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[15:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Sehr starrer, trockener Prozess ist, diese institutionalisierte Mediation. Und das ist in der Regel nicht, die Mediationsprotokolle sind so geschrieben, dass Laien die auch verstehen k\u00f6nnen. Es wird da vor allen Dingen der Nachdruck bei der Kommunikation mit den Medianen darauf gelegt, dass diese Protokolle sie sch\u00fctzen. Und man kann dieses Protokoll dann nutzen, um den Medianen zu vermitteln, dass es in ihrem eigenen Interesse ist, dass wir eigentlich dadurch den Rahmen schaffen, vertraglich, der die Medianten sch\u00fctzt. Du hattest eben auch noch angesprochen, dass man in Deutschland ja auch einfach informell eine nicht vertrauliche Mediation machen kann. Das ist auch im Rahmen dieser formellen Mediation m\u00f6glich. Wir k\u00f6nnen also zusammen entscheiden, dass dieses oder jenes Element der Mediation nicht vertraulich ist. Das Protokoll ist es sowieso nicht und die Einigung beispielsweise kann man als nicht vertraulich kennzeichnen Oder beispielsweise, wenn eine Immobilie eingesch\u00e4tzt wird, dann kann man erstmal das Gutachten anfangen, kann dann aber gemeinsam entscheiden mit den Medianten, dass das trotzdem ein offizielles Dokument ist. Also dieser Rahmen f\u00f6rdert gr\u00f6\u00dfere Kreativit\u00e4t. Das ist wichtig, weil man gibt die Sicherheit, aber gleichzeitig die Flexibilit\u00e4t aus dem Rahmen auszubrechen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_20\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1002.19\" data-end-seconds=\"1012.73\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[16:42]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Hey, du, der diesen Podcast h\u00f6rt, vergiss nicht, ihn zu bewerten und eine R\u00fcckmeldung zu geben. Vielen Dank und jetzt geht&#8217;s weiter.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349115\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[16:54]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Vertraulichkeit und Freiwilligkeit in der Mediation<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_21\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1014.93\" data-end-seconds=\"1076.01\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[16:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das ist dann \u00e4hnlich wie in Deutschland. Die Parteien k\u00f6nnen alles, wie es ihnen beliebt, regeln. Der Mediator als solches ist erst einmal zur Vertraulichkeit verpflichtet. Er unterliegt der Schweigepflicht. Er kann sp\u00e4ter davon entbunden werden, aber das ist erst einmal das geregelte Etwas auch. Letzte Frage vielleicht zur Theorie und dann kommen wir zur Praxis, wie das da gelebt wird in Belgien, welche Erfahrungen ihr da macht. Aber noch zum Thema Freiwilligkeit. Ist das etwas, was sozusagen derart verstanden wird, dass die Parteien Lust und Laune haben m\u00fcssen in der Mediation und keinen besseren Ort, als jetzt dort in der Mediation zu sein? Oder gibt es auch die Kontexte von Arbeitswelt oder aber auch, dass die eine Seite Druck aus\u00fcbt, jetzt die Mediation zu machen, wie das vielleicht bei einer Trennungsmediation ist, nach dem Motto, wenn du jetzt nicht mitkommst, dann gehe ich halt zu Gericht. Also jetzt entweder machen wir es gemeinsam g\u00fctlich oder einseitig dann per Klage. Wie wird Freiwilligkeit verstanden?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_22\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1076.87\" data-end-seconds=\"1132.62\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[17:56]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Eine Mediation ist&#8230; Wird ja sehr oft auch dann erst begonnen, wenn sich die Parteien, die Medianen derart festgefahren haben, dass sie nicht mehr weiter wissen. Das hei\u00dft, nat\u00fcrlich gibt es Szenarien, wo Druck auch eine Rolle spielt. Das Freiwilligkeitsprinzip ist aber absolut. Das hei\u00dft, ob die Leute nun subjektiv den Eindruck haben, dass die nun ein Risiko haben, wenn sie nicht an der Mediation teilnehmen, das sind Sicherelemente, die eine Rolle spielen. Das ist aber streng genommen auch Teil vom L\u00f6sungsprozess, dass man erstmal die Alternativen zu den Mediationsl\u00f6sungen versucht, sich im Kopf durchzuspielen und schauen, wo bin ich denn eigentlich am besten aufgehoben. Vom Prinzip her kann das Gericht in Belgien eine Mediation nur dann anordnen, wenn mindestens eine der beiden Parteien das m\u00f6chte. Das hei\u00dft, in der Tat kann der Richter in Belgien \u00fcber den Kopf hinweg einer zweiten Partei den Mediationsversuch anordnen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349116\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[18:53]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Die f\u00f6derale Mediationskommission in Belgien<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_23\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1133.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1208.78\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[18:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Gleichzeitig nimmt das nicht die Freiwilligkeit weg. Das hei\u00dft, der Richter bezeichnet dann den Mediator. Der Mediator empf\u00e4ngt die Person zu einem Mediationsgespr\u00e4ch. Wenn die Personen dann nicht an diesem Gespr\u00e4ch teilnehmen, dann kann der Mediator nichts anderes machen, als nach Ablauf der Dauer der Mission, meistens drei bis sechs Monate, die verl\u00e4ngerbar ist, dann dem Gericht zu schreiben, dass die Mediation abgeschlossen ist. Die Vertraulichkeit ist absolut und die Freiwilligkeit ist ebenfalls absolut mit der Nuance, dass der Richter die gesetzliche M\u00f6glichkeit hat, die Person zu ermutigen, in diese Richtung zu gehen, indem er einen Beschluss verk\u00fcnden kann, wo er den Versuch anordnet. Was in der Praxis aber sehr selten ist, weil die Richter eben nicht das Gef\u00fchl geben m\u00f6chten, den Medianden, die auf ihren Gerichtstermin gewartet haben, dass er nicht \u00fcber die Angelegenheit im Urteilsrahmen befinden m\u00f6chte. Obwohl die Praxis zeigt, dass es funktioniert, wenn Personen auch \u00fcber den Willen hinweg hin zum Mediator genutscht werden, dass trotzdem gute Einigungen entstehen, aber Richter aus anderen Gr\u00fcnden von dieser Gelegenheit selten Gebrauch machen. Johannes, gucken wir uns das an, was in Belgien mediativ abgeht.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_24\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1209.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1243.24\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[20:09]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Genau, ihr habt, und das finde ich einfach schon bemerkenswert, eine zentrale Stelle eingerichtet bzw. Eingerichtet bekommen, staatlicherseits, eine Kommission, die f\u00fcr alle Belange zust\u00e4ndig ist, was an zentralen Aufgaben f\u00fcr die Mediation ansteht. Vielleicht so, f\u00fcr die Weiterentwicklung, f\u00fcr die, was es braucht und aber auch wahrscheinlich \u00fcberhaupt auch die Daten zu sammeln. Ihr seid wahrscheinlich auch eine Stelle, die einfach einen \u00dcberblick hat, was \u00fcberhaupt geschieht alles in Belgien.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_25\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1244.02\" data-end-seconds=\"1266.96\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[20:44]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Vielleicht ein paar Worte so zur Einordnung dieser f\u00f6deralen Mediationskommission, bei der du auch im Vorstandsbereich bist, also wo du auch einen \u00dcberblick jetzt hast dr\u00fcber. Ja, also die Kommission gibt es in der Tat seit 2005. Dieses Jahr ist das 20-j\u00e4hrige Jubil\u00e4um und es hat also ein Gesetz gegeben und in dem Gesetz ist ganz klar beantwortet, was f\u00fcr Aufgaben die Kommission hat.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_26\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1267.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1351.02\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[21:07]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Ganz grob ist es das Sich-K\u00fcmmern um die Zulassung der Mediatoren, das Sich-K\u00fcmmern um die Standesregeln und die Sanktionen der Mediatoren, wenn sie sich nicht an die Standesregeln halten, und das Sich-K\u00fcmmern um die Weiterbildungsinstitute und das Freigeben der Weiterbildungsangebote, um diese zu ber\u00fccksichtigen im Zulassungsprozess. Dar\u00fcber hinaus ist auch der gesetzliche Auftrag, dass man die Mediation bekannter macht. Auf die Frage zu den Daten ist es so, leider, dass es nicht genug Daten \u00fcber Mediation gibt, was unter anderem aber auch von einem praktischen Problem her r\u00fchrt. Erstmal, dass dadurch, dass Mediationen vertraulich sind, die Mediatoren selbst ihre Daten nicht in ein System eingeben k\u00f6nnen. Sie m\u00fcssen auch nicht der F\u00f6deralen Mediationskommission Bericht erstatten. Es gibt alle paar Jahre ein Mediationsbarometer, wo alle Mediatoren in Belgien befragt werden, anonym, was dann einen Richtwert gibt, wie viele Mediationen dann stattgefunden haben k\u00f6nnten. Das ist aber sehr indikativ. Und ein weiteres Problem in der Praxis ist, dass Mediation, wie ich es eben auch schon sagte, nicht immer zu einer homologierten Einigung f\u00fchrt. Und selbst wenn man eine Einigung hat, die dann Urteilskraft erlangen soll, ist es auch oft so.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_27\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1351.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1379\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[22:31]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Dass es letztlich nicht der Mediator ist, sondern dass es die Anw\u00e4lte der Medianden sind, die die Angelegenheit dann bei Gericht anberaumen und dann gemeinsam die Einigung beurkunden. Das hei\u00dft also, selbst wenn man eine erfolgreiche Mediation hat, die zu einem Vertrag f\u00fchrt, der vollstreckbar sein soll, selbst dann ist es nicht gesagt, dass das automatisch \u00fcber den Mediator geht. Sprich, es gibt extrem viele Szenarien, wo die Daten nicht erfasst werden.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_28\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1379.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1401.42\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[22:59]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wie sch\u00e4tzt du die Situation in Belgien ein? Es ist auch etwas, wo ihr sagt, wir k\u00f6nnten eigentlich wesentlich mehr wegarbeiten, wenn wir gefragt werden w\u00fcrden, wir Mediatoren. Sind wir schon an der Belastungsgrenze? Und wenn jetzt nicht mehr staatliche Unterst\u00fctzung kommt, sind die Mediatoren n\u00e4chste Woche alle \u00fcberlastet und \u00fcberarbeitet.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349117\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[23:21]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Mediationslandschaft und Herausforderungen<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_29\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1402.28\" data-end-seconds=\"1457.78\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[23:22]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wie ist die Erfahrung in Belgien? Absolut nicht. Also in Belgien gibt es tats\u00e4chlich kaum Mediatoren, die Vollzeit als Mediatoren im Rahmen dieser formalisierten Mediation arbeiten. Es gibt sehr viele Mediatoren, die im Rahmen von Ombudsdiensten, Schlichtungsdiensten, Nachbarschaftsmediationsdiensten, die n\u00e4her am B\u00fcrger sind, die kostenlos sind. Es gibt eine Panoplie an Mediationsverwandtenverfahren, die alle angewandt werden, wo dann auch gegebenenfalls im Angestelltenverh\u00e4ltnis als Mediator interveniert wird. Aber \u00fcber die reine formelle Mediation 100 Prozent zu erwirtschaften, ist momentan sehr schwierig. Das liegt an verschiedenen Faktoren. Ein Faktor ist sicherlich, dass die Mediation nicht sonderlich bekannt ist. Wir haben mit der Universit\u00e4t Antwerpen eine Studie durchgef\u00fchrt, wo wir Menschen dar\u00fcber befragt haben, einen Mediationsbegriff, den wir vorgegeben hatten, aus drei Definitionen zu identifizieren. Da waren immerhin 58 Prozent der Personen in der Lage, das zu tun.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_30\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1458.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1508.74\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[24:18]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Gleichzeitig gibt es aber ein Mediationsmissverst\u00e4ndnis. Das hei\u00dft, der Otto Normalb\u00fcrger, der ist ja kein Fachmann in Konfliktbeilegung, muss er auch nicht sein. Der hat aber dann unter Umst\u00e4nden Schwierigkeiten zu erkennen, wenn er einen Konflikt hat. Wann handelt es sich um einen Mediationskonflikt? Wann ist da Mediationspotenzial? Das ist also ein Element, wo beispielsweise die Personen in dieser Studie angegeben haben, dass sie f\u00fcr Streitigkeiten mit kleinen Geldbetr\u00e4gen, oder einfache Streitigkeiten die Mediation nehmen w\u00fcrden und bei komplexen Streitigkeiten oder bei Streitigkeiten, wo es um sehr viel Geld sich eher f\u00fcr das Gericht entscheiden w\u00fcrden. Also man sieht einerseits, sie identifizieren einen richtigen Mediationsbegriff, haben ein Gef\u00fchl, was es ist und andererseits wird nicht zwingend, wenn man es relativ generell fragt, identifiziert, wof\u00fcr Mediation alles der angebrachte Weg sein k\u00f6nnte.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_31\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1509.66\" data-end-seconds=\"1576.3\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[25:09]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Dar\u00fcber hinaus gibt es nat\u00fcrlich die Schwierigkeit, die zweite Person oder die dritte, vierte Person im Konflikt auch zu \u00fcberzeugen, eine Mediation zu machen. Das f\u00fchrt auch dazu, dass es schwierig ist, die Mediationsanfrage zu mobilisieren. Das wird in Deutschland nicht anders sein. Und was, glaube ich, als dritter Faktor vielleicht in Deutschland auch Obwohl auch nicht anders sein wird, ist, dass selbst Juristen oder Personen im weitesten Sinne, die im Konfliktumfeld zu Hause sind, die im Rechtsbereich arbeiten, dass auch diese Personen trotz aller gesetzlichen Mechanismen noch nicht zwingend selber Teil einer Mediation direkt oder indirekt gewesen sind und dadurch auch nicht automatisch das richtige Feeling haben, wann die Mediation der richtige Ansatz ist. Eigentlich sehen wir eine Justizlandschaft, wo eine grunds\u00e4tzliche Offenheit f\u00fcr Mediation besteht. Es gibt Gesetzesregeln, die die Mediation f\u00f6rdern. Es gibt Initiativen, lokale wie national, die die Mediation f\u00f6rdern. Es gibt die Anwaltschaft, die sich die Mediation gro\u00df auf die Fahne geschrieben hat. Und gleichzeitig in der Praxis ist einfach noch Sensibilisierung erforderlich, um dann auch zu einer h\u00f6heren Nachfrage zu f\u00fchren. Ja, das kann ich so f\u00fcr den<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349118\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[26:19]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Blick auf den deutschen Mediationsmarkt<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_32\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1576.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1594.58\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[26:16]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">deutschen Mediationsraum auch wiedererkennen. Vielleicht eine Frage, also ich gehe jetzt mal davon aus, du hast in der deutschen Fachzeitschrift ver\u00f6ffentlicht zur Mediation in Belgien, du wirst als deutschsprachiger Belgier einen Blick auf den deutschen Mediationsmarkt oder Mediatoren kennen.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_33\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1595.34\" data-end-seconds=\"1612.92\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[26:35]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wie guckst du nach Deutschland? Was machen wir so mit der Mediation? Hast du einen guten Tipp oder zumindest einfach einen kritischen Blick drauf, wo du sagst, also da k\u00f6nnten wir echt noch ein paar Schritte gehen oder auch ein bisschen schneller oder umf\u00e4nglicher agieren?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_34\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1613.98\" data-end-seconds=\"1673.8\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[26:53]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Also erstmal sehe ich eine Parallele zwischen Belgien und Deutschland. Die Parallele ist, dass die Mediatorenlandschaft sich nicht zusammensetzt aus, es ist keine homogene Masse, es sind heterogene Akteure, die alle nat\u00fcrlich ihre eigenen Interessen durch ihre eigene Brille, die Mediationswelt, ihre eigene Praxis sehen. Denn das f\u00fchrt dazu, dass es schwierig ist, dass, wei\u00df ich zumindest aus Deutschland, eine gemeinsame Stimme zu finden, die absolut erforderlich w\u00e4re, um auf nationaler Ebene dann auch zu einer vielleicht etwas grunds\u00e4tzlicheren Verankerung der Mediation f\u00fchren k\u00f6nnten. Das ist in Belgien nicht anders. Nur parallel sind in Belgien halt schon seit Jahrzehnten mittlerweile diese, auch auf der gesetzgeberischen Ebene, Initiativen aktiv wieder zu gef\u00fchrt haben, dass es dieses Regelwerk gibt. Ich finde es tats\u00e4chlich etwas bedauerlich, dass dieses Zentralisieren der Mediation, also ich glaube fest daran, dass die f\u00f6derale Mediationskommission in Belgien ein wunderbares Instrument ist, was man dann nutzen kann, wenn man es richtig macht, um die Mediation effektiv zu f\u00f6rdern.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_35\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1674.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1714.06\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[27:54]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das geschieht nach meiner Kenntnis des deutschen Marktes da eher \u00fcber privatwirtschaftliche Akteure, was absolut nicht verwerflich ist, was einfach nur dazu f\u00fchrt, dass man gegebenenfalls Energie dadurch verliert, dass man sich in beruflichen Grabenk\u00e4mpfen verliert. Das ist doch keine eigene Profession, Mediation. Wir sind einfach in unseren Grundberufen zu Hause und da macht es einen Unterschied, ob ich als Rechtsanwalt in der Rechtsanwaltskammer bin und als Theologe weiter als Pastor t\u00e4tig bin oder eben als Sozialp\u00e4dagoge. Diese Profession, aber gelingt euch das in dieser Kommission zumindest zu sagen, wir haben ein Professionsverst\u00e4ndnis.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_36\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1714.78\" data-end-seconds=\"1731.74\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:34]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wir \u00fcben unsere Profession unterschiedlich aus, aber wir verstehen uns als Mediatoren. Und das ist auch sp\u00fcrbar innerhalb der Kommission und so k\u00f6nnen wir auch kommunizieren. Oder habt ihr auch noch, das ist ein Sammelsurium von Ursprungsprofessionen?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_37\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1732.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1765.68\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[28:52]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Beides. Ja, das ist ein Sammelsurium von Ursprungsprofessionen, was sich auch dadurch ergibt, dass das Gesetz ganz klar vorschreibt, wer sitzt eigentlich in dieser Kommission? Da steht klar drin, vier Anw\u00e4lte, vier Notare, zwei Gerichtsvollzieher, sechs Personen aus Quellberufen, die nicht juristisch sind. Das hei\u00dft, es ist ganz klar geregelt, ich als Anwalt kann nur in dieser Hauptkommission sitzen, wenn ich \u00fcber die Anwaltskammer vorgeschlagen worden bin. Also gibt es verschiedene Wege, in die Kommission zu kommen. Das hei\u00dft, diese Zusammensetzung der Kommission ist auch in der Regel ein Thema.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_38\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1766.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1837.56\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[29:26]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Wor\u00fcber dann die Mediationswelt sich austauscht. Beispielsweise sind die Nichtjuristen ausreichend in dieser Kommission vertreten, was jetzt k\u00fcrzlich zu einer Gesetzes\u00e4nderung gef\u00fchrt hat, sodass jetzt mehr Personen aus nichtjuristischen Berufen in dieser Kommission sitzen. Und ja, in dieser Kommission wird dann nat\u00fcrlich auf Grundlage der Erfahrungen, die jeder Mediator hat als Mediator, aber auch in seinem Quellberuf, dar\u00fcber debattiert, welche Entscheidungen nun zu treffen sind. Es ist beispielsweise ein Thema, \u00fcber das viel gesprochen wird, wie viele Zeitstunden Weiterbildung erforderlich sind, um dann die Zulassung zu erhalten. Und da spielt nat\u00fcrlich eine Rolle, aus welchem Quellberuf man kommt. Der Vorteil ist halt, dass man dazu verdammt ist, an einem Tisch zu sitzen, um gemeinsam Entscheidungen zu erarbeiten. Und das f\u00fchrt zu Ergebnissen. Die Ergebnisse finden bestimmt nicht immer alle gut, aber das wird man eh nie erreichen k\u00f6nnen. Aber zumindest gibt es Ergebnisse. Und das hat einen enormen Vorteil, weil man halt eine Position hat, dass man auch Entscheidungen treffen kann. Und dass das Justizministerium jemanden dazu bef\u00e4higt, weil das Justizministerium beispielsweise sagt, es gibt Standesregeln, ihr als Mediatorinvereinigung, als f\u00f6derale Mediationskommission seid daf\u00fcr verantwortlich, aber die Regeln schreibt dann die Kommission in vollkommener Unabh\u00e4ngigkeit. Das hei\u00dft, es ist ein wirklicher Hebel, etwas zu ver\u00e4ndern.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_39\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1838.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1860.23\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[30:38]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Das kann ich mir gut vorstellen. Manchmal muss man sozusagen in Not gebracht werden, dass man eine Entscheidung dann auch bringt, die sonst, freiwillig nicht kommen w\u00fcrde. Das finde ich eine sch\u00f6ne Ironie der Geschichte im Hinblick auf Produzenten, Mediatoren und den Anwendern von Konfliktparteien.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349119\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[31:01]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Prozesskostenhilfe und Mediation in Belgien<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_40\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1860.43\" data-end-seconds=\"1878.43\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group focus:outline-none\" contenteditable=\"\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\">[31:00]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">Vielleicht letzte Frage auch in dem Zusammenhang. Hast du Erfahrung dazu, wie viele Mediatoren in Belgien auch schon mal selbst mediant in einer eigenen Konfliktbearbeitung waren? Ist das ein Thema, ob man selber eben auch dieses Produkt, dieses Verfahren w\u00e4hlen w\u00fcrde oder gew\u00e4hlt hat?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_41\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1879.01\" data-end-seconds=\"1937.45\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"31:19.01\">[31:19]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:19.01 - 31:19.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1879.01\" data-end-seconds=\"1879.35\" data-confidence=\"1\">Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:19.35 - 31:19.47, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1879.35\" data-end-seconds=\"1879.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> habe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:19.47 - 31:19.79, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1879.47\" data-end-seconds=\"1879.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> keine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:19.79 - 31:20.29, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1879.79\" data-end-seconds=\"1880.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zahlen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:20.45 - 31:20.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1880.45\" data-end-seconds=\"1880.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:20.59 - 31:20.95, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1880.59\" data-end-seconds=\"1880.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Eindruck<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:20.95 - 31:21.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1880.95\" data-end-seconds=\"1881.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:21.83 - 31:21.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1881.83\" data-end-seconds=\"1881.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:21.97 - 31:22.43, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1881.97\" data-end-seconds=\"1882.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:22.43 - 31:22.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1882.43\" data-end-seconds=\"1882.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:22.89 - 31:23.53, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1882.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1883.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenigsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:23.53 - 31:24.23, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1883.53\" data-end-seconds=\"1884.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> betrifft.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:24.47 - 31:24.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1884.47\" data-end-seconds=\"1884.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:24.59 - 31:24.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1884.59\" data-end-seconds=\"1884.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Eindruck<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:24.89 - 31:25.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1884.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1885.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:25.23 - 31:25.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1885.23\" data-end-seconds=\"1885.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:25.35 - 31:25.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1885.35\" data-end-seconds=\"1885.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Personen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:25.81 - 31:26.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1885.81\" data-end-seconds=\"1886.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:26.01 - 31:26.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1886.01\" data-end-seconds=\"1886.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:26.19 - 31:26.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1886.19\" data-end-seconds=\"1886.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:26.61 - 31:27.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1886.61\" data-end-seconds=\"1887.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> angesprochen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:27.21 - 31:27.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1887.21\" data-end-seconds=\"1887.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fchlen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:27.75 - 31:28.05, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1887.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1888.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:28.05 - 31:28.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1888.05\" data-end-seconds=\"1888.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:28.21 - 31:28.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1888.21\" data-end-seconds=\"1888.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dahinterliegenden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:28.77 - 31:29.33, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1888.77\" data-end-seconds=\"1889.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Prinzipien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:29.33 - 31:29.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1889.33\" data-end-seconds=\"1889.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:29.61 - 31:30.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1889.61\" data-end-seconds=\"1890.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Freiwilligkeit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:30.21 - 31:30.41, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1890.21\" data-end-seconds=\"1890.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> des<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:30.41 - 31:30.93, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1890.41\" data-end-seconds=\"1890.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemeinsamen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:30.93 - 31:31.33, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1890.93\" data-end-seconds=\"1891.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Erarbeitens.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:31.37 - 31:31.43, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1891.37\" data-end-seconds=\"1891.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:31.43 - 31:31.53, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1891.43\" data-end-seconds=\"1891.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hei\u00dft,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:31.85 - 31:31.93, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1891.85\" data-end-seconds=\"1891.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:31.93 - 31:32.23, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1891.93\" data-end-seconds=\"1892.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Werte,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:32.29 - 31:32.37, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1892.29\" data-end-seconds=\"1892.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:32.37 - 31:32.53, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1892.37\" data-end-seconds=\"1892.53\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:32.53 - 31:33.05, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1892.53\" data-end-seconds=\"1893.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:33.05 - 31:34.31, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1893.05\" data-end-seconds=\"1894.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verk\u00f6rpert,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:34.55 - 31:34.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1894.55\" data-end-seconds=\"1894.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:34.61 - 31:34.93, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1894.61\" data-end-seconds=\"1894.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Personen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:34.93 - 31:35.15, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1894.93\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fchlen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.15 - 31:35.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.15\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.27 - 31:35.39, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.27\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.39 - 31:35.55, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.39\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diesen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.55 - 31:35.87, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.55\" data-end-seconds=\"1895.87\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Werten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:35.87 - 31:36.41, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1895.87\" data-end-seconds=\"1896.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> angesprochen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:36.55 - 31:36.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1896.55\" data-end-seconds=\"1896.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:36.63 - 31:36.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1896.63\" data-end-seconds=\"1896.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:36.77 - 31:37.25, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1896.77\" data-end-seconds=\"1897.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> interessieren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:37.25 - 31:37.37, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1897.25\" data-end-seconds=\"1897.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:37.37 - 31:37.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1897.37\" data-end-seconds=\"1897.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:37.59 - 31:38.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1897.59\" data-end-seconds=\"1898.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:38.13 - 31:38.37, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1898.13\" data-end-seconds=\"1898.37\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Rahmen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:38.37 - 31:38.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1898.37\" data-end-seconds=\"1898.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:38.61 - 31:39.51, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1898.61\" data-end-seconds=\"1899.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zusatzausbildung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:39.51 - 31:39.65, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1899.51\" data-end-seconds=\"1899.65\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:39.65 - 31:39.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1899.65\" data-end-seconds=\"1899.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:39.75 - 31:39.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1899.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1899.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Regel<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:39.97 - 31:40.25, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1899.97\" data-end-seconds=\"1900.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> daf\u00fcr,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:40.53 - 31:40.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1900.53\" data-end-seconds=\"1900.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:40.89 - 31:41.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1900.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1901.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:41.01 - 31:41.25, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1901.01\" data-end-seconds=\"1901.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Beruf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:41.25 - 31:41.85, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1901.25\" data-end-seconds=\"1901.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einzusteigen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:41.95 - 31:42.15, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1901.95\" data-end-seconds=\"1902.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:42.15 - 31:42.39, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1902.15\" data-end-seconds=\"1902.39\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kenne<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:42.39 - 31:42.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1902.39\" data-end-seconds=\"1902.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> pers\u00f6nlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:42.81 - 31:42.99, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1902.81\" data-end-seconds=\"1902.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nat\u00fcrlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:42.99 - 31:43.33, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1902.99\" data-end-seconds=\"1903.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:43.33 - 31:43.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1903.33\" data-end-seconds=\"1903.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediatoren,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:44.05 - 31:44.05, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1904.05\" data-end-seconds=\"1904.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:44.05 - 31:45.05, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1904.05\" data-end-seconds=\"1905.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediationserfahrungen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:45.05 - 31:45.41, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1905.05\" data-end-seconds=\"1905.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bereits<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:45.41 - 31:45.79, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1905.41\" data-end-seconds=\"1905.79\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemacht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_7_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:45.79 - 31:46.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1905.79\" data-end-seconds=\"1906.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:46.43 - 31:46.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1906.43\" data-end-seconds=\"1906.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:46.81 - 31:47.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1906.81\" data-end-seconds=\"1907.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:47.13 - 31:47.25, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1907.13\" data-end-seconds=\"1907.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:47.25 - 31:47.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1907.25\" data-end-seconds=\"1907.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:47.35 - 31:47.51, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1907.35\" data-end-seconds=\"1907.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:47.51 - 31:47.73, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1907.51\" data-end-seconds=\"1907.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Regel,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:47.75 - 31:48.03, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1907.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1908.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> meiner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:48.03 - 31:48.25, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1908.03\" data-end-seconds=\"1908.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Meinung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:48.25 - 31:48.51, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1908.25\" data-end-seconds=\"1908.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nach.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:49.01 - 31:49.47, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1909.01\" data-end-seconds=\"1909.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Johannes,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:49.77 - 31:49.95, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1909.77\" data-end-seconds=\"1909.95\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:49.95 - 31:50.03, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1909.95\" data-end-seconds=\"1910.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:50.03 - 31:50.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1910.03\" data-end-seconds=\"1910.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:50.13 - 31:50.47, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1910.13\" data-end-seconds=\"1910.47\" data-confidence=\"1\"> etwas<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:50.47 - 31:50.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1910.47\" data-end-seconds=\"1910.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:50.75 - 31:51.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1910.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1911.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Abschluss<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:51.13 - 31:51.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1911.13\" data-end-seconds=\"1911.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:51.57 - 31:52.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1911.57\" data-end-seconds=\"1912.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gespr\u00e4ch,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:52.29 - 31:52.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1912.29\" data-end-seconds=\"1912.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:52.75 - 31:53.07, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1912.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1913.07\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:53.07 - 31:54.25, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1913.07\" data-end-seconds=\"1914.25\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_9_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:54.25 - 31:54.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1914.25\" data-end-seconds=\"1914.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Belgien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:54.97 - 31:55.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1914.97\" data-end-seconds=\"1915.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:55.75 - 31:56.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1915.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1916.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Hinblick<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:56.01 - 31:56.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1916.01\" data-end-seconds=\"1916.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:56.21 - 31:56.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1916.21\" data-end-seconds=\"1916.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:56.81 - 31:58.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1916.81\" data-end-seconds=\"1918.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wissen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:58.17 - 31:58.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1918.17\" data-end-seconds=\"1918.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sollten,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:59.07 - 31:59.33, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1919.07\" data-end-seconds=\"1919.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:59.33 - 31:59.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1919.33\" data-end-seconds=\"1919.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:59.63 - 31:59.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1919.63\" data-end-seconds=\"1919.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einfach<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"31:59.89 - 32:00.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1919.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1920.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wichtig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_10_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:00.19 - 32:00.55, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1920.19\" data-end-seconds=\"1920.55\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:00.67 - 32:01.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1920.67\" data-end-seconds=\"1921.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:01.01 - 32:01.15, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1921.01\" data-end-seconds=\"1921.15\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:01.15 - 32:01.33, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1921.15\" data-end-seconds=\"1921.33\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Blick<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:01.33 - 32:01.51, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1921.33\" data-end-seconds=\"1921.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:01.51 - 32:02.05, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1921.51\" data-end-seconds=\"1922.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> behalten?<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:02.05 - 32:03.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1922.05\" data-end-seconds=\"1923.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:03.13 - 32:03.31, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1923.13\" data-end-seconds=\"1923.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> denke,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:03.65 - 32:03.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1923.65\" data-end-seconds=\"1923.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> interessant<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:03.75 - 32:04.31, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1923.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1924.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:04.31 - 32:04.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1924.31\" data-end-seconds=\"1924.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:04.81 - 32:05.41, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1924.81\" data-end-seconds=\"1925.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tatsache,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:05.49 - 32:05.59, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1925.49\" data-end-seconds=\"1925.59\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:05.59 - 32:05.71, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1925.59\" data-end-seconds=\"1925.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:05.71 - 32:05.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1925.71\" data-end-seconds=\"1925.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:05.89 - 32:06.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1925.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1926.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Belgien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:06.35 - 32:07.03, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1926.35\" data-end-seconds=\"1927.03\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_12_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:07.03 - 32:09.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1927.03\" data-end-seconds=\"1929.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Prozesskostenhilfesystem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:09.35 - 32:09.71, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1929.35\" data-end-seconds=\"1929.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gibt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:09.89 - 32:10.09, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1929.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1930.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:10.09 - 32:10.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1930.09\" data-end-seconds=\"1930.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Rechtssuchenden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:10.61 - 32:10.75, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1930.61\" data-end-seconds=\"1930.75\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:10.75 - 32:11.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1930.75\" data-end-seconds=\"1931.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00f6glichkeit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:11.27 - 32:11.77, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1931.27\" data-end-seconds=\"1931.77\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gegeben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_13_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:11.77 - 32:12.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1931.77\" data-end-seconds=\"1932.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:12.65 - 32:13.31, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1932.65\" data-end-seconds=\"1933.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kostenlos<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:13.31 - 32:13.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1933.31\" data-end-seconds=\"1933.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:13.97 - 32:14.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1933.97\" data-end-seconds=\"1934.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediator<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:14.61 - 32:14.93, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1934.61\" data-end-seconds=\"1934.93\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:14.93 - 32:15.49, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1934.93\" data-end-seconds=\"1935.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> konsultieren,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:15.57 - 32:15.67, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1935.57\" data-end-seconds=\"1935.67\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:15.67 - 32:15.85, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1935.67\" data-end-seconds=\"1935.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:15.85 - 32:16.09, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1935.85\" data-end-seconds=\"1936.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:16.09 - 32:16.29, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1936.09\" data-end-seconds=\"1936.29\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:16.29 - 32:16.57, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1936.29\" data-end-seconds=\"1936.57\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Staat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:16.57 - 32:17.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1936.57\" data-end-seconds=\"1937.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bezahlt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_41_14_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:17.17 - 32:17.45, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1937.17\" data-end-seconds=\"1937.45\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_42\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1938.09\" data-end-seconds=\"1957.23\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"32:18.09\">[32:18]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:18.09 - 32:18.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1938.09\" data-end-seconds=\"1938.35\" data-confidence=\"1\">Wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:18.35 - 32:18.85, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1938.35\" data-end-seconds=\"1938.85\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:18.85 - 32:19.49, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1938.85\" data-end-seconds=\"1939.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Medianden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:19.49 - 32:20.35, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1939.49\" data-end-seconds=\"1940.35\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gewisse<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:20.35 - 32:21.31, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1940.35\" data-end-seconds=\"1941.31\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Einkommensgrenzen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:21.31 - 32:22.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1941.31\" data-end-seconds=\"1942.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> unterschreiten.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:22.11 - 32:22.99, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1942.11\" data-end-seconds=\"1942.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:22.99 - 32:23.23, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1942.99\" data-end-seconds=\"1943.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:23.23 - 32:23.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1943.23\" data-end-seconds=\"1943.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nat\u00fcrlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:23.63 - 32:23.83, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1943.63\" data-end-seconds=\"1943.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:23.83 - 32:24.01, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1943.83\" data-end-seconds=\"1944.01\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:24.01 - 32:24.61, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1944.01\" data-end-seconds=\"1944.61\" data-confidence=\"1\"> interessanter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:24.61 - 32:25.17, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1944.61\" data-end-seconds=\"1945.17\" data-confidence=\"1\"> finanzieller<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:25.17 - 32:25.71, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1945.17\" data-end-seconds=\"1945.71\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vorteil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:25.71 - 32:26.13, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1945.71\" data-end-seconds=\"1946.13\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:26.13 - 32:26.91, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1946.13\" data-end-seconds=\"1946.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Medianden<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:26.91 - 32:27.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1946.91\" data-end-seconds=\"1947.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:27.63 - 32:28.21, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1947.63\" data-end-seconds=\"1948.21\" data-confidence=\"1\"> meines<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:28.21 - 32:28.41, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1948.21\" data-end-seconds=\"1948.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wissens<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:28.41 - 32:28.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1948.41\" data-end-seconds=\"1948.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:28.63 - 32:28.81, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1948.63\" data-end-seconds=\"1948.81\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:28.81 - 32:28.99, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1948.81\" data-end-seconds=\"1948.99\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:28.99 - 32:29.19, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1948.99\" data-end-seconds=\"1949.19\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:29.19 - 32:29.43, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1949.19\" data-end-seconds=\"1949.43\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:29.43 - 32:29.73, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1949.43\" data-end-seconds=\"1949.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Form<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:29.73 - 32:29.91, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1949.73\" data-end-seconds=\"1949.91\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:29.91 - 32:30.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1949.91\" data-end-seconds=\"1950.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:30.11 - 32:30.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1950.11\" data-end-seconds=\"1950.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:30.27 - 32:30.69, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1950.27\" data-end-seconds=\"1950.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Deutschland<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:30.69 - 32:30.97, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1950.69\" data-end-seconds=\"1950.97\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_2_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:30.97 - 32:31.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1950.97\" data-end-seconds=\"1951.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:31.11 - 32:31.41, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1951.11\" data-end-seconds=\"1951.41\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bestimmt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:31.41 - 32:31.63, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1951.41\" data-end-seconds=\"1951.63\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:31.63 - 32:31.83, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1951.63\" data-end-seconds=\"1951.83\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:31.83 - 32:32.09, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1951.83\" data-end-seconds=\"1952.09\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sch\u00f6ne<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:32.09 - 32:32.69, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1952.09\" data-end-seconds=\"1952.69\" data-confidence=\"1\"> M\u00f6glichkeit,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:32.99 - 32:33.51, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1952.99\" data-end-seconds=\"1953.51\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:33.51 - 32:34.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1953.51\" data-end-seconds=\"1954.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gespr\u00e4ch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:34.11 - 32:34.49, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1954.11\" data-end-seconds=\"1954.49\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:34.49 - 32:35.05, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1954.49\" data-end-seconds=\"1955.05\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:35.05 - 32:36.11, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1955.05\" data-end-seconds=\"1956.11\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Justizministerium<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:36.11 - 32:36.27, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1956.11\" data-end-seconds=\"1956.27\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:36.27 - 32:36.73, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1956.27\" data-end-seconds=\"1956.73\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00c4hnlichem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:36.73 - 32:36.89, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1956.73\" data-end-seconds=\"1956.89\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_42_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:36.89 - 32:37.23, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1956.89\" data-end-seconds=\"1957.23\" data-confidence=\"1\"> suchen.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_43\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"1958.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2030.7\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"32:38.26\">[32:38]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:38.26 - 32:38.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1958.26\" data-end-seconds=\"1958.46\" data-confidence=\"1\">Um<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:38.46 - 32:38.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1958.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1958.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:38.58 - 32:38.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1958.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1958.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:38.72 - 32:39.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1958.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1959\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ansatz<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:39.00 - 32:39.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1959\" data-end-seconds=\"1959.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:39.16 - 32:39.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1959.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1959.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:39.32 - 32:39.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1959.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1959.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:39.40 - 32:39.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1959.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1959.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:39.86 - 32:40.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1959.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.12 - 32:40.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00f6rdern<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.54 - 32:40.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.74 - 32:40.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1960.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> damit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:40.96 - 32:41.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1960.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_0_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:41.16 - 32:41.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1961.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> indirekt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:41.62 - 32:41.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1961.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1961.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nat\u00fcrlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:41.90 - 32:42.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1961.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1962.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:42.26 - 32:42.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1962.26\" data-end-seconds=\"1962.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gerichte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:42.74 - 32:43.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1962.74\" data-end-seconds=\"1963.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:43.02 - 32:43.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1963.02\" data-end-seconds=\"1963.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> entlasten.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:43.92 - 32:44.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1963.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1964.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> In<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:44.38 - 32:44.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1964.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1964.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Belgien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:44.96 - 32:45.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1964.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1965.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gibt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:45.22 - 32:45.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1965.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1965.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:45.44 - 32:45.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1965.44\" data-end-seconds=\"1965.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> leider<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:45.70 - 32:46.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1965.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1966.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> keine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:46.12 - 32:46.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1966.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1966.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Statistiken,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:46.84 - 32:47.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1966.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1967.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:47.04 - 32:47.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1967.04\" data-end-seconds=\"1967.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oft<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:47.36 - 32:47.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1967.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1967.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diese<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:47.86 - 32:49.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1967.86\" data-end-seconds=\"1969.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Prozesskostenhilfe<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:49.82 - 32:50.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1969.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1970.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:50.28 - 32:50.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1970.28\" data-end-seconds=\"1970.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:50.48 - 32:50.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1970.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1970.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anspruch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:50.82 - 32:51.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1970.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1971.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> genommen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:51.14 - 32:51.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1971.14\" data-end-seconds=\"1971.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:51.82 - 32:52.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1971.82\" data-end-seconds=\"1972.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:52.26 - 32:52.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1972.26\" data-end-seconds=\"1972.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:52.48 - 32:52.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1972.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1972.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:52.70 - 32:52.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1972.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1972.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:52.94 - 32:53.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1972.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1973.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> enorm<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:53.30 - 32:53.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1973.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1973.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> positive<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:53.90 - 32:54.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1973.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1974.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Resonanz<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:54.48 - 32:54.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1974.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1974.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:54.98 - 32:55.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1974.98\" data-end-seconds=\"1975.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:55.16 - 32:56.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1975.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1976.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediationswelt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:56.66 - 32:56.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1976.66\" data-end-seconds=\"1976.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:56.78 - 32:57.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1976.78\" data-end-seconds=\"1977.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:57.08 - 32:57.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1977.08\" data-end-seconds=\"1977.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dieses<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:57.36 - 32:57.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1977.36\" data-end-seconds=\"1977.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> System<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:57.72 - 32:57.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1977.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1977.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:57.90 - 32:58.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1977.9\" data-end-seconds=\"1978.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erfahren,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:58.46 - 32:58.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1978.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1978.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:58.54 - 32:58.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1978.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1978.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:58.72 - 32:59.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1978.72\" data-end-seconds=\"1979.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nat\u00fcrlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:59.32 - 32:59.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1979.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1979.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:59.52 - 32:59.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1979.52\" data-end-seconds=\"1979.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"32:59.68 - 33:00.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1979.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1980\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gericht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:00.00 - 33:00.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1980\" data-end-seconds=\"1980.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_5_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:00.22 - 33:00.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1980.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1980.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> muss.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:00.54 - 33:00.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1980.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1980.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:00.68 - 33:00.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1980.68\" data-end-seconds=\"1980.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> alle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:00.92 - 33:01.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1980.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1981.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediatoren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:01.46 - 33:02.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1981.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1982.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> selbstverst\u00e4ndlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:02.16 - 33:02.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1982.16\" data-end-seconds=\"1982.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sind<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:02.34 - 33:03.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1982.34\" data-end-seconds=\"1983\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anw\u00e4lte.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:03.00 - 33:03.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1983\" data-end-seconds=\"1983.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:03.62 - 33:03.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1983.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1983.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hei\u00dft,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:03.98 - 33:04.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1983.98\" data-end-seconds=\"1984.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> momentan<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:04.26 - 33:04.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1984.26\" data-end-seconds=\"1984.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:04.40 - 33:04.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1984.4\" data-end-seconds=\"1984.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:04.58 - 33:04.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1984.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1984.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> viel<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:04.76 - 33:05.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1984.76\" data-end-seconds=\"1985.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sensibilisierung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:05.64 - 33:06.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1985.64\" data-end-seconds=\"1986.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> betrieben,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:06.62 - 33:07.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1986.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1987.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> um<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:07.08 - 33:07.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1987.08\" data-end-seconds=\"1987.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:07.32 - 33:08.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1987.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1988.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediatoren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_7_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:08.02 - 33:09.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1988.02\" data-end-seconds=\"1989.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dahingehend<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:09.02 - 33:09.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1989.02\" data-end-seconds=\"1989.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:09.18 - 33:09.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1989.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1989.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> informieren,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:09.76 - 33:09.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1989.76\" data-end-seconds=\"1989.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:09.88 - 33:10.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1989.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1990.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:10.10 - 33:10.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1990.1\" data-end-seconds=\"1990.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:10.32 - 33:10.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1990.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1990.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:10.48 - 33:10.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1990.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1990.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Medianen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:10.94 - 33:11.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1990.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1991.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> richtig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:11.30 - 33:11.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1991.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1991.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> informieren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:11.92 - 33:12.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1991.92\" data-end-seconds=\"1992.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:12.46 - 33:12.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1992.46\" data-end-seconds=\"1992.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_8_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:12.58 - 33:12.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1992.58\" data-end-seconds=\"1992.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:12.70 - 33:13.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1992.7\" data-end-seconds=\"1993.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Anw\u00e4lte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:13.12 - 33:13.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1993.12\" data-end-seconds=\"1993.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:13.26 - 33:13.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1993.26\" data-end-seconds=\"1993.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:13.38 - 33:13.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1993.38\" data-end-seconds=\"1993.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:13.50 - 33:13.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1993.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1993.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Richter.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:13.80 - 33:14.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1993.8\" data-end-seconds=\"1994.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:14.30 - 33:14.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1994.3\" data-end-seconds=\"1994.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:14.48 - 33:14.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1994.48\" data-end-seconds=\"1994.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Johannes.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:14.94 - 33:15.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1994.94\" data-end-seconds=\"1995.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:15.06 - 33:15.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1995.06\" data-end-seconds=\"1995.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:15.22 - 33:15.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1995.22\" data-end-seconds=\"1995.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tats\u00e4chlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:15.62 - 33:15.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1995.62\" data-end-seconds=\"1995.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> keine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:15.96 - 33:16.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1995.96\" data-end-seconds=\"1996.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Prozesskosten.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:16.88 - 33:17.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1996.88\" data-end-seconds=\"1997.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:17.06 - 33:17.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1997.06\" data-end-seconds=\"1997.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:17.18 - 33:17.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1997.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1997.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:17.32 - 33:17.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1997.32\" data-end-seconds=\"1997.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_10_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:17.54 - 33:17.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1997.54\" data-end-seconds=\"1997.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hatten,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:17.84 - 33:18.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1997.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1998.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:18.02 - 33:18.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1998.02\" data-end-seconds=\"1998.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:18.18 - 33:18.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1998.18\" data-end-seconds=\"1998.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deutsche<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:18.50 - 33:18.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1998.5\" data-end-seconds=\"1998.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Debatte<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:18.84 - 33:19.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1998.84\" data-end-seconds=\"1999.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:19.28 - 33:20.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"1999.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2000.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:20.20 - 33:20.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2000.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2000.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:20.88 - 33:21.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2000.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2001.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:21.16 - 33:21.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2001.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2001.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Nachgang<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:21.46 - 33:21.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2001.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2001.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_11_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:21.66 - 33:22.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2001.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2002.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bedauern,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:22.50 - 33:23.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2002.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2003\" data-confidence=\"1\"> andere<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:23.00 - 33:23.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2003\" data-end-seconds=\"2003.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Erleichterungen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:23.80 - 33:23.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2003.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2003.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:23.90 - 33:24.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2003.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2004.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> tats\u00e4chlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:24.32 - 33:24.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2004.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2004.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:24.56 - 33:25.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2004.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2005.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:25.04 - 33:25.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2005.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2005.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:25.20 - 33:25.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2005.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2005.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_12_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:25.42 - 33:26.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2005.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2006.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hingekriegt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:26.40 - 33:26.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2006.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2006.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:26.70 - 33:26.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2006.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2006.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:26.98 - 33:27.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2006.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2007.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> scheint<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:27.34 - 33:27.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2007.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2007.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> jetzt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:27.56 - 33:27.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2007.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2007.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:27.84 - 33:28.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2007.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2008.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> abschlie\u00dfend<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:28.72 - 33:29.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2008.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2009.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:29.14 - 33:29.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2009.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2009.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erstmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:29.58 - 33:30.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2009.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2010.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:30.38 - 33:31.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2010.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2011.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deutsche<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:31.06 - 33:32.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2011.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2012.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Justiz<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_13_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:32.02 - 33:32.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2012.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2012.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:32.34 - 33:32.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2012.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2012.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ge\u00e4u\u00dfert,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:32.90 - 33:33.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2012.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:33.02 - 33:33.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2013.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:33.24 - 33:33.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2013.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erstmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:33.68 - 33:33.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2013.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2013.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:33.86 - 33:34.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2013.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2014\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:34.00 - 33:34.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2014\" data-end-seconds=\"2014.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frage<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_14_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:34.34 - 33:34.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2014.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2014.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kommt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:34.74 - 33:34.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2014.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2014.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:34.88 - 33:35.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2014.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2015.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielleicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:35.16 - 33:35.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2015.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2015.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:35.34 - 33:35.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2015.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2015.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:35.46 - 33:35.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2015.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2015.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> da<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:35.58 - 33:35.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2015.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2015.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:35.74 - 33:35.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2015.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2015.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:35.90 - 33:36.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2015.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2016.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wieder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:36.16 - 33:36.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2016.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2016.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hinterher<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:36.96 - 33:37.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2016.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2017.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:37.12 - 33:37.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2017.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2017.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:37.26 - 33:37.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2017.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2017.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:37.36 - 33:37.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2017.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2017.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_15_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:37.48 - 33:37.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2017.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2017.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:37.62 - 33:37.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2017.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2017.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:37.80 - 33:38.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2017.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Neues<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.14 - 33:38.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> getan,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.52 - 33:38.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.62 - 33:38.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.76 - 33:38.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.86 - 33:38.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2018.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> so<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:38.94 - 33:39.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2018.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2019.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:39.14 - 33:39.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2019.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2019.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> letzter<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:39.56 - 33:39.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2019.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2019.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Stand.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:39.90 - 33:40.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2019.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2020.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:40.42 - 33:40.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2020.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2020.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_16_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:40.56 - 33:40.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2020.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2020.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wissen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:40.90 - 33:41.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2020.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2021.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:41.02 - 33:41.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2021.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2021.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:41.20 - 33:41.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2021.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2021.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:41.96 - 33:42.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2021.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2022.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Belgien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:42.36 - 33:42.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2022.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2022.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zumindest<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:42.74 - 33:43.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2022.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2023.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> praktische<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:43.30 - 33:43.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2023.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2023.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Erfahrungen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:43.70 - 33:43.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2023.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2023.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> damit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:43.94 - 33:44.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2023.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2024.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> machen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_17_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:44.32 - 33:44.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2024.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2024.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kann.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:45.00 - 33:45.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2025\" data-end-seconds=\"2025.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:45.54 - 33:45.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2025.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2025.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:45.92 - 33:46.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2025.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2026.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:46.12 - 33:46.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2026.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2026.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:46.24 - 33:46.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2026.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2026.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nochmal<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:46.54 - 33:46.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2026.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2026.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirklich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:46.88 - 33:47.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2026.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2027.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:47.02 - 33:47.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2027.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2027.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> guten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:47.30 - 33:48.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2027.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2028.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ansatzpunkt,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:48.68 - 33:48.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2028.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2028.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:48.84 - 33:49.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2028.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2029.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:49.60 - 33:49.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2029.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2029.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dinge<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:49.82 - 33:50.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2029.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2030.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_43_18_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:50.02 - 33:50.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2030.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2030.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hinterfragen.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_44\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2031.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2060.96\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"33:51.24\">[33:51]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:51.24 - 33:51.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2031.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2031.76\" data-confidence=\"1\">Vielleicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:51.76 - 33:52.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2031.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2032.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:52.04 - 33:53.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2032.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2033.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erg\u00e4nzend<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:53.22 - 33:53.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2033.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2033.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:53.48 - 33:53.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2033.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2033.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deutsche<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:53.82 - 33:54.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2033.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2034.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> System<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:54.10 - 33:54.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2034.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2034.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:54.30 - 33:54.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2034.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2034.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> au\u00dfen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:54.66 - 33:55.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2034.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2035.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> betrachtend,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:56.16 - 33:56.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2036.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2036.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:56.24 - 33:56.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2036.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2036.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:56.40 - 33:56.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2036.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2036.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:56.62 - 33:56.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2036.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2036.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:56.82 - 33:57.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2036.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.22 - 33:57.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.32 - 33:57.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.46 - 33:57.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2037.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Deutschland<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:57.80 - 33:58.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2037.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2038.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sachen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:58.44 - 33:58.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2038.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2038.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> schlecht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:58.82 - 33:59.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2038.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2039.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemacht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:59.12 - 33:59.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2039.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2039.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> werden.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:59.50 - 33:59.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2039.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2039.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00dcberhaupt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"33:59.78 - 33:59.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2039.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2039.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:00.04 - 34:00.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2040.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2040.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:00.06 - 34:00.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2040.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2040.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:00.12 - 34:00.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2040.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2040.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einfach<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:00.32 - 34:00.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2040.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2040.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:00.50 - 34:00.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2040.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2040.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> anderer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:00.84 - 34:01.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2040.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2041.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ansatz.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:01.54 - 34:01.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2041.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2041.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Daraus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:01.76 - 34:02.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2041.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2042.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> entstehen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:02.26 - 34:02.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2042.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2042.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sehr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:02.72 - 34:03.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2042.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2043.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> viele<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:03.02 - 34:03.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2043.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2043.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Impulse<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:03.68 - 34:04.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2043.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2044.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aus<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:04.56 - 34:04.84, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2044.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2044.84\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einer<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:04.84 - 34:05.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2044.84\" data-end-seconds=\"2045.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wirtschaftlichen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:05.48 - 34:06.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2045.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2046.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Perspektive,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:06.44 - 34:06.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2046.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2046.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:06.48 - 34:06.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2046.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2046.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:06.64 - 34:06.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2046.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2046.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:06.94 - 34:07.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2046.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2047.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> funktionieren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:07.90 - 34:08.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2047.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> k\u00f6nnen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.38 - 34:08.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.44 - 34:08.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.54 - 34:08.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> w\u00fcrde<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:08.70 - 34:08.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2048.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2048.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sagen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:09.08 - 34:09.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2049.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2049.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> alles,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:09.40 - 34:09.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2049.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2049.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> was<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:09.52 - 34:10.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2049.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2050.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> funktioniert,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:10.42 - 34:10.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2050.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2050.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:10.58 - 34:11.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2050.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2051.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gut,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:11.76 - 34:12.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2051.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2052.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:12.02 - 34:12.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2052.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2052.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:12.22 - 34:12.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2052.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2052.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> richtig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_5_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:12.64 - 34:13.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2052.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gemacht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.02 - 34:13.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.30 - 34:13.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.44 - 34:13.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2053.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deswegen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:13.72 - 34:14.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2053.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2054.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:14.14 - 34:14.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2054.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2054.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:14.50 - 34:14.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2054.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2054.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> belgische<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:14.90 - 34:15.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2054.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Weg<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.10 - 34:15.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.24 - 34:15.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sicherheit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.52 - 34:15.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.76 - 34:15.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2055.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:15.96 - 34:16.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2055.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2056.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_6_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:16.26 - 34:16.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2056.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2056.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einzige,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:16.76 - 34:17.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2056.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2057\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:17.00 - 34:17.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2057\" data-end-seconds=\"2057.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ergebnisse<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:17.82 - 34:18.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2057.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2058.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> erzielt.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:18.28 - 34:18.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2058.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2058.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:18.36 - 34:18.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2058.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2058.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> belgische<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:18.74 - 34:18.92, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2058.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2058.92\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Land<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:18.92 - 34:19.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2058.92\" data-end-seconds=\"2059.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:19.12 - 34:19.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2059.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2059.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:19.26 - 34:19.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2059.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2059.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:19.44 - 34:19.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2059.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2059.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> um<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:19.70 - 34:20.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2059.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2060.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> einiges<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_44_8_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:20.28 - 34:20.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2060.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2060.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kleiner.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div class=\"px-&#091;11px&#093; pt-4\" data-testid=\"transcript-chapter\">\n<div id=\"chapter_5349120\" class=\"scroll-mt-20 mb-4\">\n<div class=\"inline-block w-full\">\n<div class=\"pr-2 opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 float-left\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4 tabular-nums\">\n<div title=\"Edit\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>[34:23]<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"font-bold whitespace-break-spaces text-gray-900 inline\">\n<div class=\"inline group cursor-pointer whitespace-pre-wrap hover:underline decoration-dotted underline-offset-4\">\n<div class=\"inline\" title=\"Edit\"><strong>Abschlie\u00dfende Gedanken zur Mediation<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"paragraph_45\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2079.34\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"34:21.14\">[34:21]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.14 - 34:21.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2061.18\" data-confidence=\"1\">Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.18 - 34:21.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2061.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> glaube,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.66 - 34:21.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2061.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:21.78 - 34:22.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2061.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2062.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bev\u00f6lkerung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:22.30 - 34:22.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2062.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gleicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:22.56 - 34:22.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2062.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ja<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:22.72 - 34:22.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2062.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:22.96 - 34:23.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2062.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2063.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Nordrhein-Westfalen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:23.96 - 34:24.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2063.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.06 - 34:24.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.40 - 34:24.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> stellt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.68 - 34:24.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.80 - 34:24.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2064.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:24.90 - 34:25.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2064.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2065.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> allgemein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:25.32 - 34:25.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2065.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2065.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielleicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:25.46 - 34:25.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2065.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2065.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:25.68 - 34:25.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2065.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2065.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Frage,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:26.14 - 34:26.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2066.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2066.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> also<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:26.26 - 34:26.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2066.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2066.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nat\u00fcrlich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_1_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:26.58 - 34:26.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2066.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2066.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> man<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:26.72 - 34:26.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2066.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2066.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:26.82 - 34:26.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2066.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2066.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:26.94 - 34:27.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2066.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2067.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> davon<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:27.14 - 34:27.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2067.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2067.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> inspirieren<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:27.66 - 34:27.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2067.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2067.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> lassen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:27.94 - 34:28.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2067.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2068.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:28.12 - 34:28.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2068.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2068.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:28.36 - 34:28.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2068.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2068.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:28.54 - 34:29.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2068.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Blaupause<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.06 - 34:29.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> \u00fcbertragen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.56 - 34:29.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> l\u00e4sst<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.72 - 34:29.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2069.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:29.90 - 34:30.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2069.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2070.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sowas<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:30.16 - 34:30.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2070.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2070.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:30.32 - 34:30.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2070.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2070.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sicherheit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:30.60 - 34:30.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2070.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2070.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:31.60 - 34:31.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2071.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2071.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:31.86 - 34:31.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2071.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2071.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.04 - 34:32.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Johannes.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.42 - 34:32.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.52 - 34:32.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> war<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.70 - 34:32.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2072.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:32.98 - 34:33.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2072.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2073.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wichtiger<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:33.76 - 34:34.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2073.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2074.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Einblick<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:34.30 - 34:34.90, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2074.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2074.9\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:34.90 - 34:35.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2074.9\" data-end-seconds=\"2075.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> danke<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:35.60 - 34:35.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2075.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2075.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:35.96 - 34:36.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2075.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2076.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> deine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_4_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:36.42 - 34:37.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2076.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2077.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kontaktaufnahme<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:37.14 - 34:37.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2077.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2077.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dazu.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:37.88 - 34:38.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2077.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.18 - 34:38.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.36 - 34:38.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.54 - 34:38.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.72 - 34:38.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2078.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:38.96 - 34:39.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2078.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2079.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_45_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:39.12 - 34:39.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2079.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2079.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bald.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"mb-4 w-full max-w-7xl\">\n<div id=\"paragraph_46\" class=\"scroll-mt-28\" data-is-paragraph=\"true\" data-testid=\"transcript-paragraph\" data-start-seconds=\"2080.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2141.04\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"flex group\">\n<div class=\"border-l-&#091;3px&#093; border-gray-200 group-hover:border-indigo-300 my-&#091;2px&#093;\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"inline flex-1 pl-2\"><span class=\"opacity-70 hover:opacity-100 cursor-pointer whitespace-normal tabular-nums\" title=\"34:40.08\">[34:40]<\/span><span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\" contenteditable=\"true\"><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:40.08 - 34:40.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2080.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2080.3\" data-confidence=\"1\">Ja,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:40.64 - 34:40.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2080.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2080.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:40.82 - 34:41.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2080.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2081.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:41.10 - 34:41.40, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2081.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2081.4\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sascha<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:41.40 - 34:41.74, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2081.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2081.74\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:41.74 - 34:42.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2081.74\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> alles<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.04 - 34:42.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gute<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.26 - 34:42.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.42 - 34:42.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.54 - 34:42.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_0_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:42.60 - 34:42.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2082.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2082.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:43.32 - 34:43.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2083.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2083.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Tolle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:43.48 - 34:43.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2083.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2083.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Initiative.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:43.82 - 34:45.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2083.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2085.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Vielen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.04 - 34:45.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2085.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Dank,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.64 - 34:45.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2085.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:45.82 - 34:46.10, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2085.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2086.1\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:46.10 - 34:46.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2086.1\" data-end-seconds=\"2086.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:46.80 - 34:47.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2086.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wieder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.04 - 34:47.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.22 - 34:47.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2087.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dabei<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_1_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:47.50 - 34:48.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2087.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2088.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> warst,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:48.40 - 34:48.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2088.4\" data-end-seconds=\"2088.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> als<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:48.56 - 34:49.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2088.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2089.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:49.02 - 34:49.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2089.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2089.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:49.64 - 34:49.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2089.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2089.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:49.96 - 34:50.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2089.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2090.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diesem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:50.42 - 34:50.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2090.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2090.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Thema<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:50.70 - 34:51.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2090.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2091.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gesprochen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:51.06 - 34:51.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2091.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2091.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> haben<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:51.50 - 34:51.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2091.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2091.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:51.66 - 34:51.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2091.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2091.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diesem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_2_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:51.88 - 34:52.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2091.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2092.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:52.54 - 34:52.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2092.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2092.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:52.58 - 34:52.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2092.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2092.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wenn<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:52.70 - 34:52.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2092.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2092.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:52.80 - 34:52.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2092.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2092.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:52.94 - 34:53.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2092.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gefallen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.36 - 34:53.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2093.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hat<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:53.66 - 34:54.14, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2093.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2094.14\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:54.14 - 34:54.26, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2094.14\" data-end-seconds=\"2094.26\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:54.26 - 34:54.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2094.26\" data-end-seconds=\"2094.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:54.64 - 34:54.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2094.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2094.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dir<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:54.80 - 34:55.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2094.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2095.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zusagt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:55.36 - 34:55.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2095.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2095.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:55.52 - 34:55.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2095.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2095.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> du<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_13\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:55.64 - 34:56.00, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2095.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2096\" data-confidence=\"1\"> m\u00f6chtest<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_3_14\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:56.00 - 34:56.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2096\" data-end-seconds=\"2096.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:56.38 - 34:56.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2096.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2096.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:56.38 - 34:56.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2096.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2096.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> andere,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.00 - 34:57.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.34 - 34:57.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> diesen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.54 - 34:57.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.54\" data-end-seconds=\"2097.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:57.88 - 34:58.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2097.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2098.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> noch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:58.08 - 34:58.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2098.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2098.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> nicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:58.30 - 34:58.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2098.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2098.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kennen,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.04 - 34:59.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2099.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> aber<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.34 - 34:59.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2099.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> kennenlernen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_4_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"34:59.82 - 35:00.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2099.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sollten,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.38 - 35:00.72, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2100.72\" data-confidence=\"1\"> weil<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:00.72 - 35:01.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2100.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2101.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> es<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:01.36 - 35:01.52, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2101.36\" data-end-seconds=\"2101.52\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:01.52 - 35:01.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2101.52\" data-end-seconds=\"2101.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> sie<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:01.70 - 35:02.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2101.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2102.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> interessant<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:02.30 - 35:02.80, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2102.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2102.8\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ist<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:02.80 - 35:03.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2102.8\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.50 - 35:03.94, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2103.94\" data-confidence=\"1\"> interessant<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_5_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:03.94 - 35:04.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2103.94\" data-end-seconds=\"2104.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> w\u00e4re,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:04.88 - 35:05.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2104.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2105.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dann<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:05.08 - 35:05.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2105.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2105.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hinterlass<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:05.76 - 35:06.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2105.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2106.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> doch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:06.02 - 35:06.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2106.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2106.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> eine<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:06.66 - 35:07.82, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2106.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2107.82\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sternebewertung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:07.82 - 35:07.96, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2107.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2107.96\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:07.96 - 35:08.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2107.96\" data-end-seconds=\"2108.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:08.12 - 35:08.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2108.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2108.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Feedback<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:08.66 - 35:08.98, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2108.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2108.98\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auf<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:08.98 - 35:09.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2108.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2109.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Apple<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_6_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:09.30 - 35:09.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2109.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2109.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Podcast<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:09.78 - 35:10.32, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2109.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2110.32\" data-confidence=\"1\"> oder<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:10.32 - 35:10.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2110.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2110.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Google<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:10.70 - 35:11.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2110.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2111.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Business<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:11.18 - 35:12.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2111.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2112.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:12.02 - 35:12.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2112.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2112.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gib<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_7_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:12.34 - 35:13.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2112.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2113.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bekannt in Deinem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:13.82 - 35:14.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2113.82\" data-end-seconds=\"2114.46\" data-confidence=\"1\">\u00a0Netzwerk,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:14.68 - 35:14.70, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2114.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2114.7\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:14.70 - 35:15.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2114.7\" data-end-seconds=\"2115.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> hier<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:15.02 - 35:15.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2115.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2115.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zu<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:15.38 - 35:16.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2115.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2116.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediation,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:16.48 - 35:17.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2116.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2117.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konfliktcoaching,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:17.76 - 35:19.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2117.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2119.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Organisationsberatung<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_8_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:19.04 - 35:19.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2119.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2119.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:19.62 - 35:19.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2119.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2119.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> das<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:19.78 - 35:20.02, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2119.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2120.02\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ganze<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:20.02 - 35:20.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2120.02\" data-end-seconds=\"2120.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> auch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:20.22 - 35:20.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2120.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2120.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> im<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:20.38 - 35:20.88, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2120.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2120.88\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Angesicht<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:20.88 - 35:21.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2120.88\" data-end-seconds=\"2121.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> der<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:21.04 - 35:21.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2121.04\" data-end-seconds=\"2121.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> neuen<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:21.30 - 35:22.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2121.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2122.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Technologien<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:22.18 - 35:23.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2122.18\" data-end-seconds=\"2123.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gepodcastet<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_9_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:23.30 - 35:23.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2123.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2123.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> wird.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_10_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:23.78 - 35:24.28, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2123.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2124.28\" data-confidence=\"1\"> F\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_10_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:24.28 - 35:24.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2124.28\" data-end-seconds=\"2124.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_10_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:24.34 - 35:24.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2124.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2124.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Moment<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_10_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:24.58 - 35:26.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2124.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2126.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> alles<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_10_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:26.16 - 35:26.54, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2126.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2126.54\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Gute,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_10_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:26.72 - 35:27.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2126.72\" data-end-seconds=\"2127.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> ihr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_10_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:27.12 - 35:27.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2127.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2127.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_10_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:27.76 - 35:28.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2127.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2128.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> euch.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:28.38 - 35:28.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2128.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2128.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:28.64 - 35:29.06, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2128.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2129.06\" data-confidence=\"1\"> verabschiede<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:29.06 - 35:29.20, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2129.06\" data-end-seconds=\"2129.2\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:29.20 - 35:29.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2129.2\" data-end-seconds=\"2129.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> mit<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:29.34 - 35:29.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2129.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2129.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> den<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:29.48 - 35:29.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2129.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2129.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> besten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:29.78 - 35:30.18, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2129.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2130.18\" data-confidence=\"1\"> W\u00fcnschen.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:30.32 - 35:30.46, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2130.32\" data-end-seconds=\"2130.46\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Bis<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:30.46 - 35:30.60, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2130.46\" data-end-seconds=\"2130.6\" data-confidence=\"1\"> zum<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:30.60 - 35:30.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2130.6\" data-end-seconds=\"2130.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> n\u00e4chsten<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_11_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:30.78 - 35:31.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2130.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2131.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mal.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_12_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:31.16 - 35:31.34, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2131.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2131.34\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Kommt<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_12_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:31.34 - 35:31.50, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2131.34\" data-end-seconds=\"2131.5\" data-confidence=\"1\"> gut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_12_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:31.50 - 35:31.66, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2131.5\" data-end-seconds=\"2131.66\" data-confidence=\"1\"> durch<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_12_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:31.66 - 35:31.78, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2131.66\" data-end-seconds=\"2131.78\" data-confidence=\"1\"> die<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_12_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:31.78 - 35:32.04, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2131.78\" data-end-seconds=\"2132.04\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Zeit.<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:32.24 - 35:32.44, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2132.24\" data-end-seconds=\"2132.44\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Ich<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:32.44 - 35:32.58, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2132.44\" data-end-seconds=\"2132.58\" data-confidence=\"1\"> bin<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:32.58 - 35:32.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2132.58\" data-end-seconds=\"2132.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Sascha<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:32.86 - 35:33.24, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2132.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2133.24\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Weigel,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:33.98 - 35:34.12, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2133.98\" data-end-seconds=\"2134.12\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dein<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:34.12 - 35:34.38, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2134.12\" data-end-seconds=\"2134.38\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Host<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:34.38 - 35:34.64, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2134.38\" data-end-seconds=\"2134.64\" data-confidence=\"1\"> von<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:34.64 - 35:35.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2134.64\" data-end-seconds=\"2135.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> <span class=\"focus:outline-none scroll-mt-28 px-2\">INKOVEMA<\/span>,<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_8\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:35.22 - 35:35.30, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2135.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2135.3\" data-confidence=\"1\"> dem<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_9\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:35.30 - 35:35.68, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2135.3\" data-end-seconds=\"2135.68\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Institut<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_10\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:35.68 - 35:35.86, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2135.68\" data-end-seconds=\"2135.86\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_11\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:35.86 - 35:36.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2135.86\" data-end-seconds=\"2136.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Konflikt-<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_13_12\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:36.42 - 35:36.48, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2136.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2136.48\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_14_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:36.48 - 35:37.42, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2136.48\" data-end-seconds=\"2137.42\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Verhandlungsmanagement<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_14_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:37.42 - 35:37.62, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2137.42\" data-end-seconds=\"2137.62\" data-confidence=\"1\"> in<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_14_2\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:37.62 - 35:38.08, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2137.62\" data-end-seconds=\"2138.08\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Leipzig<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_14_3\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:38.08 - 35:38.22, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2138.08\" data-end-seconds=\"2138.22\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_14_4\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:38.22 - 35:38.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2138.22\" data-end-seconds=\"2138.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Partner<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_14_5\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:38.56 - 35:38.76, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2138.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2138.76\" data-confidence=\"1\"> f\u00fcr<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_14_6\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:38.76 - 35:39.56, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2138.76\" data-end-seconds=\"2139.56\" data-confidence=\"1\"> professionelle<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_14_7\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:39.56 - 35:40.16, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2139.56\" data-end-seconds=\"2140.16\" data-confidence=\"1\"> Mediations-<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_15_0\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:40.16 - 35:40.36, Confidence: 1\" data-testid=\"transcript-line-timestamp\" data-is-timestamp=\"true\" data-start-seconds=\"2140.16\" data-end-seconds=\"2140.36\" data-confidence=\"1\"> und<\/span><span id=\"timestamp_46_15_1\" class=\"whitespace-pre-wrap scroll-mt-28 hover:bg-blue-50\" title=\"35:40.36 - 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