{"id":12931,"date":"2024-02-24T08:46:36","date_gmt":"2024-02-24T07:46:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/?p=12931"},"modified":"2025-08-06T08:04:13","modified_gmt":"2025-08-06T06:04:13","slug":"entrepreneurs-are-crazy-hikers-also-wolfgang-zimmermann-podcast-160","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/entrepreneurs-are-crazy-hikers-also-wolfgang-zimmermann-podcast-160\/","title":{"rendered":"Entrepreneurs are crazy, hikers too. In conversation with Wolfgang Zimmermann (INKOVEMA podcast #160)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container gradient-container-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>INKOVEMA Podcast &#8222;Well through time&#8220;<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#160 - Entrepreneurs are crazy, hikers too<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-3 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h2>Crises start at high points and sometimes the only way to move on is to go down. In conversation with Wolfgang Zimmermann<\/h2><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><p>Well through time. The podcast about mediation, conflict coaching and organisational consulting.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema.podigee.io\/161-160-unternehmer-sind-verruckt-wanderer-auch-im-gesprach-mit-wolfgang-zimmermann\/embed?context=external\"><\/script><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><p>Wolfgang Zimmermann, a graduate in business administration, experienced management consultant, leadership expert, speaker and author &#8211; and long-distance Alpine hiker.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-3\"><h2>Contents:<\/h2>\n<h2><strong>Management vs. entrepreneurship:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Zimmermann clarifies the <em><strong>fundamental difference between managers and entrepreneurs<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Managers operate within fixed boundaries and structures, focussing on efficiency and control, while&#8230;<\/li>\n<li>Entrepreneurs expand or redefine these boundaries by introducing new ideas, products or business models.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Entrepreneurship is crucial for the economic progress of a society and the development of new markets. Entrepreneurs play a key role in creating jobs, increasing the rate of innovation and promoting competition.<\/p>\n<p>Entrepreneurship has challenges and risks. Above all, it is a <em><strong>Acting in the face of uncertainty<\/strong><\/em>financial risks and the need to violate existing norms and expectations. It is also made clear here that <em><strong>Entrepreneurship is always a border crosser<\/strong> <\/em>is.<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, it is important to note that management and entrepreneurship are by no means mere opposites, but must be kept in balance within organisations. The importance of a balance between the structured approaches of management and the creative, boundary-pushing nature of entrepreneurship. Companies that master this balance are in a position to be successful and innovative in the long term.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Sometimes you can only get further by descending.<\/strong><\/h4>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2><\/h2>\n<h2><strong>Types of entrepreneurs<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>We also talk about the different types of entrepreneurs, each with unique roles and characteristics in business. These types include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>The creative destroyer<\/strong>Inspired by Joseph Schumpeter's concept of &#8222;creative destruction&#8220;, this type describes entrepreneurs who replace existing products, services or business models with innovative solutions. They drive progress by destroying the old and replacing it with the new.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The rule breaker<\/strong>This type scrutinises existing norms and rules in the market or industry and finds ways to circumvent or redefine them. Rule-breakers often pave the way for new business practices or market niches.<\/li>\n<li><strong>The do-gooder<\/strong>Entrepreneurs of this type are motivated by the desire to bring about positive change in society or the environment. Their drive is often a combination of social mission and entrepreneurial initiative, resulting in sustainable business models or products that address social problems.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>This classification illustrates how entrepreneurs, through their different motivations and approaches, are pushing the boundaries of traditional management and creating new opportunities for innovation and growth. It also shows that entrepreneurship takes many forms, from pure market innovation to social engagement.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Crises begin at high points. Where else?<\/strong><\/h4>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2><strong>Source<\/strong>:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Website: Wolfgang Zimmermann (<a href=\"https:\/\/wolfgang-zimmermann.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/wolfgang-zimmermann.com\/<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Essay: Zimmermann, Wolfgang: Unternehmer sind Verr\u00fcckte: Management hat Grenzen - Unternehmertum verr\u00fcckt sie, Springer Fachmedien Wiesbaden 2014.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" 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auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"text-align:center;\"><a class=\"fusion-button button-flat fusion-button-default-size button-default fusion-button-default button-2 fusion-button-default-span fusion-button-default-type\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" href=\"https:\/\/medium.com\/@wesa\/leipzig-rom-oder-wie-ich-das-ende-meiner-reise-erlebte-53c47de23e4b\"><span class=\"fusion-button-icon-divider button-icon-divider-left\"><i class=\"fa-info-circle fas awb-button__icon awb-button__icon--default\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-button-text awb-button__text awb-button__text--default fusion-button-text-left\">Rome and how I experienced the end of the hike (2015). <\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"accordian fusion-accordian\" style=\"--awb-border-size:1px;--awb-icon-size:13px;--awb-content-font-size:18px;--awb-icon-alignment:left;--awb-hover-color:#b4c6d6;--awb-border-color:#b4c6d6;--awb-background-color:#ffffff;--awb-divider-color:#e0dede;--awb-divider-hover-color:#e0dede;--awb-icon-color:#ffffff;--awb-title-color:#356b8c;--awb-content-color:#4f4f4f;--awb-icon-box-color:#004767;--awb-toggle-hover-accent-color:#666666;--awb-title-font-family:&quot;Rubik&quot;;--awb-title-font-weight:regular;--awb-title-font-style:normal;--awb-title-font-size:16px;--awb-content-font-family:&quot;Rubik&quot;;--awb-content-font-style:normal;--awb-content-font-weight:300;\"><div class=\"panel-group fusion-toggle-icon-boxed\" id=\"accordion-12931-1\"><div class=\"fusion-panel panel-default panel-857ec021d2814c69a fusion-toggle-no-divider fusion-toggle-boxed-mode\" style=\"--awb-title-color:#356b8c;\"><div class=\"panel-heading\"><h4 class=\"panel-title toggle\" id=\"toggle_857ec021d2814c69a\"><a aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-controls=\"857ec021d2814c69a\" role=\"button\" data-toggle=\"collapse\" data-parent=\"#accordion-12931-1\" data-target=\"#857ec021d2814c69a\" href=\"#857ec021d2814c69a\"><span class=\"fusion-toggle-icon-wrapper\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><i class=\"fa-fusion-box active-icon awb-icon-minus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><i class=\"fa-fusion-box inactive-icon awb-icon-plus\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i><\/span><span class=\"fusion-toggle-heading\">Entrepreneurs are crazy (book)<\/span><\/a><\/h4><\/div><div id=\"857ec021d2814c69a\" class=\"panel-collapse collapse\" aria-labelledby=\"toggle_857ec021d2814c69a\"><div class=\"panel-body toggle-content fusion-clearfix\">\n<div id=\"wdm-75b3ca3df34661dde3bec359e75bfa19\" class=\"moduleWrapper wannadomodule_299 BlockcontentSingleModule\">\n<div class=\"blockWrapper block_h1\">\n<div class=\"innerContent\">\n<div class=\"row\">\n<div class=\"col-xs-12 text-padding\">\n<div id=\"wdm-0811619dda8d95259652a534eaa63d23\" class=\"moduleWrapper wannadomodule_300 TextcontentModule\">\n<h2>Entrepreneurs are crazy<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<div id=\"wdm-e36e22b820f0dc83ef448f77edb9ef44\" class=\"moduleWrapper wannadomodule_301 TextcontentModule\">\n<h3>How entrepreneurs overcome boundaries and what managers can learn from them<\/h3>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"wdm-1735421093f498fe44ccfad47e46162b\" class=\"moduleWrapper wannadomodule_268 BlockcontentSingleModule\">\n<div class=\"blockWrapper block_img_2\">\n<div class=\"innerContent\">\n<div class=\"row\">\n<div class=\"col-xs-12 col-sm-6 above-xs-padding-right\">\n<div id=\"wdm-69e0c1c6128881e45ce6884a1e6af1e8\" class=\"moduleWrapper wannadomodule_269 ImageframeModule\">\n<div class=\"imageframeimage\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"col-xs-12 col-sm-6 above-xs-padding-left\">\n<div>\n<div id=\"wdm-34da7cc8c39947f1ab83d8bfc0a0d05b\" class=\"moduleWrapper wannadomodule_313 TextcontentModule\">\n<div><strong><span class=\"textHighlight2\">Brief description<\/span><\/strong><\/div>\n<ul>\n<li><em>\"This book stands out from the multitude of literature published in recent years on the subject of family businesses. Zimmermann's achievement is not only to provide an accurate psychogram of the typical entrepreneurial personality, but also to include the entire business and family environment of our family businesses. <\/em><em>The fact that the author has managed to combine humour and utility so easily and casually is a great literary achievement.\"<\/em> (Prof. Dr Dr h. c. Brun-Hagen Hennerkes, Chairman of the Family Business Foundation)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div id=\"wdm-271a1ef3782555977c85c6bd4f698d7c\" class=\"moduleWrapper wannadomodule_302 BlockcontentSingleModule\">\n<div class=\"blockWrapper block_text text-padding\">\n<div class=\"innerContent\">\n<div class=\"row\">\n<div class=\"col-xs-12 t1\">\n<div class=\"\">\n<div id=\"wdm-4b6a2bc8464a9f350e25aad22260eae9\" class=\"moduleWrapper wannadomodule_303 TextcontentModule\">\n<p><em>\"Entrepreneurs are - to paraphrase Schumpeter - creative destroyers who do not exhaust themselves. Entrepreneurs are rule-breakers and hierarchy escapees, gap finders for products, border crossers between knowledge and non-knowledge. And they usually fail before they succeed. It's good that more attention is being paid to this inexplicable and uncanny species in Germany. We need the next start-up years, smart universities and smart books. Here is one!\"<\/em>\u00a0 (Prof Dr Stephan A. Jansen, Zeppelin University, Founding President)<\/p>\n<h3><strong><span class=\"textHighlight2\">The content<\/span><\/strong><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><span class=\"listIndicator\">The art of stumbling into happiness: the foundation<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"listIndicator\">Management has limits: Entrepreneurship drives them crazy<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"listIndicator\">Love it or leave it: Entrepreneur-led companies tick differently<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"listIndicator\">Inspire people to join in: Entrepreneurs and their view of their employees<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"listIndicator\">Family businesses and business families: Between emotion and business<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"listIndicator\">Don't talk, do: The value framework<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"listIndicator\">The entrepreneur as a driver of social development<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span class=\"listIndicator\">Interviews with successful entrepreneurs and renowned scientists<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><span class=\"textHighlight2\">The Neue Z\u00fcrcher Zeitung on &#8222;Entrepreneurs are crazy&#8220;:<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n<em>&#8222;After a detailed description of entrepreneurship, the author goes into how it is currently perceived in our society in the aftermath of the financial crisis. In contrast to managers, entrepreneurs are seen as important economic pillars. According to Zimmermann, in addition to the characteristics already mentioned, this is also due to the fact that entrepreneurs can convey meaning through their actions, as they work sustainably on their life's work and are often also socially committed. In the final section, the author describes the dangers that such an existence can entail. In his opinion, one of them is that you orientate yourself too much on the familiar and thus neglect innovation. Other pitfalls can be succession planning or megalomania. In his book, Zimmermann provides plenty of food for thought for modern managers on how to think and act entrepreneurially &#8220;<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":12932,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[474,1,183,314,42,453,1152,445],"tags":[14,881,306,698,1153,1154],"class_list":["post-12931","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-agilitaet","category-allgemein","category-audio","category-inkovema-podcast","category-podcast","category-strategie","category-unternehmertum","category-vuka-welt","tag-mediation","tag-risikomanagement","tag-unsicherheit","tag-unsicherheitskompetenz","tag-unternehmertum","tag-weitwandern"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.2 (Yoast SEO v26.5) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Unternehmer sind verr\u00fcckt, Wanderer auch. 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